Scream Franchise

[Spartan Girl]

Just rented it tonight, and it was okay. Better than 3 not as good as 1,2 or 4.

The minute we introduced to the new kids, I knew they were all going to die. The just reminded me of the Friday the 13th characters: most of them suck and they all get killed off quickly, except for Final Girl. Surprised that Mindy lived though, so yay?

I did like that Tara made it through the opening and lived to be a Final Girl instead of getting killed off like all the others. That was refreshing.

Dewey was right, never EVER trust the love interests. I knew all that, but was STILL shocked Jack was one of the killers. I never learn…

And say what you want about the killers’ reveal/motives being lame, but toxic fandom (along with revenge) was what set all the Woodsboro motives in motion: Billy and Stu were toxic horror fans, just different kinds.

Crushed that Dewey was the one that died. Saw it coming right from the trailer but still devastating. And the Gale breakup explanation was handled fairly well. Loved that Gale referred to him as her best friend and was going to write her next book about him.

And hey, Sid finally found a good guy and had a family. She deserves to be happy.

[Racj82]

1 hour ago, Spartan Girl said:

Just rented it tonight, and it was okay. Better than 3 not as good as 1,2 or 4.

The minute we introduced to the new kids, I knew they were all going to die. The just reminded me of the Friday the 13th characters: most of them suck and they all get killed off quickly, except for Final Girl. Surprised that Mindy lived though, so yay?

I did like that Tara made it through the opening and lived to be a Final Girl instead of getting killed off like all the others. That was refreshing.

Dewey was right, never EVER trust the love interests. I knew all that, but was STILL shocked Jack was one of the killers. I never learn…

And say what you want about the killers’ reveal/motives being lame, but toxic fandom (along with revenge) was what set all the Woodsboro motives in motion: Billy and Stu were toxic horror fans, just different kinds.

Crushed that Dewey was the one that died. Saw it coming right from the trailer but still devastating. And the Gale breakup explanation was handled fairly well. Loved that Gale referred to him as her best friend and was going to write her next book about him.

And hey, Sid finally found a good guy and had a family. She deserves to be happy.

They didn't all die. Four of them lived. More than other new characters in the franchise have. 

The assumption by many is that Sydney's man is Scream 3 Mark. Dempsey. Why name the character Mark otherwise?

[KaveDweller]

I finally got a chance to see the new one. I liked it. It wasn't as good as the original, but still entertained me. I did think it was much more graphic than the others in terms of violence. I know they are all slasher movies, but there just seemed to be more blood and lingering shots on knives stabbing people.

I had thought I had (accidentally) read a spoiler about Sydney dying, so I was happy she survived. I was disappointed about Dewey, but I guess one of the originals had to die. 

Notice how Sydney's children are "the girls." That means in 10 years we can have a movie where one of them is the main character.

I liked that the girl from the opening didn't die, and I liked the kids playing Randy's niece and nephew. I also liked Richie up until when he was revealed as the killer. The other new cast members didn't stand out to me.

The ages don't seem to line up though. Sam was Billy's daughter, but he died in the first movie, 1996. So if she was born in 1997, she'd be at least 24 by now. But they also said she was five years older than her sister, who seemed to be in high school? 

I also kept thinking their mother or the mother's ex-husband was going to be important, since they would have been at school with Sydney, Billy, and Stu. The ex-husband would have been perfect as one of the killers, as he would have felt wronged by Billy. Plus, he let Tara survive. That would have been a better twist than the killers just being movie fans. 

No way all those teenagers wouldn't have known which house in town was the murder house.

[BetterButter]

 

[Spartan Girl]

Okay, snagging the actual Ghostface voice actor for the Honest Trailer is awesome.

[methodwriter85]

On 3/7/2022 at 9:52 PM, KaveDweller said:

Notice how Sydney's children are "the girls." That means in 10 years we can have a movie where one of them is the main character.

Yeah, I immediately picked up on that too.

Sydney was also pushing a stroller so there's probably at least 3 kids. I don't think Sydney was a mom during Scream 4 so I think all of her kids were born after 2011.

On 3/7/2022 at 9:52 PM, KaveDweller said:

The ages don't seem to line up though. Sam was Billy's daughter, but he died in the first movie, 1996. So if she was born in 1997, she'd be at least 24 by now. But they also said she was five years older than her sister, who seemed to be in high school? 

They almost line up but not quite. That was annoying. If we say this takes place in 2021, Tara could have been born in 2003 and Sam could have been born in 1998, which almost lines up but not quite. I think the problem is that they intended on filming this movie earlier than they did but there were filming delays and because this wasn't a glaringly bad flaw, they just let it go.

[SallyAlbright]

I went to school with Jack Quaid. It's still funny to see him on my screen! 

Thought this was just okay, perhaps my expectations were too high as I read a lot of great reviews and rewatched 1-4 in anticipation. Agree with a lot of you in this thread that Melissa Barerra was a weak link in the cast, which is problematic. I also found it kind of silly that so many of them were related to previous characters - I'd rather they just stood on their own or if they had to do it, only had one of them be related. The CGI Billy Loomis was just cheesy and took me out of the scenes trying to figure out how they did it and why he looked so weird. It was like a wax figure version of Skeet Ulrich (who has aged beautifully, by the way). 

I'll always watch Scream, and it was still fun, but a lot of the dialogue felt forced to me unlike Williamson's brilliant and genuinely clever first script. 

[HeShallBMySquishy]

Scream was also released the same day as Beavis and Butt-Head Do America; I remember a quote from Wes saying that they (the producers) went on Christmas holidays thinking that "Beavis and Butt-Head kicked our butts, and when we came back, Scream was all anyone was talking about."

There is also the fact that Titanic and Tomorrow Never Dies were both scheduled for December 12; both movies (including a James Bond movie!) ended up shifting their release dates to one week later to make way for the expected juggernaut that was Scream 2.

I do kind of feel sorry for Ehren Kruger for Scream 3, mainly due to the fact that he was brought in from some other movie (not too sure what that was) to flesh out Kevin Williamson's one-page treatment. And then Kruger wasn't even able to finish that, as the Weinsteins pulled him off Scream 3 and placed him on Reindeer Games. So that means two movies released in the same month where Kruger was listed as the sole screenwriter, despite him not writing either particular screenplay (and thus blamed for all the script problems).

Also, it is Sidney-with-an-I, and Courteney-with-an-extra-E. I don't know how people can claim to be Scream fans and still NOT know the proper spelling of Sidney Prescott, and still NOT know that Courteney spells her name with another E. I mean, Jesus Christ, that is beyond laziness, and just downright disrespectful at this point.

I'm not sure if there's something wrong with me, but 

Spoiler

Jack Quaid as the psychotic killer definitely did something for me.

I don't know if it was the maniacal grin and the crazy eyes, but he certainly did it for me.

I knew there wouldn't be any male nudity, but I was grateful for Dylan Minnette lathering up in the shower. I've thought that boy was incredibly good-looking for awhile now (but not enough to watch 13 Reasons Why; I've lost several family members to suicide, so watching a show based on suicide was just not appealing, no matter how cute the boys on that show were), so him getting the Janet-Leigh-in-Psycho shower scene was worth it.

I was never one who thought Dewey was particularly sexy, but damn, David Arquette brought it with his grizzled salt-and-pepper weariness. Beyond that though, his broken relationship with Dewey and Gale was terrifically-played. Who knew Dewey would become so sexy as he aged?

I actually didn't mind the girl who played Sam, and it was of course great to see Courteney and (48-year-old) Neve (the lady looks great!) doing their thing. I was glad to see that Mason survived; he would have been that sexy hunk I crushed on in high school (although my Canadian high school was more ice hockey than football). Hoyever, I thought Mindy was rather obnoxious: a mean girl masquerading as a Cool Girl archetype. Did she even like her "friends"? She sure as shit didn't act like she did.

But still, irritating characters aside, Scream 5 was still a fun ride.

Edited March 17, 2022 by HeShallBMySquishy

[BetterButter]

 

[merylinkid]

I think I have aged out of the Scream Franchise.  All I felt at the end was sad that Dewey died.

 

And dear heaven what has Courteney Cox done to her face?

[methodwriter85]

On 3/17/2022 at 5:53 PM, HeShallBMySquishy said:

I was glad to see that Mason survived; he would have been that sexy hunk I crushed on in high school (although my Canadian high school was more ice hockey than football). Hoyever, I thought Mindy was rather obnoxious: a mean girl masquerading as a Cool Girl archetype. Did she even like her "friends"? She sure as shit didn't act like she did.

I kept getting the nagging feeling that we were supposed to immediately like Mindy because 1.) she's a legacy character and 2.) she's a black lesbian so YAY queer POC representation. I never warmed up to her and she never seemed to actually care about her friends, so why would I root for her? I get that she was supposed to be NuRandy but Randy, for all of his faults, actually cared about his friends and had a heart. You could just see it at the end of Scream where he's terrified after finding Tatum's body and realizing Stu did it. She did seem moved when she saw that Mason had survived but that was the only hint of humanity I actually saw in Mindy.

Mason wasn't originally supposed to survive but the makers apparently changed their minds.

On 3/11/2022 at 9:07 PM, SallyAlbright said:

The CGI Billy Loomis was just cheesy and took me out of the scenes trying to figure out how they did it and why he looked so weird. It was like a wax figure version of Skeet Ulrich (who has aged beautifully, by the way). 

I really hated it. The franchise has always been about being haunted by the ghosts of the past, but making it literal was just too much.

[starri]

11 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

Mason wasn't originally supposed to survive but the makers apparently changed their minds.

Just like with Dewey.

I enjoyed it a lot.  As good as the first two?  No.  But still better than 3 and about even with 4.

I was honestly okay with Dewey dying, just because I think it would have felt very cheap if all of them survived again.  I only wish that Gale and he would have had maybe one more scene of just the two of them together.

[SallyAlbright]

On 3/19/2022 at 1:30 AM, BetterButter said:

 

Will absolutely watch, but can Melissa Barerra somehow not be in it? I'm sure she's a lovely person, but her performance was standout-level bad even for a teen horror movie. My husband kept saying "what is she trying to be? Mad? Sad? Scared? I'm getting nothing!"

I would be much more excited if Jenna Ortega was the lead. 

[cmahorror]

I really liked this film - I would put it third for me behind the original and Scream 4. 

Interesting tidbit I just found out - when Jack is investigating Woodsboro, one of the survivor videos he watched was for Kirby from Scream 4. I am thrilled because I think it was a big mistake to kill off the character. I would totally love to see her team up with Sidney and Gale for the next film.

One question, is the Scream franchise going to be like Star Wars franchise and kill off one of the original three in each of the next films? Is Gale going to be killed in the next film followed by Sydney in another one?

[methodwriter85]

Now that the show has established Sidney has kids, I would assume she'll sacrifice herself for them. 

[Bastet]

I finally had a chance to watch the latest one, and I liked it as a transition piece.  I rolled my eyes at a few things (e.g. the killer chick who'd been a big fireball on the floor coming back barely singed and the most deserted hospital since Halloween II), but I liked a lot of the allusions to the original.  Once I accept - which I knew was the case going in - the OGs are not the focus in the same way, I think they used them very well.  Including killing off Dewey, as sad as that was.

The weak link was the junior cast, in that most of them are fine but nothing special.  I'd never seen Jack Quaid in anything (and didn't realize that's who he was until the end credits), but I thought he was great.  I knew immediately he was the killer, but just based on the rules, not any weakness in his performance.  I wasn't sure who the second killer was, skipping around with my guesses, and never really honed in on Amber, probably because the actor playing her was terrible.  I've seen complaints about the actor playing Sam, and I agree she's not charismatic enough to center (and the actor playing Mindy had much greater presence), but at least she was fine, not distractingly bad.

Another thing I rolled my eyes at was how much more violent this was than the previous entries; everyone got stabbed eleventy times with vicious force.  I mean, it's a slasher film, so fine, but it was an Okay, get on with it thing for me.  Another difference was how many murders took place in daylight and/or out in the open.  The sheriff's was ridiculous on that front, and also that she'd called for the whole cavalry to converge on her house, and there still wasn't a single squad car in the distance by the time her kid got killed.  Woodsboro isn't that big!

Oh, and here's a little thing that irrationally bugged me: This takes place in CA, where the mayonnaise brand is Best Foods, not Hellmann's (the Rockies are the dividing line).  But the mayo in the basement fridge was Hellman's.

But, in general, I thought it was a solid entry in the franchise.  I always love Sidney and Gale working together, and I laughed out loud at them casually deciding who was going to kill Amber.  The OGs were the best part, so my enjoyment of future installments will hinge on how they're used.  But this one worked for me.

[methodwriter85]

On 4/2/2022 at 4:24 PM, Bastet said:

Another thing I rolled my eyes at was how much more violent this was than the previous entries; everyone got stabbed eleventy times with vicious force.  I mean, it's a slasher film, so fine, but it was an Okay, get on with it thing for me.  Another difference was how many murders took place in daylight and/or out in the open.  The sheriff's was ridiculous on that front, and also that she'd called for the whole cavalry to converge on her house, and there still wasn't a single squad car in the distance by the time her kid got killed.  Woodsboro isn't that big!

Scream 3 was directly affected by the Columbine High School Shooting. They were in production when it happened, and they were under orders by the studio to tone down the violence. By Scream 4, you didn't see much blood at all because it felt like they were taking inspiration more from psychological horror as opposed to slasher films, because at that time, the zeitgeist for horror had moved over to that lane. Think "Paranormal Activity" or "The Ring." This current Scream even kind of references that in a way, because Jenna Ortega isn't that familiar with straight up slasher films- she mentions stuff like "Get Out" or "Hereditary." 

The other thing is this was franchise was taken over by the guys who did "Ready or Not"....which was bloody. Seriously, if you think this was bloody, just watch "Ready or Not." 

[ShadowHunter]

On 3/25/2022 at 8:17 AM, starri said:

Just like with Dewey.

I enjoyed it a lot.  As good as the first two?  No.  But still better than 3 and about even with 4.

I was honestly okay with Dewey dying, just because I think it would have felt very cheap if all of them survived again.  I only wish that Gale and he would have had maybe one more scene of just the two of them together.

I feel the same way. Maybe Part 4 is a bit better. Yes, while sad I am glad they finally killed off one of the major characters. At least Randy is not the only one that died.  I do think this series needs a shot in the arm though. I actually think one of the killers in Scream 6 should survive and carry on to the next movie. It would be something different.

[MagnusHex]

Scream 5 Spoiler-free Review

There's honestly nothing left to mine out of this franchise. Just let it die, people!

That was my thought by the time the film reached the "big reveal." It was so lame and embodied the exact kind of self-aware meta crap that I came to hate over the past few years.

Don't get me wrong, it was fun when Wes Craven and Kevin Williamson pulled the meta in the first two Scream, but some time around the last five years or so, Hollywood seems to be even more derivative than ever. There's this trend of referencing films from decades ago and trying to outdo them by showing how much more clever the writers are. It's the latest in Hollywood engineering called the "Requel." Beyond the obvious titles mentioned in Scream 5, there's also Mad Max: Fury Road, X-Men: First Class, Jumanji, Jurassic World, Star Trek 2009, Superman Returns. Requels (not really a sequel but also not really a reboot) are not new, but they are effective ways of rebooting a movie but also adding emotional layers that would hook the fans of the original.

When done well in a celebratory way that actually has something meaningful or emotional to say about the original franchise and the original characters, you could maybe get a Fury Road, or better, Creed. But when there's nothing else to say, when executives want to delay the death of this million-dollar golden goose, writers become desperate enough to stretch the characters' logic into absurdist territory. Think back to Jurassic World, how the new management pushed for more extreme and unsafe methods just for the "wow" factor because apparently, in bizarro world, dinosaurs no longer fascinate children anymore. It's the same kind of stupid logic that plagues the end of this movie.

And that's a damn shame because I quite liked a couple of things before that finale. It's still all very derivative, and while I like the new little twists they've added, it feels like one of those cases where the movie thinks it's more clever than it really is. There's definitely a lot of suspense for both newcomers and veterans because both the killers and the victims are smarter this time in this technological, progressive age. That cleverness of the characters is what's ultimately preventing this film from being a total snooze. Unfortunately, there's also a few dumb moments of convenient contrivance that serve to push the plot forward (a big problem these films still seem to have trouble subverting is the cops arriving on time).

But I think that's the problem with the Scream franchise: the original was too clever for its own good. When the appeal of the entire franchise is how much more clever the follow-up film could get, there comes a point when you just hit the ceiling and there's no longer any more ways to reinvent the story. Sidney being a slasher movie survivor working through PTSD was a pretty refreshing idea that made me love Scream 2. It added a fresh layer of storytelling that we've rarely seen before in slasher films (even Jamie Lee made a go at it with the PTSD angle in H20: 20 Years Later, just a year after Scream 2's release). But the problem was, after Scream 2, there isn't any more fresh storytelling left. Nothing else that was said after felt emotionally provocative nor intellectually engaging. In spite of Scream 5 citing Babadook's "elevated horror" and thematic underpinnings, the film just felt muddled from its attempts at impressing the audience with new tricks. Had it spent more time focusing on Sam's far more interesting plot point, it wouldn't have felt like a familiar and mediocre take on a franchise that's been done better.

And Sam's whole deal would've definitely made this film far more innovative, therefore more successful in rejuvenating the franchise. I also like how they ultimately dealt with her condition in a tasteful way too instead of just going for the obvious and lazy. But there's still a missed opportunity here in not utilizing Sam's dark secret enough, probably because they wanted to reserve that for the next few films (and yes, there is going to be a Scream 6, good lord). I do like that the studio is at least trying to do something pretty different with Sam's character, almost hearkening back to a similar kind of effort Kevin Williamson tried with Sidney's character in Scream 2. It's sloppy and unpolished compared to what Kevin did, but I still appreciate the effort to take the film into a more bold and ambitious territory.

One last thing I want to point out is that the studio execs knew what they were doing when they brought Jack Quaid in. If you've seen The Boys, you'll understand why casting Jack is kinda brilliant. I like him so much that I could almost forgive all the lame lines he's forced to spurt out. He totally sold me on that earnest and awkward boyfriend that could totally exist in real life.

6/10

Edited April 5, 2022 by MagnusHex

[LaylaGirl]

On 4/5/2022 at 12:29 PM, MagnusHex said:

One last thing I want to point out is that the studio execs knew what they were doing when they brought Jack Quaid in. If you've seen The Boys, you'll understand why casting Jack is kinda brilliant. I like him so much that I could almost forgive all the lame lines he's forced to spurt out. He totally sold me on that earnest and awkward boyfriend that could totally exist in real life.

I spent the whole moving feeling like I had seen the actor who played Ritchie somewhere, but couldn't remember where I had seen him, and I didn't know his name until the credits. When I saw Quaid I knew why he seemed so familiar - he has the same lopsided grin as his Dad. I also will be looking for some of his other work as he totally sold me on the geeky boyfriend character.

[methodwriter85]

23 hours ago, LaylaGirl said:

When I saw Quaid I knew why he seemed so familiar - he has the same lopsided grin as his Dad.

I've always thought Jack looked like Michael Shannon with a dash of Joel McHale, but you're right about the grin.

It's weird because I don't think he looks that much like his mother, but he also doesn't look that much like his dad, save for his grin.

[Anela]

https://screenrant.com/scream-6-hayden-panettiere-kirby-return-confirmed/

Scream 6: Hayden Panettiere To Reprise Scream 4 Kirby Role

[Spartan Girl]

44 minutes ago, Anela said:

https://screenrant.com/scream-6-hayden-panettiere-kirby-return-confirmed/

Scream 6: Hayden Panettiere To Reprise Scream 4 Kirby Role

Kirby lives! Hooray!

[Bastet]

I'm down with this; I enjoyed Kirby.  I just hope they do a good job of integrating past with present.  I thought the way they used the OGs in part five saved what would have otherwise been a pretty weak entry, so if part six does the same with the remaining OGs and this second-generation character it could be another nice bridge. 

[BetterButter]

Dermot Mulroney Joins Latest ‘Scream’ Horror Movie

[dmeets]

Well this is some bullshit; Neve Campbell not returning over salary dispute

Good for her though, telling the studio to shove it. I hope they don't kill her off, there can be other reasonable explanations for her not being around.

Edited June 6, 2022 by dmeets

[Spartan Girl]

6 hours ago, dmeets said:

Well this is some bullshit; Neve Campbell not returning over salary dispute

Good for her though, telling the studio to shove it. I hope they don't kill her off, there can be other reasonable explanations for her not being around.

Yeah, let Sydney be happy, she deserves it.

[Bastet]

Good grief, unless she suddenly asked for $10million, pay the woman!

[KaveDweller]

On 6/6/2022 at 2:20 PM, dmeets said:

Well this is some bullshit; Neve Campbell not returning over salary dispute

Good for her though, telling the studio to shove it. I hope they don't kill her off, there can be other reasonable explanations for her not being around.

Easy explanation is she hears there's another Ghostface and gets on the first plane out of the country. 

Sucks that they wouldn't pay her what she's asking. I can't imagine it is unreasonable considering her importance to the franchise.

[BetterButter]

‘Mission: Impossible’s Henry Czerny Joins Next Scream Pic For Spyglass And Paramount

[methodwriter85]

On 6/7/2022 at 6:51 PM, KaveDweller said:

Easy explanation is she hears there's another Ghostface and gets on the first plane out of the country. 

Sucks that they wouldn't pay her what she's asking. I can't imagine it is unreasonable considering her importance to the franchise.

Or she and her family moved to China where her husband is running security world's tallest skyscraper and she can't make it out there. Air travel isn't a breeze these days.

Honestly, I kind of felt like they really did pass the baton in 5 so we'll see what happens. I'm good with Sydney sitting this one out.

Edited June 24, 2022 by methodwriter85

[TheOtherOne]

On 3/17/2022 at 5:53 PM, HeShallBMySquishy said:

I do kind of feel sorry for Ehren Kruger for Scream 3, mainly due to the fact that he was brought in from some other movie (not too sure what that was) to flesh out Kevin Williamson's one-page treatment. And then Kruger wasn't even able to finish that, as the Weinsteins pulled him off Scream 3 and placed him on Reindeer Games. So that means two movies released in the same month where Kruger was listed as the sole screenwriter, despite him not writing either particular screenplay (and thus blamed for all the script problems).

Probably not too relevant to this thread, but that isn't true about Reindeer Games. He wasn't placed on it; it was his spec script:

https://variety.com/1998/film/news/scribe-kruger-dimension-playing-reindeer-games-1117481501/

I remember reading it back in the day and the script was better than the movie, so he doesn't entirely deserve the blame, that's true.

More relevantly, I finally saw the latest Scream. It was okay, though I agree the main thing I felt was sad about Dewey. Kind of glad Sidney can escape the franchise (hopefully with her life), no matter how it came about. I hope Cox stays away if they try killing off Gale.

I admit I did find both villain deaths satisfying. But everything else about the movie was just...fine. Not terrible, but tired.

[BetterButter]

Exclusives ‘Scream 6’ – Samara Weaving and Tony Revolori Join the Cast!

[Shorty186]

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Edited October 7, 2022 by Shorty186
Double post

[Shorty186]

On 4/5/2022 at 1:29 PM, ShadowHunter said:

I do think this series needs a shot in the arm though. I actually think one of the killers in Scream 6 should survive and carry on to the next movie. It would be something different.

Maybe it was just me, but I felt like they were possibly setting up Sam to be a future killer? I mean, the way that she killed Ritchie was pretty similar-looking to how Ghostface killed Sheriff Judy. And she basically did what Billy was egging her on to do, give in to her baser nature and go Stabby McStabberson. She even did the Ghostface knife wipe after. It could be interesting to actually show a serial killer be made, the whole nature vs. nurture. I got the sense when she was asking Sidney if she was gonna be okay, she was worried about her sanity.

[BetterButter]

[BetterButter]

[Bastet]

"Only in theaters" means I'll wait until I can watch it at home. 

I'm still angry they wouldn't pay Neve Campbell.  I accept them transitioning to a new generation, but they were so spotty in the casting that I'm not interested in them as a whole the way I was the OGs.  I don't know what Sidney's role was slated to be - undoubtedly limited, as last time, and that's fine - but to remove the OG of OGs ticks me off.  I like when she and Gale team up.

[oliviabenson]

I forgot I have seen this movie haha. Now that I remember I liked it!

[Anela]

I'm halfway through the movie "Sick" and it's like Scream: Pandemic style.

[BetterButter]

 

[KaveDweller]

Ghostface in NYC is kind of terrifying and hilarious at the same time.

 

Also, I will be pissed if they kill of Gail.

[BetterButter]

 

[methodwriter85]

I'm curious as to what Jack Champion (aka Teen Tarzan from Avatar 2)  is playing. Boyfriend to Tara or someone who lost a loved one?

It's going to be so lame if they only resurrected Kirby just to kill her off.

[AgathaC]

2 hours ago, methodwriter85 said:

It's going to be so lame if they only resurrected Kirby just to kill her off.

Agreed. But I’m more worried about Gale. I will be pissed if they kill her off this time.

[Bastet]

6 hours ago, AgathaC said:

Agreed. But I’m more worried about Gale. I will be pissed if they kill her off this time.

Same -- unless I wind up hating this one, such that I'll be relieved they killed off the last of the OGs (depending on how they handle Sidney's absence from this one [and, as I must say every time, pay Neve Campbell, for fuck's sake]), so I don't feel obliged to keep going with the franchise based on nostalgia.

I'm really trying to roll with the new generation, and Five was fine, but I hope they'll grab me better with Six.

[Anela]

The original Scream is streaming for free (with ads) on youtube. 

[blackwing]

Knowing that Scream VI is around the corner, I finally got around to watching Scream 5.  I agree with many of the comments above.  I didn't really care for the character or actress Samantha.  I wanted her to die and Tara be the survivor.

I was crushed that Dewey died.  And I was sad that Jack Quaid was one of the killers, I liked his character the best and kept wanting him to be one of the survivors.

How did the male twin survive?  His injuries looked brutal, no way he would have lived.  It's interesting to me that the two killers are white, all the white friends died, and the only survivors are two Hispanic girls and two black friends.  Good for finally injecting some more diversity into this series.  But after five films, why are there never any Asian characters?  Especially being in California.  That cop that left the hospital doesn't count.

On 2/22/2022 at 10:33 PM, Zonk said:

Dewey's death annoyed me. He was a cop for decades. He should know that you don't walk up to somebody you want to shoot. A gun is a ranged weapon. He should be good enough with one that he could have landed that shot from just outside the elevator. If you want to kill him, by all means. But don't make him stupid to do so. That just sucks.

I've been trying to figure out when Ghostface was Richie and when Ghostface was Amber.  For some reason, I think it was Amber in the hospital corridor.  How did she survive getting shot in the chest in the hospital?  Bulletproof vest?

I'm annoyed that Dewey wouldn't even check who was under the mask after supposedly killing Ghostface.  He should have done that as soon as he shot her (or him?)

How did Amber survive getting shot point blank in the chest multiple times at the stove?  Bulletproof vest again, I assume?  This is why Dewey said you always have to shoot them in the head.  How did Gail and Sidney not know that?

[Anela]

I can't remember everything that happened, but they wasted time trying to paint the main character as one of the killers. All of the visions of her father, one of the OG killers. I hope they don't keeo going there in the next one, if I even watch it. I don't know if I will. They should have given Neve whatever she was asking for.

[Bastet]

6 hours ago, Anela said:

They should have given Neve whatever she was asking for.

Seriously; I highly doubt she went crazy and demanded $10 million or something, so fucking pay her.*  The thing that saved 5 from being a weak entry in the franchise was how the OG's were integrated even though not the focus, and it still shook out to just fine, so now, especially, with Dewey gone, how they used Gale and Sidney in this one was again going to be a huge factor in my enjoyment of 6 since I am not invested in Sam and only mildly so in the other survivors.  Kirby was my favorite new character in 4, so I'm glad she's back, but she's no Sidney.

I don't have high hopes for this, but that means it will be quite a pleasant surprise if I wind up digging it.  As I said before, if I like it, I hope Gale lives, but if I hate it, I hope Gale dies so I don't feel the need to watch any additional sequels.

*I wonder if Neve didn't like how Sidney was written, and asked not for a ridiculous amount but something she knew they wouldn't pay, so she could "we couldn't come to terms on salary" bow out without having to say she didn't want to play what they'd written for her character.  I do not at all have my ear to the ground on this; has anyone heard any scuttlebutt?