Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[lgprimes]

4 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

And isn't it interesting that Lils brought up the lost deal to Jill, but conveniently left out that she's the cause of the deal being lost cuz she betrayed Billy & A-C and teamed up with Vic

Yeah that was disappointing. I’m team Lily and rooting all the way for her to get to be Boss CEO woman, but to throw Billy under the bus for not completing a deal that SHE sabotaged? Not cool.

[pvandal]

Who knew dying would give Heather a personality?

[surfgirl]

Lily divulging her plans with Jill to Nikki shows just how unsophisticated and unsavvy My Pretty Pony really is in the C Suite world! DUH. I'd love it if Jill came back guns blazing and got Chance to join her in running CI, ridding it of the A in AC for Asshole Billy.

Edited October 31 by surfgirl

[Waldo13]

Bowie (Dom) is absolutely adorable as is Aria. It looks like Aria could actually be Mariah’s daughter.  Talking about adorable kids, where is Harrison?  

Has Billy👃’s vitriol is being transferred to Sally by osmosis. It’s Halloween so why are they upset that Adam, Chelsea, and  Connor are together sharing family time. 

Sharon channeling her inner Lady Macbeth.  “Out damn spot” but instead of washing the blood off her hands, Sharon is polishing a silver bowl. Also like Lady Macbeth, Sharon  psychological condition continues to decline. 

By the way, Heather never looked better.  

 

[Joimiaroxeu]

Billy. You know Chelsea and Connor live a few feet away from the coffeehouse. Of course you run into them there, sometimes with Adam in tow. You acting annoyed about it = stupid.

AW YISS, GHOUL HEATHER! Let's go!!!!!! 🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳

Yeah, that little actor has been great casting for Dominic. He does look like he could actually be BJ's son.

Sally, quit worrying about Chelsea and Adam. Those two cheaters don't deserve your concern.

Chelsea & Adam as Halloween Barbie & Ken?  Hah hah hah hah hah, you're funny, Connor. I'd vote for Audra & Nate but knowing this show they'd go with Claire & Kyle.

Everyone's pushing your buttons, Lily? Wah, wah, sucks to be you. Must be hard not owning Chancellor and not being enthroned as its CEO just because that's what you want.

Get her, Ghoul Heather! Haunt the eff out of crazypants Sharon!

Adam told Billy Newman Media's hit piece style of reporting is "fair and balanced." TPTB let that phrase pass? Whatever, I am over Adam getting in Billy's face. He's not the injured party; not by a long shot.

Val Bloom must be having a blast. When Ghoul Heather popped up in Sharon's back seat I almost busted out laughing. So campy.

Oh dear, sounds like Lily's planning to show her whole @$$ at the big wedding. Giiiirl, you and Phyllis should carpool together since it's likely she'll go off on Sharon, Chance, and Christine.

[NinjaPenguins]

A Holiday Recap - Write of the Living Dead

The true terror in Genoa City is what you don’t see. There’s a dark force lurking in the shadows, an entity known as… The Hack. He will shit all over the soap you love, slap the Febreze out of your hand and rub your nose in it. Boo!

You know what’s great? When one of Victor’s passel of children pretends he has any redeeming qualities yet has to apologize for him.  Abby is so sorry her generous, loving father shafted her fiancee’s sister. Hey, isn’t it great that the unwrapped mummy has taken absolute control of her and Devon’s wedding? That withered flap is sure to create something magical, perhaps an early Munsters tableau with a dash of Pet Sematary sparkle.

Billy is dressed as a secret agent man for Halloween, or perhaps he’s wearing a void costume to match his personality. He walks into Crimson Lights, where a horror show is unfolding starring Adam, Chelsea and Connor. Sally soon arrives, having seen the Biscuit signal in the Genoa City sky. In a series of scenes clearly written by aliens unfamiliar with human psychology, Sally and Billy die inside as Connor earnestly blathers about how his parents being together really helps his OCD. Sound basis for a relationship that this show is trying to force on us by repeatedly insisting Adam and Chelz are inevitable, right? Connor, dressed as a doctor, even insists on listening to his mother’s heart while his dad stands nearby. Ohhh, her heart is racing, y’all. Fuck off.

Lily gets snippy with Jill, ruining a nice little Billy bashing session I was really getting into. Lily wants Billy’s mother to fire his flat ass, but Jill wants them to work together. Lily finds Devon at the park, where he and Abby are telling Mariah and Tessa about handing their milestone moment off to despicable old Victor. Speaking privately, Lily jumps up Devon’s ass with both feet, dislodging the titanium rod he usually keeps there. He suggests giving up the fight for Chancellor, and she suggests not coming to his wedding because she can’t trust herself not to jack up Nikki and Victor with a pillowcase full of wedding bells. Devon has a sad.

Sharon is now having out loud conversations with three, I dunno, delusions, shards of her own mind, ghosts? Cameron is supposedly gone after giving her some terrible advice, Nick is like her conscience (LOLOL) telling her to confess and waterlogged, dead Heather is a stage five clinger representing her guilt, I guess. Flashbacks to murder and disposal night remind the audience how fucking ridiculous the idea of Sharon singlehandedly pulling this off is. Confess and enter an insanity plea already.

Billy asks Sally to grab a drink later, and, having lost several IQ points, she agrees. Seriously, she makes the idiotic statement that maybe she and Billy got cheated on by two assholes for the noble purpose of…. having the two assholes play happy family with their kid. Am I taking crazy pills? It doesn’t seem like Connor’s recovery should depend so much on his gross parents’ relationship. Cheating is good if the cheaters get together? Johnny arrives ready to rock, while Adam and Billy have a dick waving contest in front of Victoria. Everyone loses. Adam drives Johnny and Connor to a party, while Billy tells Victoria what Adam and Chelz did. Chelsea eavesdrops, very inconspicuous with her blaze red lipstick.

Sharon flees the house with her new bestie, zombie Heather in tow. She stops at the park to see Aria’s costume, but gets an eyeful of glaring, green Heather instead. 

 

Edited October 31 by NinjaPenguins

[babyhouseman]

1 hour ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Sharon is now having out loud conversations with three, I dunno, delusions, shards of her own mind, ghosts

She'll start speaking to Casper the Friendly Ghost next.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Idk, ghostie Heather seemed just as charmless & humorless as alive Heather.  And her makeup was ho-hum & unoriginal -- obviously based on the girls from The Shining.  Did death make dead Heather's hair go black?

OK, OK, I suppose I can tolerate ghost Heather for 1 ep, for Halloween, but I suspect she's in for the long haul, to hound loopy Sharon.  I thought she was whiny & annoying in this ep.  Campy?  Not seeing it.  What I can see is this bit getting extremely annoying very quickly.

Hey, maybe ghost Cam could vanquish her?

Johnny is such a sweet kid.  He seems so out of place in this wacko/dysfunctional group.  He reminds me of Marilyn in The Munsters.

You know, Abby explaining how she's totally given up planning her wedding to control freak Vic sounded so looney & unbelievable.  Who the heck would do that?  Well, Abby would.  No wonder nobody tells you anything, Abby -- you are really an airhead, hun!

Edited November 1 by ScoobieDoobs

[ezzylin]

Can someone please let me know if I'm wrong, but isn't this stupid ass storyline based on revisionist history? I'm really tired of Phyllis saying that Sharon hates Daniel because if what happened with Cassie which is why she lashed out  against Heather and Lucy and ultimately killed Heather(allegedy). This was not true. Josh Griffith needs to go back and rewatch the old episodes after Cassie's accident. IIRC, Sharon was angry at Daniel before she the truth about the accident came out. It was Nick who hated Daniel and chased him (with Phyllis in tow) across the country and also concealed evidence that that ultimately proved Daniel was not at fault for Cassie's death. In fact, it was Sharon was the one who convinced Nick to turn over the evidence that cleared Daniel. Over the years, whenever Daniel would pay a visit back to Genoa City and bump into Sharon, their scenes together would always acknowledge the sadness they still shared over what happened with Cassie, but it was there never any unpleasantness. Now in 2024, for JG to decide use Cassie's death (which was so well written) as a catalyst for Heather's murder really shows his lack of creativity as a writer. 

I'm sick of the plot holes and other characters being written as incompetent (like Chance and possibly now Christine) just to make Phyllis seem like the smartest person in Genoa City and the only one who can clear Daniel's name, because in addition to being the greatest Mom who has ever existed, she's also a gifted detective, whose skills are unmatched. Her behavior is so cringeworthy and obnoxious that it makes this already horribly written storyline seem 10 times worse. 

[surfgirl]

I zoned out and muted the show tonight. It's literally unwatchable. 

[boes]

4 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Johnny is such a sweet kid.  He seems so out of place in this wacko/dysfunctional group.  He reminds me of Marilyn in The Munsters.

I agree.  He's the best of all the young'uns IMO.  He also was the MVP of today's shew.  I watched, and rewatched, and rewatched again and I'm sure he gave Billy the finger as he exited Crimson Lights main room for the patio.  

Johnny, how do I love thee?  

Let me count thy fingers.....

Ghost Cameron was gross and getting on my nerves but I'd take him any day over angel-faced St. Nick as Sharon's main vision squeeze.  She must always be aware that he's a hullucination since the real Nick never spends that much time anywhere without doing a "Pull My Finger" routine.  And as in life, he does not exude the odor of sanctity as much as the after-effects of a late night stop at Taco Bell.

Connor's got bigger problems if he thinks his parent reuniting is the key to a good life.  

Edited November 1 by boes

[Joimiaroxeu]

And I had a few more thoughts on today's Halloween costumes and clothing:

Dominic in his little newsboy suit* was adorable. (Elsewhere I saw it described as a *Dr. Watson outfit. <shrugs>)

Wee princess Aria seemed a bit zoned out. Too much candy, aka, Toddler Tranqs? 😉

Johnny killed it as Johnny Rotten. He even had the exaggerated British accent down.

Victoria said Katie was going to be a Zombie Swiftie. I would've loved to have seen her costume.

Sharon's dress was interesting, in an 🎶"on a clear day you can see forever"🎶 kind of way. I bet her lady bits would've appreciated some tights or leggings for coverage.

On a slightly tangential note, tonight on the CBS primetime show, Elsbeth, its titular character was dressed up as Holly Golightly from Breakfast at Tiffany's. Coordinated Audrey Hepburn references? Hmmm. 😏

[ASpring1900]

5 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Johnny killed it as Johnny Rotten.

Love him!

Halloween mugs at Crimson Lights? Have we seen these before? I adore the Christmas mugs they use. 

I wish soaps would keep the Halloween decorations up for longer than a day. Over on B&B, the decorations at II Giardino were great, too (thanks, Sheila). 

[MollyB]

12 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

What I can see is this bit getting extremely annoying very quickly.

Hey, maybe ghost Cam could vanquish her?

What I would like to see is Sharon walk into the cottage and see Cam and Heather going at it hot and heavy on the couch.  Now, that's a vanquish.

Friday Rant:

• If I were in a restaurant/bar having an overpriced meal and some inconsiderate former CEO was having a shouting match with her former boss while on the internet, I would complain-LOUDLY.  I realize Lily doesn't have an office, but doesn't she have the previouslyDavon's apartment?  She staying away because there are too many murders in the building?
• Nikki isn't just annoying-she's persistently annoying.  Lily said "no"-deal with it.  Although I do like her look of confusion when Lily brings her up to speed on Viktor's machinations.
• I can't with Phyllis.  She should be staying waaay in the background of this murder investigation lest someone remember her own murder history.  Two?  More?
• What happened to the two meals that were sitting on the table next to Sally and Abby?  There were no customers sitting there the whole time and yet two plates of food basked in the glow of Abby's elation over getting yet another dress by Sally Spectra.
• Jack has not cried enough over his broken life-does this mean it really is a ruse by him and Diane?
• Changing the sofas in the Revolving Door Suite at the GCAC doesn't do squat if you are going to keep that same potted palm in the corner.
• The opening credits showed a busy park and what seemed like children's voices as they ran through celebrating Halloween.  And then we get the postage stamp of grass that was even too small to hold two families at once (or Sharon would not have any room when she arrived).  Lose the park set, Show.  It's just not believable.

[lightninggirl]

OK - I lost a few days because of the show being preempted due to hurricane coverage, but do we know how Heather actually died? I saw the flashbacks of Sharon seeing her lying down on the floor of her apartment with the back-of-the-head injury, but how did she get on the floor? Was she hit over the head? Why was Sharon in the apartment alone (I think I remember her sneaking in, but I don't recall the reason)? TIA for any clarity because I'm not sure if I'm supposed to be confused or not. 🙄😉

[ScoobieDoobs]

Well, loopy Sharon did black out (we don't know why) after Heather fell, while chasing Sharon as she was trying to leave.  Heather seemed to have hit her head.  But before Sharon fell unconscious, Heather got up slightly, was not bleeding, and said, "You must be out of your mind."  But after Sharon woke up, Heather was laying flat & apparently dead & bleeding profusely out of her head.

Nutso Sharon broke into the apartment cuz ghost Cam gave her the idea to poison a bottle of booze.  Maybe to kill Daniel -- or Heather or Lucy or all 3?  Then she thought better of doing that & emptied the bottle with poison, but accidently knocked it over & broke it.  After she cleaned up the mess & was about to leave, that's when Heather walked in.

Sad sack Daniel is a bore.  Yawn.

Summer not pouting?  Er, huh?

Edited November 1 by ScoobieDoobs

[surfgirl]

Dear Mols, please let Friday Rant become A Thing now. Thank you. 🙏 

Edited November 1 by surfgirl

[lightninggirl]

3 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Well, loopy Sharon did black out (we don't know why) after Heather fell, while chasing Sharon as she was trying to leave.  Heather seemed to have hit her head.  But before Sharon fell unconscious, Heather got up slightly, was not bleeding, and said, "You must be out of your mind."  But after Sharon woke up, Heather was laying flat & apparently dead & bleeding profusely out of her head.

Nutso Sharon broke into the apartment cuz ghost Cam gave her the idea to poison a bottle of booze.  Maybe to kill Daniel -- or Heather or Lucy or all 3?  Then she thought better of doing that & emptied the bottle with poison, but accidently knocked it over & broke it.  After she cleaned up the mess & was about to leave, that's when Heather walked in.

Thank you so much, Scoobs! ❤️ I did get as far as the booze poisoning and recall Sharon backing out of it, but that's as far as I got with it before the preemption.

[Joimiaroxeu]

It's still Halloween in GC. Yay.

Daniel, if you start hallucinating while you're knocking back the booze, it may be time to settle up with the bartender and go home. You're already in enough trouble, just sayin'.

I'm glad Claire opted not to continue serving as a nanny. Time for her to use her Ivy League education and begin slowly wresting control of NE from Grandpa.

Tessa and Daniel's budding friendship stays being curious to me.

Daniel said up in Vancouver Lucy wore a Catwoman costume for Halloween. I would've liked to have seen her in it.

Claire realized that Victor was planning a hostile takeover of Abbott-Chancellor. Well, there's definitely going to be plenty of hostility involved.

IMO Victoria and Cole are still buzzkills as Claire's parents, discouraging her from returning to work with Nikki. Let Claire go into the corporate fray if she wants! It's the Newman way, dagnabbit!

Summer was awfully gracious when Claire showed up at the Abbott manse unannounced. She definitely no longer sees Claire as a bother, and I thought Claire almost seemed disappointed. But then Kyle proceeded to give the former nanny's tonsils a good bathing with his tongue, lol.

Daniel declared he's going to hunt down the real killer of Heather. Ruh roh. He better make sure Sharon doesn't find out. Perhaps Ghoul Heather can keep Sharon distracted. 😈

Edited November 1 by Joimiaroxeu

[Waldo13]

What did we learn today other than how hypocritical Victoria is. She absolutely thinks that it will be a big mistake for Claire/Eve to work with Nikki/Victor because they are going after Billy👃.  Then, why does Victoria continue to work for NE?  If it wasn’t for Billy👃, Victoria would be all in.  

 

[Sake614]

30 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

and Daniel is single now (no

Tessa isn’t. And she’s also gay. While I definitely see the chem between them, I’d really like it if they just stay friends. There aren’t enough friendships in GC and anyone is better than Kyle…

[lilmarysunshine]

On 10/31/2024 at 1:22 PM, surfgirl said:

Girl, no! That dress is iconic and has been 'in the spotlight' since the day photos of it hit the news stands (remember news stands?!?)! Yes it looks akin to a slip, but it is a gorgeous style and very modern yet classic, sort of like a modern Roman toga gown, if you will. I love that dress and she wore the hell out of it.

Indeed. That photo of them coming out the ceremony is seared into my brain. Very few women can wear that, I think. You have to be statuesque - a curvy woman would make it look too sexy, I think. It also fit with the venue - needed something simple. 

[ScoobieDoobs]

 

40 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Tessa isn’t. And she’s also gay. While I definitely see the chem between them, I’d really like it if they just stay friends. There aren’t enough friendships in GC and anyone is better than Kyle…

Like I said, Show likes to make couples, while splitting up others.  And we've just seen a one-time encounter break up 2 couples, while not necessarily leading to another couple getting together.  And Show really likes to repeat storylines so . . . 

Also, assuming these writers understand gay is not an assumption I'd make.

Not saying I'd like to see a Daniel/Tessa hook-up cuz I wouldn't -- hope they just stay buds.  But giving Tessa more to do is OK by me cuz she's mostly so sidelined & Cait is a good actress.  I suspect the writers are stumped on what to do with Tessa & Mariah.

Edited November 2 by ScoobieDoobs

[lilmarysunshine]

14 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Tessa isn’t. And she’s also gay. While I definitely see the chem between them, I’d really like it if they just stay friends. There aren’t enough friendships in GC and anyone is better than Kyle…

She came on the show as Noah’s girlfriend. And Mariah was with Devon. I think they are played as bi. 

[Sake614]

2 minutes ago, lilmarysunshine said:

think they are played as bi. 

Initially yes but since Tessa and Mariah have been together, they’ve been portrayed as a gay couple. 

[lilmarysunshine]

48 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Initially yes but since Tessa and Mariah have been together, they’ve been portrayed as a gay couple. 

Sorry. I just don’t agree. I don’t hang onto every word they say but usually talk of their relationship seems to avoid labels. I cannot remember either one ever saying gay or bi with them saying the attraction is to each other. 

[surfgirl]

2 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

Tessa and Daniel's budding friendship stays being curious to me.

I was abounlt to say didn't Daniel have the hots for Tessa before she Dove into the girl pool, but that was Noah wasn't ir?

[Sake614]

12 minutes ago, surfgirl said:

I was abounlt to say didn't Daniel have the hots for Tessa before she Dove into the girl pool, but that was Noah wasn't ir?

Yup it was Noah.

[KLovestoShop]

I wish Victor would retire already.  Seriously, he’s acting like he’s part of the crypt keeper group. And I’m sick of him always going after Jack.  Idiot doesn’t realize that Jack saved Nikki?  Maybe he’s pissed that he was too incompetent to save his wife.  Can you see that jerk being an AA sponsor?

 

Whats up with so many people sporting the Crisco hairstyle?  Clair’s hair looks like it hasn’t been washed in months. Phyllis has that same look, not to mention Nick, Adam, Billy and the rest. But seriously, is this greasy look in style?  

[NinjaPenguins]

A Simple Recap - Inappropriate Chemistry

Like… didn’t interesting stuff used to happen on Fridays?

Daniel is drinking until his vision blurs and several brain cells die, as we’ll find out later. Tessa arrives and gives him better guidance in a half hour than Phyllis has given him in a lifetime of mothering. As others have observed, there’s an odd sort of flirty vibe going on. Tessa cleverly leverages Daniel’s misery into free help packing up the Halloween decor at the restaurant, then gives him a pep talk over a giant burrito.

Summer and Kyle return to the Abbott manse after trick or treating with Harrison, who is dressed like the ghost of his late birth mother. Too soon? Oh shit,  she’s still alive? My bad. Harrison, the most agreeable child in the world, happily washes up before picking only 3 pieces of candy to eat. Summer and Kyle clearly want to trick or treat in each other’s pants and have a jokey debate about which one acted like a bigger piece of garbage. They both sell themselves short.

Claire and her parents enjoy a dull dinner. Claire has decided to give up the glamorous life of a nanny to assist her grandmother in being an entitled, snooty, enabling asshole. Cole is not a fan, and Victoria finally feels compelled to tell her that the job is an imaginary one predicated on Grandpa Ghoul ruining the father of her siblings. Victoria, of course, pretties it up and makes it sound like the real danger is in Billy taking revenge once Victor inevitably wins. Claire promises to think about it.

Summer and Kyle are sharing their personal problems when Claire bops in. Summer seems disappointed, like she had a bouffant blowout planned. She departs, and thirsty for pompadours Claire seems on the verge of tears that Kyle and his ex-sisterwife were having a moment. Kyle plants a kiss on her and the Abbott home disappears in a singularity generated by the potent anti-chemistry.

Summer spots Daniel in the park, and this is the moment when the brain cells he erased with liquor could have prevented his epiphany that he needs to solve Heather’s murder himself. Who knows though? Maybe he’ll like being a detective so much that he gives up designing shit video games.

PREVIEWS - Secret agent Billy smarmily humbles himself before Lily. Victor finally reveals to Nikki what he’s been keeping in the raunch’s capacious crawlspaces. Phyllis rolls up on Sharon like a citrus titted cobra being charmed by an overcaffeinated octopus.

[Joimiaroxeu]

2 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Summer and Kyle return to the Abbott manse after trick or treating with Harrison, who is dressed like the ghost of his late birth mother. Too soon? Oh shit,  she’s still alive? My bad

Damn right Tara's still alive. Summer can take her likely illegal Italian adoption of Harrison and shove it where the sun don't shine. Yeah I said it, come at me, mafiosos. Grrr.

2 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Summer seems disappointed, like she had a bouffant blowout planned.

Sure hope this means Summer was about to pull a blow dryer out of her bag because I don't know in what world someone would cheat on Chance with Kyle. That said, spumors are flying of a pending Kyle/Claire/Summer/Chance romantic quadrangle. So AFAIC, Claire should just go ahead and hop on Chance and avoid the pathetic middleman.

And if anyone's taking a vote, I think Tessa and Mariah are bi women who are currently in a same-sex relationship. Tessa getting with Daniel wouldn't surprise me based on her sexuality; I'd mainly be shocked to see Tessa cheat on Mariah. Something really awful would need to happen between them first.

 

[Sake614]

5 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

citrus titted cobra being charmed by an overcaffeinated octopus.

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Where do you come up with these ideas? And can I acquire them through osmosis? 

[surfgirl]

9 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Tessa arrives and gives him better guidance in a half hour than Phyllis has given him in a lifetime of mothering.

Agreed 1000%!

9 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Summer and Kyle clearly want to trick or treat in each other’s pants and have a jokey debate about which one acted like a bigger piece of garbage. They both sell themselves short.

🤣 They did look like they wanted to do hate sex together.

9 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Summer seems disappointed, like she had a bouffant blowout planned. She departs, and thirsty for pompadours Claire seems on the verge of tears that Kyle and his ex-sisterwife were having a moment. Kyle plants a kiss on her and the Abbott home disappears in a singularity generated by the potent anti-chemistry.

Kylaire are so boring they could literally kill you with boredom. 

9 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Victor finally reveals to Nikki what he’s been keeping in the raunch’s capacious crawlspaces.

Methinks he shows her the 17 tonnes of brussel sprouts rotting in the attic.

[SweePea59]

On 10/29/2024 at 7:13 PM, Joimiaroxeu said:

Alrighty, Preverts: if anyone here was surprised to learn Nate has a heretofore unknown older brother, raise your hand. Bueller? Bueller?

Nate's "new" sibling is named Damien. The demon child jokes will write themselves.

This is bullshit. And Damien's birth parents are supposed to be Olivia and Nate? Complete and utter bullshit.

 

On 10/31/2024 at 11:38 PM, ezzylin said:

Can someone please let me know if I'm wrong, but isn't this stupid ass storyline based on revisionist history? I'm really tired of Phyllis saying that Sharon hates Daniel because if what happened with Cassie which is why she lashed out  against Heather and Lucy and ultimately killed Heather(allegedy). This was not true. Josh Griffith needs to go back and rewatch the old episodes after Cassie's accident. IIRC, Sharon was angry at Daniel before she the truth about the accident came out. It was Nick who hated Daniel and chased him (with Phyllis in tow) across the country and also concealed evidence that that ultimately proved Daniel was not at fault for Cassie's death. In fact, it was Sharon was the one who convinced Nick to turn over the evidence that cleared Daniel. Over the years, whenever Daniel would pay a visit back to Genoa City and bump into Sharon, their scenes together would always acknowledge the sadness they still shared over what happened with Cassie, but it was there never any unpleasantness. Now in 2024, for JG to decide use Cassie's death (which was so well written) as a catalyst for Heather's murder really shows his lack of creativity as a writer. 

You are not wrong. All of this revisionist history is bullshit. It is insulting to the viewers, insulting to the show, and is the evidence of a no-talent hack sinking this ship.

I'm glad I stopped watching. I hope Ed Scott can clean up this mess. When does he start? When do his episodes start airing?

[NinjaPenguins]

17 minutes ago, SweePea59 said:

This is bullshit. And Damien's birth parents are supposed to be Olivia and Nate? Complete and utter bullshit

Damien’s parents are April Lewis and Nate, Sr. They were together before Nate and Olivia, as Damien is older than Natey Nate. April passed off Damien as the son of the man she married after breaking up with Nate, Sr. That man died, and Damien was so devastated he disappeared, occasionally touching base with his mom. He hasn’t been heard from in a while, so, as one does, April asks Damien’s younger half-brother to locate him and mentor him. Bonus: April is not long for this world, so young Nate may need to reactivate his side part missing persons radar.

[Joimiaroxeu]

1 hour ago, SweePea59 said:

This is bullshit. And Damien's birth parents are supposed to be Olivia and Nate? Complete and utter bullshit.

In addition to NinjaPenguins' excellent summation of the utter b.s.-ery, Amy Lewis said Olivia and Nathan didn't even know Damien existed. So Nate can't blame his mommy and daddy for keeping him from having a relationship with his older half-brother. 

I think if this Damien revelation were any more manufactured it would need to have "Made in China" stamped on it. IMO it's great TPTB are giving Nate a front-burner storyline but what they came up with is ridiculous. Meanwhile, where is Elena?

[taavir40]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

. Meanwhile, where is Elena?

Elena was dropped to recurring after she discovered Nate and Victoria's affair.

 

She returns during the 13k episode 

[Denize]

Do TPTB think having an older half brother will make Nate interesting? Even Nate doesn't care.

[taavir40]

Ed Scott's first episode is Monday Nov 4th

[Kemper]

I don't know why they are bringing in relatives of current characters that viewers (at least me) have never heard of and have no interest in. Because Mamie was such a success. They aren't even writing stories/plots for most of the characters they already have. 

I swear, other than a few, it seems that most everyone on the show is "recurring" and not a regular/everyday cast member. They pop up for a couple of scenes every few days. Most everything revolves around Victor, Nikki, Sharon (an epic fail with that one), sometimes Billy, and for right now, Daniel and ... God help us...Phyllis. I know I am leaving people out, but since I don't watch everyday lately, I may have missed people. Places and things, 😃

[taavir40]

3 hours ago, Kemper said:

I don't know why they are bringing in relatives of current characters that viewers (at least me) have never heard of and have no interest in. Because Mamie was such a success. They aren't even writing stories/plots for most of the characters they already have. 

I swear, other than a few, it seems that most everyone on the show is "recurring" and not a regular/everyday cast member. They pop up for a couple of scenes every few days. Most everything revolves around Victor, Nikki, Sharon (an epic fail with that one), sometimes Billy, and for right now, Daniel and ... God help us...Phyllis. I know I am leaving people out, but since I don't watch everyday lately, I may have missed people. Places and things, 😃

It's the budget, only a few people get storylines at a time. Usually it's 3 main ones for a few months then it switches to different ones.

[tanyak]

I guess it can't be considered a "meet cute" since Billy and Sally know each other, but I was rolling my eyes yet also finding their scene charming and funny. Ah, well. You win, Y&R.

Also, a minor continuity quibble. When Daniel and Tessa were in Society on Friday, they made it seem like Halloween was winding down. They were the only two in the place (except for a cook, I guess) and they took down all the Halloween decor. But today, Billy and Sally meet up in a very bustling Society, and we know it's still Halloween -- Billy was late because he picked the kids up from the party. That said, all the Halloween stuff was gone, although general fall pumpkins were still scattered about. 

ETAL: Concerning the budget, that's why there are so few homes at any one time. The only house that is consistently shown is the Abbott house. Even the Newman mansion gets puts on ice every now and then. 

Edited November 4 by tanyak

[pvandal]

I realize there are only what seems to be three or four sets but why do the Romalattis/Phyllis keep going to the coffee house then seem mad/surprised when Sharon, the OWNER, walks in. How about staying away. You won't have to see her. Also, that coffee ain't free. You are putting coins in her pocket every time you buy something. Dumbasses. But then why Sharon doesn't follow Phyllis around with a Right to Refuse Service sign in her face the whole time she's there I don't know.

[Joimiaroxeu]

It's STILL Halloween in GC?!?!?!

Sorry, Billy, Johnny's right. Nosferatu = 10, Dracula = 9.21638.

Didn't Daniel say last week that he was going to stay away from Sharon? Why the eff then does he keep going in the coffeehouse? Stupid!

Looked like Sally and Billy's slow burn is simmering. 🔥

I guess if Phyllis just wanted to provoke Sharon into confessing, literally getting in her face was one way to go about it. However, Sharon has years of dealing with Red's aggressiveness. She won't be an easy nut to crack.

Really, Kyle, you couldn't even button your shirt? This wannabe playboy had to make sure it Summer suspected he was up to some adult things with Claire. But geez, maybe Claire didn't want her personal business put out there like that, Kyle. Jerk.

"Accidentally" leaving your cellphone behind is one of the oldest tricks in the book, Summer. You ain't slick, hon.

Oh please, William, Jaboat was not "the family yacht." It was an expensive toy you bought when you were wilding out as the CEO of Jabot. I doubt the rest of the Abbotts had even set foot on Jaboat before you lost it in a poker game.

Huh, I'm kinda here for Sharon having a restraining order against Phyllis. She might need to have one for Daniel too.

Claire, you little tease. But yeah, it might be better to wait until you don't have the specter of Summer clouding your once-in-a-lifetime event with Kyle.

Wait, no nighty night smooch at the door this time? Gah, Silly/Bally, get on with it! 😉

Phyllis, I don't think gaslighting works the way you think it does. What you're planning for Sharon is called scapegoating.

[Waldo13]

 

You can tell that it’s still Halloween because Phyllis🕷️ is still wearing her costume 😜.  Phyllis 🕷️, Sharon can’t look at you and Daniel not out of guilt but out of disdain. 

Color me surprised, Kyle and Claire/Eve beat Billy👃and Sally to the bedroom.  Maybe not because there is Summer❄️x5 being a cockblocker.  

What is that about Nick?  Are you deft and stupid. You heard Phyllis🕷️ accusing Sharon of killing Heather.  Phyllis 🕷️, who does that?  Phyllis didn’t you do the same thing, kill someone and blame someone else?  Killing yourself and blaming Diane?  How about covering up the killing of your therapist by wrapping him up in a carpet and getting rid of the body. 

I guess Phyllis🕷️’s probation is over.  Isn’t stalking a crime?  If Sharon gets the restraining order and Phyllis🕷️ violates it, isn’t that a crime also?  I’m sure the judge will turn a blind eye since Phyllis 🕷️ will turn the tears back on and profess it was for my child. 

 

[taavir40]

Sharon case said in an interview that this storyline isn't ending anytime soon. She says she shot some great stuff recently including something she's always wanted to do in a scene with Joshua Morrow.

 

Brytni Sarpy also confirmed she's back for a bit. She said it's been really fun and she's working with some new people she hasn't before.

Edited November 5 by taavir40

[boes]

I'm pretty sure I've never said a good thing about Billy Nostrildumbass Billy Abbott since Jason Thompson took over the role.  In fact, I'm positive.

So butter my biscuit and call me late for supper, but I'm going to say something nice now.  Against my will, try as I might to resist, but he was GOOD today in his scenes with Sally.  Good like I've never seen him be on Y&R, funny and charming and lowkey all the way.  Nobody is more shocked than I am.

On all of my previous attempts to try and like General Hospital, at which I failed each time, Jason Thompson's character, Patrick Drake, was one I was always happy to see.   But I didn't think he fit the role of Billy Abbott from Day 1, not at all. But today, with Sally, he was fine.  More than fine.

I can't believe it.

Now the rest of the show was dreck, especially stutterbarking Phyllis stuck on repeat, as usual.  

Edited November 5 by boes

[Joimiaroxeu]

I think one of the main issues with JT when he stepped into the Billy Abbott role is that he was so different from Billy Miller's version of Billy. And unfortunately for JT, BM was pretty much universally loved by Y&R fans. JT had huge shoes to fill and I have appreciated how he basically didn't even try to. Perhaps TPTB wanted, as the saying goes, "to take the character in another direction" and JT has been following their guidance.

Whatever, something new was certainly happening with JT's portrayal of Billy yesterday. I'm 100% fine with it, as long as Billy isn't using Sally to pull some sort of revenge on Chelsea and Adam. Maybe Summer could do Sally a solid and tell her what Billy did when he wanted to pay Phyllis back for cheating on him with Nick. At least then Sally could make an informed decision about whether she wanted to get with Billy under those circumstances.

[Sake614]

9 hours ago, taavir40 said:

Sharon case said in an interview that this storyline isn't ending anytime soon. She says she shot some great stuff recently including something she's always wanted to do in a scene with Joshua Morrow.

Stab him? Wash his hair? Buy him a clue?

[NinjaPenguins]

A Simple Recap - The Pot Calling the Kettle Crazy

Daniel is ready to seek justice, which he stupidly tells his mother. Phyllis figures that gives her permission to stalk and harass Sharon. Anyone wanting to see a perfect example of projection need only listen to Phyllis describe Sharon. Daniel feebly, ineffectually, sort of, kind of, half-assedly maybe asks his mom not to do that. Stand strong, bruh.

Billy and Sally go on a sort of first date. They exchange scandalous stories and bad jokes, and Billy is miraculously tolerable. Well, except for the part where he omits the “fucking my bro’s wife” aspect of the Jaboat saga. Sally tells him about her food fight with Steffy Forrester, who I’m pretty sure is actually the bio daughter of Phyllis and Victor. Sally turns down a nightcap, and Billy gets a quick cold shower with an ominous text from his mother.

Kyle and Claire take their lukewarm passions upstairs, where the sexiness reaches “plunging a toilet” levels. Summer proves to be genuinely useful by interrupting the sexytimes while retrieving her forgotten phone. Kyle reverts to hissing, pissy badger upon being cockblocked. Claire decides to call it a night. Thank you, soap gods.

Phyllis slithers up to Sharon and whispers that she has proof she killed Heather. Daniel watches with his thumb up his butt. Nick lurks outside while plucking his thong out of his ass crack. Sharon dismisses Phyllis and tells Nick she’d like to file a restraining order against the undulating snake lady. Nick proves to be as sharp as a cantaloupe and wants a chance to reign Phyllis in himself. He’s so exquisitely worthless.  Want better, Sharon.

Phyllis, meanwhile, gleefully plans to gaslight Sharon by claiming to have damning evidence. Her kids continue to enable her by not having her locked in an attic. Tell it to the cops, asshole.