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I agree. And I think that was (possibly) Jessa's way of asserting a bit of individuality, so hard to do when you're one of a horde.

Wait. So they're discouraged from forming close bonds with their eleventy-seven siblings...and they're discouraged from making friends outside of the family? How terribly lonely.

Thinking about how many more he'll miss fills my heart with glee. And I am not sorry. (At least a few of his own kids' weddings, I'm sure. Yay!)

Because every special occasion in their lives revolves around marriage and babies. So they have to make up special occasions once they run out. The alternative is the endless slog of diaper changing, folding laundry, and cooking creamo casseroles.

And cheering from everyone else.

Jill has to keep an eye each and every one of them. What if they meet an atheist? Or read a book? Or eat something? Any nearby heathens probably got the fuck out of dodge when they saw the Rods descending. I would have.

Everything you said, but this in particular. The cast and the writers seem completely over this show.

Am I the only person who gasped when they saw his arm? I can't be.

Yeah. It's not like she has a child to raise...or seven. (All sarcasm directed at Anna, not at the OP.)

I suspect they're headed for the "classic" triangle, too, but I predict they leave it in this (obviously) alternate universe. In fact, I think they'll do it this season precisely so they can leave it behind in an AU and never mention it again. It's totally on brand for this show.

The recent revitalized "friendship" is such a blatant plot device to up the stakes since Veronica is close to admitting she's still in love with Archie. So transparent.

The perfect description of this season. Plodding, joyless, and ultimately useless. With signing to make it all even less watchable.

Veronica's performance of that song, complete with smashing shit, was...wow. I burst out laughing, meanly. The writers' insistence on giving us more of the musical performances we keep saying we don't want is baffling.

I would bet money that Shrek and Jilly made a big, fat, hairy deal out of not drinking. Server: Would you like some wine? Normal people: No, thank you. The Rods: No, we DON'T DRINK because JESUS doesn't want us to and he SAID and also you need to FIND HIM and here's a cheap pamphlet you should read and GIVE US MONEY to keep annoying people into eternity.

I hope not. Jill will probably apply her makeup with a trowel to attend a black tie event.

Oh, man, I'm struggling over here. On the one hand, he makes some...good points? On the other...this is Jeremy.

Hey Jill: "express your love" by giving her a hot meal every so often.

I think the point was a hackneyed plot device. And really unfortunate queer-baiting. Such a terrible decision.

I saw an interview with one of the writers. At the end of the day they didn't feel like TBK's identity was all that important. It was the construction guy after all. 🙄

Sometimes I gasp when I saw her kids' pictures. Like right now. They look like orphaned waifs out of a Dickens novel! Remove the beam from your own eye, and feed and bathe your goddamn kids, Jill.

Here's some bullshit about Pride month and how LQBTQIA people are going to hell! Give us money! Go piss up a rope, Jill.

Absolutely agree. I wonder if growing up as [x] of 19 hasn't messed up Jessa's sense of individuality. I don't think JB&M had any understanding of who their kids were beyond members of a horde, so it makes sense that they never got anything tailored to themselves. How many times did we see that chocolate mess thing? That's a fine treat if that's what the kid wants, but did every Duggar kid love that thing? I doubt it. Now we see Jessa rebelling against the idea she's not her own person, in small ways like not having cake at her wedding, but she can't do it like a normal person. Other people like cake even if she doesn't, but she seems to have no understanding of how to assert herself as an individual without being completely selfish. It's fine if she doesn't care for cake and wrapping paper, but her kids probably like those things, and it's like she's determined to force her newfound sense of personhood onto them.

If my son introduced himself as a "professional raw dogger," I'd change my name and flee to a monastery in Tibet.

It's funny you say this. This rumor is really going around, and has been for awhile now. It wouldn't surprise me if Roberto thought this was a way to make both factions happy.

Either this or they don't care.