S01.E02: Honeymoon in Vegas

[LadyChaos]

Gil Grissom and Sara Sidle come to the aid of a former colleague who is implicated in tampering with evidence. Maxine and the rest of the CSI team work the murder of a couple slain on their wedding day, following the evidence to the salacious underbelly of the Las Vegas elite.

[LadyChaos]

I'm kinda miffed that we got an episode that felt like half of it was Grissom and Sara arguing.

I kind of like that it seems John and Allie trying to deny that they have an attraction. 

I also think its got to be killing Hodges, knowing that Grissom doesn't believe him. Grissom was the person he respected more than anyone for a long time.

Edited October 14, 2021 by LadyChaos

[Xeliou66]

This was a good episode and I’m surprisingly impressed with this show so far - I like the mix of new cases of the week plus the bigger arc of the Hodges situation.

The case of the week felt like classic CSI - digging into the sleazy underground scene of the Vegas elite. The identity of the killer was surprising and I liked the twists the case took, and I’m liking all of the new investigators pretty good.

It was nice seeing Grissom back in action and I bought everyone’s reaction to the situation, Grissom has always been all about following the evidence, while Sara has always been more personally involved, and while Hodges was never one of my favorites I do feel for him as I believe he had nothing to do with this.

Not enough of Brass, he was great in the scene he was in but I was hoping for more and I’m disappointed that he may not appear in anymore episodes, he’s always been one of my favorites. But it was nice seeing Grissom, Brass, Sara and Hodges in a scene together.

One thing I was wondering - who is the Sheriff? When the show went off, Conrad Ecklie was the sheriff and it seems like he would be an ally of Grissom and Sara given that he knew them for a long time, so I’m guessing there’s a new sheriff now. And I still wonder what happened to Greg, his absence is noteworthy as he was a big part of the show and he hasn’t even been mentioned.

[LadyChaos]

15 minutes ago, Xeliou66 said:

This was a good episode and I’m surprisingly impressed with this show so far - I like the mix of new cases of the week plus the bigger arc of the Hodges situation.

The case of the week felt like classic CSI - digging into the sleazy underground scene of the Vegas elite. The identity of the killer was surprising and I liked the twists the case took, and I’m liking all of the new investigators pretty good.

It was nice seeing Grissom back in action and I bought everyone’s reaction to the situation, Grissom has always been all about following the evidence, while Sara has always been more personally involved, and while Hodges was never one of my favorites I do feel for him as I believe he had nothing to do with this.

Not enough of Brass, he was great in the scene he was in but I was hoping for more and I’m disappointed that he may not appear in anymore episodes, he’s always been one of my favorites. But it was nice seeing Grissom, Brass, Sara and Hodges in a scene together.

One thing I was wondering - who is the Sheriff? When the show went off, Conrad Ecklie was the sheriff and it seems like he would be an ally of Grissom and Sara given that he knew them for a long time, so I’m guessing there’s a new sheriff now. And I still wonder what happened to Greg, his absence is noteworthy as he was a big part of the show and he hasn’t even been mentioned.

When Grissom and Sara were looking for signs of a brake in, and found none.....did you think: Maybe its the wife?  I did.

[threebluestars]

When the murdered husband's last name was said to be Kessler I was waiting for a Lady Heather appearance.

 

 

[Xeliou66]

37 minutes ago, LadyChaos said:

When Grissom and Sara were looking for signs of a brake in, and found none.....did you think: Maybe its the wife?  I did.

Yes I wonder about his wife as well. 

[milkyaqua]

I just find it hard to believe Hodges is married period.  His wife possibly being in on the frame-up seems a bit much considering she's pregnant but nothing's impossible.  Also not surprised about Grissom's response and yes, it's definitely got to be killing Hodges.

Still not into the John/Allie thing.  What happened to the other CSI tech?

Liked the case of the week.

[eXiled]

As soon as I saw the shooter standing over the woman being shot, I thought about how monstrously large the boot looked. Later, when several shoe prints were lifted for evidence I figured the shooter was a smaller man or a woman.

[LadyChaos]

16 hours ago, threebluestars said:

When the murdered husband's last name was said to be Kessler I was waiting for a Lady Heather appearance.

 

 

My first thought was: Oh thank god its a different spelling...

[Daff]

I doubt it was the wife. If she took the trouble to turn his outlook on life away from the depressing, dark job he had, it doesn’t make sense she’d send him right back there. Maybe there’s a reason no one is mentioning Greg. 

[preeya]

Didn't like Sara Sidle in the original and I still don't like her now. Still very pushy with a droning voice.

Edited October 15, 2021 by preeya

[mertensia]

This held my attention. 

How did Hodges even meet her?

[Grizzly]

I'm so glad they didn't show the dead dog. We have a German Shepherd. Gil was so giddy about that DIY tool Maxine had. I was wondering if evidence obtained by it is admissible? Allie had too much makeup on her face, made it a different tone than the rest of her skin.

I love this show so much. Didn't realize how much I missed it. Like the little shout outs to Catherine and Doc. It would be nice to hear about Greg.

[GiandujaPie]

15 hours ago, mertensia said:

This held my attention. 

How did Hodges even meet her?

Wasn't Hodges engaged or married to a hot Italian woman in the last season of CSI? I don't remember what happened to that relationship though. I know Hodges was insecure and I remember them having a discussion about it but I can't remember if they broke up. And he and Morgan became best buds so why isn't she here to provide support? I get that they have limitations based on actor availability but still some more throwaway lines explaining these would be a treat to long-time viewers. 

Also, when Grissom was remarking to Sara that they don't actually know much about Hodges, including if he had family, I remembered that we did know that Hodges had a mother played by Jaclyn Smith! LOL

[illdoc]

2 hours ago, GiandujaPie said:

when Grissom was remarking to Sara that they don't actually know much about Hodges, including if he had family, I remembered that we did know that Hodges had a mother played by Jaclyn Smith!

But I think she showed up after Gil left. Of course, Hodges had spoken about his mother many times before we saw her. 

[Lovecat]

My leading theory is that Greg is the one setting up Hodges.

[LadyChaos]

59 minutes ago, Lovecat said:

My leading theory is that Greg is the one setting up Hodges.

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!!

🤣

[SVNBob]

4 hours ago, Lovecat said:

My leading theory is that Greg is the one setting up Hodges.

Greg wouldn't want Brass killed or hurt though.  Nor any innocents like the female officer that got abducted.  And definitely not the dog.

[lianau]

My working theory is that the wife is related to one of the people Hodges helped put away and the only way to get the relative out of prison is to destroy the case against him via framing Hodges . 

[LadyChaos]

1 hour ago, lianau said:

My working theory is that the wife is related to one of the people Hodges helped put away and the only way to get the relative out of prison is to destroy the case against him via framing Hodges . 

I've thought about it....but then, there would be no need to kill the neighbors dog then....unless that was a setup to get Sara and Grissom involved.

[roctavia]

I can't decide if I want this to be someone we know/have heard of/related to an old case we saw... or if it would be better if they tie it back to a past case, but maybe not one that we know anything about? Then they have more freedom to make it interesting and less chance for plot holes... plus I don't remember enough for some of the call backs :P 

It's fun seeing Grissom back and following the evidence... I almost forgot about the bug stuff, but right back into it with the blowflies and the spiders....  Looking forward to more episodes.

[lh25]

On 10/13/2021 at 8:04 PM, LadyChaos said:

I also think its got to be killing Hodges, knowing that Grissom doesn't believe him.

I took it more as Grissom doesn't believe him, but also doesn't not believe him if that makes sense.  He was more waiting to see where the evidence took them.

[WearyTraveler]

2 hours ago, lh25 said:

I took it more as Grissom doesn't believe him, but also doesn't not believe him if that makes sense.  He was more waiting to see where the evidence took them.

Makes perfect sense. It's Schroedinger's Grissom!!!

[LadyChaos]

2 hours ago, lh25 said:

I took it more as Grissom doesn't believe him, but also doesn't not believe him if that makes sense.  He was more waiting to see where the evidence took them.

I agree, but to hodges...its still got to hurt.

[Lovecat]

23 hours ago, LadyChaos said:

YOU TAKE THAT BACK!!!!

🤣

 

20 hours ago, SVNBob said:

Greg wouldn't want Brass killed or hurt though.  Nor any innocents like the female officer that got abducted.  And definitely not the dog.

I say that with my tongue mostly in my cheek…but having seen the “Zack Addy is the Gormagon’s apprentice” plot on Bones, I know anything is possible.

Edited October 17, 2021 by Lovecat

[Daff]

On 10/15/2021 at 10:36 PM, Lovecat said:

My leading theory is that Greg is the one setting up Hodges.

That’s what I was hinting at above. Of all the originals, he’s the most unlikely candidate-the eager little pup!

Edit: Just went looking, and found an article that seems to imply that he won’t show up in this newer show. It’s called “10 Things You Didn’t Know About Eric S-“ and can be found on tvovermind (dot com). Apparently the article appeared only 7 hours ago. 

Edited October 17, 2021 by Daff

[lianau]

14 hours ago, lh25 said:

I took it more as Grissom doesn't believe him, but also doesn't not believe him if that makes sense.  He was more waiting to see where the evidence took them.

And he also isn't judging Hodges , he's stating facts but of course that's not how Hodges (or Sara ) see it . 

[lh25]

17 hours ago, WearyTraveler said:

Makes perfect sense. It's Schroedinger's Grissom!!!

I can't believe I missed that joke!  Hubby and I are Big Bang Theory fans, so we usually find those.  And yes, that's where I learned about Schroedinger...

 

17 hours ago, LadyChaos said:

I agree, but to hodges...its still got to hurt.

Totally agree with that.

Edited October 17, 2021 by lh25
missed word

[LadyChaos]

13 hours ago, Lovecat said:

 

I say that with my tongue mostly in my cheek…but having seen the “Zack Addy is the Gormagon’s apprentice” plot on Bones, I know anything is possible.

Especially when it comes out years later, Zack didn't kill anyone.

[LadyChaos]

Just rewatched the episode....and I do feel better about the arguing now...and still think the 'you put the gloves back where I like them' scene if hilarious.