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Hermiones lecture to Veronica about loyalty seems to speak to Hermione’s relationship with Hiram. When they discuss Fred being a problem, though, what do they mean? Clearly the Hiram agenda requires a divided Riverdale, I get that but I’m still not sure I get what the advantage will be. Does he plan on stepping in and being the hero, next mayor, etc. They have been absent as has Archie’s interest in music. They may be trying to figure out how to integrate them into the story.

I’m not sure white suit equals white hat :-) i see two things, woobie logan who is much more childish than his years will be hurt We know he is eager to be friends, more than friends with Veronica. He is lonely and isolated even with his gang around him Also he is entitled, boat, champagne, and no consequences for his actions. We just had a show about two more people who suffered from those drugs ....

Yeah I think it’s teen show short cut for something else more embarrassing that they couldn’t build a show around.

Thinking Jason’s school. Boats hooked together in a junkyard and most of the classes selling magazines door to door. It wasn’t a very good school, he explains. Comes to me.. Jason is a true innocent, Chidi’s opposite. Chidi has too much education to make ethical decisions. Jason has too little. Tahani has only barely learned she has a problem Eleanor emerges as the heart of this group because she can apply reason to her actions. Rousseau, I guess. It explains why Jason is so nasty and yet so sweet.

Wind chime genitals! I guess he’s human but has problems because he’s Janet’s first. She needs practice.

Fork me sideways. No new episodes until the new year?

I’m pretty sure having sex with someone who is married is adultery. Even if you are not married. He isn’t a cheater but he is a sinner. The big deal is usually fathering children that aren’t the husbands but that the husband will have to support. Bet that’s the origin of cuckolding. Huh.

Last ep I figured it was Chick because the coopers are the only ones I can see wearing contacts that color and ending up with bright green eyes I remember whining about the ymca being closed on Christmas and the person I was venting to looked at me and said ‘young men’s Christian association’. Ok, they can be closed on Christmas. Sigh. My point being that the core of Archie Comics is love triangles. Betty and Veronica are trope namers . I think we’re stuck with revolving triangular affairs and probably should have expected it going in. Toni is Jughead’s Veronica to Betty’s Betty. Dark Betty is veronica’s Veronica to archie’s Betty. And so it goes

Just a thought. Excepting twin peaks: the return I’m have no trouble thinking of any other tv shows, especially teen network shows, but any, with that level of real violence. I’m sure there are incidents but this is pretty rare, I think.

Initially it is exhilarating but as it continues it becomes awful. Like eating a whole bunch of candy very fast and then realizing the consequences. Candy makes you fat and solving problems with abusive violence—he wasn’t defending or subduing—makes you abusive. I think your supposed to be drawn in by the soundtrack and then realize what you’re doing.

Right now tuition at San Diego state is 47,100. Add fees, housing, etc and 62,400 a year. Assume less during show. I assumed she had a college fund she added to, including many side cases. Because that’s how her dad and V talked about it How much would moms rehab cost? how did the fifty thousand Jake gave factor into it? Honestly I never believed she skipped that test to go to trial and hear the verdict. After all the money struggles.

Isn’t she a lawyer in Chicago? Job, life?

She would if she’s telling her Mom the official story of what happened. ‘This iis what happened if you know what’s good for you. ‘

Glad you survived.

she seems pretty into pleasuring herself. Michael has issues with understanding good concepts (and those bad janets, wow), seems not unreasonable to think a good being would have trouble wrapping their minds around evil concepts like stealing.

There are some recently rewritten comics with the same show runner. Some are horror and some are alternative universe, but they are pretty accessible to anyone interested in comics/graphic novels. Current, I mean, and written with a slant that will appeal to a modern comics reader. I'm old enough but I never read the originals, except for the occasional one I found lying around, however I like comics and have read them for ... a very long time, so naturally I've encountered conversations about Archie, seen covers of Archie comics, and absorbed some stuff by osmosis. I bet a lot of people who watch this haven't read the comics because they don't read comics. I think a lot of people who watch Arrow aren't fans of the Green Arrow comics. Supergirl. Walking Dead. etc.

Women in the women are delicate trope are not necessarily completely weak and ineffectual, although if you think about it Lynn's campaign against Aaron was really pretty feeble. She was not leaving him, right? Even though we know she could support herself and a son, she could not leave the umbrella of her man, who beat her son. I also think that living off stolen credit cards financed by Aaron, and the rest of Trina's limited storylines are mostly her looking to a man for support and protection. Like Lynn, she tries to manipulate Aaron into giving her what she wants instead of taking what she wants on her own, even though it is clear she is capable of this. There are other parts of the trope neither of them fit, neither seem overwhelmingly nurturing, which is one of the main virtues delicate women are supposed to have. But the trope isn't an absolute, it is how people act inside a story. We don't see every aspect of their lives. I think that by this episode we haven't really seen much of how Logan sees women, but we have seen his responses are similar to things we see from Aaron in this episode (including the story he tells about how if he'd been together with Lilly he would have protected her). Of course, what happens going forward may or may not support what I'm saying. I agree that at this time Logan seems sweet, pretty normal, pretty much like a good guy, exciting, fun, social, well liked. With just a few cracks in the veneer.

Lynn and Trina are both members of the 'women are delicate' supertrope. They are ineffectual, never as strong as men, need protection, need to be put on a pedestal, shouldn't be reckless, should let men take care of them....as happens with Trina in this episode. When she is abused both Aaron and Logan rise to her protection. Very similar responses. The echolls men are very traditional men in that they expect their women to allow themselves to be protected by their men. I think virtually all the other women, Veronica/Mandy/Mac/Lilly/Hannah/Meg/etc all avert this trope. Personally I think this causes a lot of problems for Logan in relationships. I also think that Logan is actually Aaron's son, in the same way that Aaron is his father's son. Logan may not beat women or children, ever in his life, but those arent' the only things he's had the opportunity to learn. And struggles with throughout his life.

I knew a woman who was beaten by her adoptive father growing up. He apologized later, sincerely apologized when he learned her biological father had been white. He had assumed that his beatings were necessary to counteract the effects of her racial background. He was willing to admit he made a mistake. I think Aaron is a lot like this. I think he is sincere, I think he believes he is a good person, I think he believes that Logan, as an entitled, lazy rich kid who needs to be beaten. Like Aaron's dad beat him. Aaron didn't like it, but he turned out ok, right? Personally, I think his direct (and really horrifically violent) beating of Trina's boyfriend, while superficially satisfying, is part and parcel of the same heritage of abusive violence. So yes, I believe Aaron's redemptive arc, that is I believe he is sincere as he talks about it. I also believe that he is playing the grieving husband for the cheap seats without even realizing it, because he has done it for so long. I also believe that not beating Logan doesn't even occur to him seriously as part of his redemption.

It's been a while but there is a plot in Siddhartha/Hesse that involves Siddhartha trying to raise his difficult son after the mother's death (bit by viper) and finally he runs away and Siddhartha realizes he has to let him go. Aaron may actually be preparing for his publicity tour after Logan storms out. Love Mandy and Chester and Backup and this whole MOTW. It would have been nice if she'd remained closer to Veronica, too. That bit with Leo was sad to me, actually. Veronica was a jerk to him. Glad he helped out, although it is his job in this case.

Odd that Michael didn't know about paperclips but you need paperclips to decommission a Janet. Loved the pudding/yogurt transition (although I actually like frozen yogurt). Great episode. I wonder if we are going to find out what is happening with the others, including the pins in chidi, in the next episode?

Has anyone noticed anyone in the cast who has green eyes or eyes light enough so they can wear colored contacts effectively? Could it be the Cooper son, Chick? The shirtless video was really over the top. Kevin is pretty bold to be cruising in the woods for sex and probably has std's by now. Also he's had two hookups, Moose and Joaquin, during the show and Joaquin was an actual in public boyfriend he went to parties with, and honestly his Dad seems fairly cool, so he isn't that darn isolated. I'm shocked, not displeased, but actually shocked that Moose and Midge are still alive. ------------------------- My favorite line was Jughead's "Travis Bickle Archie is my favorite Archie". Mine, too, Jughead. Mine, too.

Actually that is really cool because people do tend to act a lot like their parents. Of course Betty is judgy and intrusive and will make her own decisions, no matter what anyone says. It is like her Mom. Perhaps she will learn from this and modify her behavior a little, but she's always going to take some of that with her, you can tell. Veronica is doing the same thing with her dad. Cheryl also seems to have learned from her upbringing. Jughead. Kevin. etc. It's a good reason for giving the parents a place in the show and makes them seem like actual teenagers.

I also cannot figure out her agenda, especially considering what we saw before Hiram returned. It would be nice if she brings him down.

I don't get much chemistry from Archie with anyone, but this episode his father was just shot. He shouldn't have any, gratuitous shower scene notwithstanding. Archie would have his drivers license if he was old enough. Which means he was 14 or 15 on construction site. Of course it was his dad's site.