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S04.E16: Life After Lockup: The Sober Truth


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Lacey drops a bomb on Shane; Nicolle makes Daonte a surprising offer; at the sober house, Brittany faces the man who conned her; Shawn fears Sara may be scamming him; Ray declares he's not a sperm donor.

Oh noes! Will Lacey tell Chane that she's talking to Chon?  Will she admit that Chane was a rebound and she is in love with Chon?  Or will the bomb she drops be the hapless couple venturing into scheisse porn in a desperate attempt to increase their pay from their online activities? 

The only thing that would be surprising is if Nicolle offers sex to Daonte and actually follows through on it.  Otherwise, it's more Nicolle stringing Daonte along.  He doesn't even have Nicolle Jr. to satisfy his urges.  May she rest in peace.

Does Brittany get through the door?  Does she retrieve the furniture?  Is this the best storyline they could think of?  Won't someone think of the furniture! It is lost and alone!  It probably cries itself to sleep at night.  😿

Ray is not a sperm donor!  I am betting this is Ray insisting he will not father a child with Britney unless they are married.  Of course, the reason he wants to marry her is to have her share responsibility for his restitution payments.  I'm sure a second mortgage could help with that. 

Finally, the two working synapses in Shawn's brain have finally connected allowing him to consider that Sara, who refuses to see him even though they are in the same town and who keeps asking him for money, just may be scamming him.  I mean, there is an infinitesimal chance that she is not interested in a real relationship with Shawn.  So small. So very small. Oh wait, that's a description if his intellectual prowess. 

Original air date 2021.10.01

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Does Brittany get through the door?  Does she retrieve the furniture?  Is this the best storyline they could think of?  Won't someone think of the furniture! It is lost and alone!  It probably cries itself to sleep at night.  😿

I understand the spirit of getting back what you are owed but I question the practicality. They are trying to recover $80,000 of merchandise. Now I didn't get a clear look at the size of the house or the number of bedrooms but I'm guessing it's not super high class. So even if they carried out ever stick of furniture, every bit of electronics, the appliances, etc.  - I'm doubting you'd get to $80000 worth of stuff at retail price. Once they have it back the only thing for them to do is to sell it and they won't get anywhere near retail for it. So I think they are going to go through a lot of trouble to net, best case scenario, a couple thousand dollars. I'm not sure it's worth it.

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On 9/25/2021 at 9:55 PM, Elizzikra said:

So even if they carried out ever stick of furniture, every bit of electronics, the appliances, etc.  - I'm doubting you'd get to $80000 worth of stuff at retail price.

I thought I heard one of them say that the furnishings were bought second hand to begin with. 

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8 hours ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

I thought I heard one of them say that the furnishings were bought second hand to begin with. 

It honestly just doesn't even seem worth the effort... Then again, I'm not out $80,000 so I guess I have no right to judge.

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On 9/25/2021 at 2:55 PM, PrincessPurrsALot said:

Does Brittany get through the door?  Does she retrieve the furniture?  Is this the best storyline they could think of?  Won't someone think of the furniture! It is lost and alone!  It probably cries itself to sleep at night.  😿

 

You are dead wrong for this!  I'm cackling!

If you're not a professional writer of some comedic variety you really should be.  

 

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On 9/25/2021 at 6:55 PM, Elizzikra said:

I understand the spirit of getting back what you are owed but I question the practicality. They are trying to recover $80,000 of merchandise. Now I didn't get a clear look at the size of the house or the number of bedrooms but I'm guessing it's not super high class. So even if they carried out ever stick of furniture, every bit of electronics, the appliances, etc.  - I'm doubting you'd get to $80000 worth of stuff at retail price. Once they have it back the only thing for them to do is to sell it and they won't get anywhere near retail for it. So I think they are going to go through a lot of trouble to net, best case scenario, a couple thousand dollars. I'm not sure it's worth it.

Why would anyone ever put high end furniture in what is essentially a halfway house?

They literally rented a moving van?  I don't care if you have a lease, the cops can still tell you to GO AWAY and will, very likely, tell you that the matter of the furniture is a civil matter.  If you were stupid enough to give him money, let a court figure that out.

I really think that Brittney could be involved in something shady and scammy.  When she mentioned "fundraising" the money my ears perked right up.  

Because what better way to convince the suckers donors you "fund-raised" from that you didn't defraud them then by blaming some other guy on national TV.  

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Why would anyone ever put high end furniture in what is essentially a halfway house?

So... it sort of depends on what market they are targeting.

Currently there are hundreds - maybe thousands - of homes in residential communities - that are residential treatment centers. Some treat addiction; some treat eating disorders; some for adults; some for teens. A lot of times, these are in upscale communities and the furnishings are quite nice. They are targeting private pay clients (or their parents). Insurance may pick up some of the tab but Mom and Dad get the rest. When they are looking for a place for their failure-to-lauch, gaming-addict 20-something to live while he gets his act together, they look at things like the furniture. There is pretty big money in this and since these "facilities" aren't licensed as any sort of medical facility, they aren't difficult to pull together or keep filled.

How do I know? The house next door to my mother was purchased by a private investment group a couple of years ago and turned into a residential treatment center for young adult males with substance abuse issues. It's a gorgeous house and when they "invited the community" to visit, I saw the furniture. All brand new and not cheap. More of a masculine flair than I would choose (obviously, since it was a facility for young men) but quality stuff. Not to mention a gigantic tv or two, a grill outside, new beds, a fully outfitted kitchen, etc.

I've also seen a couple of these places that treat eating disorders. One was a house that sold for over $1 million in an upscale neighborhood and again, new furnishings, high quality stuff and definitely expensive. 

Nonetheless, Brit and Marcellino's place may not be one of these types of places, and even if it was, you don't get retail value back if you re-sell the stuff. It all has an air of manufactured drama/desperation about it. And I say this as someone who likes Brittany and roots for her success.

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I think $80K was the amount of money that supposedly went missing from the bank account.  That would be to cover everything to do with the house, not the poor, lonely, bereft furniture. We have no idea what was actually purchased.  He probably told him he spent the money furnishing the house.  I highly doubt it. I would suspect 

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Next, Brittany and Marce will create a foundation, which, like a majority of foundations that are set up by “celebrity” types, is just another way to defraud the public. There is little, if any, oversight. People donate their hard-earned cash, thinking it will be used to help someone less fortunate, but ends up somehow finding its way into the foundation creators’ pockets.

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I thought I was in the Twilight Zone when Nicholle broke down and said she was feeling bad about the way she was treating Daonte and then - !!! - refused to take money from him!

The only thing that brought me back to reality was that she wants a threesome relationship.

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Britney's mom must fancy herself the Queen holding court with her insistence that Ray be working for 3 months before even meeting her.

Britney really is treating him like a sperm donor, but he is probably going to play the long con and insist they marry so that he can con her into taking on his restitution debt. Neither of these two are very compelling.

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On 9/25/2021 at 8:55 PM, Elizzikra said:

I understand the spirit of getting back what you are owed but I question the practicality. They are trying to recover $80,000 of merchandise. Now I didn't get a clear look at the size of the house or the number of bedrooms but I'm guessing it's not super high class. So even if they carried out ever stick of furniture, every bit of electronics, the appliances, etc.  - I'm doubting you'd get to $80000 worth of stuff at retail price. Once they have it back the only thing for them to do is to sell it and they won't get anywhere near retail for it. So I think they are going to go through a lot of trouble to net, best case scenario, a couple thousand dollars. I'm not sure it's worth it.

But the show must go on and this is B and M’s role in this disaster of a series!  How can this ban of idiots even imagine running a sober living facility.

They're all living on reality show money but are pretending to be Bill Gates  

I always hope nobody knows I watch such trash but darn I find myself looking forward to it every Friday evening!

On 9/28/2021 at 8:58 PM, Elizzikra said:

It honestly just doesn't even seem worth the effort... Then again, I'm not out $80,000 so I guess I have no right to judge.

Oh judge away!  Day after the show is Judgement day!!!  Lol

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Just now, Jeanne222 said:

But the show must go on and this is B and M’s role in this disaster of a series!  How can this ban of idiots even imagine running a sober living facility.

They're all living on reality show money but are pretending to be Bill Gates  

I always hope nobody knows I watch such trash but darn I find myself looking forward to it every Friday evening!

They keep talking about $80k but I thought that was the total investment from all backers and they had invested $8k.  Eight thousand is not insignificant but considering the house with the in-ground pool that they live in and the luxury cars they drive it is hardly ruinous.

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5 hours ago, renatae said:

I thought I was in the Twilight Zone when Nicholle broke down and said she was feeling bad about the way she was treating Daonte and then - !!! - refused to take money from him!

The only thing that brought me back to reality was that she wants a threesome relationship.

That was a moment!  Especially since the whole car ride she was eyeing Daontes gold necklace. Was it real gold?  

Nicole is a real little dumb bunny. I hope she gets her hearts desire…new boobs!

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Poor Ray. Maybe momma is no pushover like her daughter!  She’s got a bit of class and money!  Could afford Ray a beautiful life. 

Ray is no sperm donor?   We’ll then what is he?

If he played his cards right he would offer up his sperm and he could stay home and babysit while momma and grandma make the bucks to support Rays chosen lifestyle of plenty!

No restitution due from a non working gigelo!

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Since nothing really happened, I found myself pondering Shawn's facial hair. I never really paid attention to it, mostly because I avoid looking at his face if possible, but what is the actual point of that stubble on his upper lip? Is that his best effort at a mustache, or does he deliberately shave most of it off? Why? I could understand if he had a normal 'full stubble' look, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone leave stubble in just this area. Loathsome as he is, he'd look marginally better without it. Sara, OTOH, looked better with her natural hair color, eyelashes and eyebrows. She could use some concealer for those zits, though.

I realize it's just an effort to look like something's happening, but the Brit/Marce story makes no sense. Apparently Robert is being evicted anyway, so he probably doesn't have the money to pay to put the furniture in storage. Brit and crew can just come back when the sheriff throws everything out on the curb. 

I was lol'ing at Lacey's 'workout' clothing, and was disappointed we didn't get to see her boobs flailing around while she worked a brisk treadmill. Chane, give up on your attempts to hide your encroaching hair loss with complicated comb-overs. Lacey (if she takes you back) can hook you up with her weave expert-DO NOT GO to whoever did Lisa's!!!

I was kind of impressed that Lisa's pastor (who clearly had never seen her before) detected the 'rotten' foundation of her and Stan's relationship. Stan is a bulldog about getting the Sharp bucks, though-he's sticking around til the bitter end.

Ray is barely able to stay awake while he's on camera, not sure how Brittney expects him to service her egg. I guess she thinks Mama will come around once Brit is knocked up?

Daonte is not tempted by the offer of a threesome (not if it includes that handsome gentleman Tia), but he's definitely falling for Nicole, Sr.'s  clumsy 'no, I won't take your money' con. Still waiting to see how he ends up in that red tux on the side of the road with patrol cars' flashing lights, though!

 

 

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Nicolle has lost a tremendous amount of weight.  I wonder what is her drug of choice.  In the meantime, Daonte appears to have gain weight.  He looks good.  

Brittany is treating Ray like a sperm donor.  I am glad he had the good sense to tell her he isn't ready to be a father.  Brittany has a good job and a nice home.  I am having a hard time understanding why she couldn't meet a nice gentleman in her area.  

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3 hours ago, Adeejay said:

Nicolle has lost a tremendous amount of weight.  I wonder what is her drug of choice.  In the meantime, Daonte appears to have gain weight.  He looks good.  

Brittany is treating Ray like a sperm donor.  I am glad he had the good sense to tell her he isn't ready to be a father.  Brittany has a good job and a nice home.  I am having a hard time understanding why she couldn't meet a nice gentleman in her area.  

Certain women are turned on by “bad boys” and would find an accountant boring.  By the time they see the error of their ways it is often too late.  It’s kind of the opposite with Daonte.  He dates skanks when he should be dating a nurse or teacher.  A welder is a good job.

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Sara seemed SO wise when she said that she needed to focus on learning how to be a mother and she just didn't have room for Shawn. Then she agrees to meet him. I hope she's only doing it to get more episodes for Sharp Entertainment money. I didn't even care that she was working him for a tanning session and breakfast because Shawn deserves to have his bone marrow stolen from him for being so entitled and, yet, completely worthless to humankind. 

Dare I say, Lacey looks really good?! She snapped back really well after the baby and her face looks less plastic. For as much as she looks better Shane looks awful with that hair. 

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1. Brittney/Marcelino - something stinks about their story and I think its entirely possible that they have embezzled some or all of those donations and this Robert guy is just a very convenient drug addicted scapegoat for her to hide behind. 

She directly solicits donations

Brittney says that this Robert guy is somehow the only person with access to the 80k, which he, ostensibly, wiped out on some very choice drug binges and low rent furniture.  So, all the moneys gone, right?  But in the next breath, they are talking about how they need all this furniture so they can open the sober house at another location.  But with what money?  Didn't Robert steal it all?  Isn't he the only one with access to the account?

They just bought a new house and she has a Mercedes.  Besides Marcelino's army/marine payout, they do not have a steady source of income.  So, I imagine they aren't prime borrowers for a house or a car.  

Brittney and Marcelino need to make that home/car payment every month and they both have shaky business ventures.  Marcelino is playing around in cryptocurrency which is super volatile. And you just know Marcelino is the type who imagines he knows more than he does and is getting absolutely hosed.  

Brittney maybe does tattooing?  Real estate agents can make a lot of money, but there is also a TON of competition out there in the suburban market.  An ex-felon, even one of TV seems unlikely to be the first choice for anyone.  Real estate is great, but its not a steady check.  

So, I could totally see a situation where they "borrowed" a few bucks from the 80k just to cover some payments and haven't gotten around to paying it back.  They saw Robert as a scapegoat and a story line.  

What he had going on there didn't look like a flophouse.  It looked messy.  And Robert didn't look high, he wasn't nodding out and HE called the police, so I question Brittney's self serving characterization of him as an active drug addict. The only other person we've seen on camera calling him out is her friend/business associate.  

Also, why the hell were they taking people's dry cleaning?

 

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9 hours ago, Adeejay said:

 Brittany is treating Ray like a sperm donor.  I am glad he had the good sense to tell her he isn't ready to be a father.  Brittany has a good job and a nice home.  I am having a hard time understanding why she couldn't meet a nice gentleman in her area.  

Brittney wants someone who looks like Ray and is nice.  I don't know what her big secret is, but she has gained A LOT of weight from the photos she has on the show.  She may not think that she can attract a man in the free world with a good job who looks like Ray and is as chilled and willing to wear those screenprinted tees.  

Brittney also wants to move very, very, very fast, and that may put a lot of guys off.  

I feel like her mom and dad may overestimate what she brings to the table.  

I don't see why they couldn't at least say hello to him and I think Brittney should have done a trail run before she actually had Ray get in the car so he could be rejected.  Like just go over there one day to visit by herself, tell them ray is in the car and see what reaction she got. 

I kinda wonder how they would feel if Brittney met some guy who was wealthy, came from money and was some investment banker.  How would they feel if that guys family decided that they wouldn't even lay eyes on Brittney until she could bring an equal amount of money to the table?

6 hours ago, Lambie said:

Sara seemed SO wise when she said that she needed to focus on learning how to be a mother and she just didn't have room for Shawn. Then she agrees to meet him. I hope she's only doing it to get more episodes for Sharp Entertainment money. I didn't even care that she was working him for a tanning session and breakfast because Shawn deserves to have his bone marrow stolen from him for being so entitled and, yet, completely worthless to humankind. 

Dare I say, Lacey looks really good?! She snapped back really well after the baby and her face looks less plastic. For as much as she looks better Shane looks awful with that hair. 

IMO, she met Shawn so she could string him along for more money while she gets her life on track.  As with you, I am totally fine with it.  "I moved here for you" is become "I have 50,000 on the line" version 2.0

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14 hours ago, sempervivum said:

Since nothing really happened, I found myself pondering Shawn's facial hair. I never really paid attention to it, mostly because I avoid looking at his face if possible, but what is the actual point of that stubble on his upper lip? Is that his best effort at a mustache, or does he deliberately shave most of it off? Why? I could understand if he had a normal 'full stubble' look, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone leave stubble in just this area. Loathsome as he is, he'd look marginally better without it. Sara, OTOH, looked better with her natural hair color, eyelashes and eyebrows. She could use some concealer for those zits, though.

I realize it's just an effort to look like something's happening, but the Brit/Marce story makes no sense. Apparently Robert is being evicted anyway, so he probably doesn't have the money to pay to put the furniture in storage. Brit and crew can just come back when the sheriff throws everything out on the curb. 

I was lol'ing at Lacey's 'workout' clothing, and was disappointed we didn't get to see her boobs flailing around while she worked a brisk treadmill. Chane, give up on your attempts to hide your encroaching hair loss with complicated comb-overs. Lacey (if she takes you back) can hook you up with her weave expert-DO NOT GO to whoever did Lisa's!!!

I was kind of impressed that Lisa's pastor (who clearly had never seen her before) detected the 'rotten' foundation of her and Stan's relationship. Stan is a bulldog about getting the Sharp bucks, though-he's sticking around til the bitter end.

Ray is barely able to stay awake while he's on camera, not sure how Brittney expects him to service her egg. I guess she thinks Mama will come around once Brit is knocked up?

Daonte is not tempted by the offer of a threesome (not if it includes that handsome gentleman Tia), but he's definitely falling for Nicole, Sr.'s  clumsy 'no, I won't take your money' con. Still waiting to see how he ends up in that red tux on the side of the road with patrol cars' flashing lights, though!

 

 

Lacey's slow pedal to nowhere was a highlight of the show. 

I have no idea why Nichole or Daonte thinks that threesome would be hot and sexy.  Its sounds awful, and you might get COVID just walking into the room.  

Speaking of COVID, what the hell was Shawn doing with that mask?

Throw your tomatoes at me, but I felt sorry for Nichole and while I believe she wants some money, I also believed her when she said she enjoyed the normalcy of just getting a ride home from someone who is stable.  Is Tia planning on trying to get a job at some point?

 

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Brittany should start going to church, or hang around the cemetery. She'd find a nice widower in no time who'd be thrilled to have someone manage his life, make sure he has a clean shirt every day, organize the kitchen cabinets, and get a healthy meal on the table every night. Why she's set her sights on an ex-con who's been inside for what? 10 years? More? boggles my mind. Unless she wants to be his ministering angel and savior who keeps him on the straight and narrow. She did seem quite taken aback when her "bad boy" turned out to be from a close knit, middle class family. Heh. And seriously, he is so not into her. He looks at her like he owes her money, and kisses her like he's kissing a parrot. 

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Brittany did already tell Ray about her abusive ex, right? So that can't be her big secret. Since this is all about getting pregnant, I wonder if Brit had an abortion in the past. (Not that I think Ray would particularly care).

2 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

She did seem quite taken aback when her "bad boy" turned out to be from a close knit, middle class family

Which is why I wonder why Brit hasn't revealed this to her sceptical mom.

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18 hours ago, Adeejay said:

Brittany is treating Ray like a sperm donor.  I am glad he had the good sense to tell her he isn't ready to be a father.  Brittany has a good job and a nice home.  I am having a hard time understanding why she couldn't meet a nice gentleman in her area.  

Gentleman Tia is off the table, so that's one less possible beau for Brittany.

2 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Brittany should start going to church, or hang around the cemetery. She'd find a nice widower in no time who'd be thrilled to have someone manage his life, make sure he has a clean shirt every day, organize the kitchen cabinets, and get a healthy meal on the table every night. Why she's set her sights on an ex-con who's been inside for what? 10 years? More? boggles my mind. Unless she wants to be his ministering angel and savior who keeps him on the straight and narrow. She did seem quite taken aback when her "bad boy" turned out to be from a close knit, middle class family. Heh. And seriously, he is so not into her. He looks at her like he owes her money, and kisses her like he's kissing a parrot. 

I sense autocorrect provided kissing a parrot instead of kissing a parent.  But then again Ray does kiss Britney like he's afraid of getting near her beak, so it works.

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1 hour ago, PrincessPurrsALot said:

I sense autocorrect provided kissing a parrot instead of kissing a parent.  But then again Ray does kiss Britney like he's afraid of getting near her beak, so it works.

Oh no. No autocorrect. Parrot was the intention. 

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On 9/25/2021 at 9:55 PM, Elizzikra said:

I understand the spirit of getting back what you are owed but I question the practicality. They are trying to recover $80,000 of merchandise. Now I didn't get a clear look at the size of the house or the number of bedrooms but I'm guessing it's not super high class. So even if they carried out ever stick of furniture, every bit of electronics, the appliances, etc.  - I'm doubting you'd get to $80000 worth of stuff at retail price. Once they have it back the only thing for them to do is to sell it and they won't get anywhere near retail for it. So I think they are going to go through a lot of trouble to net, best case scenario, a couple thousand dollars. I'm not sure it's worth it.

This just reeks of manufactured drama to me, although it's plausible for a druggie story.  I was wondering if the furniture they "donated" was from their old house they moved out of, but there's no way it would be worth that much.  

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If what Britney wants is a baby, she could get an actual donor sperm. I bet it would be a lot cheaper than feeding, housing and otherwise supporting Ray while he spends his meager paycheck on restitution. Not to mention if she does marry this guy she will end up paying that restitution for him. His family is already angling for that, and I suspect if she does not help Ray pay he will be in the hole forever. Also, it's a lot less sad than trying to start a family with a dude who doesn't appear to be all that into her.

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Is Tia planning on trying to get a job at some point?

No. Britney said her grandparents have paid for everything her entire life. I don't think that Tia even knows what a job is, much less how to get and keep one.

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If what Britney wants is a baby, she could get actual donor sperm.

Nah - she wants the whole happy family gift pack - the ring, the wedding, the husband, the baby - and all the showers and gifts and accessories that go along with all of that. 

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3 hours ago, anoninrva said:

I was wondering if the furniture they "donated" was from their old house they moved out of, but there's no way it would be worth that much

The partner (Canaan?) said they had receipts for everything, which I assume means it was all recently purchased. What I saw all looked very cheap, and I would guess that the $80K was meant for more than just furnishings. This whole plot line doesn't stand up to any scrutiny.

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2 hours ago, sempervivum said:

The partner (Canaan?) said they had receipts for everything, which I assume means it was all recently purchased. What I saw all looked very cheap, and I would guess that the $80K was meant for more than just furnishings. This whole plot line doesn't stand up to any scrutiny.

I would imagine they have a lot of expenses - rent, furnishings, incorporation and other legal work, staff, ... I wouldn't think $80,000 would get them that far, actually...

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5 hours ago, Elizzikra said:

No. Britney said her grandparents have paid for everything her entire life. I don't think that Tia even knows what a job is, much less how to get and keep one.

Nah - she wants the whole happy family gift pack - the ring, the wedding, the husband, the baby - and all the showers and gifts and accessories that go along with all of that. 

Tia's also a heroin dealer from her chyron.  I suspect that may play a factor in Nichole Sr's sudden weight loss.

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On 10/3/2021 at 5:34 PM, Elizzikra said:

Nah - she wants the whole happy family gift pack - the ring, the wedding, the husband, the baby - and all the showers and gifts and accessories that go along with all of that. 

Oh yeh, Britney wants to drag Ray through Bed Bath & Beyond armed with a scanner to choose items to add to her bridal registry. And make no mistake, it will be HER registry. She will have final say on everything that is included.

However, Brit will still manage to get mad at Ray when he doesn't take an interest in what she is adding to the list...  Ray is so apathetic towards her it's actually quite amusing that she doesn't see it (or, chooses to ignore it.) 

 

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Britney is what, 30? There is no reason she needs to rush into having a baby with a man who doesn’t want a baby with her. Britney keeps saying something to the effect that she is running out of time to have a baby. I am guessing she is going to say she has some medical condition that can make it harder to have a baby if she waits too long, like until 32. 
 

The sober house guy allegedly stealing money but they want furniture story makes no sense. I am not sure why anyone with money would pay for a brand new sober house run by ex-cons with no experience in running anything. No way would insurance pay out to a place like that. 
 

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On 10/2/2021 at 3:41 PM, Adeejay said:

Nicolle has lost a tremendous amount of weight.  I wonder what is her drug of choice.  In the meantime, Daonte appears to have gain weight.  He looks good.  

Brittany is treating Ray like a sperm donor.  I am glad he had the good sense to tell her he isn't ready to be a father.  Brittany has a good job and a nice home.  I am having a hard time understanding why she couldn't meet a nice gentleman in her area.  

There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with her!

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