Gymnastics

[Jeddah]

1 hour ago, kittykat said:

I kind of think the US guys qualifying Fourth works in their favor because they'll start on Pommel and get that white whale out of the way.

I want them to medal so bad! However, I’ve been burned by them before, so I’m trying not to be too excited.

I wish Yul had qualified for the AA over Sam. And Shane Wiskus missed out on floor finals by .033. So close! It would have been cool if each American guy qualified for an event final.

Crushed for Kohei! It’s been a joy to watch him for over a decade, and I wish he had gotten the ending he wanted.

[Lady Whistleup]

Really happy to see mens' gymnastics on the prime-time broadcast.

[Quilt Fairy]

Is anyone else annoyed at the camera angles that have the stadium lights blaring at you?  It seems unprofessional.  I can't remember a competition where the lights shining at me distracted me from the performance as much as this. 

[Jeddah]

9 minutes ago, Quilt Fairy said:

Is anyone else annoyed at the camera angles that have the stadium lights blaring at you?  It seems unprofessional.  I can't remember a competition where the lights shining at me distracted me from the performance as much as this. 

The lights didn’t bother me, but I did keep noticing the ceiling! It looks different than most arenas. They did keep showing everything at a weird angle.

[Quilt Fairy]

I see they got a tiny bit of an audience, but with all those empty seats it feels like a practice.  

[Lady Whistleup]

Watching the China/Russia feed right now.

[ferjy]

12 minutes ago, Lady Whistleup said:

Watching the China/Russia feed right now.

Online?

 

[Lady Whistleup]

1 minute ago, ferjy said:

Online?

 

Yup live feed on NBC Olympics.

[ferjy]

1 minute ago, Lady Whistleup said:

Yup live feed on NBC Olympics.

Thanks.  I probably can't access it. I should check for Canadian feeds.

[Lady Whistleup]

Sigh Chinese bars always so beautiful.

Guan Chen Chen's beam is amazing.

Edited July 25, 2021 by Lady Whistleup

[twoods]

It’s hard to concentrate since all four apparatuses are on at once, but it seems as if Russia and China are killing it.

[choclatechip45]

Happy that each male USA gymnast qualified for an event final!

[Harry24]

Thoughts from the Russia/China qualifying:

1) Guan Chenchen was indeed amazing.  

2) Guan’s beam routine was the only one of the Chinese routines that didn’t look like a cookie cutter.  Where is that extraordinary creativity and beauty that we’ve grown to expect from the Chinese beam workers?  Sigh.

3) Likewise, what is going on with the Chinese UB’s?  They used to lead the world, but four Russians beat the best Chinese routine.  Clearly, Russia is now the world leader in the UBs.  Another sigh.  The Russian UB ladies are great, but they can’t touch the beauty of previous years’ Chinese UB routines.

4) Gerasimova had a terrible day, poor woobie.  I actually wondered if she might be sick.  She wasn’t part of the four-athlete team, but it was impossible to tell what her specialties were, she struggled so much.  So ... what ARE her specialties?

Edited July 25, 2021 by Harry24

[Jaded]

Oh shit!

😵

Edited July 25, 2021 by Jaded

[Minneapple]

Watching the women now on the NBC Sports app. Simone just took a huge step out of bounds on floor.

I don't understand this coverage at all. They keep referring to Suni Lee's FX but they never showed it? I don't think anyway. Maybe I didn't tune in on time? 

Eyes slipping shut. Have to go to sleep soon!

Edited July 25, 2021 by Minneapple

[choclatechip45]

1 minute ago, Minneapple said:

Watching the women now on the NBC Sports app. Simone just took a huge step out of bounds on floor.

I don't understand this coverage at all. They keep referring to Suni Lee's FX but they never showed it? I don't think anyway. Maybe I didn't tune in on time? 

They didn't show it. They only showed Grace and Simone. 

[twoods]

There is a feed that shows all four apparatuses at the same time on my Roku with the NBC olympics app, which is nice because I can watch everything without all the stupid talking. I thought Suni’s routine was great, and can’t believe Simone’s score was still high despite that 0.3 deduction which means she’s on another difficulty level than everyone else.

Good for Jade getting such a great score on floor.

Edited July 25, 2021 by twoods

[Harry24]

So pleased for Jade’s great performance and score on FX.  Whoa on Simone going COMPLETELY off the performing surface on that one pass.  The other three passes were spectacular.  It looked like she expected a bit higher than she got, in spite of the big error.  

I thought the judges were a little tough on Grace, Suni and Jordan, especially Jordan.  I think Russia won the FX.

[Mittengirl]

22 minutes ago, choclatechip45 said:

They didn't show it. They only showed Grace and Simone

I saw all four.  I am watching the “American Team Tracker” through my Roku’s Home Screen.  I think the coverage is through NBCOlympics.com.  There are no announcers on whatever I am watching.

 

Am I crazy or is someone doing FX to “Carol of the Bells”?

Edited July 25, 2021 by Mittengirl

[choclatechip45]

2 minutes ago, Mittengirl said:

I saw all four.  I am watching the “American Team Tracker” through my Roku’s Home Screen.  I think the coverage is through NBCOlympics.com.  There are no announcers on whatever I am watching.

Ah okay! I am watching the coverage on Peacock. 

[twoods]

Damn did Jade kill it again on vault. So impressed with her poise so far.

Grace looks like she’s having a blast out there.

Edited July 25, 2021 by twoods

[Harry24]

So happy for my girl, Jade.  Boy, she really brought it when it counted.

It’s a bit tough watching Simone struggle (for her.)

[Minneapple]

Yes, it's just as we all predicted. After two rotations the Americans are being led by...Jade Carey.

[Harry24]

3 minutes ago, Minneapple said:

Yes, it's just as we all predicted. After two rotations the Americans are being led by...Jade Carey.

And, just as we all predicted, the Americans are being led by ... Russia.  With bars (where Russia’s the best in the world) and beam, which is always the toughest to predict, to come.  Yikes.

Edited July 25, 2021 by Harry24

[choclatechip45]

So happy for Jade! She seems like a great young adult. She really impressed me when she welcomed Riley to her gym.

[Harry24]

I’m not a fan, but it’s tough to see the disappointment on Skinner’s face.  Man, these competitors have to be tough as nails.

[twoods]

I need to go to sleep. What is taking so long to with them moving onto the next apparatus?

[Harry24]

4 minutes ago, twoods said:

I need to go to sleep. What is taking so long to with them moving onto the next apparatus?

It seems like the score for Sanne Wevers (on the beam, I presume, given how high it was) took forever.

[Mittengirl]

I just switched to the Peacock coverage, which, unlike whatever I was watching, has announcers.  I am so confused on what is being shown where and what the difference is between them.

[Harry24]

Something went wrong on Jordan’s bar set.  I couldn’t tell why she almost scraped her feet on the floor, but she had to bend her knees to keep that from happening.  Oh, I see from the replay, she hit her feet on the high bar on her way down to the low.  Yikes.  I think the US is going to be in second place after tonight.  Not that they can’t bring it back in the actual team competition, of course.

Whoa, Jade is now leading Suni in the race to make the all-around final.  I don’t happen to know how much of an edge Suni has on beam in difficulty.  Of course, then they both have to stay on the beam!

Edited July 25, 2021 by Harry24

[twoods]

Yay Suni! What an awesome score on the bars. So happy for her.

[choclatechip45]

Wow. That was the best bar routine I've ever seen from Jade!

[Harry24]

Oh, no.  Grace seems to have lost a lot of execution points on beam, and Jordan melted down.  :-(

Excellent job by Suni.  (Why is she doing such an easy dismount on beam?  Injury?)

Now, hopefully Simone can get it back together and be herself.  Ooh, boy.  It was looking excellent til that dismount.  I hope Simone gets a good, restorative rest on her cardboard, No-Sex-Bed and comes back herself for the rest of the competition.

So Jade is the new Aly R.  Solid as a rock.  Too bad she wasn’t on the team.  Glad Suni made the all-around, though.

I was imaging the thought balloon above Jordan’s head as she fell off the beam.  “Shit.  And my mom’s going to jail.”  I hope her head space is better than that, of course.

Here’s hoping the American ladies come back fightin’ mad and sticking their landings for the final.

Edited July 25, 2021 by Harry24

[twoods]

Awww I thought Jade did great on the beam. Even Simone looked at the score and had a WTF look on her face.

[choclatechip45]

Happy for Jade! Pretty crazy that 5 years ago she had no intention of going elite and had the meet of her life tonight. 

Hopefully the team got out the jitters today! Maybe qualifying in second will give them motivation.

[pennben]

Seems crazy to this casual viewer that Jade isn’t actually on the team😀....I kid, I kid (mostly). 

[Harry24]

I will be very interested to hear from the more expert gymnastics observers here what the feeling is about the judging on the floor for the Americans versus the Russians.  Of just the team members, only Simone beat any of the Russians.  That was the only judging that seemed iffy to me.

Also, with the scores being so close with the Russians, I wonder if there is any hand wringing about not having Jade on the team.  She was the third place scorer of all six of the competitors.   For instance, say the Americans come second in the team and Jade comes second in the vault and floor.  Three silvers.  Would that outweigh a gold in the team and no silvers on floor or vault?  I don’t think so.  (Although of course Skinner could have medaled in those disciplines if Jade hadn’t done so well.)

Edited July 25, 2021 by Harry24

[choclatechip45]

1 minute ago, Harry24 said:

I will be very interested to hear from the more expert gymnastics observers here what the feeling is about the judging on the floor for the Americans versus the Russians.  Of just the team members, only Simone beat any of the Russians.  That was the only judging that seemed iffy to me.

Also, with the scores being so close with the Russians, I wonder if there is any hand wringing about not having Jade on the team.  She was the third place scorer of all six of the competitors.   For instance, say the Americans come second in the team and Jade comes second in the vault and floor.  Three silvers.  Would that outweigh a gold in the team and no silvers on floor or vault?  I don’t think so.  (Although of course Skinner could have medaled in those disciplines if Jade hadn’t done so well.)

Jade chose to qualify going through the World Cups so if she was named to the main team the US would have only been able to send 5 gymnasts. 

I think the issue with judging is that the Americans have been over scored at home. The Russians were great today while the US was just alright.

[pennben]

Casual fan here again, but from my understanding, it’s 2 per apparatus for finals.  Does 5 v 6 make much difference given the constraint?  
as I understand from commentary tonight, mistake on individuals was taking someone with same specialties as someone already qualified in individuals?  

[choclatechip45]

5 minutes ago, pennben said:

Casual fan here again, but from my understanding, it’s 2 per apparatus for finals.  Does 5 v 6 make much difference given the constraint?  
as I understand from commentary tonight, mistake on individuals was taking someone with same specialties as someone already qualified in individuals?  

So two things 

1) Jade is injured and the fact she already qualified meant she could take trials easy. 

2) I think people thought the USA would try to maximize the amount of medals which didn't happen by naming Skinner to the other individual team. 

Edited July 25, 2021 by choclatechip45

[Jeddah]

Something good finally comes from the 2 per country rule because now I never have to see Mykayla Skinner’s sloppy gymnastics ever again. It was so stupid of USAG to send two vault/floor specialists in the individual spots.

[Jillibean]

Well, that was more exciting than I expected. From my non-expert view, it was clear that the US women had a lot of blips on floor. Very few clean sticks and Suni landed a pass in a tucked position. And some messy wolf turns all around. I was so excited to see Simone keep the triple double in bounds, and then she absolutely flew off the entire apparatus on pass 3! Eesh. 

Jade's composure was amazing. I was also very impressed with Suni and Simone for going out on beam with nerves of steel after Jordan's fall. Suni seemed to be nervous the first two rotations but once she hit her bars routine you could almost see the weight come off her shoulders. Grace was shaky on beam but he delivered very well on the other three apparatuses, which ended up mattering. Jordan having an unexpected mental meltdown is exactly what Grace is on that team.

So...what would you guys do for team finals, given how today went? I'd probably put Grace on bars. Beam is trickier because Jordan was a disaster but while Grace didn't come off the beam, she also didn't nail it.

Very happy that Suni secured the second AA spot. Jade absolutely deserves the event finals she qualified for. She was essentially perfect on floor and vault.  

[Chaser]

Yeesh. Didn’t expect to wake up to these performances. Hopefully they have worked their nerves out. I can’t imagine the pressure they’ve been under. Expectations are so high. 

[Dots And Stripes]

7 hours ago, choclatechip45 said:

Jade chose to qualify going through the World Cups so if she was named to the main team the US would have only been able to send 5 gymnasts. 

It looks like the U.S. could have done that without a change to the medal count. That's hindsight though and Jade didn't compete everything at trials. Interesting to think about though.

[Minneapple]

3 hours ago, Jeddah said:

It was so stupid of USAG to send two vault/floor specialists in the individual spots.

I also wondered about this. Doesn't it make more sense to send a bars specialist considering all the aches and pains on bars? Gabby and Madison were both sent to the Olympics based on the strength of their bars. Now Mykayla the supposed specialist is done without qualifying for an event final. 

Also someone needs to tell Mykayla AGAIN to cool it on social media. She's liking tweets about how she should have been on the team over Jordan. I don't know if she just doesn't read everything she gives a like to, but it's a bad look.

[Lady Whistleup]

Aww. I feel bad for MyKayla.

 

[twoods]

Is that why Jordan pretends she doesn’t exist when they are on the sidelines? Definitely noticed a chill between the two of them, and I don’t blame Jordan if Mykayla is liking all those posts on social media.

Edited July 25, 2021 by twoods

[Lady Whistleup]

4 minutes ago, twoods said:

Is that why Jordan pretends she doesn’t exist when they are on the sidelines? Definitely noticed a chill between the two of them, and I don’t blame Jordan if Mykayla is liking all those posts on social media.

Jordan had a very rough outing. Think she was more upset with her own showing.

[Dots And Stripes]

3 hours ago, Jeddah said:

Something good finally comes from the 2 per country rule because now I never have to see Mykayla Skinner’s sloppy gymnastics ever again. It was so stupid of USAG to send two vault/floor specialists in the individual spots.

 

3 minutes ago, Minneapple said:

I also wondered about this. Doesn't it make more sense to send a bars specialist considering all the aches and pains on bars? Gabby and Madison were both sent to the Olympics based on the strength of their bars. Now Mykayla the supposed specialist is done without qualifying for an event final. 

Also someone needs to tell Mykayla AGAIN to cool it on social media. She's liking tweets about how she should have been on the team over Jordan. I don't know if she just doesn't read everything she gives a like to, but it's a bad look.

The U.S. apparently didn't have better options. There was a bar specialist in the running, but she fell at trials. From what I saw from fan comments, it doesn't sound like she was good enough to be a lock for a medal anyway. As it is, the U.S. qualified the maximum number of finalists in each WAG event. It seems like the US realized no individual really gave them a better shot at a medal so they gave the spot to 5th place AA. Also, Jade wasn't at 100% at trials so she definitely wasn't a lock for floor or vault.

1 minute ago, twoods said:

Is that why Jordan pretends she doesn’t exist when they are on the sidelines? Definitely noticed a chill between the two of them, and I don’t blame Jordan if Mykayla is liking all those posts on social media.

Apparently Mykayla likes everything that mentions her. She should know by now it gets her in trouble. I really don't think Jordan would care all that much. She was smiling and dancing in the last youtube video I saw from Mykayla. They seem fine with eachother. Both Jordan and Mykayla looked dour at points last night most likely because the meet wasn't going the way they wanted it to. We haven't seen Jordan on camera since Mykalya started liking tweets that she deserved Jordan's spot.

[choclatechip45]

1 hour ago, Jillibean said:

Well, that was more exciting than I expected. From my non-expert view, it was clear that the US women had a lot of blips on floor. Very few clean sticks and Suni landed a pass in a tucked position. And some messy wolf turns all around. I was so excited to see Simone keep the triple double in bounds, and then she absolutely flew off the entire apparatus on pass 3! Eesh. 

Jade's composure was amazing. I was also very impressed with Suni and Simone for going out on beam with nerves of steel after Jordan's fall. Suni seemed to be nervous the first two rotations but once she hit her bars routine you could almost see the weight come off her shoulders. Grace was shaky on beam but he delivered very well on the other three apparatuses, which ended up mattering. Jordan having an unexpected mental meltdown is exactly what Grace is on that team.

So...what would you guys do for team finals, given how today went? I'd probably put Grace on bars. Beam is trickier because Jordan was a disaster but while Grace didn't come off the beam, she also didn't nail it.

Very happy that Suni secured the second AA spot. Jade absolutely deserves the event finals she qualified for. She was essentially perfect on floor and vault.  

I would put Grace/Simone on the all around, Jordan VT/Floor and Suni UB/BB.