Ratings and Scheduling: Who's the fairest of them all?

[Tiger]

I'm actually a bit annoyed that ABC doesnt have the balls, or maybe doesnt care to put forth the effort, to publicly announce that the show has been cancelled and to promote 'the final X episodes'.  

[Curio]

11 minutes ago, Tiger said:

I'm actually a bit annoyed that ABC doesnt have the balls, or maybe doesnt care to put forth the effort, to publicly announce that the show has been cancelled and to promote 'the final X episodes'.  

 

They were kind of dipping their toes in the water by saying "it's the final chapter" in the more recent promos, but it's still a cop-out. I imagine once they officially announce it, then they'll really start hammering "it's the final eight episodes."

[Mari]

Along with yet another picture of the Reginas. 

Marketing and storytelling genius, I tell you.

[jjjmoss]

Time after Time adjusted up to a 0.7, so at least it beat Sleepy Hollow's season high as far as major network shows go. Still a huge flop.

[ParadoxLost]

On ‎3‎/‎7‎/‎2017 at 8:52 PM, Tiger said:

I'm actually a bit annoyed that ABC doesnt have the balls, or maybe doesnt care to put forth the effort, to publicly announce that the show has been cancelled and to promote 'the final X episodes'.  

But what they are doing goes beyond an unwillingness to say its cancelled in promote the final X episodes.

There doesn't seem to be anything that they know now that they wouldn't have know when they started putting out the idea of wrapping it up and setting up the show for a reboot.

It points to being so afraid of cancellation driving away viewers that they went to the extreme of creating and casting a reboot scenario.

Otherwise they must have something that they want to leave an option open for just in case they want to do it.   Not that I think anything would come of it.  And I'm more and more thinking its not something on ABC but on one of the other Disney owned networks.  And I think that it would be a cancellation in all but name.

[sharky]

You bring up an interesting point about casting. Why would they actually cast two actors as a stepping point out of the finale to next season if they don't intend to have a next season. Is it guaranteed? Definitely not. But I don't see them going through casting and then making an announcement about it if this is the last season and they have zero intention to renew it.

[ParadoxLost]

11 minutes ago, sharky said:

You bring up an interesting point about casting. Why would they actually cast two actors as a stepping point out of the finale to next season if they don't intend to have a next season. Is it guaranteed? Definitely not. But I don't see them going through casting and then making an announcement about it if this is the last season and they have zero intention to renew it.

I've been mulling it over since I thought of it. 

But I wonder if they have some kind of development deal with A&E that came out of Dead of Summer.  I don't think OUAT is coming back to ABC.  But I think maybe they are going to do a nearly full reboot with younger cast and putting it on Freeform.

Edited March 9, 2017 by ParadoxLost

[sharky]

I agree with you there. If they don't renew, I can see them doing a spin off on Freeform and using the finale as a back door pilot. They've had some success with sending Nashville to CMT and it would give them a new Freeform show that would require little development and capital since it would be a spin off with canon and sets already in place. The green screens would probably have to go and acting expenses would easily be cut with a smaller, younger and unknown cast.

[CCTC]

I would like to see the show get one more season, but am prepared to see this be the end.  

What will irritate me slightly is if they end the show with most of the original cast in a curse, or an epilogue that reveals most of the cast is in a curse, so they can try to launch a reboot with angsty, but good-looking twenty-somethings on Freeform who are in turmoil because of something bad that happened to their now-off the show parents, grandparents etc. who don't get a happy ending to fuel a reboot.

[Free]

11 hours ago, ParadoxLost said:

I've been mulling it over since I thought of it. 

But I wonder if they have some kind of development deal with A&E that came out of Dead of Summer.  I don't think OUAT is coming back to ABC.  But I think maybe they are going to do a nearly full reboot with younger cast and putting it on Freeform.

That's not very promising considering that show only lasted a season before getting the boot.

[Curio]

12 hours ago, sharky said:

I agree with you there. If they don't renew, I can see them doing a spin off on Freeform and using the finale as a back door pilot. They've had some success with sending Nashville to CMT and it would give them a new Freeform show that would require little development and capital since it would be a spin off with canon and sets already in place. 

With the soapy way OUAT is written and the Disney fairy tale aspects, I think it meshes more with Freeform's brand identity than ABC's. It also helps that A&E have written for Freeform in the past. I could actually see OUAT being one of Freeform's top flagship shows, and that network is desperate for a strong show to anchor it after Pretty Little Liars leaves. Freeform needs a hit, but the keys will be: 1) Will the main OUAT cast sign on again to a show with a much cheaper budget on a new network targeted at teens? Cast members with legit credentials might balk at the idea of being "demoted" from ABC to Freeform. (This might be why they're still struggling to negotiate deals with some cast members.) And 2) Can Freeform trust A&E to showrun another series after Dead of Summer bombed? A&E had plans for a Season 2 for that show too and there were articles written about how the camp would take place in the 70s, but it still got the axe. So just because OUAT has gone through the casting process of hiring some new actors for the finale with the intention to carry them over into Season 7 doesn't necessarily mean Season 7 is a lock. Who knows, Supergirl transitioned well from CBS to CW, so maybe OUAT moving to Freeform would be a good thing, especially if they have more freedom to write different stories because of being on cable.

Edited March 9, 2017 by Curio

[sharky]

I don't know if the main cast would sign on for the move to Freeform, but it could work. Lana and Colin are under a full contract and then you could sign others like Jen and the Charmings to guest contracts to make it work. Although this idea would thwart my plans for a successful campaign to get Colin signed on as the new Doctor Who. I mean, seriously, I love his take on Captain Hook but if he could be considered for Doctor Who, I would track down A&E to hand them whatever fanfiction story I would've concocted to make Hook's absence work. But I digress.....

Also, I wonder if Once's success made ABC offer A&E a development deal. Anyone have any insight in that kind of deal? I'm thinking when Once's first season was a success, the network said "What else do you have?" and then signed them to a deal that includes OUAT in Wonderland, Dead of Summer and whatever this spinoff ends up becoming. And no, I'm not sure Freeform can trust A&E after Dead of Summer, but Once is a well known property with an established fanbase. Even if you only bring over half that audience -- say 1.5-2 million or so viewers -- it's a gang buster show. For comparison, Pretty Little Liars pulls in 1.2 million viewers and is clearly the ratings queen of that station.

[coppersin]

Well, if we do get a season 7, the casting has begun. Andrew West (from The Walking Dead) will appear in the finale and presumably next season as a regular. I'm not familiar enough with Freeform to know if this means anything. If they start casting a bunch of teenagers then maybe it'll be more obvious.  

[Free]

4 hours ago, sharky said:

I don't know if the main cast would sign on for the move to Freeform, but it could work. Lana and Colin are under a full contract and then you could sign others like Jen and the Charmings to guest contracts to make it work. Although this idea would thwart my plans for a successful campaign to get Colin signed on as the new Doctor Who. I mean, seriously, I love his take on Captain Hook but if he could be considered for Doctor Who, I would track down A&E to hand them whatever fanfiction story I would've concocted to make Hook's absence work. But I digress.....

Also, I wonder if Once's success made ABC offer A&E a development deal. Anyone have any insight in that kind of deal? I'm thinking when Once's first season was a success, the network said "What else do you have?" and then signed them to a deal that includes OUAT in Wonderland, Dead of Summer and whatever this spinoff ends up becoming. And no, I'm not sure Freeform can trust A&E after Dead of Summer, but Once is a well known property with an established fanbase. Even if you only bring over half that audience -- say 1.5-2 million or so viewers -- it's a gang buster show. For comparison, Pretty Little Liars pulls in 1.2 million viewers and is clearly the ratings queen of that station.

It would probably dip a lot lower, most of Freeform shows gets 0.1s, it's a barely watched network especially with them losing their flagship Pretty Little Liars.

[Shanna Marie]

I guess the actor contracts are with the production company, which wouldn't change even with a network change, rather than the network, so the actors still under contract wouldn't have any choice but to stay if the show moved to Freeform, unless there's specific contract language regarding where the show is being broadcast. On the other hand, the production company would be on the hook for a salary contracted for a major network show, so if their budget is being drastically slashed, they would probably want to get rid of as many of the existing characters as possible, maybe keeping around one or two in an "elder statesman" capacity, and possibly in a recurring role with a re-negotiated contract -- lower salary, availability for a few appearances a season, but otherwise free to pursue other things.

[tri4335]

4 hours ago, sharky said:

I don't know if the main cast would sign on for the move to Freeform, but it could work. Lana and Colin are under a full contract and then you could sign others like Jen and the Charmings to guest contracts to make it work. Although this idea would thwart my plans for a successful campaign to get Colin signed on as the new Doctor Who. I mean, seriously, I love his take on Captain Hook but if he could be considered for Doctor Who, I would track down A&E to hand them whatever fanfiction story I would've concocted to make Hook's absence work. But I digress.....

 

I want Colin to be paired with Joanna Garcia in a rom/com type of show for ABC as I think they have great chemistry but anything that gets him away from A & E works for me!

[Curio]

3 minutes ago, Free said:

It would probably dip a lot lower, most of Freeform shows gets 0.1s, it's a barely watched network especially with them losing their flagship Pretty Little Liars.

That's what makes me think OUAT could be heading over to Freeform. The CW floundered for a while before it found hits with Arrow and The Flash, but Supernatural was that steady fantasy show with the passionate following that helped keep the network afloat after the WB/CBS merger for a few years until they found their identity. OUAT could serve as Freeform's fantasy show with the passionate following built in to give the network some cred until they find a new hit show to make its flagship. Freeform needs some ratings help, and OUAT moving over there would bring a bump in viewers, at least for a little bit. I could see Parrilla agreeing staying on Freeform for a few years, but the rest of the OUAT cast is questionable.

[KingOfHearts]

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That's what makes me think OUAT could be heading over to Freeform. 

I think OUAT would fit well on Freeform. The expectations would be lower, so A&E could do their ten seasons of epic crap. It would probably become unadulterated fan service, but if that gives us more fodder to complain about, more power to them.

Edited March 9, 2017 by KingOfHearts

[sharky]

1 hour ago, tri4335 said:

I want Colin to be paired with Joanna Garcia in a rom/com type of show for ABC as I think they have great chemistry but anything that gets him away from A & E works for me!

Yes, but that would mean Joanna wouldn't be on Pitch anymore and I need that show to succeed as well. Essentially, I'm a glutton for TV bubbles this season. It's a problem. And seriously, look at this photo of Colin as the Doctor.

As for the Freeform move, Once could easily pull high numbers by Freeform standards if they carry even some the audience over and that wouldn't be too hard considering we're probably already at core audience levels. If you hold on to someone like Lana or Colin (or keep Lana and send Colin off to do Doctor Who), the fans will move with the show.

[KingOfHearts]

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As for the Freeform move, Once could easily pull high numbers by Freeform standards if they carry even some the audience over and that wouldn't be too hard considering we're probably already at core audience levels. If you hold on to someone like Lana or Colin (or keep Lana and send Colin off to do Doctor Who), the fans will move with the show.

I imagine the budget would be significantly smaller, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. It would probably be campier like OUATIW, with less real sets. If Lana stays, her wardrobe would probably take up the majority of the budget.

Edited March 9, 2017 by KingOfHearts

[Rumsy4]

37 minutes ago, KingOfHearts said:

If Lana stays, her wardrobe would probably take up the majority of the budget.

Lbr, it probably already does, at least this season. Eduardo Castro was saying she had a new costume for each scene for this season. I donno if he had meant to say per episode, but I remember Lana wearing three different costumes in one episode this season. So...

[Mathius]

5 hours ago, coppersin said:

Andrew West (from The Walking Dead) will appear in the finale and presumably next season as a regular. 

His casting describes a "leading man", so he'd probably take over from both Jennifer and Colin, being both the main character and leading man.

Edited March 9, 2017 by Mathius

[sharky]

But Colin has a final year on his contract and I just don't see ABC letting him go that easily. He's a big draw for the show and with a reboot, the only actors under contract are Lana, Colin and Emilie. I can see them maybe signing Jen for guest shots while Colin would still play the role of a main cast member.

[Rumsy4]

25 minutes ago, sharky said:

But Colin has a final year on his contract and I just don't see ABC letting him go that easily. He's a big draw for the show and with a reboot, the only actors under contract are Lana, Colin and Emilie. I can see them maybe signing Jen for guest shots while Colin would still play the role of a main cast member.

The Show has chronically underused Josh Dallas, and serially wasted Will Scarlet, Robin Hood, and Captain Hook in three successive seasons. The latter knowing full well Colin's Hook is a very popular character. I can see it going either way.

[jhlipton]

9 hours ago, coppersin said:

Well, if we do get a season 7, the casting has begun. Andrew West (from The Walking Dead) will appear in the finale and presumably next season as a regular. I'm not familiar enough with Freeform to know if this means anything. If they start casting a bunch of teenagers then maybe it'll be more obvious.  

"word is he will play a grown-up who is a kid."
Because we haven't seen that before. 
If it does move to Freeform, I'll be happy since I won't follow it there.

[Camera One]

Hopefully, it's just this year's version of Jekyll and Hyde.... irrelevant in 4 episodes (or fewer).

[superloislane]

7 hours ago, sharky said:

But Colin has a final year on his contract and I just don't see ABC letting him go that easily. He's a big draw for the show and with a reboot, the only actors under contract are Lana, Colin and Emilie.

Question: how does anyone know anything about contracts? All we know is that Jen said her contract is up this season which leads to the conclusion that everyone who signed at the same time as her are up too. So why would Lana still be under contract?

[Rumsy4]

Lana renegotiated her contract at the end of S1. So people believe her contract clock was reset. I'm not sure one way or the other. In any case, why would Lana walk away from OUAT? It's not like she has other things lined up...

[superloislane]

I don't think she'd walk away at all but why does anyone think her contract was renegotiated? Did she say something?

[Souris]

4 hours ago, superloislane said:

I don't think she'd walk away at all but why does anyone think her contract was renegotiated? Did she say something?

It's one of those things that's going around the fandom. Maybe it came from a source with knowledge, maybe somebody just made it up and everyone ran with it. We don't know for sure.

[Amerilla]

6 minutes ago, Souris said:

It's one of those things that's going around the fandom. Maybe it came from a source with knowledge, maybe somebody just made it up and everyone ran with it. We don't know for sure.

 

 

Much like the endless speculation on Robert Carlyle's contract. That's been going on for 6 years now, and I'd say we've pretty much put to bed the idea that he only had a five-year contract.

If they really do want to tie up the current storyline and move on to a rebooted premise, I don't see anyone from the current cast carrying over except Lana...for reasons I guess best discussed in Spoilers.

Edited March 10, 2017 by Amerilla

[Curio]

20 minutes ago, Amerilla said:

If they really do want to tie up the current storyline and move on to a rebooted premise, I don't see anyone from the current cast carrying over except Lana...for reasons I guess best discussed in Spoilers.

I don't think we even need to bring up spoilers to assume Lana will be the main glue connecting the reboot to the original series. She has by far the most screen time of any character in Season 6, so in effect, she is now OUAT's official main character. If A&E want a stronger connection between the main show and the reboot, they'll want to carry over the main character. It's also obvious Regina is one of A&E's favorite characters to write for, so it seems likely they'll want to keep writing for her. There's also more incentive for Lana to stay on to help her career. Of all main cast members, Lana probably doesn't have as big of a future beyond OUAT as leading lady. That's not a dig at her acting abilities, it's just the harsh truth that, in Hollywood, actresses in their 40s aren't as appealing to casting directors and there are rarely roles written for them. I think Lana recognizes this, knows Regina is a once in a lifetime role for her, knows she has a crazy fandom, and will stay with the show as long as it manages to stay alive. Meanwhile, Ginny has ties with the Oscar-winning Zootopia franchise (and even though he had a small part, so does Josh) and will be fine, Jennifer seems to have a successful directing career ahead of her, Colin has the advantage of being male so his acting career is just starting, Robert is Robert and will be successful in UK roles the rest of his life, and Emilie and Bex were never really a huge factors on OUAT anyways. Lana has the most to lose by leaving OUAT, so she's probably the only guaranteed person to carry over to the reboot. 

Edited March 10, 2017 by Curio

[Mathius]

14 hours ago, Rumsy4 said:

The Show has chronically underused Josh Dallas, and serially wasted Will Scarlet, Robin Hood, and Captain Hook in three successive seasons.

Disagree on that part.  They wasted him in S4, and now in S6, but he was a major character throughout S5, finale aside.

[Curio]

10 minutes ago, Mathius said:

Disagree on that part.  They wasted him in S4, and now in S6, but he was a major character throughout S5, finale aside.

I think the three seasons in a row meant Will Underused = Season 4, Robin Underused = Season 5, Hook Underused = Season 6.

[Rumsy4]

1 hour ago, Souris said:

It's one of those things that's going around the fandom. Maybe it came from a source with knowledge, maybe somebody just made it up and everyone ran with it. We don't know for sure.

It originated from someone who dislikes JMo. So, I'd take it with a large bucket of salt. If anyone's playing hardball, it's abc.

I think we all know by now that it's most likely to be a minimal reboot, with a probable move to Freeform. 

5 minutes ago, Curio said:

I think the three seasons in a row meant Will Underused = Season 4, Robin Underused = Season 5, Hook Underused = Season 6.

Yeah. That's what I meant. 

[Mathius]

3 minutes ago, Rumsy4 said:

Yeah. That's what I meant. 

Ah, OK.  Though even Hook has it better in S6 than Zelena.  She went from a starring role in 5B to having less screentime than freaking Belle.

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I think we all know by now that it's most likely to be a minimal reboot, with a probable move to Freeform. 

IF it happens, anyway.  Freeform may want to avoid A&E like the plague following Dead of Summer.

Edited March 10, 2017 by Mathius

[Rumsy4]

7 minutes ago, Mathius said:

Though even Hook has it better in S6 than Zelena.  She went from a starring role in 5B to having less screentime than freaking Belle.

We were talking about how Hook is such a popular character, and it was likely A&E would want to keep him on for the reboot. But I was countering that A&E have no qualms wasting characters, even popular ones.

[tri4335]

13 hours ago, Mathius said:

Ah, OK.  Though even Hook has it better in S6 than Zelena.  She went from a starring role in 5B to having less screentime than freaking Belle.

IF it happens, anyway.  Freeform may want to avoid A&E like the plague following Dead of Summer.

This is why I don't begrudge any of the actors for not wanting to re-sign.  A & E have tied up many actors and then sidelined them while preventing them from finding other work. I know they eventually let some of them move on but it was always at their schedule and not the actors.  I feel for JD who gave up Thor 2 because of OUAT and then was barely used. GG has faired better but that may be a function of her being first billed and it looked better to let her have time off for maternity/child rearing and Zootopia for Disney the parent company. That presents the better narrative then the reality of we only want to write for Regina.

Edited March 11, 2017 by tri4335
fixing typos

[sharky]

JD gave up Thor 2 to be in season 2 on Once. I think he did pretty good for himself considering he was used that season and the show is still on the air. As Robert has mentioned, there is something to be said for a steady TV pay check.

I think the Freeform idea may have originated with me or someone in this thread. There are just too many things in its favor to go that way if ABC doesn't retain it for the network. Younger skewing cast, removing cost by removing cast, need for a Pretty Little Liars replacement, Nashville success, show owned by network, established fan base, already sunk costs for sets and crew, etc. But it's just another potential possibility for this show. They could just say screw it, everyone lives happily ever after, the end. Colin becomes Doctor Who, JMo releases Sun Dogs to huge success, GG and JD get plugged into some cute Disney project, Lana does whatever Lana does, and we will see them at a few cons this year and ask "What do you really think about A&E?"

[Curio]

7 minutes ago, sharky said:

and we will see them at a few cons this year and ask "What do you really think about A&E?"

I so, so hope we get some real candid soundbites from the actors once the show officially ends. 

[maryle]

At this point I don't even buy the actors are the real problem I think ABC really consider going in a new direction for the network (more comedy...) 

And Once just don't have the rating for a easy renewal. So A. E are now the real pushing force behind any Reboot. 

Very similar to Castle when the production company begin to propose a reboot for diminuing the cost and probably ease the tension.

ABC didn't commit but keep negotiate with the company like they were interesting and made the final call only day from the final.

A and E are fighting for them. Will see if they are successful in May if Once is back on ABC or Freeform. I take the freedom plan like a rumor until I hear something more concrete about it.

[Souris]

59 minutes ago, Mathius said:

IF it happens, anyway.  Freeform may want to avoid A&E like the plague following Dead of Summer.

I wonder if they have some kind of multi-show deal with ABC that moving Once to Freeform would take care of. They'd probably rather have Once than some new crap from A&E.

23 minutes ago, Curio said:

I so, so hope we get some real candid soundbites from the actors once the show officially ends. 

Ah, if only! I think most of the regular cast are too professional to be candid. And they love Lana, so she'd just gush.

[Shanna Marie]

1 hour ago, Mathius said:

Disagree on that part.  They wasted him in S4, and now in S6, but he was a major character throughout S5, finale aside.

I'm curious, has anyone done the screentime analysis for Hook in S5? He was important to the story and had a few big episodes and some important scenes, which contributes to the impression of him playing a major role, but he was also sidelined or absent a lot. In 5A, aside from the last two episodes, there were some big moments, but in the present he was mostly brooding in the background, and then he disappeared for long periods of time in Camelot or was pretty in the background. In 5B, his screentime total would be skewed by the episode where he was visible for about 20 seconds and had no lines and a couple of episodes where he didn't do much but be tortured. Again, he played a big role in the two arc wrapup episodes and he had a centric, but once they were in the Underworld, the story switched to being more about Regina and her family.

[sharky]

2 hours ago, Souris said:

I wonder if they have some kind of multi-show deal with ABC that moving Once to Freeform would take care of. They'd probably rather have Once than some new crap from A&E.

Exactly. I'm assuming if they do have a multi-show deal, it was was signed early on. And since it was signed, we had the Wonderland flop on the network and the Dead flop on Freeform. At least Once is a known commodity with an established set, story and fan base. 

[oncebluethrone]

2 hours ago, Shanna Marie said:

I'm curious, has anyone done the screentime analysis for Hook in S5? He was important to the story and had a few big episodes and some important scenes, which contributes to the impression of him playing a major role, but he was also sidelined or absent a lot. In 5A, aside from the last two episodes, there were some big moments, but in the present he was mostly brooding in the background, and then he disappeared for long periods of time in Camelot or was pretty in the background. In 5B, his screentime total would be skewed by the episode where he was visible for about 20 seconds and had no lines and a couple of episodes where he didn't do much but be tortured. Again, he played a big role in the two arc wrapup episodes and he had a centric, but once they were in the Underworld, the story switched to being more about Regina and her family.

Enchanted Forest News Service on tumblr did one for the main characters. He has the third greatest amount of screen time after Emma and Regina overall, is in 2nd place in 5A and 4th place in 5B.  

[ParadoxLost]

7 hours ago, sharky said:

I think the Freeform idea may have originated with me or someone in this thread. 

I think it was me or a great minds think a like thing

6 hours ago, maryle said:

A and E are fighting for them. Will see if they are successful in May if Once is back on ABC or Freeform. I take the freedom plan like a rumor until I hear something more concrete about it.

Rumor is too strong a word.  I wouldn't credit it as anything more than rampant speculation initiated by someone who knows nothing about anything:)

[sharky]

51 minutes ago, ParadoxLost said:

Rumor is too strong a word.  I wouldn't credit it as anything more than rampant speculation initiated by someone who knows nothing about anything:)

This is true @ParadoxLost. We know nothing about anything. At this point, we could be showrunners for an ABC drama with how much we know nothing about anything.

And yeah, can't remember who but I definitely saw the Freeform idea start here. We're way too invested in schedules and ratings in this thread.

[Curio]

7 minutes ago, sharky said:

And yeah, can't remember who but I definitely saw the Freeform idea start here. We're way too invested in schedules and ratings in this thread.

I kind of ran with the idea a little bit too, but I don't think it's farfetched to assume it might happen. A&E have already written a show for Freeform and might have some goodwill there (even if their series bombed), ABC still has a huge question mark on their Sunday night schedule, Dungey wants to rebrand OUAT, a new 10-year-old just got cast as a possible regular cast member for Season 7 which makes it seem like they're targeting a younger audience, Andrew J. West just got cast as a potential regular cast member for Season 7 and he might have some Freeform contract ties based on A&E hiring him for Dead of Summer, cast negotiations are still ongoing, Freeform will be desperate to replace their hit Pretty Little Liars with something big, Freeform is owned by Disney—ABC, ABC is looking to gut the OUAT cast and switching to cable means cutting costs... it all kind of points in that direction.

[cappoe]

Colin, JMO, Lana, and Bobby are going through contract negotiations for S7.

No other cast members have been approached yet according to articles coming out today.

I will watch the show if CS are in it, no matter what. If either of them leave I'm done. It's that simple.

[Curio]

4 minutes ago, cappoe said:

No other cast members have been approached yet according to articles coming out today.

Wait, what articles?