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Also, oddly I don't remember seeing anyone comment on this...Major kidnapped Chase's brother and is indirectly responsible for his death. Revenge?

I still hope that Chase Graves will turn out to have a wife and twin two year old boys/girls and support the cure, because it would be unexpected and they need more allies and he wouldn't necessarily need to die soon. Yeah, they will watch Ravi and the zombies from Filmore Graves will come to the apartment or morgue and it will get ugly.

Chase Graves raised the gun and started shooting at the end, I didn't see him pulling it out of a holster/pants/pocket...so he was talking to the mayor prospect while holding a pistol. It does make it look like he may have been waiting for something or it was really sucky fight choreography. I think he was speaking softly to Liv because there were humans present at the event, although it seemed odd to me they were having that conversation there at all. I have liked Liv with her romantic partners, even Drake, but I think there is too much going on for a thirteen episode season and we've established that Liv likes boys and is successful in the dating scene, we could see her, say, supporting her platonic relationships more. Also, if the love interest had remained primarily Major's contact we could see more of Filmore Graves from the inside, which is pretty interesting at this point. It might be interesting to see Liv and Ravi working together in the lab, more, too. Blaine, by himself again, Boss back... In general, with such a short season they are spreading people thin, not combining them. Like spreading peanut butter, but we are left with less bread this season and now less peanut butter per bite. That's an awful metaphor, isn't it :-) Speaking of...did the brains used to come with the detailed information dump? A little physical stuff, sure, but actual languages (not even just a phrase rising to top in a time of stress) and passwords and the memory of all of the hit rolls/die moves? Because the fact that this guy spoke Russian and knew a lot about the power grid could have been useful information before they found the actual secret room, and she apparently had the information. I also would like Liv learning to actually be a cop, since she is acting as one. Can police just pick random partners out of thin air? Occasionally the medical examiner working closely with them would be justified but this is getting to the point where it is looking really fishy. Like Veronica Mars, the way a PI operated was totally in violation of privacy and the constitution, this seems pretty fishy, too.

I loved Clive in that game, too. They didn't solve the case. The fbi took over and she didn't trust Clive with who they 'liked' for the murder, so they haven't solved it, either.

Dorian Gray was kind of pointless? He had a great opportunity and wasted it on petty debauchery? The resurrected male and female corpses are shown naked and full frontal, though, which is something.

I think Dohring skewed young looking in Veronica Mars which meant he often seemed older than his years, which helped the character. Now I think he looks exactly his age, even older than his age, in hollywood terms, compared to a lot of actors who tend to start out as pretty boys. Maybe that's just me. The extreme thinness, while it shows off his bone structure, is unnerving to me. There are some angles where he looks two dimensional. So far I'm OK with the tiny bit of his acting that we saw. She still may show up, we did see zombies returning from the dead a lot in this episode. Chase may even turn out to be a papa bear, or something, and be looking for a cure. Time will tell.

Although I'm way late with this, that really is in line with the books. Eventually the wolves, witches, a necromancer and so on form a kind of UN organization, more of a club, really, but even that is pretty small. The sorcerers, male witches (very much at war with the women), have cartels that are big, have many minions, and a fair bit of power. They become important players in the books and interact with everyone to some extent, but because of their rogue members, but the books that concentrate on the werewolves, not so much. The Supernaturals are thin on the ground and mostly keep to themselves.

The Romero movies made zombism a class war thing, and originally this show fell along that line. Only the rich could survive as zombies, by feeding on the brains of the poor and disenfranchised. Bit of the old drug dealer/crime cartel thrown in for spice. Oh, yeah, and the couple of people who can become medical examiners or gravediggers quickly enough to bypass the money aspect, and they try to do good. Now we see the Filmore Graves people, families, children. They aren't evil, but they are dependent on human brains. If there is an apocalypse, they die, too. Once the brains run out, the zombies go the way of the dinosaurs (ummmm, zombie dinosaurs). It does seem like a lot can go wrong for all concerned.

I realize I'm talking back in time. Hi! The shadows are then only wrong if they come first! then.

Oh, real world logic. I wonder if the return of Chase (Savage, is it?) will mean we will learn the problem is not small and contained. Max Rager, like Coke, may well be an international brand!

I seem to remember that there was some dynamic where people could be on shows for a certain number of episodes and then they had to be paid benefits, it became common to have people do six episodes in the fall and six in the spring, making it seem like their character was around a substantial part of the show. Does that still apply? It might be one reason to fridge Andrea Savage, at least for the rest of this season?

Interesting, I'd been merrily assuming this was just to throw a spanner into the works and precipitate the Zombi/Human tensions. But who would they be trying to fool? Chase would be my guess. What has Chase been doing? He clearly dresses like a military type. Is he a merc who just happened to attend the company picnic, has he picked up the training since then? Has he been planning a takeover with some backing from the army on site and is this a way to get him to play his hand? Or did he arrange for the helicopter to blow up so he can take over (tensions are increasing and he thinks discovery day is going to be sooner rather than later). I think there is a good chance she survived and will draw Major into it (he is oddly loyal and obviously attracted enough to what she has made to stay in it even when he doesn't have to and it is dangerous for him). I think we'll find out soon, but maybe not until the cliffhanger at the end of the season, since it has been renewed.

I see that Liv would feel she would have to move on and major as well. They have no idea about rezombing, if in fact that is what has happened. I also would like to see more female characters in the group.

I liked the picnic scene with the lawn darts, but the rest of the Jackass stuff was kind of dull. I really got the warm family feel of the Filmore Graves wake, so Chase is really going to be quite a downer, isn't he? I wish Blaine had dumped more cement on top of his Dad, leaving him alive just doesn't seem socially responsible. What if Timmy falls down that well?

I like the actor and he has a lot of charisma but neither Lucifer nor Crowley seemed to be going anywhere as characters and repeated the same plots over and over. AND the boys were just kind of nasty to him all the time when it seems like they should, oh, you know, acknowledged that he was their shady little buddy. I don't begrudge them their paychecks and hope they also are having careers in productions of shakespeare and small independent films. I may be hallucinating but hasn't Crowley pulled that rat trick before? Maybe if they didn't kill off all the female characters consistently they'd have some different people to liven things up.

Well, yeah. also he was always represented as a really poor, poorly liked boss in hell. That got old.

You are correct on all counts. I also realize that, although I am female and try to be sensitive to these things, I grew up reading stories that had very few women or female protagonists. I enjoy them, I get defensive of strong ones, but I am, perhaps unfortunately, able to take the male point of view in a story and not worry about it overmuch.

I think, if I am not mistaken, that the librarian's head was on a man's body. Posed in, etc. I think it could be argued that Gordon and Albert and Denise were always like that, it just seems more noticeable now. I think you can also, potentially, argue that Bob is a male predator. That this is a continuation of something that was made 26 years ago and has to make some connection with the past. However, you do make some excellent points. Most of Lynch's work does take place some place in the neo 50s where 40s Noir went to live out the remainder of its life in the style to which it had become accustomed. A lot of the characters are misogynistic, a lot of the women are victims and the butts of jokes, men dressed as women survive by making themselves the butts of jokes. I see your point and will try to figure out, as I watch this, what could be done better.

I thought he was setting up a story of the black lodge having a larger sphere of influence than actually thought and showing us a story similar to the first one, the twin peaks LP murder, happening today, while showing the weight of what happened to Cooper and teasing us will old places and old people, but not giving them over at once. I suspect the fbi and cooper will turn up in twin peaks and that is when we will rediscover it, they just aren't there yet.

Don't take this as a challenge, I'm actually confused by what you mean by his sexual politics not aging well? Except for Ben, who one might guess had been schooled by Audrey during the intervening years, it didn't really come up. He did kill a named professional woman who we never saw alive, the neighbor was a ditz, a woman of color was a prostitute whose empathy went only so far and no farther, the wife cheated on her cheating husband, etc, but the men don't come across any better in my opinion. In the first one the women had some pretty strong roles, give them a little time to see if that happens again.

Dark Cooper had made arrangements to stay outside the dark lodge, Dougie was that arrangement. He wasn't human, he was some sort of homuculus and once he entered the dark lodge he fell apart like a cheap suit in a monsoon.

I loved the music, the interesting songs and the interesting bands and the noise in the black lodge, New York, the glass box, the static that indicated the spreading presence of evil. (and while they approached the glass box in New York I almost turned off the sound because it was so grating, but I didn't because I knew there had to be a reason). I like that the speakers spread evil, like propaganda and bad political agendas, and that they are, of course, things that are everywhere. I liked that we got the pretty coherent and engaging murder mystery, similar to the first Laura Palmer mystery, to tell something like the history without exposition. I liked that Dark Cooper and Light Cooper, looked like sufficiently different people, like the picture of Dorian Gray, Dark Cooper seems larger in size, as if he has kept growing like a lizard. I liked that the people we met in Twin Peaks haven't changed all that much, I liked that Ben's assistant was a little bit like Audrey in appearance, and that Ben of all people chewed out Jerry for Sexism. I liked that Jerry still focuses on food. The arm/tree was odd, but I suspect that the arm will be a recurring theme. I wonder if the tree will gain ornaments, because how cool a product tie in could that be? I like that there are still places, like the diner, that are still to be explored. I was happy the log lady managed to do some filming.

South Dakota, also kind of creepy? I think the first shows were to tell us that the evil has spread, the black lodge (etc) is not just a weird wood and an oddness in Washington, but it is evil that can get everywhere.

Of course the movie was funded by fans and it is the only Veronica Mars episode/book that is structured like a romance, and the fans wanted it and deserved it, since they funded the movie. Um, still, it gives the fans a representative in the form of Ruby Jetson, which could be called a pretty heavy handed dig (logan's shudder when he walks away from the hug is priceless). also worth noting that Thomas has said several times that a miniseries, if it happens, will not be fan funded. I don't believe Marti Noxon is sorry about season six of Buffy and I think Logan and Veronica ending up together is forced, but I'm a cynic (and season six is my favorite, everything comes due). I saw the movie before I had seen/read anything about Veronica Mars at all, except whatever decided me not to watch it in the first place (already watching too much television, no supernatural element). I was taken to it by someone who also had never watched any of Veronica Mars either, because they had seen an article somewhere. In retrospect we understood it fairly well, the punch to Madison, Dick having some history that explained Logan being with him, the dynamic that made Logan want to prove to Veronica that he had turned his life around, Keith and Veronica's relationship, all came through. We didn't get a lot of romantic attraction, though, and I know both actors can seem to have real chemistry with a variety of people (the moment in the Good Place when Eleanor looks at Chidi as a romantic interest; in supernatural season 7 when Dohring, playing the totally evil but in love time traveling God). Watching it again, I think Logan doesn't even think she would be interested in him until she jumps him, and probably just thinks she is distracting herself, and Veronica seems to be using the situation to reevaluate her life. I just tend to think it was never really a story in the romance genre, although she had romantic interests, and the movie was an anomaly that ended up proving the point, since the actual point where they become a real couple is two separate moments in MKAT, Veronica's commitment is while Logan isn't even on the continent. The decisions were never made for reasons of romance. Anyway, enough from me. I respect your opinion and it is clearly my problem that I came into this fandom late and like Veronica a lot more than I like Logan.

Sunnydale, 38,000 inhabitants, one small main street, twelve huge Gothic cemeteries. And a hell mouth... It might make more sense if Riverdale proves to be close to a larger city, Like Neptune is close to LA and San Diego.