Bitterness Thread

[peachmangosteen]

11 hours ago, bobcat1946 said:

I think the writer must hate women.

Most do lol.

[Katy M]

14 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Sure, Brady had a bad idea. But to his credit, he recognized it and backed off. Nope, this is ALL on Gabi at this point. If she respects herself so damned little (even if she and Stefan are hot), she should find a shrink and deal with it.

Brady has a lot of faults, but as far as I am concerned, this is not one of them.

It's all on Gabi anyway, because except where children being led by older children or adults are concerned, I've never accepted the "it was his idea" excuse.   But, that doesn't make Brady a saint for suggesting it.  That's for sure.

[WendyCR72]

2 hours ago, Katy M said:

It's all on Gabi anyway, because except where children being led by older children or adults are concerned, I've never accepted the "it was his idea" excuse.   But, that doesn't make Brady a saint for suggesting it.  That's for sure.

Oh, I never claimed Brady is a saint. That is a laugh. But whatever Gabi is up to, it is completely her responsibility. That's all.

[bobcat1946]

On 5/13/2019 at 12:13 AM, Silver Raven said:

Give her a break, she hasn't had a man for a while.  😄

Still hasn't had one.  SHe just has had Vivian's spoilt brat.

[Rafael]

Instead of wasting Morgan Fairchild by casting her as Anjelica Devereaux , why didnt they cast Morgan as Linda Phillips Anderson , biological mother of Melissa Horton !?

Morgan is like 5 years younger than Elaine Princi ,the last actress to play the scheming Linda Anderson . The recast would have worked . 

This would have enabled Jane Elliot to reprise the role of Anjelica Devereaux . 

Jack returning with Anjelica would have been better than returning with Faux Eve ...ahem...NotEVE .   add Cassie Brady to the mix and we would have seen an epic battle for Jack's soul between Anjelica /Cassie vs Jennifer /Adriennne .

Afterall Jack was imprisoned by Andre in the same prison cell as Cassie Brady during the Melaswen debacle .

Both were stuck in the same cell for months and I imagine they had plenty of stuff to discuss from Jack's past to Cassie's past as Dr Rolf and Stefano's pet . 

Plus after the ISA rescued them ,it was strongly hinted that Cassie could be attracted to Jack and TIIC dropped that particular budding storyline by abruptly writting Cassie out of the story . 

Instead of Jennifer having a younger and fresh rival like Cassie ,TIIC chose to oppress us with NOTEve  and her ridiculous so-called feud with Jennifer.

[Rafael]

Hell ,instead of bringing in  flops like Deimos , TIIC could have easily brought Larry Welch back from the dead and all the Deimos shenanigans could have also been plausibly written for Larry sans a romance with Nicole.

Plus Larry did appear as a ghost taunting Hope over killing Stefano .

So Andrew Masett has no problems with Corday and could have easily been brought back to torment his enemies like victor and Hope. 

Larry could have been revealed to have faked death via car accident but the ISA ,particularly Shane Donovan , found him alive and blackmailed him to be an ISA asset otherwise they  will expose his ruse and he will go to jail for murdering the ISA agent he posed as when he deceived Billie Reed into helping him kidnap Zack .

Anyway Larry could have made a shocking return to Salem after perhaps blackmailing the governor to pardon him for his crimes . 

Shane could have  returned to Salem and  told Roman that Larry was alive all this time and the ISA chose to rather use him as their asset whenever they carry out missions and he could then reveal that he was Larry's superior and that he ended up in that South American prison back in 2010 because his asset Larry backstabbed him and betrayed him and left him to be arrested until Rafe was also arrested in the same country and somehow ended up in the same cell as Shane . 

So since 2010 Larry has been in hiding until the deaths of Stefano and Bo prompt him to return to Salem afterall its plausible for Larry to remain in hiding fearing Stefano since Larry murdered Stefano's daughter Megan . 

Plus his hated enemy Bo also died roughly the same period as Stefano thus giving Larry the confidence to return to Salem 

after Stefano and Bo deaths in 2015 are confirmed ,then Larry decides to make his triumphant return to Salem and basically does to Victor what Deimos did. 

Instead of Deimos ,it should have been Larry tormenting Victor.

Larry could have easily returned with a mysterious wife . And then ,to Maggie's horror , Larry unveils Linda Anderson as his wife  ,with Linda played by Morgan Fairchild . 

Morgan should have never been cast as Anjelica Devereaux . What a waste ! 

She would have totally rocked as Linda Anderson ,an old enemy of Maggie and Laura Horton plus Linda is Melissa Horton's biological mum. 

It would have made sense. Lets not forget that Linda and Alex Marshall burned down Anderson Manufacturing hoping to score some insurance money and Larry Welch caught them  and blackmailed them .

 Alex ended up going to jail for this crime -never to be seen again while Linda scored millions of dollars from Bob Anderson's will and left Salem . Bob was Julie's ex husband. 

Larry ,having faked his death in 2003, could have easily tracked Linda down circa 2010s and reveal he still had the evidence of her and Alex Marshall burning down Anderson Manufacturing . He can even threaten to ensure she goes to jail for that crime like Alex Marshall did . So Larry blackmails Linda to marry him so he can also get his paws on some of those Anderson millions since Larry is super broke as a result of being in jail for almost 20 years after Victor blackmailed Larry to take the fall for Victor's crimes.

Afterall ,Larry went from being the DA of Salem with a fancy mansion who was reduced to being a super broke criminal nearly 20 years later.  

Linda wouldnt even have a problem with Larry poisoning and paralysing Maggie ,afterall Linda and Maggie were involved in a  custody battle over Melissa  ,which Mickey and Maggie won .

For Larry ,poisoning and paralysing Maggie  would have been all about hurting Victor and Hope and for Linda ,it would be payback for losing Melissa to Mickey and Maggie. 

This would be Larry's revenge on Victor and Victor kinda paying the price for his past as a crime lord . 

Instead we got flop Deimos and that Helena nonsense. 

Larry would have also come face to face with his ex girlfriend ,Gwen Davis who could have been  Justin's ADA .

Besides Victor ,Gwen is the only other person who knows that Larry killed Megan ,Stefano's daughter. 

Just imagine a Victor /Kate /Justin /Philip/Julie/Maggie/Hope vs Larry Welch /Linda Anderson feud .

This would have been a super epic feud . 

But no ,they chose to terrorise us with flops like Deimos and Summer .

Edited July 16, 2019 by Rafael

[CanaryFan98]

11 hours ago, Rafael said:

Hell ,instead of bringing in  flops like Deimos , TIIC could have easily brought Larry Welch back from the dead and all the Deimos shenanigans could have also been plausibly written for Larry sans a romance with Nicole.

Plus Larry did appear as a ghost taunting Hope over killing Stefano .

So Andrew Masett has no problems with Corday and could have easily been brought back to torment his enemies like victor and Hope. 

Larry could have been revealed to have faked death via car accident but the ISA ,particularly Shane Donovan , found him alive and blackmailed him to be an ISA asset otherwise they  will expose his ruse and he will go to jail for murdering the ISA agent he posed as when he deceived Billie Reed into helping him kidnap Zack .

Anyway Larry could have made a shocking return to Salem after perhaps blackmailing the governor to pardon him for his crimes . 

Shane could have  returned to Salem and  told Roman that Larry was alive all this time and the ISA chose to rather use him as their asset whenever they carry out missions and he could then reveal that he was Larry's superior and that he ended up in that South American prison back in 2010 because his asset Larry backstabbed him and betrayed him and left him to be arrested until Rafe was also arrested in the same country and somehow ended up in the same cell as Shane . 

So since 2010 Larry has been in hiding until the deaths of Stefano and Bo prompt him to return to Salem afterall its plausible for Larry to remain in hiding fearing Stefano since Larry murdered Stefano's daughter Megan . 

Plus his hated enemy Bo also died roughly the same period as Stefano thus giving Larry the confidence to return to Salem 

after Stefano and Bo deaths in 2015 are confirmed ,then Larry decides to make his triumphant return to Salem and basically does to Victor what Deimos did. 

Instead of Deimos ,it should have been Larry tormenting Victor.

Larry could have easily returned with a mysterious wife . And then ,to Maggie's horror , Larry unveils Linda Anderson as his wife  ,with Linda played by Morgan Fairchild . 

Morgan should have never been cast as Anjelica Devereaux . What a waste ! 

She would have totally rocked as Linda Anderson ,an old enemy of Maggie and Laura Horton plus Linda is Melissa Horton's biological mum. 

It would have made sense. Lets not forget that Linda and Alex Marshall burned down Anderson Manufacturing hoping to score some insurance money and Larry Welch caught them  and blackmailed them .

 Alex ended up going to jail for this crime -never to be seen again while Linda scored millions of dollars from Bob Anderson's will and left Salem . Bob was Julie's ex husband. 

Larry ,having faked his death in 2003, could have easily tracked Linda down circa 2010s and reveal he still had the evidence of her and Alex Marshall burning down Anderson Manufacturing . He can even threaten to ensure she goes to jail for that crime like Alex Marshall did . So Larry blackmails Linda to marry him so he can also get his paws on some of those Anderson millions since Larry is super broke as a result of being in jail for almost 20 years after Victor blackmailed Larry to take the fall for Victor's crimes.

Afterall ,Larry went from being the DA of Salem with a fancy mansion who was reduced to being a super broke criminal nearly 20 years later.  

Linda wouldnt even have a problem with Larry poisoning and paralysing Maggie ,afterall Linda and Maggie were involved in a  custody battle over Melissa  ,which Mickey and Maggie won .

For Larry ,poisoning and paralysing Maggie  would have been all about hurting Victor and Hope and for Linda ,it would be payback for losing Melissa to Mickey and Maggie. 

This would be Larry's revenge on Victor and Victor kinda paying the price for his past as a crime lord . 

Instead we got flop Deimos and that Helena nonsense. 

Larry would have also come face to face with his ex girlfriend ,Gwen Davis who could have been  Justin's ADA .

Besides Victor ,Gwen is the only other person who knows that Larry killed Megan ,Stefano's daughter. 

Kassie Depaiva should have been cast as Gwen PERIOD . 

Just imagine a Victor /Kate /Justin /Philip/Julie/Maggie/Gwen/Hope vs Larry Welch /Linda Anderson feud .

This would have been a super epic feud . 

But no ,they chose to terrorise us with flops like Deimos and Summer .

I liked Deimos well VI mostly as I think the Kiriakis family should have a younger male wreaking havoc(Victor isn't getting any younger) but yeah your storyline is a 1000x better 

[Rafael]

12 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I liked Deimos well VI mostly as I think the Kiriakis family should have a younger male wreaking havoc(Victor isn't getting any younger) but yeah your storyline is a 1000x better 

Deimos was completely unnecessary and so was Xander. 

The Kiriakis clan sure as hell did not need another male character .

The Kiriakis clan already had Victor ,Justin ,Philip,Alexander,Joseph,Victor II ,Sonny and to some degree ,Brady . 

Lets not forget about Bo and Shawn being biological Kiriakis men as well. 

I feel that Paul Telfer should have been cast as Victor Kiriakis II and his twin bro ,Joseph Kiriakis. 

Both are Justin and Adrienne's adopted twin sons . 

Chronologically , Alexander and the twins were born onscreen roughly 10 years before Philip's onscreen birth . 

So they could have easily SORAS'd Victor II and Joseph by readjusting their year of birth to 1984 .

Paul Telfer  is not that old and could have easily been  passed off as two 30 year old twins back in 2015 .  

Telfer would have had more staying power playing Victor II and Joseph . Victor II 's personality could have been like Xander while Joseph is easy going and abit of a clown . 

Victor II could have been in cahoots with Big Victor and doing all those illegal businesses Xander conducted on behalf of Victor .

Would have been far more dramatic since Adrienne and Justin took their 3 older kids and left Salem to get away from Victor's influence . 

Unfortunately , one of their 4 sons is totally under Victor's influence. 

Plus Alexander ,Sonny and the twins returned to Salem offscreen back in 2007 and Adrienne told Kayla that the boys are visiting Victor and they were at Salem High for the rest of the year before leaving for Dubai at the beginning of 2008. 

They could have shown a flashback where Victor II ,worried about his place in the Kiriakis clan due to the fact that he is adopted , simply asks Victor to join the "real" family business in order to prove himself . Victor would refuse and the boy would actually keep on insisting until Victor gives in and implores Victor II not to tell Justin and Adrienne . 

They could still keep the backstory of Xander knowing Eric from their days in Africa. 

Victor II should have been the pariah of the Kiriakis clan ,while Alexander is the charismatic golden boy , Joseph being the clown and Sonny being the peacemaker and voice of reason . 

It would have been ironic and amusing seeing Victor II adopting the behaviour of his namesake . and that Victor II 's actions are motivated by his insecurity at being adopted and not being a biological Kiriakis . 

Heck, We could see Victor II pursuing Nicole thus creating conflict with Uncle Victor ,Nicole's ex husband. 

Those scenes where Victor demanded that Xander stop pursuing Nicole would have had more meat to them if Xander was Victor II .

Edited July 15, 2019 by Rafael

[Rafael]

14 minutes ago, Rafael said:

Edited July 14, 2019 by Rafael

[Apprentice79]

1 hour ago, Rafael said:

Deimos was completely unnecessary and so was Xander. 

The Kiriakis clan sure as hell did not need another male character .

The Kiriakis clan already had Victor ,Justin ,Philip,Alexander,Joseph,Victor II ,Sonny and to some degree ,Brady . 

Lets not forget about Bo and Shawn being biological Kiriakis men as well. 

I feel that Paul Telfer should have been cast as Victor Kiriakis II and his twin bro ,Joseph Kiriakis. 

Both are Justin and Adrienne's adopted twin sons . 

Chronologically , Alexander and the twins were born onscreen roughly 10 years before Philip's onscreen birth . 

So they could have easily SORAS'd Victor II and Joseph by readjusting their year of birth to 1984 .

Paul Telfer  is not that old and could have easily been  passed off as two 30 year old twins back in 2015 .  

Telfer would have had more staying power playing Victor II and Joseph . Victor II 's personality could have been like Xander while Joseph is easy going and abit of a clown . 

Victor II could have been in cahoots with Big Victor and doing all those illegal businesses Xander conducted on behalf of Victor .

Would have been far more dramatic since Adrienne and Justin took their 3 older kids and left Salem to get away from Victor's influence . 

Unfortunately , one of their 4 sons is totally under Victor's influence. 

Plus Alexander ,Sonny and the twins returned to Salem offscreen back in 2007 and Adrienne told Kayla that the boys are visiting Victor and they were at Salem High for the rest of the year before leaving for Dubai at the beginning of 2008. 

They could have shown a flashback where Victor II ,worried about his place in the Kiriakis clan due to the fact that he is adopted , simply asks Victor to join the "real" family business in order to prove himself . Victor would refuse and the boy would actually keep on insisting until Victor gives in and implores Victor II not to tell Justin and Adrienne . 

They could still keep the backstory of Xander knowing Eric from their days in Africa. 

Victor II should have been the pariah of the Kiriakis clan ,while Alexander is the charismatic golden boy , Joseph being the clown and Sonny being the peacemaker and voice of reason . 

It would have been ironic and amusing seeing Victor II adopting the behaviour of his namesake . and that Victor II 's actions are motivated by his insecurity at being adopted and not being a biological Kiriakis . 

This is the story that I have always wanted for the Kiriakis clan. The show has such a rich history and they refuse to use it to give us great stories. Anjelica should be a part of your story manipulating Victor Jr against Adrienne because of Alexander. Also, I think the Kiriakis twins were fraternal twins. Their biological mother JJ could come back to help Adrienne deal with Victor Jr.

Edited July 14, 2019 by Apprentice79

[CanaryFan98]

2 hours ago, Rafael said:

Deimos was completely unnecessary and so was Xander. 

The Kiriakis clan sure as hell did not need another male character .

The Kiriakis clan already had Victor ,Justin ,Philip,Alexander,Joseph,Victor II ,Sonny and to some degree ,Brady . 

Lets not forget about Bo and Shawn being biological Kiriakis men as well. 

I feel that Paul Telfer should have been cast as Victor Kiriakis II and his twin bro ,Joseph Kiriakis. 

Both are Justin and Adrienne's adopted twin sons . 

Chronologically , Alexander and the twins were born onscreen roughly 10 years before Philip's onscreen birth . 

So they could have easily SORAS'd Victor II and Joseph by readjusting their year of birth to 1984 .

Paul Telfer  is not that old and could have easily been  passed off as two 30 year old twins back in 2015 .  

Telfer would have had more staying power playing Victor II and Joseph . Victor II 's personality could have been like Xander while Joseph is easy going and abit of a clown . 

Victor II could have been in cahoots with Big Victor and doing all those illegal businesses Xander conducted on behalf of Victor .

Would have been far more dramatic since Adrienne and Justin took their 3 older kids and left Salem to get away from Victor's influence . 

Unfortunately , one of their 4 sons is totally under Victor's influence. 

Plus Alexander ,Sonny and the twins returned to Salem offscreen back in 2007 and Adrienne told Kayla that the boys are visiting Victor and they were at Salem High for the rest of the year before leaving for Dubai at the beginning of 2008. 

They could have shown a flashback where Victor II ,worried about his place in the Kiriakis clan due to the fact that he is adopted , simply asks Victor to join the "real" family business in order to prove himself . Victor would refuse and the boy would actually keep on insisting until Victor gives in and implores Victor II not to tell Justin and Adrienne . 

They could still keep the backstory of Xander knowing Eric from their days in Africa. 

Victor II should have been the pariah of the Kiriakis clan ,while Alexander is the charismatic golden boy , Joseph being the clown and Sonny being the peacemaker and voice of reason . 

It would have been ironic and amusing seeing Victor II adopting the behaviour of his namesake . and that Victor II 's actions are motivated by his insecurity at being adopted and not being a biological Kiriakis . 

I think what bothers me about Xander is that Justin has a son named Alexander and he would be more useful battling Sonny/Brady, romancing women in Salem possibly bonding with Jack. 

That being said I wonder why this show never bothered having a long lost female Kiriakis I mean one would be a lot less limited in the romance department.

[nilyank]

14 minutes ago, CanaryFan98 said:

That being said I wonder why this show never bothered having a long lost female Kiriakis I mean one would be a lot less limited in the romance department.

They did with Isabella.

[CanaryFan98]

21 minutes ago, nilyank said:

They did with Isabella.

True but I guess I should clarify another one... we've had multiple long lost K men.

[Rafael]

5 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

I think what bothers me about Xander is that Justin has a son named Alexander and he would be more useful battling Sonny/Brady, romancing women in Salem possibly bonding with Jack. 

That being said I wonder why this show never bothered having a long lost female Kiriakis I mean one would be a lot less limited in the romance department.

I think Chelsea Brady is sufficient as the only biological female of the Kiriakis clan . 

Afterall, when the truth about Chelsea's paternity and maternity came out circa 2005 , Kate told Chelsea that Victor was Bo's biological father and she immediately tried to endear herself to Victor and she proudly referred to him as "Grandpa Victor".  She actually preferred Victor over Shawn Sr and it was clear she only called Shawn sr grandpa out of courtesy . 

Alexander should be Philip's main rival when it comes to Victor deciding who gets to be in charge of Titan.

Lets not forget that Victor tried to get Anjelica ,while pregnant with Alexander ,to marry him and even pass off Alexander as his son and heir .  

The show could have used this bit of history to establish Philip and Alexander being rivals . 

Michael Muhney would make a great Alexander Kiriakis. 

Anjelica ,played by Jane Elliot ,could have easily taunted Philip over this little historical revelation and brag that Victor was actually prepared to raise Alexander as his son and heir before Vivian gave birth to Philip .Anjelica would try to endear herself to Alexander by trying to pull Philip down so Alexander can ascend and takeover Titan . 

Then Kate would retaliate against Anjelica 's scheming by creating her own scheme to sabotage Alexander's rep in Victor's eyes. 

Perhaps this could have resulted in Kate and Anjelica enlisting unlikely partners in their battle to secure the birthright of their respective sons . We could have witnessed a shocking team up of Anjelica / Adrienne fighting for Alexander while Kate enlists Vivian's help LOL. 

BUT unfortunately I think Adrienne will never team up with Anjelica .

But then again a Jane Elliot vs Lauren Koslow /Louise Sorels  sounds like an exciting prospect . 

.

Edited July 15, 2019 by Rafael

[WendyCR72]

35 minutes ago, Rafael said:

I think Chelsea Brady is sufficient as the only biological female of the Kiriakis clan . 

Who?  😉

[plurie]

3 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Who?  😉

Chelsea is the child of Bo and Billie Reed, who was the aborted "swamp fetus" that miraculously survived and reappeared years later to make trouble for Bo and Hope.

[Katy M]

4 hours ago, Rafael said:

I think Chelsea Brady is sufficient as the only biological female of the Kiriakis clan

There's also Ciara.

[plurie]

5 hours ago, Katy M said:

10 hours ago, Rafael said:

I think Chelsea Brady is sufficient as the only biological female of the Kiriakis clan

There's also Ciara.

And Claire, who is Bo's granddaughter.

[WendyCR72]

9 hours ago, plurie said:

Chelsea is the child of Bo and Billie Reed, who was the aborted "swamp fetus" that miraculously survived and reappeared years later to make trouble for Bo and Hope.

Oh, I know. Hence the winky face.  🙂 I just deny her very existence because she was born DEAD ON SCREEN. Ahem! But Reilly wanted "equality", since Bo/Hope had Shawn(-Douglas).

[Rafael]

9 hours ago, WendyCR72 said:

Oh, I know. Hence the winky face.  🙂 I just deny her very existence because she was born DEAD ON SCREEN. Ahem! But Reilly wanted "equality", since Bo/Hope had Shawn(-Douglas).

It was clear that he resented the previous writers for doing away with his beloved Bo/Billie pairing . 

Its clear the man loathed Bo/Hope 

[Rafael]

Time to vent some more. The show has pissed me off so many times this past decade that i could single handedly easily fill this particular thread with my rants .

[Apprentice79]

10 hours ago, Rafael said:

Time to vent some more. The show has pissed me off so many times this past decade that i could single handedly easily fill this particular thread with my rants .

I enjoy your rants because they are so true. The show has squandered so many opportunities for great stories. I am pissed we were not given a great story about Marlena's missing years. She was a brood made for the gemini twins, yuck! 

Cassie and Rex should have been Orpheus' children that Marlena was forced to raise when Orpheus kidnapped her and faked her death. The same goes for Hope's missing years, Steve's and Will's. I also hated that Hope and Steve were held captive by Stefano.  Hope was killed by Ernesto and Steve was killed by Lawrence. Susan would never have kept Will away from Jarlena. EJ should have been Tony and Anna's son who was raised by Stefano. Chad should have been Susan's EJ, it would have made him Will's peer and we would have been spared that stupid SORAS.

Edited July 18, 2019 by Apprentice79

[tribeca]

I will be really bitter if Eli and Lani don’t get a real Salem wedding.  They are a beautiful couple and I want to see them all dressed up.  Then someone unexpected from the past can interrupt the wedding.  Theo comes back   He surprises everyone by walking into the wedding.  

Abe and Lani will dance the father daughter dance. 

[CanaryFan98]

1 hour ago, tribeca said:

I will be really bitter if Eli and Lani don’t get a real Salem wedding.  They are a beautiful couple and I want to see them all dressed up.  Then someone unexpected from the past can interrupt the wedding.  Theo comes back   He surprises everyone by walking into the wedding.  

Abe and Lani will dance the father daughter dance. 

I think they'll get a wedding but Days is broke weddings aren't that great anymore I say they made an effort with the Jarlena one before Marlena got shot but otherwise its so low budget and lacking in romance otherwise.

[Rafael]

11 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

I enjoy your rants because they are so true. The show has squandered so many opportunities for great stories. I am pissed we were not given a great story about Marlena's missing years. She was a brood made for the gemini twins, yuck! 

Cassie and Rex should have been Orpheus' children that Marlena was forced to raise when Orpheus kidnapped her and faked her death. The same goes for Hope's missing years, Steve's and Will's. I also hated that Hope and Steve were held captive by Stefano.  Hope was killed by Ernesto and Steve was killed by Lawrence. Susan would never have kept Will away from Jarlena. EJ should have been Tony and Anna's son who was raised by Stefano. Chad should have been Susan's EJ, it would have made him Will's peer and we would have been spared that stupid SORAS.

Yeah . I feel that Chad should have been Elvis . 

Elvis could have returned to Salem to live with John and Marlena . 

John could have received a phonecall from out of the blue from Susan that hers ,Edmund and Elvis and their other kid's lives are in danger .  Infact its not far fetched for naive dimwit like Edmund to get himself into debt borrowing money from loan sharks.

Susan can tell John that their car got bombed and the loan sharks are after them. 

Infact they could have easily revealed that Susan and Edmund had relocated to the USA to hide from Stefano and changed their surname to Wells .

Then before John can prepare to go and help Susan ,they find Elvis John Wells on their doorstep . 

Him being referred to as EJ would have made sense if Susan kept the name John .  EJ standing for "Elvis Jr" never made sense even though Susan knew Elvis was not her baby daddy. When she posed as Kristen she named her baby John Black jr . 

So EJ standing for "Elvis John" would have been hella better and reflect EJ's history accurately. 

Anyway Will and Sonny would visit Marlena one day and then they meet EJ and they all hit it off and become besties. 

the plottwist however will be that Stefano had his goons watching Susan's family for years and he would get info that Susan and Edmund are in debt to weak loan sharks and the final reveal would be  that he was behind the car bombing .

Stefano would then hope Susan will become so desperate she will reach out to him and beg him to save her and Edmund . 

Stefano will then try to look good and heroic in the eyes of Elvis when he deals with the loan sharks because stefano would be desperate to get to know his youngest son and bring him closer .

unfortunately by the time Stefano actually pays Edmund's debt to the loan sharks and heads over to Susan's house and play Mr Superhero ,Elvis had already left the building and he is now in Salem staying with John and Marlena for his own protection ,thus pissing Stefano off . 

infact ,Stefano trying to endear himself to Elvis would have been a result of him being comatose for the entire duration of 2008 as well as Tony's death in 2009 . 

They could have used something along those lines to reintroduce Elvis  ,portrayed by Casey Deiderick . 

as for James Scott 's character. 

I dont think him being Tony and Anna's son woudd have been necessary since Tony was not Stefano's biological son. 

Stefano ,during the 1980s yearned for a biological son after it was revealed that Tony was not his biological son. 

James Scott's character could remained as Stefano's son . 

They could have simply revealed that James Scott's character was artificialy conceived at the same time as Cassie and Rex. 

Stefano's ego was shattered when it was revealed during the 1980s that Tony was not his biological son . 

Stefano yearned for an heir with DiMera blood hence why he got Andre to literally take Tony's place but unfortunately Andre was a serial killer and he killed Renee . 

It explains why Stefano wanted to claim Benjy Hawk by going as far as getting Drew Donovan to kill Benjy's mum so Benjy will be Stefano's .

But Stefano lost Benjy to Steve and Kayla and finally to Benjy's granddad ,Orion Hawk. 

After these setbacks ,Stefano would decide to play G0d and take matters into his own hands and finally produce a male heir with DiMera blood .

Rolf would extract eggs from Kate Roberts and use them to create Vincent "Vincenzo" DiMera ,Stefano's heir . 

At the same time ,Cassie and Rex are created for special purposes .

Stefano uses his semen and Kate's eggs to create Vincent DiMera and then hires an anonymous woman to carry Vincent to full term . 

Then finally , he then uses Kate's eggs and Roman's semen to create Rex - whom Stefano deems as the future pawn . 

Plus Rex would be Stefano's symbolic revenge on his Brady enemies and the people of Salem because he will be using a Brady to carry out acts of evil .

Afterall, Everybody in Salem constantly said that when you are a DiMera ,you are inherently evil. This could have been Stefano's way of taunting the Bradys and salamites about how they would constantly demonise him for being evil. 

And then Stefano created Cassie using Tony 's semen and Marlena's eggs for the purpose of curing Andre DiMera's blood disease .

Afterall , the show did make a fuss about Andre's (while posing as Tony that time)mutant blood disorder during the early 2000s .

All the egg and semen samples Stefano had collected were all destroyed when Roman escaped captivity and rigged the compound to explode and then he returned to Salem . 

But the DiMera goons were able to retrieve Stefano's projects before they were destroyed. 

Then Rolf brings Cassie and Rex to Salem into Andre's custody and lying about them being Andre and Marlena's children. 

It would have made sense if Rolf lied to andre about the gemini children lineage because he became attached to them and thought they would be better off with Andre's DiMera money and protection and Marlena's marternal guidance . 

Then later on they reveal the gemini twins are not twins afterall and Rex is Kate and Roman's offspring and Cassie is Marlena and Tony's offspring . 

Eric Winter ,who played Rex had fantastic chemistry with Grandpa Shawn , Lauren Koslow and Josh Taylor so Rex can remain a Brady . 

Alexis Thorpe ,who played Cassie ,had zero chemistry with the Brady's . She had far more chemistry with Deidre Hall , Thaao Penglis and Kirsten Storms . 

Plus Alexis had chemistry will all the young males actors  like Jason Cook and Kyle Brandt plus scorching chemistry with Bryan Datillo. Why they made her a Brady and Kate's daughter made zero sense because it limited her romantic prospects because she was now related to half of Salem .  

Edited July 18, 2019 by Rafael

[Rafael]

On 7/18/2019 at 1:48 AM, Apprentice79 said:

I enjoy your rants because they are so true. The show has squandered so many opportunities for great stories. I am pissed we were not given a great story about Marlena's missing years. She was a brood made for the gemini twins, yuck! 

Cassie and Rex should have been Orpheus' children that Marlena was forced to raise when Orpheus kidnapped her and faked her death. The same goes for Hope's missing years, Steve's and Will's. I also hated that Hope and Steve were held captive by Stefano.  Hope was killed by Ernesto and Steve was killed by Lawrence. Susan would never have kept Will away from Jarlena. EJ should have been Tony and Anna's son who was raised by Stefano. Chad should have been Susan's EJ, it would have made him Will's peer and we would have been spared that stupid SORAS.

I also wonder if Steve knew or encountered Rex and Cassie when Steve was Stefano's Mercenary during his missing years and Cassie and Rex were still under Stefano's captivity roughly at the same time.....

I refuse to believe that Stefano didnt make any use of Cassie and Rex and just created them and left them to rot in a cage until Rolf had to fly them in a cargo plane to Salem and then the plane was hit by a meteor shower and it crashed and Belle and Shawn assumed they were aliens. 

Im pretty sure Stefano exploited Rex and Cassie for his criminal empire the way he exploited Steve and John and Drew Donovan . Afterall ,Rex and Cassie were 20 years old when they crash landed in Salem ,i doubt Stefano would have just locked them up in a cage without having any use for them .

Infact ,its clear Paula Cwikly and Peter Brash were heading that direction until Dena Higley turned them into Roman and Kate's kids and not bothering to actually expand on the purpose of these twins and why Stefano created them in the first place  .

Dena just acted like Cassie and Rex were on the canvas for decades . 

Lets do the math .

 Steve did escape from the DiMeras and ended up with Vitales circa 2003 . 

Cassie and Rex were brought to Salem in mid 2002 .

Perhaps when Steve escaped as a result of his brainwashing programme breaking ,he caused enough havoc and destruction which led to Rolf saving Cassie and Rex and bringing them to Salem since the Lab or warehouse where they were kept got destroyed by Steve having a psycho break. 

Its plausible because when Steve returned in 2006 ,he a psycho break and acted in an erratic manner to the point where he ended up in a mental institution . 

So i think it would have been neat for Rex and Cassie plus Steve and Will plus Hope to go on a quest to uncover their missing years .

As you can see ,iv tried my best to write some meaty backstory for Rex and Cassie because TIIC failed in that regard despite having the entire history of the show and the characters at their disposal. 

However ,I do agree that thr gemini twins thing was ill conceived and nonsensical and it also cost the show alot of money. They clearly wasted alot of money creating the meteor shower special effects and the "spaceship "crash landing effects and the crash crater and so on . 

All this was not necessary . 

Edited July 20, 2019 by Rafael

[Rafael]

16 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

I enjoy your rants because they are so true. The show has squandered so many opportunities for great stories. I am pissed we were not given a great story about Marlena's missing years. She was a brood made for the gemini twins, yuck! 

Cassie and Rex should have been Orpheus' children that Marlena was forced to raise when Orpheus kidnapped her and faked her death. The same goes for Hope's missing years, Steve's and Will's. I also hated that Hope and Steve were held captive by Stefano.  Hope was killed by Ernesto and Steve was killed by Lawrence. Susan would never have kept Will away from Jarlena. EJ should have been Tony and Anna's son who was raised by Stefano. Chad should have been Susan's EJ, it would have made him Will's peer and we would have been spared that stupid SORAS.

Yes ,Milo "Orpheus " Harp , the ex ISA agent who wanted revenge on his former patner ,Roman Brady ,for accidentally shooting his wife . 

He was one hectic villain . 

Yeah ,I recall that there was a clip on youtube of Marlena playing mummy to a boy and girl . 

The girl was blonde and the boy had dark hair. This must be what you are referring to . 

Yeah ,i think his kids would have been decent additions . 

Sarah Brown ,who was thoroughly wasted as Madison James , would have been the perfect actress to play Orpheus's daughter. 

Afterall Sarah is the same age as Allison Sweeney and it was stated that Orpheus's children were roughly the same age as Sami and Eric . 

Instead of Eric dating Serena ,it would have been messed up seeing him date Orpheus's daughter instead . 

As for Orpheus's son , I think that the actor who played Vivian's horrible retcon son ,Quinn Hudson ,would have been decent as Orpheus's son . 

Anyways, The actor's name is Brent Foster and he is also a peer of Allison Sweeney. 

Too bad they never told us the names of Orphues's son and daughter . We already know that Orpheus's surname is Harp . 

Oh well ,perhaps the girls name is Olivia Harp and the boy is Oliver Harp . 

Edited July 18, 2019 by Rafael

[Rafael]

I am still baffled with what TIIC did with Vivian Alamain during her second stint . This was during 2009-2011 .

First of all ,Vivian disrespecting Isabella 's remains by stashing them at a pet cemetery just so she could bury Maggie alive was utter nonsense. 

Vivian knew what Isabella meant to John , a guy who grew up knowing Vivian to be his aunt . 

During 2007  ,Vivian was the same person who paid for all the  expenses  relating to John's funeral and two years later ,she returns and treats Isabella's remains like they were mere dirt . Yeah Right!!

And then to make her 2nd stint worse , TIIC dropped the bombshell that Vivian had a secret son named Quinn Hudson and that Vivian abandoned him . 

Im sorry but why would Vivian have a son of her own and still fawn hard over Lawrence ,Nicholas ,John and Philip ? 

Plus Vivian would have mentioned Quinn to John and Lawrence during the 1990s . 

Vivian even raised Nicholas as her own son as well . 

This nonsensical plot twist made no sense and I feel it completely ruined and undermined Vivian's character. Vivian had no kids of her own hence why she was absurdly desperate to have a baby that she even stole the embryo that was supposed to be implanted inside Kate's womb and implanted it in her womb and she ended up giving birth to Philip and it was clear that this was Vivian's first time giving birth . 

Yes ,she wanted to use the baby to get Victor to love her and dump Kate but she was still crazy over Baby Philip . 

On top of that her overbearing attitude towards John ,Lawrence and Nicholas was always endearing because they were basically her sons . 

And then Quinn came along and we were expected to go along with it.

Plus Quinn added nothing to the show . 

Plus killing Lawrence Alamain in order to prop up Melanie was nonsensical . 

Lawrence is one of the show's top villains and he was killed off like he was nothing . 

Plus Joe Mascolo and John Aniston were simply not getting young and bringing Lawrence back would have given the show a main villain who didnt just appear every once in a while plus I would have loved to watch Lawrence and Carly's marriege unfold.  

Plus we never got to see Steve vs Lawrence afterall ,Lawrence tried to kill Steve and sold his comatose body to Stefano . 

Plus i dont think we have ever seen Lawrence interact with his cousin Tony DiMera as well . 

If they had kept John and Tony as Brothers ,then they would have had Lawrence in common since John was Lawrence's adopted brother growing up . 

Edited July 18, 2019 by Rafael

[Rafael]

The destruction of Chloe Lane .

Its safe to say the character of Chloe Lane hasn't been the same since her 2007 return . 

What infuriated me was how she became a serial bedhopper who gives up the goodies like its going out of fashion. 

In mid 2008 -mid 2009, she slept with Philip ,Lucas and Daniel and then finally,in 2011 ,she slept with Vivian's faux son and finally became a hooker who slept with 6 clients . Then in 2016 ,she gladly gave up the goodies to Deimos and now she is eager to give up the goodies to Stefan . 

Absolutely diagusting !!!!!

Now with Philip ,I can understand but why they paired her with Lucas and Daniel ,I will never understand because she had zero chemistry with them and their disgusting attempt to depict Daniel as the love of her life made me hate Daniel even more . I loathed this character after he destroyed Nick and Chelsea. 

Brady should always be the love of her life . 

He was the first guy she ever slept with . 

He was also the first guy she had something in common with ,which was singing . 

He stood by her when she was suffering from lieukemia and also he still loved her despite that car accident which destroyed her face and lucky for her ,her facial reconstruction surgery was a success and she unveiled her fixed face during the wedding . 

Oh ,and Brady went on an adventure with her to search for Chloe's supposed biological father .

Now you expect me to believe that Chloe will just throw her relationship with Brady away just like that in order to bedhop ? I dont think so . 

Also Chloe running away from Austria and returning to Salem after Brady's supposed kidnapping also made no sense. The real Chloe would have searched all over the place for Brady .

The real Chloe would have been there for Brady once she found out he taken to rehab by Victor and insisted on seeing him and supporting him . 

The real Chloe would have fought for their marriege instead of passively surrendering by signing the divorce papers and immediately celebrate being a free woman by screwing Philip .

She should have been stubborn and tore those divorce papers up  and making it clear that Brady was there for her those years ago and now she is going to be there for him to beat drug addiction. 

Heck ,they could have revealed that it was Victor who was behind the divorce  papers and trying to use fraudulent means to get Chloe away from Brady ,afterall Victor blamed Chloe for Brady's downfall . 

Infact Brady and Chloe reuniting after Brady's return from rehab should have been a formality . Instead we got both Characters becoming bedhoppers once they divorced . 

The only outside relationship that worked for Brady was Brady/Kristen . 

I think a Brady /Chloe /Kristen love triangle would have worked . Perhaps Brady could have sorta fallen for Kristen as a result of Kristen emotionally manipulating him and him feeling sorry for her .But Brady wiuld still be devoted to Chloe while Kristen tries hard to snatch him from Chloe .

Perhaps Kristen raping Brady would have been far more dramatic than when she raped Eric ,the priest .  

Raping Eric,the priest  was extremely sleazy and sick . i guess TIIC wanted to court controversy and hope there would be an increase in the ratings as a result .

I think Kristen raping Brady would have had the same effect because he was actually John's son and Marlena raised him .

It was still an effective way for Kristen to hurt John and Marlena .

And then Chloe ended up becoming BFF's with Nicole . a Sociopath who sabotaged Chloe's facial reconstruction surgery by disguising herself as surgeon and deliberately not sterilising and cleaning the equipment which resulted in Chloe getting a flesh eating bacteria. 

Im sorry but this ridiculous. I dont think there is a person on this earth who would become BFF's with someone who tried to kill them by getting them infected with deadly bacteria .

Absolute nonsense ! 

The real Chloe would have nothing to do with Nicole at all. 

 

Edited July 19, 2019 by Rafael

[Apprentice79]

5 hours ago, Rafael said:

Eric Winter ,who played Rex had fantastic chemistry with Grandpa Shawn , Lauren Koslow and Josh Taylor so Rex can remain a Brady . 

The show never explored the Eric/Roman relationship and it could have been a story that involved John as his other father. John as Roman raised Eric. I felt that adding another son for Roman was redundant. 

5 hours ago, Rafael said:

Plus Alexis had chemistry will all the young males actors  like Jason Cook and Kyle Brandt plus scorching chemistry with Bryan Datillo. Why they made her a Brady and Kate's daughter made zero sense because it limited her romantic prospects because she was now related to half of Salem .  

Cassie and Lucas would have been a great couple and could have given Lucas a great love outside of Lumi. 

5 hours ago, Rafael said:

I dont think him being Tony and Anna's son woudd have been necessary since Tony was not Stefano's biological son. 

As a Tony/Anna fan, I always wanted them to have another son. They lost their son due to Renee's evil machinations. I could see Anna getting pregnant again and Stefano taking the baby away from her.  Plus, even if James Scott was a Dimera, he could have been Stefano's nephew. Stefano did have 6 older brothers that the show could have brought on the show. The Tony/Stefano relationship was the most complex out of all the kids that Stefano had. Stefano never cared about blood, he raised Kristen and Peter. They were never less than his biological children. 

[Rafael]

15 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

As a Tony/Anna fan, I always wanted them to have another son. They lost their son due to Renee's evil machinations. I could see Anna getting pregnant again and Stefano taking the baby away from her.  Plus, even if James Scott was a Dimera, he could have been Stefano's nephew. Stefano did have 6 older brothers that the show could have brought on the show. The Tony/Stefano relationship was the most complex out of all the kids that Stefano had. Stefano never cared about blood, he raised Kristen and Peter. They were never less than his biological children. 

 

There was no way Anna was gonna let EJ go without a fight . She loathed Stefano that much 

But i think James Scott playing Tony and Anna's  son could work . 

Tony and Anna were married in 1985 and Tony left Salem after being blackmailed and Andre snatched him as well and then went on to impersonate Tony for next decade . And then Anna received fake divorce papers from Tony and she left Salem 2 months later. 

I think it is plausible that she could have fallen pregnant when she left salem .

Yeah  , Andre(before impersonating Tony) could have cruelly kidnapped the baby boy and faked his death in a fake ransom kidnapping after Anna failed to come up with the money . 

Plus that would be the time period when Andre began impersonating Tony for the next 22 years . 

You could have Anna ,offscreen ,trying to reach out to "Tony" and wondering why he wanted to divorce her and why he is not supporting her after their son's death and "Tony" would verbally abuse her and trash her in order to get her keep her distance far from him otherwise she could have exposed his impersonation scam .

Then "Tony" gets the baby and abuses Anna even further by bragging that he has just impregnanted a random woman who has blessed him with a living son and Anna ,realising that "Tony" truly does not want to be with her ,would then cut all ties with "Tony" and never contact him again . 

Too bad all of this would happen offscreen . 

James Scott 's DiMera is then raised by "Tony" and Stefano ,with "Tony " being deliberately distant from the boy and the boy ends up bonding with his grandfather and sees Stefano as his dad in a way. 

Afterall ,Andre is a psycho who only wanted Stefano's approval and had a hard time feeling for other people hence why he was a serial killer. 

Infact taking the boy from Anna would have been Andre's way of endearing himself indirectly to Stefano by "producing " an heir and grandson .

Afterall Stefano was furious and disowned Andre after he killed Renee. Andre ,having the approval of Stefano behind Tony's face would be better than nothing. 

The beauty of all this is that Stefano himself would have no idea that Andre is impersonating Tony all along and that the boy is Anna and Tony's son . He would just know the boy being "Tony's" son with some random woman. 

He would be delighted that "Tony" is finally stepping up as his heir and becoming a true DiMera .

James Scott could have arrived as Stefano's Grandson and "Tony's" son  in 2006 and the following year during the height of the Brady/DiMera feud Andre  shockingly reveals to the newly found Tony that James Scott's character is actually Anna and Tony's son .

It would have given Andre vs Tony swordfight some weight because not only did Andre steal Tony's identity ,he also stole his son and tortured Anna by making her believe her son was dead and that Tony didnt love her . 

Also Stefano suddenly assisting Salem PD to catch Andre would have made sense in this scenario because he never forgot Andre killing Renee and on top of that ,he is angry that Andre stole Tony's life and subjected him to hellish conditions on that deserted island prison . 

Yeah that could work . Plus EJ enlisting Anna's help during that cruel hoax regarding Sydney being kidnapped could have had a lot of weight to it if Anna was Sydney's grandma. It would have also been Anna's way of getting back at Stefano for kidnapping her son and faking his death and depriving her of raising James Scott's character  . afterall ,Stefano was devastated with Sydney's kidnapping . 

Plus Anna and Marlena could have been Grandmothers to Sydney . 

That would have been interesting . 

Edited July 19, 2019 by Rafael

[Rafael]

On 7/18/2019 at 6:45 PM, Apprentice79 said:

The show never explored the Eric/Roman relationship and it could have been a story that involved John as his other father. John as Roman raised Eric. I felt that adding another son for Roman was redundant. 

Perhaps adding Rex as Roman's son could have made the Roman/John/Eric dynamic interesting . 

With Eric having bonded with John and seeking to know Roman better , all of that could have been easily derailed with Rex in the picture .

Plus Rex had zero parental contact and care while he was Stefano and Rolf's pet project. 

Rex would be like an adult infant still learning all about human bonds and i can totally see Rex and Roman becoming extremely close because in a messed up way ,he could have been Roman's second chance at parenting . 

I do recall those scenes where Shawn and Belle were teaching Cassie and Rex how to speak and how to behave and how to greet and so on when they landed in Salem as "Aliens" .  

 Perhaps  they could have  revealed Rex  to be Roman's kid from the get-go and have him actually teaching Rex and what Belle and Shawn taught them ,it would have represented a 2nd chance for him to be a parent and bond with  his kid. 

Cassie would be revealed to be Tony (Andre was posing as Tony that time )and Marlena's kid . Plus Marlena did also miss out on a couple of years with Sami and Eric during her missing years . 

Sami would have been utterly hostile to the Gemini children no doubt seeing how much Roman and Marlena pay attention to them and how  each is getting close to their respective kid  . 

I think something along those lines could have been used . 

I do agree that Eric relying on John for advice and emotional support would have been feasible because John raised him and knows him better than Roman does . But on the other hand Eric kinda feels that he is expected or obligated to have the same bond and relationship with Roman but might struggle to establish a somekind of connection with Roman . 

Edited July 20, 2019 by Rafael

[Apprentice79]

11 minutes ago, Rafael said:

Perhaps adding Rex as Roman's son could have made the Roman/John/Eric dynamic interesting . 

With Eric having bonded with John and seeking to know Roman better , all of that could have been easily derailed with Rex in the picture .

Plus Rex had zero parental contact and care while he was Stefano and Rolf's pet project. 

Rex would be like an adult infant still learning all about human bonds and i can totally see Rex and Roman becoming extremely close because in a messed up way ,he could have been Roman's second chance at parenting . 

I do recall those scenes where Shawn and Belle were teaching Cassie and Rex how to speak and how to behave and how to greet and so on when they landed in Salem as "Aliens" .  

 Perhaps  they could have  revealed Rex and Cassie  to be Roman's kids from the get-go and have him actually teaching Rex and Cassie what Belle and Shawn taught them ,it would have represented a 2nd chance for him to be a parent and bond with  his kids.

Sami would have been utterly hostile to the Gemini twins no doubt seeing how much Roman pays attention to them and how close he is getting to them . 

I think something along those lines could have been used . 

I do agree that Eric relying on John for advice and emotional support would have been feasible because John raised him and knows him better than Roman does . But on the other hand Eric kinda feels that he is expected or obligated to have the same bond and relationship with Roman but might struggle to establish a somekind of connection with Roman . 

John should have remained Roman.  I think that is when the show jumped the shark, in my opinion.  John and Roman were both damaged beyond repair after the tale of two Romans. Dee should never had demanded the writers bring back her friend Wayne as Roman.  

Also, I have always wanted Carly to have been a villainess. She and Lawrence were dynamite together. It should have been revealed that she was using a vulnerable Bo who is grieving Hope, to get close the Kiriakis money after having lost her fortune.  Once she realized that Bo wanted nothing to do with that. She could have set her sights on Victor.  Perhaps Bo could have saved Victor from her. drawing Victor and Bo closer together irritating Shawn.  I did love Bo and Carly version 1 but Lawrence and Carly had potent chemistry.  An evil duo wreaking havoc in Salem who are not Dimeras could have been great. 

Victor trying to kill Bo for Carly was so out of character for me. I hated that story with a passion. Victor was so delusional regarding Carly, it made him look like a weak fool.

Edited July 18, 2019 by Apprentice79

[Katy M]

19 minutes ago, Apprentice79 said:

John should have remained Roman.  I think that is when the show jumped the shark, in my opinion.  John and Roman were both damaged beyond repair after the tale of two Romans. Dee should never had demanded the writers bring back her friend Wayne as Roman.  

I agree.  John should have just stayed Roman. I actually remember an interview in Soap Opera Digest back then. Either Drake Hogestyn or Peggy McCay made some joke about Caroline looking back and forth between Roman and John, there being a foot height difference (slight exaggeration whoever said, I can't imagine it's more than 4, maybe 5 inches tops) and not being able to figure out which was her son.  LOL.

[CountryGirl]

I agree that John should have stayed Roman as well or, at minimum, been the son of Colleen and Santo, making him a Brady and a Dimera.

[Rafael]

2 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

John should have remained Roman.  I think that is when the show jumped the shark, in my opinion.  John and Roman were both damaged beyond repair after the tale of two Romans. Dee should never had demanded the writers bring back her friend Wayne as Roman.  

Also, I have always wanted Carly to have been a villainess. She and Lawrence were dynamite together. It should have been revealed that she was using a vulnerable Bo who is grieving Hope, to get close the Kiriakis money after having lost her fortune.  Once she realized that Bo wanted nothing to do with that. She could have set her sights on Victor.  Perhaps Bo could have saved Victor from her. drawing Victor and Bo closer together irritating Shawn.  I did love Bo and Carly version 1 but Lawrence and Carly had potent chemistry.  An evil duo wreaking havoc in Salem who are not Dimeras could have been great. 

Victor trying to kill Bo for Carly was so out of character for me. I hated that story with a passion. Victor was so delusional regarding Carly, it made him look like a weak fool.

Yes , Carly did come from a wealth family known as the Von Luschner family . 

It actually does make sense for her to go after men like Lawrence and Victor -both of whom come from wealthy dynasties. 

Plus Carly was propped up like hell during her first stint like she was the 2nd coming of mother Theresa to the point where even Alice Horton wanted to push Bo and Carly together . Plus she cured Shawn's temporary deaf disability . 

She was such a Mary Sue back then . I think her and Lawrence having a stormy marriege would have given the character a much needed edge . 

Victor trying to kill Carly was just a sick attempt to prop her up some more by throwing Victor under the bus . nothing more nothing less. 

Deidre Hall was incredibly selfish to make such a demand . 

Drake had already established himself as Roman and he made the role his own as well . 

Plus he had chemistry with all the Brady siblings and the height difference between Drake and Wayne Northrop was also noticeable . 

The biggest casualty of that debacle is Roman.  

John was depicted as being superior to Roman in every way and when Josh Taylor was cast as Roman , the character was pretty much finished .  

This debacle also led to a plothole when Orpheus ,Clyde and Xander escaped from jail. 

TIIC forgot that Roman accidentally shot and killed Orpheus's wife .

Orpheus did come back to get revenge on "Roman " and assumed Drake's Roman was indeed thee Roman Brady . 

but TIIC made it seem like it was John Black who killed Orpheus's wife . 

they actually stole Roman's character history and simply allocated that piece of history to Drake's John black . 

it makes you wonder why  they even bothered with the Roman recasting if they were going to treat him as an after thought.  

they could have avoided such nonsense if Deidre Hall hadnt demanded that Wayne Northrop be brough back 

Edited July 18, 2019 by Rafael

[CanaryFan98]

6 hours ago, Rafael said:

I am still baffled with what TIIC did with Vivian Alamain during her second stint . This was during 2009-2011 .

First of all ,Vivian disrespecting Isabella 's remains by stashing them at a pet cemetery just so she could bury Maggie alive was utter nonsense. 

Vivian knew what Isabella meant to John , a guy who grew up knowing Vivian to be his aunt . 

During 2007  ,Vivian was the same person who paid for all the  expenses  relating to John's funeral and two years later ,she returns and treats Isabella's remains like they were mere dirt . Yeah Right!!

And then to make her 2nd stint worse , TIIC dropped the bombshell that Vivian had a secret son named Quinn Hudson and that Vivian abandoned him . 

Im sorry but why would Vivian have a son of her own and still fawn hard over Lawrence ,Nicholas ,John and Philip ? 

Plus Vivian would have mentioned Quinn to John and Lawrence during the 1990s . 

Vivian even raised Nicholas as her own son as well . 

This nonsensical plot twist made no sense and I feel it completely ruined and undermined Vivian's character. Vivian had no kids of her own hence why she was absurdly desperate to have a baby that she even stole the embryo that was supposed to be implanted inside Kate's womb and implanted it in her womb and she ended up giving birth to Philip and it was clear that this was Vivian's first time giving birth . 

Yes ,she wanted to use the baby to get Victor to love her and dump Kate but she was still crazy over Baby Philip . 

On top of that her overbearing attitude towards John ,Lawrence and Nicholas was always endearing because they were basically her sons . 

And then Quinn came along and we were expected to go along with it.

Plus Quinn added nothing to the show . 

Plus killing Lawrence Alamain in order to prop up Melanie was nonsensical . 

Lawrence is one of the show's top villains and he was killed off like he was nothing . 

Plus Joe Mascolo and John Aniston were simply not getting young and bringing Lawrence back would have given the show a main villain who didnt just appear every once in a while plus I would have loved to watch Lawrence and Carly's marriege unfold.  

Plus we never got to see Steve vs Lawrence afterall ,Lawrence tried to kill Steve and sold his comatose body to Stefano . 

Plus i dont think we have ever seen Lawrence interact with his cousin Tony DiMera as well . 

If they had kept John and Tony as Brothers ,then they would have had Lawrence in common since John was Lawrence's adopted brother growing up . 

I didn't think MS wanted to be back full time he's pretty much retired from acting so killing off Lawrence I understood but it should've been Jennifer that killed him not Carly and have it be all about Melanie of all people.

[CanaryFan98]

5 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

The show never explored the Eric/Roman relationship and it could have been a story that involved John as his other father. John as Roman raised Eric. I felt that adding another son for Roman was redundant. 

Cassie and Lucas would have been a great couple and could have given Lucas a great love outside of Lumi. 

As a Tony/Anna fan, I always wanted them to have another son. They lost their son due to Renee's evil machinations. I could see Anna getting pregnant again and Stefano taking the baby away from her.  Plus, even if James Scott was a Dimera, he could have been Stefano's nephew. Stefano did have 6 older brothers that the show could have brought on the show. The Tony/Stefano relationship was the most complex out of all the kids that Stefano had. Stefano never cared about blood, he raised Kristen and Peter. They were never less than his biological children. 

Yes they should've made EJ or even Chad Tony/Anna's kid I mean really why does Stefano father every kid but I'm supposed to believe Tony etc never had outside kids? Sure...

I agree about Lucas/Cassie I too thought they had great chemistry and would've given Lucas a legit love interest post Sami but alas they ruined it for nothing.

[CanaryFan98]

4 hours ago, Apprentice79 said:

John should have remained Roman.  I think that is when the show jumped the shark, in my opinion.  John and Roman were both damaged beyond repair after the tale of two Romans. Dee should never had demanded the writers bring back her friend Wayne as Roman.  

Also, I have always wanted Carly to have been a villainess. She and Lawrence were dynamite together. It should have been revealed that she was using a vulnerable Bo who is grieving Hope, to get close the Kiriakis money after having lost her fortune.  Once she realized that Bo wanted nothing to do with that. She could have set her sights on Victor.  Perhaps Bo could have saved Victor from her. drawing Victor and Bo closer together irritating Shawn.  I did love Bo and Carly version 1 but Lawrence and Carly had potent chemistry.  An evil duo wreaking havoc in Salem who are not Dimeras could have been great. 

Victor trying to kill Bo for Carly was so out of character for me. I hated that story with a passion. Victor was so delusional regarding Carly, it made him look like a weak fool.

I would've loved this story this is what fanfic dreams were made of.

[Rafael]

On 7/19/2019 at 12:14 AM, CanaryFan98 said:

On 7/19/2019 at 12:16 AM, CanaryFan98 said:

I agree about Lucas/Cassie I too thought they had great chemistry and would've given Lucas a legit love interest post Sami but alas they ruined it for nothing.

Alternatively and ultimately ,we could undo the whole Gemini twins and petri dish conception . I mean the whole Rex and Cassie being DiMera pets created from Semen and eggs and implanting the fetus inside Marlena was just convulated and overkill. Afterall ,Sarah was also conceived this way . 

I guess they did that whole Gemini twins thing in an attempt to create a "smart " and complicated storyline and all it did was raise eyebrows and create plotholes and stagnant characters like Cassie for instance . Cassie became completely useless when they revealed that she is Kate's daughter and there was light at the end of the tunnel for the character when she was imprisoned with Jack during the Melaswen saga and their budding romance was strangely dropped and Cassie was written out without a lousy farewell scene . 

I am starting to think that perhaps Rex and Cassie could have ended up being the children of Eric Brady ,brother of grandpa Shawn. 

Both would have been Bradys and crucially ,Cassie would still be a viable love interest for the males on the show instead of being wasted as Kate's daughter . 

Plus Eric Winter was born in 1976, making him and Allison Sweeney the same age .

Plus Alexis Thorpe,who played Cassie  was born in 1980. 

its not far fetched for Eric Brady 1 to have his own kids since the character only appeared onscreen for the first time in 1982.  

Eric was the uncle of Roman ,Kimberly ,Kayla ,Bo and Colin Murphy . 

And he was the uncle who molested Kim and wanted to molest Carrie as well. 

Ultimately ,I think Cassie and Rex should be Eric Brady's kids with an unknown woman . 

That whole gemini twins thing was just too convulated and the writers were  trying way too hard to make "smart" science fiction on a soap opera. 

Simplicity is not a sin. 

Edited July 20, 2019 by Rafael

[CanaryFan98]

See that would've made an awesome story especially if Kim/Theresa/Shane were still around to deal with it because of what Eric did to Kim. 

That's too character driven for this show.

[Rafael]

11 hours ago, CanaryFan98 said:

See that would've made an awesome story especially if Kim/Theresa/Shane were still around to deal with it because of what Eric did to Kim. 

That's too character driven for this sho

Yeah ,Cassie and Rex could have moved to Salem after Rex gets a job at Salem University or Salem High as a physics teacher and decides to move in with Grandpa Shawn . Shawn will just sorta welcome them out of courtesy .

Unbeknowst to Rex and Cassie ,their dad (who was killed in jail) molested their cousin Kimberly and tried to do the same to Carrie.

They wouldnt know why the other Bradys are abit distant to them.Though I could see Dr Colin Murphy being friendly with them .

Plus it would have also involved grandpa Shawn as well dealing with his brother's offsprings reminding him of what Eric did to Kim and tried to do to Carrie.  

Perhaps he could have been projecting his loathing for his brother onto Rex . 

Perhaps he could have been constantly monitoring Rex when he is interacting with young Will ,who was a regular resident of the Brady Pub as a young boy assuming that he inherited his father's paedophilia 

Nailing Rex , would be Grandpa Shawn's own way of redeeming himself after "failing"  to protect Kim when she was younger . 

Or when Rex was inventing that fancy machine which converts coal and rocks to diamonds ,Grandpa Shawn would notice it and assume he is planning a terrorist attack and call Salem PD on Rex. 

I could picture Rex noticing that Grandpa Shawn treats Colin like royalty.

I could just picture grandpa Shawn and Bo left with some egg on the face when it turns out that golden boy Colin Murphy was working for the DiMeras with Rex proven innocent of the "crimes" he was suspected of trying to commit. 

It would have been interesting for the Bradys to experience turmoil amongst themselves. 

Edited July 20, 2019 by Rafael

[Rafael]

There are also casting decisions which baffled me . The show has a long history and once again TIIC failed dismally make use of the show's history when making decisions like which characters certain actors will portray . 

Example: 

1.)Daniel Cosgrove 

Instead of casting him as some random dude named Aiden Jennings ,why didnt they cast him as Kevin Cates ,son of Richard Cates . 

Infact Richard was the Salem PD station commander circa 1985 and I believe Alice Horton tried to play match maker by hooking him up with the recently widowed Marlena after Roman died during that famous cliff battle between Roman and Stefano. 

Anyway it turned out that Richard was a corrupt cop and Victor's goon alongside Steve and Savannah Wilder . 

Richard also murdered Valerie Grant's Brother ,Danny Grant . 

Richard had a 15 year old teen son named Kevin Cates .

Richard ended up being exposed and cornered by Abe and his brother ,Theo Carver and Richard shot Theo and Theo died .Infact Theo ,who was a cop as well ,wanted Richard to face justice over the murder of Theo's friend ,Danny Grant. Unfortunately Theo died. 

but Shane Donovan and Abe Carver did end up surrounding Richard's house during a police raid and Abe shot Richard in self defence but before Richard died , he begged Marlena to look out for Kevin and that she should make sure Kevin grows up to be a better man than Richard . 

Now Daniel Cosgrove was born in 1970 . and It was stated that Kevin Cates was 15 years old in 1985 . 

Why didnt TIIC simply cast Cosgrove as Kevin Cates instead of casting him as Aiden ? 

It would have been easier introducing Kevin to new viewers since the character already has historical ties to characters like Marlena ,Abe ,Steve, Shane Donovan and Victor Kiriakis due to his father's actions . 

Kevin could have easily returned to Salem as the new DA or perhaps the new Commisioner after ,lets say Ben Westen murders Roman instead of Will. 

Kevin would be determined to restore some honour to his family name since his father was a respected cop until his fall from grace . Kevin would be welcomed to Salem by Marlena obviously and endure an awkward encounter with mayor Abe Carver given that Kevin's dad was the one who murdered Abe's brother .

Plus Kevin could announce his arrival by stopping at the Kiriakis mansion and reveal that he knows his father was Victor's goon when Richard commited his crimes and Kevin would swear to bring Victor down for his part in getting Richard to stray from his moral duties as a cop. 

Plus Kevin and Hope's budding relationship would be far more organic since the both of them would be cops and interact alot .

But noooo ,instead of utilising history ,we get a completely new lame character with absolutely no ties to Salem at all .

A character they had to spend alot of time establishing and getting the audience to care for . 

Plus the actor who was wasted as Celeste Perrault's contrieved and retcon son ,Cameron Davis could have easily been cast as Jett Carver .

The actor's name is Nathan Owens. 

Jett is Abe's nephew and the son of the late Theo Carver .

Plus Jett was an ISA agent who got fired from the ISA and ended up working with Billie Reed as a security guard at Salem University. Jett could have easily been hired as a cop after quitting his security job and is forced to take orders from the son of the man who shot his dad. Kevin and Jett could have had a volatile relationship like Riggs and Murtaugh from Lethal Weapon movies . 

Such wasted potential storylines!

Edited July 20, 2019 by Rafael

[CanaryFan98]

I liked Aiden but yeah this could've worked. I'm actually glad Hope went for someone who wasn't a cop for a change. I found Aiden easier to accept because he was different from Bo and brought out a different side to Hope. Breaking those two up did more damage to Hope in the long run than Aiden honestly.

[Rafael]

Time to rant some more regarding the ridiculous casting decisions made by TIIC in the last couple of years. 

Since 2011 ,we have witnessed a rising epidemic of long time characters suddenly having these contrieved and retcon offsprings emerging from nowhere.  

We had Vivian Alamain having a contrieved son from nowhere named Quinn Hudson . 7 years later ,she had another contrieved son from nowhere known as Stefan . 

We had John Black also gaining a contrieved son known as Paul Narita ,who was supposedly conceived during Marlena's demon possesion storyline offscreen . 

Steve gained a contrieved son of his own known as Tripp Dalton .

Victor Kiriakis would later gain a contrieved brother known as Deimos Kiriakis .

Celeste Perrault would later gain another contrieved offspring known as Cameron Davis .

If I had it my way ,this is how I would have introduced all these actors playing these characters  by using the show's own history:

1.) Paul Narita should have been the son of Peter Blake. 

Peter was present in Salem during Marlena's famous demon possesion storyline and could have impregnanted Paul's mum ,who was a DiMera goon . 

Would have been interesting seeing Marlena and John being buddies with Kristen's nephew. 

2.) Lucas Adams ,who  plays Tripp , should have been cast as Steven Hawk , son of Benjy Hawk. 

Infact when you google Jim Lunsford ,who played Benjy ,you will notice that he shares a resemblance with Lucas Adams . 

Steven could have returned to Salem to get revenge on Andre ,who murdered Benjy . 

Benjy's widow ,Sonja Hawk ,could have contacted Steve and Kayla and let them know that Steven found out about Andre's comeback  and he has vanished and might be on a self- destructive path of revenge and is possibly heading to the US .Sonja would reveal that Steven even took his granddad Orion Hawk's guns . 

Dont forget that Orion was a master mercenary and assasin who trained John how to be a mercenary . Thats how his daughter Ellen Hawk interacted with Stefano and Stefano seduced her and she got pregnant with Benjy. 

Anyway ,Steve would head to Europe to search for Steven and stop him from making a huge mistake .

Steven coming to Salem to get revenge on the man who killed his dad is far better than that whole "Tripp wants to avenge Ava ,a psycho mummy he did not even know personally". 

I can see Steven staying with Steve and Kayla and being a big bro to Tyler "Pocket " Johnson and also getting along with cousin Theo and not wanting to have anything to do with the DiMera empire. 

I wish Joey never existed.UGHHHH!! 

As for Vivian's first contrieved son ,Quinn Hudson , the actor,Brent Foster ,  should have been cast as Orpheus's son . 

Orpheus's son being a low life pimp would work since the boy grew up without a mum and dad who could guide him to make proper life choices .

Instead of Vivian's servant Gus assaulting and beating up hookers ,it should have been Orpheus's son . It would make sense if he did that and trying to frame Roman for the crimes to get back at Roman for accidentally shooting his mum and setting Orpheus on a path to his early grave. 

As for Stefan ,Tyler Christopher should have been Nicholas "Nikky " Alamain period . His obsession with Abby would mirror his father Lawrence's actions against Jennifer . 

And lastly ,Nathan Owens ,who played Celeste Perrault 's ridiculous contrieved son should have been a recast of Jett Carver . 

Edited July 20, 2019 by Rafael

[Rafael]

On 7/21/2019 at 12:09 AM, CanaryFan98 said:

I liked Aiden but yeah this could've worked. I'm actually glad Hope went for someone who wasn't a cop for a change. I found Aiden easier to accept because he was different from Bo and brought out a different side to Hope. Breaking those two up did more damage to Hope in the long run than Aiden honestly.

Kevin could also be a lawyer as well . Him being determined to nail criminals and restore honour to his family name would still suffice. 

Edited July 23, 2019 by Rafael

[CanaryFan98]

TC would've been a better Nicky Alamain recast than a retcon Dimera that wasn't even needed. It would keep him tied to Vivian if that's what they wanted. 

I wish you wrote for Days your stories are more interesting than anything the show has produced in years.

[Rafael]

Chloe becoming a contrieved hooker . 

So lame and pathetic. Chloe should have simply gone to Philip and Brady and told them about Kate attempting to blackmail her to become a hooker. That plot concorted by Kate would have been over in 3 seconds if Chloe had just told them . but no we had to get that contrieved nonsense being depicted like Chloe had no choice but to become a hooker . 

Would have been better if it was  Taylor Walker,who was on the canvas that time , becoming a hooker instead of Chloe . 

There ! This garbage storyline was not necessary and it destroyed my ghoul girl for no reason . 

[CanaryFan98]

5 minutes ago, Rafael said:

Chloe becoming a contrieved hooker . 

So lame and pathetic. Chloe should have simply gone to Philip and Brady and told them about Kate attempting to blackmail her to become a hooker. That plot concorted by Kate would have been over in 3 seconds if Chloe had just told them . but no we had to get that contrieved nonsense being depicted like Chloe had no choice but to become a hooker . 

Would have been better if it was  Taylor Walker,who was on the canvas that time , becoming a hooker instead of Chloe . 

There ! This garbage storyline was not necessary and it destroyed my ghoul girl for no reason . 

I'm not fond of Chloe but yeah I found the hooker though rather unnecessary if not Phillip or Brady she could've told Craig/Nancy who would've gotten in Kate's face over the whole thing. I loved how they were a scheming couple devoted to each other and their family.

[Rafael]

Let me rant some more with regards to the bizarre casting decisions . 

Lets talk about Sean Douglas ,who played that ex con named Vargas .

Now here is an actor who had chemistry with everyone from Hope ,Nicole , Theresa and  Father Eric . 

Plus he was a hit with the female viewers . 

Too bad they gave him such a useless character. 

It would have been better if he was cast as Tanner Scofield .

Tanner 's father ,Vern Scofield ,is married to Jo Johnson . 

This means that Tanner and his siblings Cassie and Brian are Steve ,Adrienne and Jack's step siblings . 

Plus Sean Douglas was born in the same year as Michael Easton ,who played Tanner during the early 1990s. 

Plus Tanner was a detective as well. 

Tanner could have easily returned to Salem as a replacement for Bo Brady ,who had just left Salem to go on his undercover mission in europe to get some info on the DiMeras . plus it was around the time Peter Reckell left the show . 

 since everybody in salem haven't heard from Bo for so long  , Salem PD simply decide to replace him and Tanner is then transferred to Salem.