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48 minutes ago, Pearson80 said:

Do you guys think that Kim and Kanye engage in narcissistic abuse of other people?  Narcissists love to engage in that and they also  thrive in chaos while playing martyr in situations that they themselves caused.

There’s a narcissistic family dynamic. Kris uses divide and conquer tactics on the girls, pitting them against each other to be most favored - valued and ranked by what they manage to do for her vision of herself and her empire.

When Kourtney talked about being sick of the show and moving to the country, I was hopeful that she would break out - instead she fell back in line, starting a relationship she hopes will make her more valued on the show and to the queen narcissist.

imo the girls use npd tactics on each other, making sure to get digs in that cause pain and insecurity - especially Kim. And they pose in pics with their children as if the kids are merely props for the faces they might as well be making in a mirror. From stories about those who follow them around as “friends” and entourage, the loyalty goes only one way - if they fail to serve adequately, they are tossed to the curb.

Which of them could be diagnosed with npd? Can’t be sure, and they’ll never see a doctor for it. I’d guess Kris, Kim and Kanye for starters.

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1 minute ago, Fostersmom said:

Releasing this on the day the judge granted Kim's request to be declared single is sure to win her back. 

He don't want her back IMO, He's already running around town with a legitimate looking Kim clone.

 

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3 hours ago, Fostersmom said:

Releasing this on the day the judge granted Kim's request to be declared single is sure to win her back. 

It won't let me click on it, what did he do?

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8 minutes ago, carolinagirl81 said:

It's a music video where he is burying a "Pete Davidson" character. 

I found it. He's certifiable, does he really think that if Pete Davidson was gone Kim would come back to him?

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11 minutes ago, GaT said:

I found it. He's certifiable, does he really think that if Pete Davidson was gone Kim would come back to him?

I doubt it. He’s just trying to trigger her 🤣.

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12 hours ago, carolinagirl81 said:

He don't want her back IMO, He's already running around town with a legitimate looking Kim clone.

 

He does want her back -- because she got out of his control.   Its what abusers do.   It doesn't matter he is dating someone else.   She is his to control regardless of what he does.  

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The custody details should be hashed out by the judge and Kim and Kanye’s many nannies. Because that’s who the kids will be spending the majority of their time with. Both of these narcissistic nitwits spend at least a couple weeks of every month gallivanting around the world, and the kids are left at home with nannies. Sad all the way around.

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6 hours ago, merylinkid said:

He does want her back -- because she got out of his control.   Its what abusers do.   It doesn't matter he is dating someone else.   She is his to control regardless of what he does.  

He's reminding me of Chris Brown. He wouldn't leave Karrueche Tran alone & she finally had to get a restraining order against him. He kept posting things online, & threatening every guy she dated, & even made a video where he said something like once you date him, you're always his. Ye is doing the same thing. 

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1 hour ago, nexxie said:

Psycho Kanye’s going to face harassment charges if he doesn’t stop - so far everyone has gone easy on his sorry entitled ass.

Why hasn’t Kimmy filed for a restraining order If she’s so worried? IMO, Kanye’s video falls into the artistic expression category, protected by the 1st amendment. Even extremely offensive expression is covered, generally. But a judge would have to make the final decision.

49 minutes ago, GaT said:

He's reminding me of Chris Brown. He wouldn't leave Karrueche Tran alone & she finally had to get a restraining order against him. He kept posting things online, & threatening every guy she dated, & even made a video where he said something like once you date him, you're always his. Ye is doing the same thing. 

Chris Brown violently beat several women. It was more than just words and/or images. But if Kim is legitimately worried for her life, she needs to file a restraining order.

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1 hour ago, nexxie said:

An interesting peek into how Kanye “directs” people - from Julia Fox.

https://pagesix.com/2022/03/03/julia-fox-says-she-lost-15-pounds-while-dating-kanye-west/

“It definitely felt like I was his girlfriend. But it also felt like I was being cast in the role of his girlfriend — and he was casting me. He was the orchestrator of it all. It really did feel like a movie.”

 

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“I don’t think that he would want to open that door with me,” Fox, 32, said. “If you come for me, I’m going to come for you, and I’m really good at coming for people. I just go straight for the jugular. I don’t think he would be dumb enough to do that.”

Sounds like there's a whole lot of backstory there, what does she know about him?

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27 minutes ago, GaT said:

Holy shit

Sounds like there's a whole lot of backstory there, what does she know about him?

IMO She doesn't know anything She was with him for all of 5 minutes.

She is a 30-plus year old former model I don't know if she's still models and now she's got a little more attention Thanks to her Kanye association so she is capitalizing on that.

But yet she said she didn't have to be with Kanye for clout because she's used to banging billionaires

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22 minutes ago, carolinagirl81 said:

But yet she said she didn't have to be with Kanye for clout because she's used to banging billionaires

Yeah, I'm sure she was with him for his sparkling personality 🤮

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Kanye West Writes 'Divorce' Poem

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His closing lines of "Divorce" prose are pretty puzzling, though: "Michael Jackson said it best, You're a vegetable, You're a vegetable, You're the real Cosby, Not a Huxtable."

MJ famously dropped the "vegetable" line in "Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'" ... but the Cosby stuff, that's all Ye.

OMG, he's been singing the lyrics to "Wanna Be Startin’ Somethin" wrong all this time, "You're the real Cosby, Not a Huxtable." 😂 😂 😂 😂

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“Divorce feels like your kids were snatched from your control.”

”You are not you anymore.”

Losing control has got to be hard for Kanye - he really isn’t himself without being in control. No narcissist is. Sad, anyway you look at it.

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7 hours ago, nexxie said:

he really isn’t himself without being in control. No narcissist is. Sad, anyway you look at it.

I'm long past the point of feeling sad for Kanye, if he had just taken his damn medicine he probably wouldn't be divorced now. It's all his own fault & I'm not wasting any time on his "feelings"

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22 minutes ago, GaT said:

I'm long past the point of feeling sad for Kanye, if he had just taken his damn medicine he probably wouldn't be divorced now. It's all his own fault & I'm not wasting any time on his "feelings"

Remember that Kim once agreed that he couldn’t take his meds. 🤷‍♀️

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4 hours ago, nexxie said:

Problem with the meds is they can dull creativity and other things that make people feel like themselves - it really is a sad situation all the way around.

YMMV, but I personally think that anything that makes him feel less like himself is a good thing. He can't use that excuse to get away with how he's treating other people, including the threats, both direct & the "just kidding" ones. He is no longer safe.

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1 hour ago, nexxie said:

Problem with the meds is they can dull creativity and other things that make people feel like themselves - it really is a sad situation all the way around.

Exactly what is feeling like himself? Would he know at this point?

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Maybe he shouldn’t have moved to another state away from his family while married. I don’t feel bad for either of them just the kids. 

Kanye is an asshole when any of his relationships end. He trashed Amber Rose too when they broke up. He’s a dick.

Him being sad about the divorce is a joke as well as being sad about his kids. He probably spent like 2 days a month with them even when he was married to Kim.

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On 3/5/2022 at 8:13 AM, nexxie said:

“Divorce feels like your kids were snatched from your control.”

Sums up what he thinks about his kids.,   Just things to control, not even people with their own likes and wants and needs.  

Kimmie may see them as accessories, but this is worse.  

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5 hours ago, Marley said:

Maybe he shouldn’t have moved to another state away from his family while married. I don’t feel bad for either of them just the kids. 

Kanye is an asshole when any of his relationships end. He trashed Amber Rose too when they broke up. He’s a dick.

Him being sad about the divorce is a joke as well as being sad about his kids. He probably spent like 2 days a month with them even when he was married to Kim.

Many couples live apart for some of the year and have multiple homes in different states, especially artists, actors, and musicians. Why didn’t Kimmy follow him? (Not that she was obligated to). And Kim spends probably 2 weeks of every month gallivanting around the country/world without her kids. Let’s face it - nannies are raising these kids and both parents have been ok with that.

3 hours ago, merylinkid said:

Sums up what he thinks about his kids.,   Just things to control, not even people with their own likes and wants and needs.  

Kimmie may see them as accessories, but this is worse.  

Kardashian women all think they should have full control over their kids, ultimately. I feel sorry for all of the dads of these kids because they’re all ultimately secondary to the coven. 

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On 3/5/2022 at 4:32 PM, Cinnabon said:

Remember that Kim once agreed that he couldn’t take his meds. 🤷‍♀️

Kanye taking his meds is not Kim's responsibility, then or now.  And if you think someone can convince Kanye, a billionaire narcissist, to do something he doesn't want to do, I think you are wrong.  Other than trying to get Kanye in a conservatorship like Britney Spears, there is no way for Kim to compel him to do anything.  And I can only imagine people's reaction if she had tried THAT!  

I'm so over people coming up with a way to blame women for men's behavior.  It happens every since time a man does something bad, and it is just such blatant misogyny.  

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39 minutes ago, ThatGreyCat said:

Kanye taking his meds is not Kim's responsibility, then or now.  And if you think someone can convince Kanye, a billionaire narcissist, to do something he doesn't want to do, I think you are wrong.  Other than trying to get Kanye in a conservatorship like Britney Spears, there is no way for Kim to compel him to do anything.  And I can only imagine people's reaction if she had tried THAT!  

I'm so over people coming up with a way to blame women for men's behavior.  It happens every since time a man does something bad, and it is just such blatant misogyny.  

Not her fault at all, but as a spouse she was just seemingly blowing it off. She could have said she wished he would take it, but couldn’t force him to do so. What she said was completely different.

And btw- I’m a woman and a feminist, so blaming my views on “misogyny “ is laughable. 🤷‍♀️

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Is Kanye so big that he can’t get rejection in the media to the extent that it bruises his ego?  Can he become like a pariah….to be scorned by his colleagues?  Will he be defended in general as he publicly receives admonishments?  Will anyone be able to get an involuntary commitment on him for being a danger?  

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59 minutes ago, SunnyBeBe said:

Is Kanye so big that he can’t get rejection in the media to the extent that it bruises his ego?  Can he become like a pariah….to be scorned by his colleagues?  Will he be defended in general as he publicly receives admonishments?  Will anyone be able to get an involuntary commitment on him for being a danger?  

No, no and no.

Because while nobody deserves to be harassed, stalked, threatened and abused because that is what Kanye is doing to Kim and Pete.

Money = Power and he's a "high-profile" individual so he's almost Teflon.

 

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48 minutes ago, carolinagirl81 said:

No, no and no.

Because while nobody deserves to be harassed, stalked, threatened and abused because that is what Kanye is doing to Kim and Pete.

Money = Power and he's a "high-profile" individual so he's almost Teflon.

 

Remember Britney. 🤷‍♀️

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2 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

Remember Britney. 🤷‍♀️

Her father did that. 

Is Kanye's father still alive?

Seems the high profile/celebrity conservatorships Britney Spears and Amanda Bynes their parents/parent set those up after a major public breakdown.

So who would be the one to do that in Kanye's case and If they were going to do so they should have done it when he had his breakdown and was hospitalized a few years ago.

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3 minutes ago, carolinagirl81 said:

Her father did that. 

Is Kanye's father still alive?

Seems the high profile/celebrity conservatorships Britney Spears and Amanda Bynes their parents/parent set those up after a major public breakdown.

So who would be the one to do that in Kanye's case and If they were going to do so they should have done it when he had his breakdown and was hospitalized a few years ago.

Um, his wife?

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4 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

Remember Britney. 🤷‍♀️

Female vs male

1 hour ago, carolinagirl81 said:

Is Kanye's father still alive?

Yep. My favorite part of the article:

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"My dad came to visit me at one of our ranches in Cody, Wyoming," the rapper wrote. "He talked about his love for fishing, and how he could come here in the summers. It took me 42 years to realize that my dad was my best friend," Kanye continued. "

So of course he's selling the property.

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17 hours ago, ThatGreyCat said:

I'm so over people coming up with a way to blame women for men's behavior.  It happens every since time a man does something bad, and it is just such blatant misogyny.  

In this case it's because the other party is Kim.   People hate Kim so much that they will excuse just about ANY behavior on Kanye's part and put the blame on Kim.   I'm no Kim fan but I can look at this particular situation and put the blame for how messy it is on the person who is making it messy -- Kanye.    

Kim filed for divorce.   Okay, its her right to decide she doesn't want to put up with his bullshit anymore.   She has tried to work it out.   She just wants the prenup followed.   Nothing seems to indicate that if he behaved like a rational human being she would keep the kids from him.   Goodness knows she doesn't really want them either.   She wasn't posting all over social media about it.   So she started dating again -- they are getting divorced that marriage is OVER.   Why should she wait for some arbitrary date in the future -- made further in the future by the antics of her ex -- to start living her life?   Kanye is dating again but no one is dragging HIM for "violating" his marriage vows.  

You can hate on Kim for what she does.   But also pay attention to what Kanye ACTUALLY DOES, not just see it as "Not Kim so its okay."

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3 hours ago, merylinkid said:

In this case it's because the other party is Kim.   People hate Kim so much that they will excuse just about ANY behavior on Kanye's part and put the blame on Kim.   I'm no Kim fan but I can look at this particular situation and put the blame for how messy it is on the person who is making it messy -- Kanye.    

Kim filed for divorce.   Okay, its her right to decide she doesn't want to put up with his bullshit anymore.   She has tried to work it out.   She just wants the prenup followed.   Nothing seems to indicate that if he behaved like a rational human being she would keep the kids from him.   Goodness knows she doesn't really want them either.   She wasn't posting all over social media about it.   So she started dating again -- they are getting divorced that marriage is OVER.   Why should she wait for some arbitrary date in the future -- made further in the future by the antics of her ex -- to start living her life?   Kanye is dating again but no one is dragging HIM for "violating" his marriage vows.  

You can hate on Kim for what she does.   But also pay attention to what Kanye ACTUALLY DOES, not just see it as "Not Kim so its okay."

Please don’t try to speak for all of us. NO ONE has said abuse against Kim is OK.

These people have private planes. How long is a flight to Wyoming anyway?

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9 minutes ago, Cinnabon said:

These people have private planes. How long is a flight to Wyoming anyway?

And she showed up once and he refused to see her.   What is she supposed to do force her way in because they promised "until death do us part?"   It takes two to make a marriage work.   Kim can't be solely to blame if Kanye ain't putting in the effort either.

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18 minutes ago, merylinkid said:

And she showed up once and he refused to see her.   What is she supposed to do force her way in because they promised "until death do us part?"   It takes two to make a marriage work.   Kim can't be solely to blame if Kanye ain't putting in the effort either.

 Neither of these two should be allowed to marry again. And these fools actually renewed their vows in 2019! The ones who really lose are the poor children they brought into their narcissistic mess. 

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And in today's WTF........

Kanye West Writes He's Dead in Dark Poem

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He then reveals in poetic fashion how he met his demise ... I found out one day at the newsstand in purgatory there was a front page article of my murderer's story." He does not identify the murderer.

How long do you think it will be until we find out he was murdered by Pete Davison?

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Meh Pete’s still an idiot. Especially if he already got Kim’s name tattooed on him. I also doubt Kim is the greatest mother ever so Pete prob knew those texts would get out.

Kanye needs to be committed tho. He’s getting crazier by the second and I feel like he’s going to do something really bad. The guy needs serious help.

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Okay WTF is really going on?! Kanye's people need to SHUT HIM DOWN and take all Mobile devices away! 

He's gone on another rant saying he can't see the kids, which Kim actually commented on the Instagram post and said STFU you just took our children to school that morning. 

He also named the school that the kid's attended in a deleted post talking about he didn't want them to even go to that particular school... Um sir 

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1 hour ago, carolinagirl81 said:

Okay WTF is really going on?! Kanye's people need to SHUT HIM DOWN and take all Mobile devices away! 

He's gone on another rant saying he can't see the kids, which Kim actually commented on the Instagram post and said STFU you just took our children to school that morning. 

He also named the school that the kid's attended in a deleted post talking about he didn't want them to even go to that particular school... Um sir 

Obviously Kim & Pete were just waiting for her to be declared single to start firing back, I bet we start seeing a lot more responses from them now. Kanye seems to think he can win by popular vote or something, someone needs to explain to him that the person who will decide child custody is a judge & they will probably not be impressed with his public rants, especially when he doesn't seem to remember picking up his kids just a few hours ago. I really don't think anyone can trust his judgement with his kids at this point.

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2 hours ago, carolinagirl81 said:

Okay WTF is really going on?! Kanye's people need to SHUT HIM DOWN and take all Mobile devices away! 

He's gone on another rant saying he can't see the kids, which Kim actually commented on the Instagram post and said STFU you just took our children to school that morning. 

He also named the school that the kid's attended in a deleted post talking about he didn't want them to even go to that particular school... Um sir 

Honestly, why have Pete and Kimmy not simply blocked him on SM yet? They’re clearly not afraid for their lives and should just be the adults here and go on with their business quietly. Responding to him and posting adolescent kissy face pictures is just adding to the idiocy and provoking Kanye more 🤷‍♀️.

1 hour ago, GaT said:

Obviously Kim & Pete were just waiting for her to be declared single to start firing back, I bet we start seeing a lot more responses from them now. Kanye seems to think he can win by popular vote or something, someone needs to explain to him that the person who will decide child custody is a judge & they will probably not be impressed with his public rants, especially when he doesn't seem to remember picking up his kids just a few hours ago. I really don't think anyone can trust his judgement with his kids at this point.

They’re now just poking the bear more every time they respond to him. I don’t think that behavior will make the situation any better. A judge probably won’t view snarky responses to Kanye’s manic rants as adult behavior, either.

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