Chit-Chat: What's On Your Mind Today?

[lookeyloo]

Same here. Read under spoiler tag. Didn't understand and not offended. Or shocked or horrified. Really. 

[emma675]

14 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I'm not offended.  In my first job, I worked as an editor for Penthouse.  I really wanted to break into publishing. 

You can't just drop that tidbit and walk away, you know you're going to have to share stories about that job! 

[EtheltoTillie]

33 minutes ago, emma675 said:

You can't just drop that tidbit and walk away, you know you're going to have to share stories about that job! 

There's not much to tell, really.  I didn't have anything to do with nude photographs.  I did have to edit those wacky Forum letters, though.  And other articles.  Everyone who worked there was waiting to get out and work somewhere else. 

And for our friend @ABay sometimes I had to edit the letters in Variations--the bondage publication. 

And I do know what the terms mean. 

Edited July 23 by EtheltoTillie

[EtheltoTillie]

Okay, here's a story.  The main editor for the Variations publication worked as a dominatrix on the side--and a Jewish liturgical singer!  She was not Jewish, but she was a trained singer, so she would get hired to sing at weekly services (at Reform synagogues).

She later became an Episcopal priest. 

[ABay]

Everyone's life seems much more interesting than mine!

[ECM1231]

2 hours ago, ABay said:

Thank you all for letting me know you weren't offended. It's hard to guess what will or won't offend people and pornography is an area that does often set people off...or put them off...or get them off.

I most definitely was not offended, but I feel like an old fogey, and must have led a very sheltered life, because I didn't understand much of what I read. 

But must admit that back in the early days of our marriage, my husband and I did enjoy viewing adult films from time to time. 

[PRgal]

1 hour ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Okay, here's a story.  The main editor for the Variations publication worked as a dominatrix on the side--and a Jewish liturgical singer!  She was not Jewish, but she was a trained singer, so she would get hired to sing at weekly services (at Reform synagogues).

She later became an Episcopal priest. 

Now THAT'S interesting.  It would be even MORE interesting if you told me she later become a bishop.

[Mondrianyone]

We went to an erotic film festival down in the Village a hundred years ago, and part of it was a series of gay male films. So I think I've seen a bunch of those terms acted out, but I couldn't tell you which was which. Thankfully, we have @EtheltoTillie here to define them all for us!

I don't know what's the lower rung on the get-into-publishing ladder, Penthouse or where I worked, which was a bunch of what we called romance magazines but what the rest of the world calls confession magazines (Modern Romances and such). It was great training for working in fiction later on.

[somethingwicked]

5 hours ago, ABay said:

Thank you all for letting me know you weren't offended. It's hard to guess what will or won't offend people and pornography is an area that does often set people off...or put them off...or get them off.

My favorite part was you wishing they'd hire a librarian and then imagining that whole scene. 

[emma675]

So many posters with interesting first jobs! My career has been so boring, there's no erotica in the mix anywhere.

[Bastet]

22 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I did have to edit those wacky Forum letters, though.

I have interjected "Dear Penthouse, I never thought it would happen to me" into the beginning of so many men's stories.

As for porn being offensive, there are a disgusting number of prevalent abuses in the industry, especially of female performers, an overwhelming percentage of films involving women are sexist (including those marketing themselves as being made for women), way too many are violent, and the internet making it readily available has created young men for whom porn is their only sexual reference, with that skewed perception having incredibly disturbing real world consequences for the women with whom they eventually have sex.  I think how porn exists in our society is more negative than positive.  (And almost all of it is absolutely ridiculous, but that's another issue and one I'd happily overlook if the others didn't exist). 

But the basic concept of porn is in no way offensive in and of itself.  Good sex is hot, obviously if you're having it, but also if you're watching it (and, combining the two worlds, if watching it helps you have it).  We just need more actual good sex in porn.

Edited July 24 by Bastet

[EtheltoTillie]

3 hours ago, Bastet said:

I have interjected "Dear Penthouse, I never thought it would happen to me" into the beginning of so many stories.

As for porn being offensive, there are a disgusting number of prevalent abuses in the industry, especially of female performers, an overwhelming films involving women are sexist (including those marketing themselves as being made for women), way too many are violent, and the internet making it readily available has created young men for whom porn is their only sexual reference, with that skewed perception having incredibly disturbing real world consequences for the women they eventually have sex with.  I think how porn exists in our society is more negative than positive.  (And almost all of it is absolutely ridiculous, but that's another issue and one I'd happily overlook if the others didn't exist). 

But the basic concept of porn is in no way offensive in and of itself.  Good sex is hot, obviously if you're having it, but also if you're watching it (and, combining the two worlds, if watching it helps you have it).  We just need more actual good sex in porn.

Gotta agree with all of this. I don’t think there is a way to do it without those anti woman consequences. I think it’s atavistic urges unchecked. And the internet has made it worse.  Andrea Dworkin was right. 

Edited July 24 by EtheltoTillie

[Yeah No]

7 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Okay, here's a story.  The main editor for the Variations publication worked as a dominatrix on the side--and a Jewish liturgical singer!  She was not Jewish, but she was a trained singer, so she would get hired to sing at weekly services (at Reform synagogues).

She later became an Episcopal priest. 

OMG, I split my sides when I read this!! I'm Episcopalian and I can soooo see this!

[shapeshifter]

3 hours ago, Bastet said:

I have interjected "Dear Penthouse, I never thought it would happen to me" into the beginning of so many stories.

As for porn being offensive, there are a disgusting number of prevalent abuses in the industry, especially of female performers, an overwhelming percentage of films involving women are sexist (including those marketing themselves as being made for women), way too many are violent, and the internet making it readily available has created young men for whom porn is their only sexual reference, with that skewed perception having incredibly disturbing real world consequences for the women with whom they eventually have sex.  I think how porn exists in our society is more negative than positive.  (And almost all of it is absolutely ridiculous, but that's another issue and one I'd happily overlook if the others didn't exist). 

But the basic concept of porn is in no way offensive in and of itself.  Good sex is hot, obviously if you're having it, but also if you're watching it (and, combining the two worlds, if watching it helps you have it).  We just need more actual good sex in porn.

This excellent post reminds me of why I stopped downloading bootleg TV episodes in the 20-teens. To get to the episode video, it was first necessary to wackamole a series of porno popup ads. At some point I noticed they mostly were very young girl-women with captions offering dates. This was pre-AI as we now know it, so it seemed these young women and girls were being exploited — at least by the video producer.😞

[EtheltoTillie]

5 hours ago, Mondrianyone said:

I don't know what's the lower rung on the get-into-publishing ladder, Penthouse or where I worked, which was a bunch of what we called romance magazines but what the rest of the world calls confession magazines (Modern Romances and such). It was great training for working in fiction later on.

Gee, if only they still had confession magazines. What a hoot. I haven’t thought about them in years. We used to read them in summer camp.
 

So here’s the answer to your question:  one of my colleagues at Penthouse, who also went to our mutual college, started at confession magazines. So that was a step up lol. All of these things were great training in some way. Confession mags were a real market for aspiring fiction writers. 

One of my side jobs was copy editing and proofreading romance novels (Silhouette or Harlequin type).  Another side job was condensing romance novels for a magazine.  Since this was before computers we actually were given a photocopy of the book and we went through it crossing out huge sections. I did this with a good friend, also from our mutual college!  By then we both worked at Redbook; she was in the fiction department, and I was in articles.  We would trade our copies to read for continuity after cutting.
 

This was in the days when Redbook ran three short stories a month and one condensed novel. To get an in there, my friend started in the production department. She was then instrumental in helping me make the leap from porn. We ran into a colleague of hers on a movie line, and he was in need of a part time copy editor, so I was able to get in the side door at Redbook. People don’t get jobs that way anymore.

Edited July 24 by EtheltoTillie

[Anduin]

1 hour ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Gotta agree with all of this. I don’t think there is a way to do it without those anti woman consequences. I think it’s atavistic urges unchecked. And the internet has made it worse.  Andrea Dworkin was right. 

While I agree that some porn is produced under dubious circumstances, what about all the porn produced by women? Holly Randall is a long-time director, plus there's all the women on OnlyFans who are in control of what they make.

[ABay]

10 hours ago, somethingwicked said:

My favorite part was you wishing they'd hire a librarian and then imagining that whole scene. 

I am a librarian. Maybe I should contact one of the sites. "Dear Sir (or your pronoun of choice), as a dedicated viewer of your platform, I wish to offer my services to organize the videos you host..."

I thought about creating A Discerning Woman's Guide to Gay Porn on the Internet. Perhaps a project for retirement?

It's obvious from the tagging system that 1. I'm not looking for the same things as the intended audience because their tags and search features don't use the terms I use to describe what I'm looking for, 2. it is impossible to find a video you watched last week because of #1, 3. someone needs to create order out of chaos.

Edited July 24 by ABay

[bluegirl147]

8 hours ago, Bastet said:

Good sex is hot, obviously if you're having it, but also if you're watching it (and, combining the two worlds, if watching it helps you have it).  We just need more actual good sex in porn.

Years ago there was a porn movie called "If My Mother Only Knew".  It was porn but it was like an actual movie.  I swear that was the sexiest movie I have ever seen. It was about a girl having an affair with her stepfather.  Of course I realize now the age difference and the fact he was her stepfather are gross but at the time I was just a couple years older than her so......

8 hours ago, Bastet said:

the internet making it readily available has created young men for whom porn is their only sexual reference, with that skewed perception having incredibly disturbing real world consequences for the women with whom they eventually have sex.

This is 100% true. In a book (who's name I forget) about teenagers and young adults and how the internet has really affected them in a negative online porn was discussed.  There is an entire generation of young men who think the sex they see in porn is normal. That women are meant to be used for their pleasure and the woman's pleasure is not important. And even more concerning is young women who don't have anything to compare it to or anyone telling them differently they are also thinking the same thing. 

 

[EtheltoTillie]

5 hours ago, Anduin said:

While I agree that some porn is produced under dubious circumstances, what about all the porn produced by women? Holly Randall is a long-time director, plus there's all the women on OnlyFans who are in control of what they make.

The only fans outlet is important in reducing violence against sex workers, I have heard.  I watched a really good documentary on NYC trans sex workers last year, maybe on HBO.  Anyway, the workers who moved to on line work were grateful for the safety. 

Edited July 24 by EtheltoTillie

[PRgal]

11 hours ago, emma675 said:

So many posters with interesting first jobs! My career has been so boring, there's no erotica in the mix anywhere.

My first office job (well, summer internship) was kind of boring as well, save for the middle aged HR ladies crushing/dirtily talking about a young man who came in for interview (not sure if he got the job).  I thought it was kind of funny.  I'm a middle aged lady now, but I haven't gotten to the point that I feel like I need a younger man...yet (though I'd feel kind of creepy if he were 25 or so).

[Yeah No]

16 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I'm not offended.  In my first job, I worked as an editor for Penthouse.  I really wanted to break into publishing. 

When I got out of college my mother, who was a genuine "literati type" after just having gotten a Master's in Creative Writing from City College, thought I should try to get into publishing. So I went on several interviews at some of the big publishing houses in Manhattan. Back then I was shy and underconfident and that field and the people I met in it completely intimidated me so I never got anywhere. 

Looking back on it, though, I have to hand it to you because I don't think my mother or I ever would have thought to go somewhere like Penthouse. She probably would have LOVED that idea, though, as a way to get my foot in the door!

8 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Gotta agree with all of this. I don’t think there is a way to do it without those anti woman consequences. I think it’s atavistic urges unchecked. And the internet has made it worse.  Andrea Dworkin was right. 

How do you or anyone feel about the really amateur stuff?  You know, not the stuff that is obviously not amateur but posing as amateur? I admit I've found that less offensive in general, of course depending on the particulars. And IMO much hotter, too!

20 years ago I knew of one website owned and operated by women that I liked but that was so long ago now I don't think it even exists anymore.

[EtheltoTillie]

I will tell you how I got to Penthouse.  I could type really fast.  I had practiced so I could get a job.  I used to type term papers for money.

I went to secretarial placement agencies and asked for publishing openings for editorial assistant.  I had learned that was the way to break in to publishing jobs.  One day the Penthouse job came up, and I got it on my first interview. 

[shapeshifter]

16 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I will tell you how I got to Penthouse.  I could type really fast.  I had practiced so I could get a job.  I used to type term papers for money.

I went to secretarial placement agencies and asked for publishing openings for editorial assistant.  I had learned that was the way to break in to publishing jobs.  One day the Penthouse job came up, and I got it on my first interview. 

That's sounds similar to the late 1990s when knowing HTML helped get me a foot in the door.

[oliviabenson]

16 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Okay, here's a story.  The main editor for the Variations publication worked as a dominatrix on the side--and a Jewish liturgical singer!  She was not Jewish, but she was a trained singer, so she would get hired to sing at weekly services (at Reform synagogues).

She later became an Episcopal priest. 

I need a friend like her! 

I bet she is loads of fun!

[oliviabenson]

All the porn movies made men on dating sites request some un vanilla sex. Most of it would make a lady blush.

Id guess many porn actresses are on drugs to deal with their job. A few recently died from OD/eating disorders etc and the ones that made the news had to have been famous. How many non famous ones die and the public will never know. 

Edited July 24 by oliviabenson

[EtheltoTillie]

I find this trend the most troubling.  No doubt learned from porn.  Choking.  Here is the NYT article without paywall. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/opinion/choking-teen-sex-brain-damage.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9k0.ohz-.De37KurhTjJ0&smid=url-share

[Yeah No]

1 hour ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I will tell you how I got to Penthouse.  I could type really fast.  I had practiced so I could get a job.  I used to type term papers for money.

I went to secretarial placement agencies and asked for publishing openings for editorial assistant.  I had learned that was the way to break in to publishing jobs.  One day the Penthouse job came up, and I got it on my first interview. 

I could type really fast too and typed all my own college papers. My mother was a legal secretary so she encouraged me to learn on the used IBM Selectric she bought at work. I did the same thing with the agencies and I got the interviews but I came away feeling like I didn't have enough "edge" to get into that business, or you had to know someone to get into it. You had to be tough and at that time I wasn't up for that kind of environment. I had just graduated with 2 BA's in Philosphy and Theology, so my head wasn't in that space. I was like the prince in Monty Python's Holy Grail - "But father, I'd rather sing"! Yeah, that was me. Unfortunately I didn't change until later in life after I moved away from NYC.

 

[Mondrianyone]

10 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

Gee, if only they still had confession magazines.

I didn't know they still existed when I got my first job at one!

10 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

So here’s the answer to your question:  one of my colleagues at Penthouse, who also went to our mutual college, started at confession magazines. So that was a step up lol.

I had a feeling I was on the lowest rung!

10 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

All of these things were great training in some way. Confession mags were a real market for aspiring fiction writers. 

They were great training for both ends of the relationship. I learned how to be a really top-notch editor by taking those stories apart and putting them back together, but much better (if I do say so myself). And I'm aware of a number of writers who submitted to us regularly that went on to have successful careers as mainstream fiction writers. So it's like everything we know we learned in kindergarten.

Ultimately, it really helped to go to college in Manhattan. That's where the jobs were, and most of us got started at some level when we were still in school.

[oliviabenson]

I just pictured someone in a basement in the dark, chain smoking while furiously typing on a typewriter for penthouse confessions. 
 

 

[ABay]

Even some people within the BDSM community think choking (breath play) is out of hand.

[EtheltoTillie]

15 minutes ago, oliviabenson said:

I just pictured someone in a basement in the dark, chain smoking while furiously typing on a typewriter for penthouse confessions. 
 

 

We used to get real letters in the mail.  We thought college students used to send them in. 

So @oliviabenson we did have one staff member like that.  He used to churn out porn stories, and he was a character out of Central Casting.  He chain smoked, he wore polyester leisure suits or loud plaid sports jackets, and he lived to play the ponies.  He was also a really nice guy.  Like our dominatrix. 

11 minutes ago, ABay said:

Even some people within the BDSM community think choking (breath play) is out of hand.

That's what the article said too. 

Edited July 24 by EtheltoTillie

[EtheltoTillie]

27 minutes ago, Mondrianyone said:

Ultimately, it really helped to go to college in Manhattan. That's where the jobs were, and most of us got started at some level when we were still in school.

After school ended, we were able to get cheap housing, which was available then, to be able to live on our low publishing salaries.  During school vacations, we used to rent cheap rooms in the dormitories. 

[oliviabenson]

Dating became not happening because most men are just into not vanilla sex and dom wanna bees. It’s like first conversation after matching goes straight to sex demands from men. 
 

 

And so many married/taken men on apps looking to cheat. Gross.

[oliviabenson]

@EtheltoTillie I do not remember the last time I wrote or received a hand written letter! It’s sad tbh. It’s like a lost art.

[EtheltoTillie]

42 minutes ago, oliviabenson said:

@EtheltoTillie I do not remember the last time I wrote or received a hand written letter! It’s sad tbh. It’s like a lost art.

I should make clear that the Penthouse letters were mostly typed, not handwritten.  And this was in the late '70s.   Since the advent of email, people stopped writing personal letters on paper.  But I think the function is the same.

Edited July 24 by EtheltoTillie

[shapeshifter]

30 minutes ago, EtheltoTillie said:

I should make clear that the Penthouse letters were mostly typed, not handwritten.  And this was in the late '70s.   Since the advent of email, people stopped writing personal letters on paper.  But I think the function is the same.

In the early 70s in my first rooming house room, I used my India ink and Crow Quill pen (bought for a drawing class) to write letters to no one. Then I'd use them to roll joints on (to catch stray leaf bits) until they got too stained and wrinkled from coffee. All of my bed sheets had a drop of black ink stain on them.

[Yeah No]

2 hours ago, EtheltoTillie said:

So @oliviabenson we did have one staff member like that.  He used to churn out porn stories, and he was a character out of Central Casting.  He chain smoked, he wore polyester leisure suits or loud plaid sports jackets, and he lived to play the ponies.  He was also a really nice guy.  Like our dominatrix. 

Back in the late '70s when I was single I knew Penthouse Forum because my boyfriend at one time bought it and we'd read it together. After a while it got more and more out there and we decided that most of what was supposed to be true was probably fake. But it was fun to read for a hoot anyway.

NY was full of interesting characters back in the day. My husband and I reminisce about them sometimes.

[Yeah No]

2 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

Dating became not happening because most men are just into not vanilla sex and dom wanna bees. It’s like first conversation after matching goes straight to sex demands from men. 

And so many married/taken men on apps looking to cheat. Gross.

Hook up culture has gotten out of control if you ask me, and I agree that online porn has made things even worse. It's getting harder and harder for singles to meet anyone for a real dating relationship, especially women looking for men. And now people don't even know how to meet anyone in person anymore. I wouldn't know how either if I were single. And bars and clubs are not the places to do it, either.

Although it always sucked to be honest, especially in NYC. Even 40 years ago most men I met randomly were always just looking for sex and there were always lots of married men going after single women. I met my husband in front of his Presbyterian church, where he practiced playing the church organ. That told me a lot about him right there. His best friend, who was dating my best friend introduced us so he had already been screened. He was a boy scout by comparison to some of the men out there. I think even after all these years it's still better to meet someone through friends or even at work if you're lucky enough to work somewhere with nice single men. You don't really know who you're getting if you go with someone with no references. I never dated men with no references. If it were me and I had to do it online I'd stick to my guns and make it clear I wanted more than sex. If the first thing they want to talk about is sex, I'd say NEXT!

[shapeshifter]

18 minutes ago, Yeah No said:

Back in the late '70s when I was single I knew Penthouse Forum because my boyfriend at one time bought it and we'd read it together. After a while it got more and more out there and we decided that most of what was supposed to be true was probably fake. But it was fun to read for a hoot anyway.

NY was full of interesting characters back in the day. My husband and I reminisce about them sometimes.

In the early 90s when I moved to Sacramento from a rural area where everyone knew someone who knew that person, and before dating apps, I used to read the personals in the free advertiser paper just because they were so funny. I can't remember what they said that was so funny, but I do recall that all the men liked camping, which I now wonder if might have been an unintentional code for "might be a serial killer."

[oliviabenson]

2 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

In the early 90s when I moved to Sacramento from a rural area where everyone knew someone who knew that person, and before dating apps, I used to read the personals in the free advertiser paper just because they were so funny. I can't remember what they said that was so funny, but I do recall that all the men liked camping, which I now wonder if might have been an unintentional code for "might be a serial killer."

They wanted outdoor/camping nookie! 

[shapeshifter]

Just now, oliviabenson said:

They wanted outdoor/camping nookie! 

With the hunting knife handy.

[PRgal]

2 hours ago, shapeshifter said:

In the early 70s in my first rooming house room, I used my India ink and Crow Quill pen (bought for a drawing class) to write letters to no one. Then I'd use them to roll joints on (to catch stray leaf bits) until they got too stained and wrinkled from coffee. All of my bed sheets had a drop of black ink stain on them.

I somehow have trouble picturing you as a weed type...have you tried it recently (don't know if you can legally get it where you live)?

[shapeshifter]

11 minutes ago, PRgal said:

I somehow have trouble picturing you as a weed type...have you tried it recently (don't know if you can legally get it where you live)?

Yes it's legal here, but you are correct: 
🎼No, no, no, no, I don't smoke anymore
🎼I'm tired of waking up on the floor
🎼No, thank you, please, it only makes me sneeze
🎼And then it makes it hard to find the door
genius.com/Ringo-starr-no-no-song-lyrics

I've tried a few times in various forms in recent years at home alone for chronic pain, but I've become such a sensitive snowflake that it either makes me horribly paranoid or knocks me out physically in an equally scary way.

There are a few different edibles in my refrigerator that my son-in-law gave me to try about a year ago. I keep thinking I'll try again with a really tiny amount, but there's never a day when I'd be okay with it.

[PRgal]

4 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Yes it's legal here, but you are correct: 
🎼No, no, no, no, I don't smoke anymore
🎼I'm tired of waking up on the floor
🎼No, thank you, please, it only makes me sneeze
🎼And then it makes it hard to find the door
genius.com/Ringo-starr-no-no-song-lyrics

I've tried a few times in various forms in recent years at home alone for chronic pain, but I've become such a sensitive snowflake that it either makes me horribly paranoid or knocks me out physically in an equally scary way.

There are a few different edibles in my refrigerator that my son-in-law gave me to try about a year ago. I keep thinking I'll try again with a really tiny amount, but there's never a day when I'd be okay with it.

I don’t smoke anything so I’ve never tried a joint.  I’ve thought about edibles though…there are a few shops near me…but I have my little one to think about!!  

[Anela]

4 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

@EtheltoTillie I do not remember the last time I wrote or received a hand written letter! It’s sad tbh. It’s like a lost art.

My handwriting is terrible now.  

19 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Yes it's legal here, but you are correct: 
🎼No, no, no, no, I don't smoke anymore
🎼I'm tired of waking up on the floor
🎼No, thank you, please, it only makes me sneeze
🎼And then it makes it hard to find the door
genius.com/Ringo-starr-no-no-song-lyrics

I've tried a few times in various forms in recent years at home alone for chronic pain, but I've become such a sensitive snowflake that it either makes me horribly paranoid or knocks me out physically in an equally scary way.

There are a few different edibles in my refrigerator that my son-in-law gave me to try about a year ago. I keep thinking I'll try again with a really tiny amount, but there's never a day when I'd be okay with it.

This is one reason I’ve avoided it.  Not that anyone offered me anything, but when we first moved back over here, and shared an apartment with family, my cousins were regularly smoking it.  I wouldn’t mind trying, if it would just help me to relax.  I have no interest in anything else.  
 

my mum tried some once, but it made her cry.  

[Annber03]

5 hours ago, oliviabenson said:

Dating became not happening because most men are just into not vanilla sex and dom wanna bees. It’s like first conversation after matching goes straight to sex demands from men. 

Yeah, I've heard about that happening, too, and that's one reason I'm not all that interested in trying dating apps. That, and, knowing me, I'd probably forget i had the app/account after I set it all up. I'm just not really good at keeping up with the app/social media stuff. 

Honestly, if I were going to meet someone online, I'd probably be more likely to do so in some online fandom community or something of that sort. We'd already have a shared interest and may have already been chatting about that interest as it was, so it would be a lot easier for me to take that next step if teh opportunity presented itself. 

That said, even those kinds of places can be fraught with jerks. Case in point...

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And so many married/taken men on apps looking to cheat. Gross.

My sister encountered this when she was married - she belongs to some football groups on Facebook, and she'd be in there posting photos of herself in her favorite team's gear or talking to other fans about the team or whatever, and she talked about how SO MANY guys apparently took that as an invitation to hit on her, even knowing that she would often post and talk about her husband on Facebook and in discussions in the group. Like, god forbid a woman be in there to actually talk about the game and the team, no, clearly she's just there to find a guy/hook up with a guy. 

She's still part of those groups, but only posts occasionally now, in large part because of stuff like that. 

40 minutes ago, shapeshifter said:

Yes it's legal here, but you are correct: 
🎼No, no, no, no, I don't smoke anymore
🎼I'm tired of waking up on the floor
🎼No, thank you, please, it only makes me sneeze
🎼And then it makes it hard to find the door
genius.com/Ringo-starr-no-no-song-lyrics

Thanks, now that song's in my head :p. 

I have no interest in weed, either. Don't care if others do it, fully support legalizing it, all that sort of thing. I just don't like the smell and don't think I could stand dealing with that smell for any real length of time. 

[Dimity]

9 minutes ago, Annber03 said:

She's still part of those groups, but only posts occasionally now, in large part because of stuff like that. 

This is one of the reasons a friend of mine has her online identity on message boards, even friendly ones like this!!, as male.  She just got sick and tired of being hit on.  And not that it matters but how did these idiots think they'd be hooking up in the first place with someone who might live hundreds if not thousands of miles away? 

Edited July 24 by Dimity

[Anela]

15 minutes ago, Dimity said:

This is one of the reasons a friend of mine has her online identity on message boards, even friendly ones like this!!, as male.  She just got sick and tired of being hit on.  And not that it matters but how did these idiots think they'd be hooking up in the first place with someone who might live hundreds if not thousands of miles away? 

I have a friend who I thought was a man, for like fourteen months.  When we became friends on discord, and started chatting there, she admitted that she was a woman. That being online as a man, usually prevented harassment.  

[annzeepark914]

1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:

Yes it's legal here, but you are correct: 
🎼No, no, no, no, I don't smoke anymore
🎼I'm tired of waking up on the floor
🎼No, thank you, please, it only makes me sneeze
🎼And then it makes it hard to find the door
genius.com/Ringo-starr-no-no-song-lyrics

 

Thanks for the reminder of Ringo's song 😁

I tried CBD (??) for my back. Did nothing. 

[PRgal]

8 minutes ago, annzeepark914 said:

Thanks for the reminder of Ringo's song 😁

I tried CBD (??) for my back. Did nothing. 

You can get CBD infused water here.  Problem?  I down water like a maniac.