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No one in the cast was slut shaming Daisy. It was people on the internet. I wouldn't consider Daisy a "slut" or anything like that. A drunk maybe but not a slut by any means. I did feel sorry for Daisy feeling that way and I'm never happy to see anyone crying. As I said above, I think she was in love with Colin, and maybe still is, despite what she told Andy. I don't think Colin labeled Daisy herself toxic - he said the relationship became toxic, mostly because you couldn't have an argument or conversation with Daisy, according to him, because she flew off the handle, interrupted and whatever else she was doing last night when he was attempting to tell his version of events. I have no idea what really happened between the two of them. We didn't get Colin's full story (thanks, Andy) and clearly there's a lot of hurt/anger/bitterness that Daisy is holding toward Colin, based on her WWHL appearance, her Insta and the fact that she was making faces and rolling her eyes every time he spoke during part 1. Because Andy couldn't control the room, there were multiple people talking at the same time when Colin, Daisy and/or Gary spoke. From what I could gather, it seems that Colin felt that Daisy was always holding back and not fully committing and concerned about the connection with Gary and broke things off between himself and Daisy in December. Apparently he had a female he had been hooking up with on his boat before he and Daisy hooked up prior to coming onboard Parsifal. I think he indicated that the female on board his boat would never be anything more than a hook up, at least per Daisy, and she was hurt by the fact that she became more than that after she and Colin broke up. So maybe Daisy thinks it never ended or she's hurt because what Colin said wasn't true -- or didn't become true after they broke up. Again, don't know because it wasn't further explored. But clearly, their relationship became toxic and/or unhealthy for both of them. Colin has moved on, Daisy doesn't seem to have yet. Daisy needs to look away from Gary and Colin and maybe find someone that's not on the boat with her if she wants a relationship. JMO.

I watched this one and then immediately followed up with part 2. Add me to the tin foil hat wearers who think Daisy and Gary were in the same hotel. Not just that they were both in "Spain," but because Daisy was doing her Zoom reunion in the bathroom? WTH? Even if the lighting was phenomenal in there, just why?

Yes, Daisy did tell him to stop and that she was with Colin but she also egged him on at times, flirted with him, cuddled him into basically motorboating her, etc. I think she was actually loving the attention from two men and not realizing that it was upsetting to Colin. That and she was drunk every single crew night off. I don't know what she and Colin determined was their relationship upon boarding the Parsifal, since Andy interrupted Colin and we never got the full story, but if he was thinking they were going to really try at a serious relationship, I can imagine how he might have felt going to bed that first night onboard and then finding out later that Daisy got drunk and was making out with Alex. I thought her job performance for much of the season was terrible. She's a good example of why it's not a good idea to get involved with someone you work with. She brought her personal business to work - and I understand it's probably much harder to separate when you live with the people you work with but the guests definitely suffered for it in some cases. And that can affect the tips that everyone gets so it's not just affecting her. I disagree with Daisy that as chief stew she "earned" the right to go make out with her boyfriend when guests are on board and she's technically on the clock. Do whatever you want on your "free" days when there are no guests but when a charter is underway, the crew shouldn't be drinking, partying or making out with each other. JMO.

Far and away, episode MVPs were Chase and his homeboy, Charlie. Loved the scene of Chase silently snacking while you can see Charlie eyeing the food from his backpack. I hate, hate, hate when during a Zoom reunion everyone is talking, screaming, crying, and screeching over each other. I feel like I missed a lot of what happened with the Gary/Daisy/Colin "triangle." Colin is definitely less hot to me - although if he told Daisy about the other woman, and the other woman about Daisy, and both were fine with it, that's on them. And if what Colin was saying was truth and Daisy pulled back and wouldn't commit, well, I guess that's on her now. I'm not surprised that the relationship was toxic. I hate to agree with Gary but he wasn't wrong when he said that Daisy was fine and dandy with interrupting him and Colin but if they attempted to say something over her, she lost her shit. And despite her denial to Andy that she was/had ever been in love with Colin, I think she was lying. I think she's still in love with him and that's why she was so emotional and broke down several times. As far as Daisy shouldering the blame for Gary making moves on her, no, that's on Gary. He shouldn't have done that. However, Daisy laughed and giggled and cuddled up to him and even kissed him. She was sending mixed signals all over the place. Unless the production monkeys were up to shenanigans and didn't show it, she should have told Gary very firmly that she did not appreciate nor want him to do such things and he was to stop it immediately. And if he didn't, report him to Glenn. I understand how Colin would feel uncomfortable and be confused with Daisy laughing it off like it's no big deal. And Gary was clearly stunned and hurt by Mads being Gary this season. She had/has no time for his b.s. - Daisy needs to check in with Mads on how to do that because that's how she should have been treating Gary's advances. I did find it interesting that Gary did not watch the season (if this was from part 1, I apologize, I watched them back-to-back). Chase was 100% correct in his advice to Gary that maybe watching would give him some self-awareness. I'm glad that Chase got his due about being a hard worker and good deckhand. I think Gary probably is a good first mate/lead deckhand/bosun whatever when there are no cameras around. He does seem very concerned about the guest experience. And I would imagine that Glenn would not work with on a regular and permanent basis if he wasn't good at his job. Makes me wonder what might have happened if Gary had been on the boat from day 1 of this season. Interesting that Chase and Ileisha met up multiple times after the season ended - and presumably after she and her boyfriend broke up. Apparently so did Alex and Mads - although Alex now has a girlfriend he's not too jazzed about. Did anyone else think that Colin and Ileisha were flirting? I didn't. I thought they were cute together and had a nice chemistry but I never got flirtatious. Maybe Daisy was trying to throw more shade at Colin? Will be interesting to see if Daisy and/or Colin returns for future seasons. ETA: Andy is the worst host ever. Not only could he not control the participants who were talking over each other but he interrupted Colin's explanation of how the sitch with him and Daisy started and how it was going at the start of the season and was never able to go back to it and finish. Thanks, Andy -- you dumbass.

I didn't think it was possible but your explanation above makes me realize Dom is even dumber than I previously thought.

For the women who wanted a man they just met to chase them, it could explain why they were single to begin with. I fell asleep and so missed this part but Dom actually said she didn't really want a divorce and was hoping by saying so Mac would chase her? Umm, I was actually watching those episodes and girl did not look like she wasn't serious. Never mind the fact that you never put "divorce" out there unless you are 100% serious. I think the experts should have been put on blast for why they would choose anyone, male or female or whatever their age is, who was signed up by someone else. Old soul (ha) or not, the fact that Dom's mother signed her up should have immediately put her in the reject file. And if I'm remembering correctly, because it seems like this season premiered a decade ago, Mac wanted someone closer to his own age so the experts utterly failed on that. Maybe Dom should text Jasmine to ask about styling and fashion. Or at least Jasmine's friend in the red pantsuit.

I fell asleep during this -- kind of like throughout much of the season. Since I watched part 1 just before part 2 started, did Kirsten and Shaq call ahead to make sure they were color coordinated? Gina is a fool because I think Clint is a catch. He's got a great sense of humor, does well for himself and he loooooves Hank. Airris remains Airris. He and Jasmine are proof that no matter how (allegedly) perfect two people are together on paper, if the attraction isn't there, it isn't there. Well, for all those people that supposedly messaged Dom offering money for cleavage shots, she's throwing you a freebie. Girl, if you have to keep pulling up on the bodice of a dress, IT DOESN'T FIT. And whose 1980s wardrobe did she raid for that dress anyhow? It was Godawful. How could someone who got her wedding dress so right implode on a reunion dress decision? Yikes. Note to future reunion attendees: watch Kirsten and Dom for what happens when you choose a dress with a slit up to there. Makes sitting on the couch tricky and uncomfortable. Just don't do it, ladies. Maybe I'll try to watch part 2 later. Maybe not. Just kind of ehhhhh about the season - other than the romance between Clint and Hank.

Yes, Gary is flirting with Daisy but Daisy is returning the favor, at least IMO. She's encouraging him and not fully putting her foot down. She clearly enjoys the little triangle (obviously much more than the viewers are). To me, Gary is being Gary. Same as he's been since Season 1. He wants what he can't have.

Daisy can miss me with her being over the fact that she's expected to do her job. For her to say that if it was truly an emergency, someone could come find her -- isn't that what the radios are for?? So that crew doesn't have to stop what they're doing -- like DOCKING -- in order to come find Daisy in the galley to interrupt her gab session. She is the worst. And Colin enables her by going to check on her so she can whine about how unfair life is, with her being expected to work while she's flirting with Colin and Gary. There was so much build up for Bonnie and . . . nothing. The way she drinks, she's definitely Daisy's sister. And she's right -- Daisy is a dick and she and Gary are well suited for one another. So the two sisters haven't seen each other in three years? Hmm. Daisy did have time to fly off to Anaheim with Gary though. Colin is losing his attractiveness factor for me and fast. Sleeping with Daisy is sucking the hot right out of him.

I wondered about this. The guests are still onboard the yacht, even if it is docking. So why on earth isn't a stew assigned to be upstairs either at the bar or somewhere close by in case they need something? Daisy is the WORST. She's now bypassed Season 1's Jenna in my book as worst chief stew. Glenn needs to rip her a new one and so badly that she legit does run crying out of the room. She's a terrible supervisor for Mads and Lucy, who are both junior stews. I snorted out loud when she mentioned to Colin that she was mentally exhausted. FROM WHAT? Ignoring your radio? Texting your sister? Letting Gary motorboat you? Bitch, please. The sushi on Gary thing was gross and ridiculous. Who thought that was a good idea? Loved, loved, LOVED the scenes of Glenn docking in Bonifacio. What a stunning place. Thanks for the photos and info, @aghst. I didn't realize the guests were shopping in the marina stores. Too bad they didn't go into the actual city. Maybe they didn't have time? Seems like the Parsifal had to be out by 11. Not sure why they didn't get there earlier and give the guests time to enjoy a proper French shopping excursion and then have their Viva Le France sushi (??) dinner (off Gary). I still love Colin - although his interest in Daisy is making me question his logic and sanity. Still love Glenn for his amazing boat skills and overall good guy demeanor. Chase had me laughing with his sailing dance. He has a great personality. Ileisha is continuing to kill it with the food. @Mr. Miner, I agree that Daisy is the least attractive of the females. I think Ileisha is the most naturally pretty, along with Lucy. I know that Ileisha has a boyfriend but I'm not sure why all the guys supposedly want to get with Daisy but are ignoring Lucy.

My biggest frustration with this episode, other than Colin suggesting that Ileasha wasn't as good a chef as Marcos last season (just a rude, unnecessary comment. Come on, Colin!), is that when Colin made it very clear that he needed to be alone to process and sort things out, Daisy was acting like a controlling, possessive stalker. Didn't want to let him out of her cabin, kept shutting/slamming the door (which I'm sure the people trying to sleep appreciated) and then followed him to his cabin and pretty much had to be ordered out. How old are you, Daisy? Give the man his space. Were I Colin, that would have been an absolute deal breaker for me -- provided that sleeping with Gary wasn't a deal breaker. Honestly, at this point I feel like Gary and Daisy were made for each other. They're both immature.

How is it that everyone on Planet Earth knew that Daisy and Gary had sex but Colin? I mean, wasn't that a given? And yeah, I have plenty of male friends. None of them motorboat me so I get Colin's being weirded out. Daisy was absolutely horrendous and inattentive to the guests, all because she was desperately trying to get back on Colin's good side and "repair" his friendship with Gary. Maybe just do your job, Daisy, and let the rest sort itself out? I felt bad not only for the guests but the other crew members whose portion of the tip will suffer for it.

Apologies if what I say is repetitive but I'm too lazy to scroll back up and hit the quote key. @Mr. Miner I don't think Daisy is all that either but I'm a female so I thought maybe that was why. Or maybe she doesn't translate as well on tv -- although she did look good though during the commercials on Andy's Watch What Happens. That's the only explanation I have for Gary because other than his accent (I'm a sucker for European accents) I don't find him attractive in the least. Speaking of Daisy . . . Daisy to Colin: "I don't casually hook up" (paraphrasing) Also Daisy: Drinking tequila from Alex's mouth on night 1 of this season. Or maybe I'm just bitter because I think Colin deserves better. The cynical part of me was wondering if this is purely for tv drah-mah and not realistic at all. I've said this with regards to other BD shows - why do these people think they have to be with someone or hook up during the season? It's six weeks long, please. If you're attracted to someone, maybe pump the brakes, chill out a bit. Being filmed for a reality show (and maybe charter too ) isn't real life. Wait until the season ends and then see what happens. And is it just me or is hooking up now meaning kissing/making out? I too thought the guest's jewelry would be found on the floor, having taken a ride from the sailing. And YES, if Mads and Lucy were going through everything, including the guest's wallet, after being accused of theft, Glenn should have been in there. What if they hadn't found the jewelry and then the guest claimed to be missing hundreds of dollars? Just no. And shame on that guest for not apologizing - at least to Glenn or Daisy - for suggesting that one of the crew must have stolen her goods. Tacky. Loved how the southern ladies loved Chase. He wasn't wrong about them. Hopefully they left a nice tip. Were they only on board overnight? I'm not sure. I dozed off. Bravo, PLEASE, no more shots of overflowing toilets. And we don't need a shot of skid marks in a toilet either. I thought it was bad enough to hear Ileisha getting sick last week but Bravo knocked it down several more rungs on the barfometer. So since Bravo went there, are the crew toilets on a separate line than the other toilets? I would think it would be a nightmare to have that happen in the primary's bathroom, etc. Loved seeing Glenn from the 70s -- that hair! I still don't fully understand some of the "theme" parties. Must be producer-driven shenanigans. At least this one wasn't too ridiculous. Just dress up in 70s attire, play some disco and dance.

Thank you for this. I honestly had no idea. If I was young, maybe I'd be up for doing stew work but it definitely seems that your job is never done so long as a charter is underway -- same with the chef. Is it basically a rule that there is a chief stew and two junior stews? I know that's how it is on the mega yachts we see on the other BD franchises. Seems like the sailing yacht is smaller. Maybe there needs to be a fourth stew. Although in previous seasons, we didn't always see such an issue with the stews being run ragged and the chief stew melting down like Daisy did. At least they got a very nice tip. I'm guessing it goes back to Mads' first talking head where she mentioned she was not particular about who she's going to be with (paraphrasing). Maybe she said something to that effect in person or maybe she just gives off some kind of radar. No idea. She's cute but so is Lucy so I don't get it either (but I'm a female so maybe that's why.) I do appreciate that Colin said Mads and Lucy were basically too young for him and Ileisha has a boyfriend. Boundaries respected. Another point for Colin.

Professional a$$hole courtesy? If I were a guest on a luxury yacht like this I would be a super easy guest as well. Don't need to entertain me, jump through hoops for me or anything like that. I don't expect ridiculously overblown meals, just good food. I'd be happy relaxing in the sun, with a good book. Water toys are fun. No stupid themed parties that the crew must put on. Bring a yoga instructor and/ or massage therapist on board. Let me watch Jaws while on a boat (I'm weird like that) and pop me some popcorn. That would be the best for me. I wouldn't care so much about beach picnics. If I'm getting off the boat for a short period of time, it would be because the boat has sailed to another port and I'm going into that town/village to sightsee. That's it. A seven-course meal with one chef is asinine. Who needs seven courses? And starting at 9 pm or later? That's just asking for trouble . . . or drama. I'd like to see Bugsy be brought on board to get a handle on Daisy's meltdowns. I know some people didn't care for her during her seasons on BD Med but I think she was a great chief stew. I hate to see people cry and be upset so I did feel bad for Daisy in that regard -- and the primary seemed like he was a high maintenance jerk but the planning and scheduling just doesn't seem to be done correctly. If the guests are departing to go for a stupid beach picnic, wouldn't it be the deck crew that could afford to send two people? I guess the cabins aren't cleaned until dinner? Of course depending on the number of guests, that seems a difficult chore when stews are needed to serve dinner. Seems like maybe cabins should be getting cleaned when the guests are out on excursions or in the water or something like that. Yeah, they'll come in and trash the cabin but they're going to do that anyway. Either that or maybe they need a fourth stew who is only going to do laundry and jump in to clean when necessary. Yay on my man Colin for telling Gary like it is. I felt for Chase when Gary told him 3:30 and then wrote something different on the board and made Chase look as though he was the one not paying attention. I think Gary knows his job but he's just a shit leader. And terrible for having the attitude that the entire crew, the guests and everyone else can wait because when he wants to have a smoke, he's going to have a smoke. That's not how it works when you're in the customer service industry, Gary. Colin clearly knows that and was 100% correct in calling him out. I don't think Colin was attacking Daisy. I think he was defending Glenn and trying to calm the waters (no pun intended). Getting feedback is a good thing so that you can fine tune or correct anything you need to. Daisy needs to make a list, get her scheduling down and stop worrying about how uncooperative Gary is, having to serve Gary when the guests request him for dinner, etc. Eventually Gary and his ego will dig himself into a hole all of his own doing. She needs to do her job, supervise Lucy and Mads, and let him. Still love Colin.

Maybe it's just where I'm from but when playing Truth or Dare (as kids, BTW), didn't you choose truth or dare before you knew what the question or the dare was? Anyhow, I agree the spit swapping was juvenile, forced -- and gross, TBH. I've noticed this every season so why would this be different but anytime Gary is complaining about a deckhand's work ethic, he's always on a smoke break. Stay classy, Gary. Colin is 100% right that if Gary were a proper supervisor/boss, he would get Chase in line and Chase would be a fantastic deckhand. He would also realize that he was out for the first two (?) charters and so Chase and Alex had to make do on their own with Colin occupied by the engine so stomping aboard the boat and barking orders and demands without actually having a crew meeting and discussing things is counterproductive. I can't imagine that the owner of the boat (and the boats in the other BD iterations) aren't cringing watching a bunch of drunk, hungover and usually horny "crew" caring for their vessel. Definitely a safety hazard but so far only Colin and Ileisha (sp?) have managed to control alcohol consumption and get decent sleep so they can work the next day. I still love Colin with the fire of a thousand suns.

I agree. I was actually rolling my eyes and feeling ick over the exchange of spit between multiple crew members. And Daisy, here is why you aren't married and with kids -- you act like you're 21, you get shit-faced every single crew night out and make out with whoever is in the hot tub with you. I said this at some point last season and I'll say it again -- Daisy may ultimately be a good chief stew but she's very unprofessional, at least IMO, to be getting drunk like that, and every single crew night out, in front of the people she supervises. As far as Ice-Gate goes, I'm Team Glenn on this one. Even if there had been a half dozen buckets of ice on the tender, Daisy should have just brought more ice and then pointed out the ice already on board once she got there. To argue with Glenn and then go down there to point out where the ice was bordered on insubordination to me. And it could look embarrassing to Glenn if the guests overheard him asking her to bring ice. Provided they were sober enough to remember it, that is. Although (most of) the guests came through in the end with the tip (and I do give those guests credit since the only excursions we saw were a ride on the tinder and a beach picnic -- yawn -- why didn't Daisy arrange some shore excursion or massage therapists, manicurists, yoga instructors, etc. to come on board?) , they were pretty disgusting, especially with the cabins we saw. Are they actually that gross or were producer shenanigans involved? I mean, if you got blood all over the bedding from . . . whatever . . . wouldn't you let one of the stews know before they came in to tidy up your cabin? And while it would be very, very disappointing to never get off the dock if your vacation was supposed to be about sailing (and that could have happened with the weather, if not an alleged engine failure), I don't buy the one guest's teary whining to Glenn about how it was her worst vacation ever. Bitch, please. You were with friends and other than your whining, you seemed to be doing just fine. No one got sick or hurt (which is a win in itself given the drunk falls we saw) so buck up, kick in your portion of the tip and go home. I'm on the fence with the engine drama -- is it real, is it not -- but it does seem convenient that the engine is out while Gary is off somewhere with COVID and Parsifal has a new/green deck crew. Fortunate for them, with the engine being out, they aren't stressed too much - other than dealing with drunk and horny guests. I still love Colin. Seeing his glee over the engine starting was everything. And I was happy he didn't participate in hot tub drinking and snogging and actually used the good judgment to go to bed since the following day was an important day for a sea trial - unlike everyone else (but Glenn and Ileisha, that is.)

Bad enough these charter guests were chugging champagne and alcohol like a sailor on leave (and one even fell off her chair twice during the same meal) but good Lord, did no one teach them how to chew with their mouths closed? Ugh. Thrilled to see Colin and Glenn back. My love for both remains -- although if there is some Gary/Daisy/Colin triangle, I may have to rethink that. Please no. Let Colin remain the sensible one. So far the chef appears competent. Her food looked very good. Disappointed that one of the stews -- Madison? -- said she had no standards when it came to men. Well, I guess she's on the right show then. Paging Gary!

Girl, me too. I loooove that scene. Sears deserves it after stupidly telling Keith that he set Steve up and then acted like Keith was going to high-five him or something. And of course Muntz will take Steve's side -- Steve let him have his Moon Pie!

Re Brenda v. Ohhhndrea, I feel exactly the same. I don't understand why Brenda getting married at 18 is so horrifying yet Ohhhndrea getting married at 18 (newly 19, tops) is awesomeness. For further points toward Brenda, at least Brenda wasn't pregnant. She and Stuart were engaged because they were (allegedly) in love. And note to Ohhhndrea: If your heart isn't into your wedding, then maybe you shouldn't be getting married -- whether your parents are onboard or not. On this point and @atlanticslide's above, I do think that Brandon and the other Hillsters who pitched in and helped at the Pit should have been given credit for keeping it afloat. Were they ever? Seems like it was just understood they would help out and then Dylan got all the credit for saving the Pit. Excellent suggestion. That would have worked fantastic. But the writers really seemed to dislike Ohhhndrea and love Brandon. 100%. West Beverly Ohhhndrea was not like this at all. It made zero sense. Given that GC got pregnant before S4 began filming, I think, maybe have Ohhhndrea go off to Yale. The show could have her phoning back to talk to the Hillsters (that way no shots of her midsection) and then have her pull a Brenda after GC has the baby. She comes back home from Yale because her grandma was sick. Or because college is WAY different than high school and West Bev valedictorian Ohhhndrea couldn't cut it at Yale. It happens. And it would make perfect sense for Ohhhndrea to be grappling over that and having to "downgrade" to CU. I also think it would have been great to have her move into the beach apartment with Kelly and Donna and put her more into the mix of things. The show basically trashed Dan by having him be a nasty racist. I get that the writers didn't want Ohhhdrea to get pregnant by the first man she slept with but maybe just have her realize that while she lusted for him, she wasn't in love with him. He was older so maybe have him start pushing for exclusivity and it freak Ohhhndrea out. She's only 18, 19 tops, so it would make sense that she's not looking for a serious, serious commitment. But the show basically did the same thing to Stuart so what can we expect? The show really missed the mark here and a great opportunity. Since I am rewatching Season 4 now, I believe the fact that Ohhhndrea used a condom every time but once -- and bam! pregnancy -- was almost a throwaway line. Not one of the Hillsters said anything like "How did this happen??" Yes, it's a dumb statement but it's also something that would pop out of your mouth without thinking, especially as an 18 or 19 year old. And most especially given Ohhhndrea's stance in high school about condoms. Honestly, the show tried to make it seem like Ohhhndrea's pregnancy reveal was an actual shocking reveal. But it wasn't, given that GC herself was pretty obviously pregnant. I think it would have played better if there had been a scene where Ohhhndrea and Jesse made note of after the fact, no birth control was used. Then maybe they could have used that to introduce their opposing stances on unplanned pregnancy. Having rewatched this episode over the last few days, I was surprised that Kelly would hang out with Ohhhndrea in her dorm room, nosh on Chinese food, and then leave. I would think that Ohhhndrea would be in a very depressive place -- freshman, unplanned pregnancy and apparently broken up with her boyfriend/baby's father. Why didn't Kelly invite Ohhhndrea back to the beach apartment to spend the night? Donna and David could have been told she was feeling down over a break up with Jesse, nothing else. Then we could have seen Ohhhndrea awake all night, writing a pros and cons list of having the baby/not having the baby (because that would be so like Ohhhndrea) and then informing Kelly in the morning that she had changed her mind. I just had a hard time buying that five minutes after Kelly leaves the dorm and Ohhhndrea talking to the baby that she said aloud wasn't actually a person and then Jesse showing up that she would do a 180 and change her mind.

So I am rewatching Season 4 now -- don't judge, it's a great stress reliever for me. I'm just going to focus on Ohhhndrea, since I've gotten up to her wedding episode (halfway through, fell asleep last night before the courthouse nuptials actually happened.) So whose dog did Gabrielle Carteris run over in the wardrobe department? Jeebus. Even before her pregnancy started showing, what wardrobe did to her is just absolutely unforgivable. If nothing else, give her a big stack of books or a massive notebook or something. After all, Ohhhndrea is (was?) an annoyingly dedicated student. Or put her behind a desk, behind a plant, anything. But the blazers they are putting her in, or the Lumberjill shirs, aren't doing it. It's laughable to watch an episode where she's bemoaning Dan Rubin and I'm thinking, girl, you've got bigger problems at hand (mainly the two-year-old in your belly.) Okay -- GC is very petite and clearly pregnancy started showing on her very quickly. But they didn't need to dress her like a 50-year-old or in maternity equivalent wear -- come on! And all these years later and after God knows how many rewatches, I am still PISSED that Ohhhndrea dropped journalism like David dropped sobriety upon seeing that little wrapper in Howard's desk at the radio station. Are we supposed to believe that she would fall apart and give up because she had to write a critical review of the Peach Pit? No way! Come on, show. Give us (and Ohhhndrea) some credit. And then she actually writes the review but has to walk it over to Josh Richland and then deny him the apparently pleasure of reading her hatchet job on the Pit? Nope. Uh-uh. Not happening. Never, never, never during her time at West Beverly did Ohhhndrea EVER show interest in anything other than journalism. Maybe some vaguely political things but it was always journalism; writing and editing. Why, why, why did the writers decide to move her to pre-med? Had they already decided to write GC's pregnancy into the plot and thought it was more edgy or tense to have Ohhhdrea and Jesse be pre-med and pre-law and having a baby? If so, FAIL. If Ohhhndrea were working at The Condor, she could have written a real accounting of being a freshman, being independent for the first time in her life and finding herself pregnant. She could have written some kind of expose on the student health services, on the clinic she visited, on discrimination against students who are parents. She could have written about the decision to give her baby up for adoption (if the show had gone that route). She could have written about the realities of a teenage marriage and the realities of trying to be a college student while caring for an infant. I mean, did we once hear Ohhhndrea and Jesse bemoaning a lack of finances? Ohhhndrea wasn't working until maybe S5? and Jesse is supporting both of them plus a baby while they are both in school and they never once had their lights turned off or forgot a car payment or had a check bounce (remember those?) at Ralphs? And speaking of, somewhat, that -- are we honestly supposed to believe that Ohhhndrea still managed to fully keep up with her coursework? Although I guess if we were supposed to believe that David decided during his junior year at West Beverly he was going to graduate with Donna and did it, well, okay. I also noticed that when Brenda got engaged to Stuart and then took off for Vegas, Ohhhndrea was among the group who thought it was incredibly stupid of Brenda. Okay, so maybe it was but not one single person thought Ohhhndrea had lost her mind in having a baby and getting married when she was 19 at most and still in her freshman year of college? Everyone acted absolutely thrilled for her - which is okay face to face but you would think privately they'd be commenting on WTF was she doing. I just really hate that the pregnancy/marriage put Ohhhndrea into a corner the writers couldn't and wouldn't get her out of. It would have been great to see her working at The Condor, as well as maybe not being the smartest kid in class a la West Beverly. The show did her a horrible disservice. I was also surprised that she wasn't interested in the sorority -- as well as Ohhhndrea. And aren't you actually expected to live in the sorority house? I was never part of a sorority during my college years but that's always been my assumption. How are Kelly and Donna part of it when they live in the beach apartment (other than when David is sporting his Beret of Addiction, that is)? That comment from Steve was especially harsh. Was that when she was competing against Laura for the part in the play? If so, he was clearly biased -- and stupid to date and help a clearly unhinged chick who had accused him of date rape. Regarding Shannen, I thought I had heard that the Univ of Minnesota storyline was written for her in case they couldn't come to terms on S4.

So is there no reunion show for this season?

I didn't know that about pineapples either. I'm not going to speculate about whether or not Airris is gay -- I thought he was a player who was used to one-night stands and maybe has more interest when the woman has zero interest in him. I will speculate about his cousin though. She seems WAY too interested in the whole thing (despite saying she wasn't coming to the housewarming party because she wasn't going to support the marriage, while saying it on film for MAFS). In fact, IMO, she sounds more like a bitter ex than a cousin.

Reposting without a spoilery spoiler: Exactly. If 25 is too young, why did the "experts" choose her? 25 isn't necessarily too young to be married but Dom is most definitely too immature. What should have given the "experts" pause was that Dom herself didn't apply and her mother did for her. I think she was okay with Mac until first, she saw that he wasn't nearly as adventurous as her and second, that he lives in a basement apartment. Because Dom seems to be operating on a 14 to 16-year-old's level, it's like a teenager who loses interest in a guy based on the car he drives or where he works. She's incapable of seeing who and what Mac is really about. He may not be the greatest but she'll never know because she's out. On paper, Clint would probably have been a good match for her. He's older, established, outdoorsy and adventurous. Dom only wants a sugar daddy anyhow -- unless of course her mother told her she wants something else. Good riddance. I hope never to see Dom on my tv again. Chris and Nicole's housewarming party theme was super cute. Clint and Gina appeared to be getting along but I have to wonder if it's real or for the cameras. Maybe if Clint would let Gina trim and shape up his hair? Airris's cousin can miss me with her assessment that Jasmine is fake. If Airris listens to her, the relationship with Jasmine will end sooner rather than later. Other than Chris and Nicole, I'm thinking only Kirsten and Shaq stand a chance - a very small chance. So was the couples' potluck a producer gimmick so that everyone would be present for Dom and Mac to announce their divorce? (And can't they get an annulment? ) Mac was very diplomatic in saying that he and Dom decided together to divorce when it was clearly her decision - and she didn't hesitate to throw him under the bus. Interesting that none of the other couples mentioned seeing anything concerning (belittling, etc.) on the honeymoon. And while Nicole may be right for other couples to try to work it out, she needs to let this one go.

I think Frasier is not assertive enough in his position as chief stew and tries to be friends with everyone, as well as doing things himself that he should delegate and not following up on things he should. However, Sandy's taking him to task in front of everyone is wrong on every level. He is not the cancer of the boat. That "honor" apparently belongs to Alyssa, who I was wrong about. She has an attitude, which has become downright terrible since Camille was fired. Yes, Frasier should have put her in check immediately but that does not make him the root of all evil. I do think it's wrong that Hayley and Alyssa were lounging around and tanning themselves while Frasier and Tyler were working - unless I missed something. Tyler is a fantastic worker with a great attitude - but please NO MORE TWERKING! Katie continues to be a crash dummy in training. Loved how Frasier's mom called him Poppy. So cute! Will Captain Sandy fire Alyssa right before a new charter? Will Camille get the last laugh?