Getting to Genoa You All Over Again: Y&R Daily Chat

[SweePea59]

23 hours ago, boes said:

Yes yes yes.  It's bad enough that [Sharon] won't stop talking about it, especially to people who she knows won't buy it, but she delivers her "apologies" in such a way that even I want to smack her. 

Her deliveries and her facial expressions are 1000% insincere. It's like she is mocking them all every mother f-in' time she "apologizes". Which is what, about seventeen times per episode? Is this an "acting" "choice" or is this the way it is supposed to come off? I don't know what to make of it. It's as confusing as whatever the hell transpired in the past regarding fake Amy, fake Damian and fake they-couldn't-come-up-with-a-non-wellknown-soap-character-name Holden? Who will be coming to town next in this Winters drivel? Fake Ridge? Fake Sonny? Fake Patch?

[boes]

3 minutes ago, SweePea59 said:

Who will be coming to town next in this Winters drivel? Fake Ridge? Fake Sonny? Fake Patch?

Any woman who's ever been with Billy, Adam, and especially Nick already has "Fake" covered.

[Snaporaz]

What was even the point if this?  We already knew that Sharon wants Nick, and Adam wants Chelsea, and it was becoming increasingly clear that Phyllis was back into Billy.  If they had given us a surprise and made Nick, Chelsea, and Billy be the ones dreaming (or at least one of them), then that would have been worth sitting through this.  How did Dreaming Phyllis know that Billy and Sally were staying in Dina's apartment, and how did she know every detail of what the apartment looked like?  

[One Tough Cookie]

On 2/15/2025 at 12:57 AM, surfgirl said:

Big Spyh in sexay pron arms? No thank-you sir, may I NOT have another. The bra hanging out. The flappers hanging out. The nightgown schmata thing she's donning. The squirming around on the couch like she accidentally on purpose sat on a vibrator. Just NO to all of it.

Could you come over and wipe the tea I just spewed while I was reading this?

[Denize]

On 2/13/2025 at 4:16 PM, One Tough Cookie said:

she's too busy making sheep eyes at Kyle; so that alone makes me suspect of her intelligence.

They look more like cow eyes to me.  Casting did a good job of matching Jordan's, Cole's & Claire's big round eyes and the tendancy to open them even bigger to accentuate their words.

I thought Claire's resume when she first worked with Nikki said she went to Wharton School of Business (also Ivy League). I wonder what parts (if any) of her educational background are true.

Victor changes heirs to the throne on a whim and has stepped back in and out himself more times than I can count. None of the kids or grandkids can count on employment for life. One year there were 3-4 changes in CEO, including Neil; I always wonder what shareholders think.  And we haven't seen one of their Board meetings, usually with two non-Newman strangers on it, in several years!

[Joimiaroxeu]

5 hours ago, Denize said:

I thought Claire's resume when she first worked with Nikki said she went to Wharton School of Business (also Ivy League). I wonder what parts (if any) of her educational background are true.

Yes, Audra told Nikki her resume said that but other things have also been claimed about Claire's education. None of it may be true but clearly she's no dummy despite having been brainwashed by Jordan.

However, I remember wondering how Claire could've lied about an Ivy League education on her resume. Wouldn't NE's HR department have checked, and wouldn't she have needed to provide a copy of her diploma and/or transcripts? At that point in time it wasn't known yet she was a Newman, though Nikki had sorta taken a shine to her.

5 hours ago, Denize said:

Victor changes heirs to the throne on a whim and has stepped back in and out himself more times than I can count. None of the kids or grandkids can count on employment for life. One year there were 3-4 changes in CEO, including Neil; I always wonder what shareholders think.  And we haven't seen one of their Board meetings, usually with two non-Newman strangers on it, in several years!

Whenever one of the Newmans mentions NE's vaunted position in the business world I just roll my eyes. Imagine if Google or Amazon operated the way NE does, with family members put in jobs they aren't qualified for and the CEO changing every few months. They'd be the laughingstock of the world.

Edited Sunday at 09:49 PM by Joimiaroxeu

[boes]

9 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Wouldn't NE's HR department have checked, and wouldn't she have needed to provide a copy ofbher diploma and/or transcripts?

I would think that the Newman Enterprises HR department is every bit as competent as that Newman crack (as in 'on it') Security team, so Claire probably gave them some 888 area code number to Jordan's phone and she did the verification.

Higher education to the Newmans means auditing a few night classes at Baraboo Clown College and not even completing those.  

And yes, I DID get a glimpse at Nick's resume.  He majored in Squirting corsage therapy and timing his farts to a flugelhorn.  

He ACED it, thankyouverymuch!

[MollyB]

22 hours ago, Snaporaz said:

how did she know every detail of what the apartment looked like?  

Because all Paris apartments look alike and have accordian music playing Happy Day in Paris in the background.😜

 

40 minutes ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Wouldn't NE's HR department have checked, and wouldn't she have needed to provide a copy ofbher diploma and/or transcripts? At that point in time it wasn't known yet she was a Newman, though Nikki had sorta taken a shine to her.

You're assuming NE has an HR department.  They interviewed her (and offered the job) at lunch in Society.

[Joimiaroxeu]

1 minute ago, MollyB said:

You're assuming NE has an HR department.  They interviewed her (and offered the job) at lunch in Society.

Nah, the HR department has been mentioned. And I don't think the resumes would've gone straight to Nikki.

Yeah, Nikki and Audra did interview Claire at Society but didn't Claire sorta engineer that? She wanted to jumpstart a seemingly cozier relationship so she could maneuver Nikki to Oregon.

[One Tough Cookie]

3 hours ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Wouldn't NE's HR department have checked

Don't you remember she was hired after having a lunch with her and Audra and being hired with no investigation?  It seemed like she was hired on a whim.

 

3 hours ago, boes said:

And yes, I DID get a glimpse at Nick's resume.  He majored in Squirting corsage therapy and timing his farts to a flugelhorn.  

And he doubled -majored also  in Pull My Finger.

Edited Monday at 12:41 AM by One Tough Cookie

[One Tough Cookie]

2 hours ago, MollyB said:

 

n/m

[lilmarysunshine]

On 2/15/2025 at 2:50 PM, SweePea59 said:

Her deliveries and her facial expressions are 1000% insincere. It's like she is mocking them all every mother f-in' time she "apologizes". Which is what, about seventeen times per episode? Is this an "acting" "choice" or is this the way it is supposed to come off? I don't know what to make of it. It's as confusing as whatever the hell transpired in the past regarding fake Amy, fake Damian and fake they-couldn't-come-up-with-a-non-wellknown-soap-character-name Holden? Who will be coming to town next in this Winters drivel? Fake Ridge? Fake Sonny? Fake Patch?

To me, SC has been awful the last few years - well before this storyline where someone messed with her meds. 

I honestly think part of it is the work she has done to her face. But just generally she comes across as stilted and wooden and she substitutes darting her eyes around for genuine acting. 

Some of the actor tics are just so bad on this show. I have ZERO acting experience and I swear I could do better. Chelsea thinks if she hesitates a second after proclaiming something and then saying “Adam,” that it gives what she says gravitas. “I have told you I do not want a romantic relationship ….. Adam.”

Edited Monday at 03:53 AM by lilmarysunshine

[Kemper]

I really hate to say this, and I certainly don't mean to be sexist, but. Sharon Case and Michelle Stafford are both terrible actresses. SC was okay when she played innocent heroine and didn't have to emote all that much. MS seems to be deliberately making the choice to be an arm/windmill-waving lunatic. 

I honestly (sadly) cannot think of any of the men on the show who are quite as bad. Nick notwithstanding. He at least can play the nice guy when warranted.

[Joimiaroxeu]

11 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

Some of the actor tics are just so bad on this show. I have ZERO acting experience and I swear I could do better. Chelsea thinks if she hesitates a second after proclaiming something and then saying “Adam,” that it gives what she says gravitas. “I have told you I do not want a romantic relationship ….. Adam.”

Doesn't MCE have some kind of breathing issue? She used to gasp a lot between sentences. Now she just does it silently so it sounds like she's leaving odd pauses.

[NinjaPenguins]

17 hours ago, boes said:

Higher education to the Newmans means auditing a few night classes at Baraboo Clown College and not even completing those.  

And yes, I DID get a glimpse at Nick's resume.  He majored in Squirting corsage therapy and timing his farts to a flugelhorn. 

I see we’re disregarding Nick’s rigorous post-graduate studies. He is a proud alumnus of DUH, THE Douchebro University (The ‘h’ is silent and purely cosmetic). In fact, he was the star knucklehead for the DUH Garbage Apes pocket pool team, shattering school records for most cranks yanked per match. Don’t ask to see the trophy.

In the world of academics, it’s publish or perish, and our Mr. Newman burned the midnight oil and a shipping container’s volume in crayons producing the kind of research that landed him in the C suite of his father’s company. His work appears in such influential journals as Flatulent Academic Research Theories, Petroleum Coiffure Processing, Monogamy Only Restrains Our Nature and Opting Out of Protected Sex.

While Nick did not bring the typical set of skills to the corporate world, like simple math, reading for comprehension and business etiquette, his ability to lob sulphuric tush torpedoes has turned the tide of negations in Newman Enterprises favor. It’s hard to resist the pungent persuasion when the office door is locked from the outside.

Y’all need to come correct on shaming this man’s non traditional education.

[boes]

10 minutes ago, NinjaPenguins said:

In the world of academics, it’s publish or perish, and our Mr. Newman burned the midnight oil and a shipping container’s volume in crayons producing the kind of research that landed him in the C suite of his father’s company. His work appears in such influential journals as Flatulent Academic Research Theories, Petroleum Coiffure Processing, Monogamy Only Restrains Our Nature and Opting Out of Protected Sex.

NinjaPenguins, you are ON FIRE today!  I'm warming myself this cold winter's (NOT that knucklehead family) morning with the beauty of your prose and, of course, those journals dear Nick published in!!

[surfgirl]

2 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

he was the star knucklehead for the DUH Garbage Apes pocket pool team, shattering school records for most cranks yanked per match. Don’t ask to see the trophy.

Yes, it's a rather sticky situation. 

[boes]

1 hour ago, surfgirl said:

Yes, it's a rather sticky situation. 

Classic case of Failure to Launch.

It's the poor parents I feel most sorry for.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Psst, oh Lils, there is such a thing as a private detective!  Have you ever heard of them, hun?  You can actually hire one to get background info on Damian.  You don’t need to ask Vic to do this, & then be indebted to him for doing what he will surely see as a favor, dumb-dumb.

Nikki’s ridiculous smugness toward Lils was annoying as hell.  We’re Newmans, so we can screw you over, lie to you & use you, and because we’re Newmans, you should (of course) forgive us.  GAH!!!!

[Joimiaroxeu]

A new Moroccan vibe in the Abbott manse interior decoration. For the straight-laced Abbotts? Oh Diane, you're hilarious. They are not trying to live in a 19th century bordello.

AFAIC Lily should've told Nikki and Victor to go fcuk themselves sideways with WD-40 as lube.

Kyle, I don't understand why Claire was so upset either. She just had lunch with you and Harrison a few hours ago. Relax, Claire.

Claire insisting Kyle bow down to Victor's dinner invitation felt sus to me. It was like she was using Victor an excuse to exert her will over Kyle. Hmm.

Wait, so Diane and Jack have to vacate the premises but Kyle and Harrison don't? IMO that makes zero sense.

Audra sure looked worried about Nate trying to convince Damian and Holden to stick around GC. Hon, sometimes the best way to get ahead of a lie is to come clean before you're exposed.

Aw, Jack's wistful glance over the Abbott manse living room before he left. It's been a good run, Jackie. The ghosts of John and Dina would want you to embrace change.

Holden's thirstiness. Bleh, not attractive. Calm down, Holden; Audra ain't all that.

[ScoobieDoobs]

Something awfully scuzzy about Holden.  Me smells a stink on him & it ain’t good,  Pretty looks only go so far.  Watch out, Audra!

Good luck Di, updatin’ that musty, fusty old museum.  Why do I think if ya tap one of those relic throw pillows, clouds of dust would pour out?  Ick.  Good setting for Miss Havisham or Norma Desmond to stumble around in tho . . .

Di was joking about avocado green, but even that would be an improvement!

Edited Tuesday at 01:31 AM by ScoobieDoobs

[One Tough Cookie]

7 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

volume in crayons producing the kind of research that landed him in the C suite of his father’s company

C as in Crazy?

What happened to Pissade?  Isn't Audra in charge of it anymore? I

thought Tucker {sigh} gave it to her.

Diane-- you are boring the crap out of me.  What happened to your inner bitch?

[boes]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Aw, Jack's wistful glance over the Abbott manse living room before he left. It's been a good run, Jackie.

I'm with Jack.  Update, fine, I guess.  At least get rid of those silly wizards holding glass orbs - Dungeons and Dragons decor, at best.  And those wing chairs.  But, my taste, I love the bookcase/armoire by the dining room entrance, the clutter of loved objects, some of the old pictures on the wall and generally the look and feel of the place.  Ditto with the dining room.  Those curtains gotta go and maybe lighten the color but don't get rid of the table and chairs.  That look comes naturally to the Abbott home, unlike Victor's fake recreation of a home burned down and long gone.

I remember the "redecoration" of the Chancellor Mansion after Kay died and Billy moved in.  The outcry from the fans ended that pretty fast.  But even so, the place ended up looking pretty cheap IMO.

Hopefully Show will stick with Diane's taste in redecorating being as good as her own personal style is.

4 minutes ago, One Tough Cookie said:

What happened to Pissade?  Isn't Audra in charge of it anymore?

Remember Tucker tried to give it to her but Audra declined.  Then she got Victor to back her as her "silent" partner and he took it over.  Then, he fired her and Kyle, stripped it down for parts and Jack bought those parts secretly for pennies on the dollar.

[One Tough Cookie]

20 minutes ago, boes said:

Remember Tucker tried to give it to her but Audra declined.  Then she got Victor to back her as her "silent" partner and he took it over.  Then, he fired her and Kyle, stripped it down for parts and Jack bought those parts secretly for pennies on the dollar.

I guess this shows how uninvolved with this show lately.  Who is writing this crap? High school students in their creative writing class?

[Chatty Cake]

I can’t make it through a whole episode these days. I didn’t even realize there was a fake and a real Damien until late last week. Why? 
 

[Sake614]

24 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said:

I can’t make it through a whole episode these days. I didn’t even realize there was a fake and a real Damien until late last week. Why? 
 

Cynical reason.?  BTG starts next Monday and YR is beefing up its Black cast to feel relevant.

[Chatty Cake]

7 minutes ago, Sake614 said:

Cynical reason.?  BTG starts next Monday and YR is beefing up its Black cast to feel relevant.

Are you guys going to watch Beyond the Gates? 

[Waldo13]

Face it Kyle, a person can’t be used unless they want to be used. Kyle, you knew all about Victor and how he operates but you chose to join Glissade.  

 

Natey Nate Nate, you only know Amy basically a short while but you’re willing to go to the mat for her.  Basically Natey Nate Nate is helping Amy because he’s really Smugly Smug Smug.  

 

 

[lilmarysunshine]

37 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said:

Are you guys going to watch Beyond the Gates? 

No. From the previews, the acting seems 10 times worse than YR. 

[ScoobieDoobs]

52 minutes ago, Chatty Cake said:

Are you guys going to watch Beyond the Gates? 

They are showing a zillion ads for it during the show, ain’t they?  Guess they think Show’s viewers are a prime target?  That might be a wrong assumption.

The ads make it look like any of the Real Housewives shows.  Uh, no, def NOT for me!  Other than The Red Beast, Y&R is not very Housewives-like — that’s about the only compliment I can give to Show, which has been lousy for quite a while.

But I will say, from those ads, it looks like a sh*t-ton of tacky/ugly clothes, bad hair (wigs), and terrible acting, so there will undoubtedly be much to snark on — if you can get past the yelling & screaming & a cast that looks chock full of zillions of Phyllis clones.  Like I said, not for me.

Edited Tuesday at 01:50 AM by ScoobieDoobs

[Sake614]

1 hour ago, Chatty Cake said:

Are you guys going to watch Beyond the Gates? 

Absolutely! I’ve already set my DVR

[lilmarysunshine]

5 hours ago, boes said:

I remember the "redecoration" of the Chancellor Mansion after Kay died and Billy moved in.  The outcry from the fans ended that pretty fast.  But even so, the place ended up looking pretty cheap IMO.

 

They painted EVERYTHING the same color blue - painted over that mural by the stairs that had been there since I started watching, at least, in the 80s, I think.

If the writing was good, we wouldn’t have the time or inclination to criticize their shitty sets (and lack of them).

Problems run deeper than out-of-date sets. Besides, I am one of those oddballs who likes homes without “updates.” We have an 80s home with a non-open floor plan, judges paneling, and “marble” acrylic sinks. Don’t want to update the time period out of it. 

I really am starting to detest Claire. She is certainly full of herself and dragging Kyle around by his pompadour. This Claire-Victor love fest is nauseating. 

[Waldo13]

5 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Are you guys going to watch Beyond the Gates? 

No, because it looks like a bargain basement “Dynasty”. 

[NinjaPenguins]

Victor and Nikki are, unsurprisingly, awful as usual. Condescending to Lily, lording their win over her and pretending she’s the unreasonable one for not fawning at their feet is some next level entitled asshole behavior. All Lily wants as a peace offering is dirt on Damien? Hopefully once she gets it, she thanks Victor and tells him to get bent.

There is more chemistry between Billy’s nostrils than between Claire and Kyle. Maybe Claire should stop pushing grandpa on Kyle like she’s trying to introduce him to meth. As much as I hate giving Kyle credit for anything, he has vastly more experience with Victor’s terrorizing of the Abbott family than her ass does. Claire’s “I have a family now” shtick is going to become the next Victor’s orphanage story, isn’t it?

Don’t turn thirsty now, Holden. 

[pvandal]

10 hours ago, lilmarysunshine said:

I really am starting to detest Claire. She is certainly full of herself and dragging Kyle around by his pompadour. This Claire-Victor love fest is nauseating. 

You know it's bad when it generates sympathy for Kyle.

[surfgirl]

17 hours ago, boes said:

I'm with Jack.  Update, fine, I guess.  At least get rid of those silly wizards holding glass orbs - Dungeons and Dragons decor, at best.  And those wing chairs.  But, my taste, I love the bookcase/armoire by the dining room entrance, the clutter of loved objects, some of the old pictures on the wall and generally the look and feel of the place.  Ditto with the dining room.  Those curtains gotta go and maybe lighten the color but don't get rid of the table and chairs.  That look comes naturally to the Abbott home, unlike Victor's fake recreation of a home burned down and long gone.

Boes, you and I are on the same page here with this home redecorating of the Abbott manse. I would like to see a lighter cooler toned beige cream paint with light taupe accents. Maybe some classic grass cloth wallpaper and add bamboo roll up shades under the drapes for a classic yet causal modern look. Keep the wood working, etc. And lighter taupey couch with fabric prints for the chairs that carry that taupe along with some warmer colors. It would still look old school elegant but with a dash if modern feel. 

[Chatty Cake]

Why does Michael have to kiss Victors ass? I hope Michael goes to the Abbott’s and tips them off. He also could have pointed out to Victor that Nikki corrupted Jack by being a drunken slob on the night that Victor is so mad about.

Kyle needs to tell Victor that he will seduce every one of his granddaughters that are of age. 

[ScoobieDoobs]

What Vic misses in the story of that fateful night is Jack happened upon Nikki by chance.  She called neither Jack or Vic.  If Jack did not discover her that night, she more than likely would have drank herself to a certain death.  So Jackie did indeed come to her rescue & saved her life.  Quite the opposite of Vic’s perception of that night.

Now, is it that Vic doesn’t know the facts or he won’t accept that Jackie rescued Nikki and he didn’t?  This does give him a reason (if deluded & idiotic) to continue targeting the Abbotts.  And it’s also lousy writing to keep the feud going.

And more dumb sh*t from Vic — still going on how he should’ve kept “that Jordan woman” in a cage.  What a friggin’ stubborn, deluded old loon.  Michael was yes-ing him, and looked pretty pathetic.

Oh there’s Summer pouting & pouting & pouting.  And denying she’s interested in Kyle.  Whatevs.  So Claire is seeing up close what a nasty, unpleasant character Vic is?  Good!  Just cuz you call him Grandpa, doesn’t suddenly make him kindly & cuddly-wuddly, hun!  See him for who he is, Claire — horrible & awful!

[Sake614]

24 minutes ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

So Claire is seeing up close what a nasty, unpleasant character Vic is?  Good!  Just cuz you call him Grandpa, doesn’t suddenly make him kindly & cuddly-wuddly, hun!  See him for who he is, Claire — horrible & awful!

But she’s the golden grandchild! The one who has the power to turn Victor Newman into a kind, caring man who will embrace her twu wuv and pompadour! Victor loves her so much that he’ll do anything to ensure her happiness. Even if that means making peace with his sworn enemy. 🙄

[Chatty Cake]

1 hour ago, Sake614 said:

But she’s the golden grandchild! The one who has the power to turn Victor Newman into a kind, caring man who will embrace her twu wuv and pompadour! Victor loves her so much that he’ll do anything to ensure her happiness. Even if that means making peace with his sworn enemy. 🙄

Plus he hasn’t even been her grandpa for a full year yet and he treated her like crap until she was reformed to his liking. Grandpa my ass!

[Foghorn Leghorn]

The sphinx hairdo on Nikki!! They are sure finding many creative ways with her new haircut!  

Feel like I am back in the 70’s with the Abbot Newman feud.  

[pvandal]

Is it April Fools already???

 

[Sake614]

I mean,it’s a really low bar…

[rcc]

The most exciting storyline is the upcoming new and improved Abbott house! Lol Yes, deserves the writer's award.

[ScoobieDoobs]

What was the competition?  B&B and dead air?  The award shoulda gone to dead air!

2 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Plus he hasn’t even been her grandpa for a full year yet and he treated her like crap until she was reformed to his liking. Grandpa my ass!

Guess it’s conveniently forgotten he used to refer to her as “that Claire woman”?  That’s his usual go-to misogynist reference to women he hates.  What a charmer that Vic is, eh?  And so well written, right?  NOT!

[Joimiaroxeu]

Summer seems to have felt a way upon hearing Kyle was having dinner with Claire, Victor, and Nikki. Does Summer have an issue with Nikki?

Diane mentioned how Jabot used to sell rose-scented face powder. Yikes. Sounded to me like an allergic reaction waiting to happen.

I'm thinking maybe Diane should've waited to tell her husband about the Abbott manse renovation until after the work was done. Jack wouldn't stop being a Nervous Nellie about it.

According to Michael there were spies planted in Glissade before it was sold for parts. Of course there were. Sigh, I don't know why Jack didn't fire everyone and start over when he bought it. He knew Glissade had the taint of Victor on it.

Yo, Chance, come get your sorta girlfriend. She's staying obsessed with her ex and his new squeeze for no logical reason. You could probably distract Summer in your special way. 😍

"I'll decide when the Abbotts have suffered enough!" Yeah, that sounded like the ravings of a lunatic. Looking at you, Victor. Come at me.

Man, those eye daggers Claire and Summer were shooting at each in Society. Everyone duck!

Not a fan of Claire's dress with its giant polka dots. I thought it was too loud of a print for her and she didn't look thrilled to be wearing it.

Hey, Jack took off his watch while he was boinking Diane. 'Twas a miracle!

[Joimiaroxeu]

6 hours ago, Chatty Cake said:

Kyle needs to tell Victor that he will seduce every one of his granddaughters that are of age. 

Heh, I wish Kyle did have the stones to talk such trash to Victor. But I figure he's going to be beaten on that score by Uncle Billy. The only Newman granddaughters Billy hasn't screwed yet are Faith and Claire. (Katie is verboten since she's Billy's kid.) Faith is probably still a longshot since she's fairly young but I bet Billy could get with Claire when she finally gives up on Kyle.

Edited Wednesday at 02:20 AM by Joimiaroxeu

[Joimiaroxeu]

On 2/17/2025 at 6:48 PM, ScoobieDoobs said:

The ads make it look like any of the Real Housewives shows.

Not really. The Real Housewives shows are fairly cookie-cutter, thanks to the proven formula. BTG will have some specific cultural and historical references, right down to the set decoration, character names, and the location.

I don't think BTG intended to appeal to the type of audience Y&R has. In fact, I'd surmise a key part of Y&R's audience is offended by the very concept of a predominantly Black daytime soap.

Edited Wednesday at 02:24 AM by Joimiaroxeu

[Waldo13]

If I was Summer❄️x6😾, I would be insulted. Victor thinks Kyle is good enough for you but not for Claire/Eve.  I still think that Victor had his reservations about Kyle in the beginning of their relationship but I don’t remember it.  One other thing. Since Victor is going hard against Jack, he doesn’t want to put Claire/Eve in harms way. 

Brainstorm Daniel?  The storm would  be no more than a sprinkle.  

 

Summer❄️x6😾 what is your malfunction?  You have Chance eating out of your ***** but you want Kyle back. Now you’re playing the Harrison card 😾😾😾😾.  Daniel is 100% correct. Summer❄️x6😾is very much like her mother. 

 

[surfgirl]

1 hour ago, Joimiaroxeu said:

Summer seems to have felt a way upon hearing Kyle was having dinner with Claire, Victor, and Nikki. Does Summer have an issue with Nikki?

You know what? I'd have an issue, a BIG ISSUE, with my grandparents being okay with their new granddaughter fucking my ex. Yeah, I'd have alot of issues with that right there. IMO, that family ought to be telling Claire that no, it is NOT okay to sleep with Summer's ex husband, and no, it is not okay to expect everyone to be good with that. There are plenty of other off screen men she can go after. These people.

Edited Wednesday at 02:49 AM by surfgirl