S03.E16: Reverse Cinderella

[jewel21]

When Nadine's father comes to town for her birthday, Devon enlists the help of the whole staff to ensure that he makes the best first impression. Red Rock decides to cut the entire OBGYN department and Logan Kim leaves Conrad with the difficult task of letting the residents go. Nic cares for a teenage patient whose condition is deteriorating.

Airdate: 03/03/2020

[jewel21]

Wow, two engagements in one episode? Glad everyone said yes. 

It was nice having the Princess back. 

Red Rock continues to suck. I can't wait until they finally get theirs. The waiting is killing me. 

Poor baby. I hope he'll be okay. 

[Bulldog]

Bell for the win!  I would have never guessed in season one that he would become one of my favorite characters on this show.  Added bonus any time Logan Kim gets a comeuppance. 

Conrad, might be a good idea to see if you can have the OB residents reassigned before you tell them they don't have a job.  (And seriously, what kind of hospital doesn't have an OB department?  Is that really a thing?)

I think I was happier about Irving and Jessica's engagement than I was about Nic and Conrad's.  I really don't understand why those two aren't considered contract cast members. 

Speaking of contracts, I would love to know what kind of contract Jane Leeves negotiated because, I swear, she is missing from more episodes than she is in (and I really like the character!) 

[preeya]

4 minutes ago, preeya said:

"Nothing's been finalized yet"

Logan Kim: What a fukn' pussy. Someone should smack your pompous ass.

 

 

Edited March 4, 2020 by preeya

[Court]

Mina looked amazing in that dress. Dayum.

I don't buy for one second that it would ever be a chief resident's job to lay off residents. Stupid. 

[preeya]

6 minutes ago, Court said:

I don't buy for one second that it would ever be a chief resident's job to lay off residents. Stupid. 

Of course it's not. Under normal circumstances it would be a corporate HR function.  It's (asshole) Logan Kim's attempt at bullying Conrad.

It actually falls under "job discontinuance" and it is much more complicated than just making an announcement and saying good bye.

Edited March 4, 2020 by preeya

[twoods]

I also don’t understand how residents have to “start over from intern year.” Usually you can switch over the following year to the year you were finishing up and there are usually openings at OB since it’s a demanding residency and people drop out. It’s laughable that a hospital wouldn’t even have an OB department when nurseries and NICU are some of the highest revenue producing departments. 

Both proposals made me teary eyed. I also liked seeing Nadine again.

[DFWGina]

I am sure the new baby with issues will lead to the revival of the OB department after it makes a miraculous recovery...

[preeya]

36 minutes ago, DFWGina said:

I am sure the new baby with issues will lead to the revival of the OB department after it makes a miraculous recovery...

↑ Hitting the nail on the head ↑

However, I think the almighty Cain will swoop in and take a shot at the impossible surgery.

Edited March 4, 2020 by preeya

[screengem]

It definitely was a Super Tuesday for the Resident. rating wise

Here are recent week ratings, including last night's  note:  viewers are in MILLIONS

Air date                  18-49   Viewers            change

Tues 01/14/20      0.69         3.914               4.54%

Tues 01/21/20      0.68         4.012               2.50%

Tues 01/28/20      0.70         4.075               1.57%

Tues 02/18/20      0.70         3.934              -3.46%

Tues 03/03/20      0.80        4.795             21.89%

[CoyoteBlue]

13 hours ago, preeya said:

Of course it's not. Under normal circumstances it would be a corporate HR function.  It's (asshole) Logan Kim's attempt at bullying Conrad. It actually falls under "job discontinuance" and it is much more complicated than just making an announcement and saying good bye.

Well, yes, but usually your boss tells you you're being let go and then you have the HR meeting. No one just has an HR person appear with a pink slip. Conrad (Chief Resident) actaully wouldn;t have been the person to do it, even in RedRockWorld - Kim pointed out that the actual OB/GYN dept bosses were out of town on a conference or something and therefore it was getting dumped on Conrad to inform the residents. 

(Okay, I don't know what all the "ranks" are in a hospital, but are they not also letting go of full-fledged "doctors"? Like, I get that the residents are doubly boned because their schooling is getting interrupted, but aren't there doctors who are past their schooling who will also be fired? Is anyone scrambling to get them a new job?)

12 hours ago, twoods said:

It’s laughable that a hospital wouldn’t even have an OB department when nurseries and NICU are some of the highest revenue producing departments. 

Not in RedRockWorld! In RedRockWorld, those damn babies are just money pits!

[milner]

When did Nic become able to make diagnoses and order tests. I know she is a nurse practitioner but I didn’t think they had that much power. She treated that young girl entirely on her own until the situation became critical

[MoreCoffeePlease]

I suspected the step-mom of poisoning the girl IMMEDIATELY, as soon as she poured from the thermos.  

Nic's dress was gorgeous! The way the neckline hugged her shoulder was stunning.

"So I talked to my accountant, and I think it makes financial sense to get married."  🙄

It would have been nice if SHE had done something romantic for Conrad.

The hair blocking the intestine?!? Gross. Pretty bad when even the surgeons are grossed out.

[katalizt]

1 hour ago, CoyoteBlue said:

(Okay, I don't know what all the "ranks" are in a hospital, but are they not also letting go of full-fledged "doctors"? Like, I get that the residents are doubly boned because their schooling is getting interrupted, but aren't there doctors who are past their schooling who will also be fired? Is anyone scrambling to get them a new job?)

Presumably someone else talked to the rest of the staff. At least the show didn't have Conrad giving the news to the OB attendings and the nurses! 

[preeya]

4 hours ago, CoyoteBlue said:

Is anyone scrambling to get them a new job?)

That would be part of the complicated "JD" process. Job search and possible placement in another department before dismissal is the norm; unless the person wants to leave and pursue options elsewhere. In those cases there would be some sort of severance package that would kick in. This is not an overnight process, it generally takes many months from start to completion.

Edited March 4, 2020 by preeya

[vibeology]

The entire "Ball" part of the story was so strange. Devon was late but none of the other guests had left work yet? And the way the show talked about the super expensive ball did not line up with the visuals which looked like some very average conference centre room with very average décor. It's like the show had nowhere near the budget necessary to achieve the look but no one on set thought to change the dialogue. I've been to nicer charity galas and they don't have the budget of a king.

I enjoyed both proposals and thought they suited each couple. I wish Nic hadn't been quite so practical but Conrad turned it around.

I liked the cases of the week well enough. I'm glad is was an accidental poisoning. I thought the step-mom was too obvious so I was worried it was Conner Trinneer trying to keep his daughter close at home.

The hairball was gross but I loved the patient. Julie Zhan gave the character so much life right away.

[twoods]

2 hours ago, milner said:

When did Nic become able to make diagnoses and order tests. I know she is a nurse practitioner but I didn’t think they had that much power. She treated that young girl entirely on her own until the situation became critical

Nurse practitioners can practice medicine and prescribe medications just like doctors. They don’t need anyone signing off on what they do unlike physician assistants. Many offices employ some NPs since they are cheaper than an MD or DO.

[preeya]

24 minutes ago, twoods said:

Nurse practitioners can practice medicine and prescribe medications just like doctors. They don’t need anyone signing off on what they do unlike physician assistants. Many offices employ some NPs since they are cheaper than an MD or DO.

Here's the definitions:

The differences between medical degrees

Confused about the difference between an MD, DO, PA, and NP? You aren’t the only one. Here is a quick primer to get you up to speed.

MD stands for doctor of medicine. It is a designation that indicates someone who has completed medical school. To be an MD, you must finish four years of medical school and receive another three years of training through residency. After residency, you can pursue further training and become certified as a specialist in a certain field, like orthopedics, cardiovascular, neurology, etc.

A DO is a doctor of osteopathy. Doctors of osteopathy attend four years of medical school, complete three-year residencies and can also choose to specialize after their training. The DO training focuses on primary care and emphasizes a whole-person approach to medicine. They also receive extra training in the musculoskeletal system and learn how to provide-treatment for muscles and joints using techniques such as stretching, gentle pressure and resistance.

PA, or physician assistant, is licensed to practice medicine with physician supervision. They undergo three years of training. PAs will often perform physical exams, diagnose ailments, request and interpret tests, provide advice on preventive health care, assist in surgery andcan write prescriptions.Though supervised by an MD or DO, physician assistants are able to operate with independence when making decisions.

An NP is a nurse practitioner. An NP is a registered nurse with enhanced training and education. They can act as a primary care provider to diagnose and care for patients, or they can work in a specialty. Nurse practitioners must have a master’s degree in nursing and a certification to practice as a nurse practitioner.

[KaveDweller]

17 hours ago, twoods said:

I also don’t understand how residents have to “start over from intern year.” Usually you can switch over the following year to the year you were finishing up and there are usually openings at OB since it’s a demanding residency and people drop out. It’s laughable that a hospital wouldn’t even have an OB department when nurseries and NICU are some of the highest revenue producing departments. 

Both proposals made me teary eyed. I also liked seeing Nadine again.

I didn't understand the starting over part either. I would think they'd have to start over if the changes specialties, but that it would be possible to transfer to a different hospital (although it would be like college where you have to wait and start at the beginning of the year/semester.

Granted my knowledge is all coming from ER and Grey's Anatomy, so it may not be accurate. But that seems absolutely crazy to have to start all over. Surely some people training to be a doctor have to move?

[CarpeFelis]

15 hours ago, preeya said:

↑ Hitting the nail on the head ↑

However, I think the almighty Cain will swoop in and take a shot at the impossible surgery.

I don’t see how unless the baby needs neurosurgery as well. Unlike on The Good Doctor where Melendez does every kind of surgery including brain surgery (which REALLY made me roll my eyes), on The Resident the surgeons stick with their own specialties. This show has done plenty of things that stretch credibility, but that isn’t one of them.

[bros402]

12 hours ago, CoyoteBlue said:

Well, yes, but usually your boss tells you you're being let go and then you have the HR meeting. No one just has an HR person appear with a pink slip. Conrad (Chief Resident) actaully wouldn;t have been the person to do it, even in RedRockWorld - Kim pointed out that the actual OB/GYN dept bosses were out of town on a conference or something and therefore it was getting dumped on Conrad to inform the residents. 

(Okay, I don't know what all the "ranks" are in a hospital, but are they not also letting go of full-fledged "doctors"? Like, I get that the residents are doubly boned because their schooling is getting interrupted, but aren't there doctors who are past their schooling who will also be fired? Is anyone scrambling to get them a new job?)

Not in RedRockWorld! In RedRockWorld, those damn babies are just money pits!

Yeah, when they were like "Oh the OB floor is a bad floor, patients can just stay there for days and Red Rock gets nothing!" I was like "...wait, WHAT?" They can bill insurance $40 for a nurse bringing the baby to the mother, they can bill for all kinds of stuff. Yeah, I bet OB does have increased malpractice claims, but that is why doctors have malpractice insurance

12 hours ago, milner said:

When did Nic become able to make diagnoses and order tests. I know she is a nurse practitioner but I didn’t think they had that much power. She treated that young girl entirely on her own until the situation became critical

NPs can order tests and usually prescribe medications - and in some states they can make diagnoses. However, it looks like in Georgia, they need doctor supervision for pretty much everything - https://onlinenursing.simmons.edu/nursing-blog/nurse-practitioners-scope-of-practice-map/accessible/

[KaveDweller]

On 3/4/2020 at 2:29 PM, MoreCoffeePlease said:

"So I talked to my accountant, and I think it makes financial sense to get married."  🙄

It would have been nice if SHE had done something romantic for Conrad.

I actually thought it was a fake out and the financial talk was just a prelude to some romantic gesture. That would have been a nicer way to do it.

[hula-la]

On 3/3/2020 at 8:28 PM, Court said:

Mina looked amazing in that dress. Dayum.

Of course she sews. Yet another one of her superpowers.  

[CoyoteBlue]

49 minutes ago, hula-la said:

Of course she sews. Yet another one of her superpowers.  

Well, at least it's been her thing since day one; it's not like she just pulled it out of nowhere.

[Emily Thrace]

On 3/6/2020 at 9:20 PM, hula-la said:

Of course she sews. Yet another one of her superpowers.  

That one actually makes a lot of sense for a surgeon. They do do a lot of cutting and sewing.

[Paloma]

On 3/4/2020 at 3:49 PM, vibeology said:

I'm glad is was an accidental poisoning. I thought the step-mom was too obvious so I was worried it was Conner Trinneer trying to keep his daughter close at home.

The possibility of the father doing Munchausen by Proxy occurred to me. 

On another note, as Star Trek fans my husband and I get a kick out of all the former ST actors showing up as guest stars in this series.