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I was wondering about that too. Who is Christopher and why haven't we heard about him before?

Initially, I was worried that Trey would be able to frame Daniel for George's murder, but the surveillance tape complicates things. Even if Trey insisted that Daniel murdered George in front of him, there's no way Daniel could have disposed of a body and the video shows that. I suppose Trey could still lie and say Daniel murdered George and intimidated Trey into disposing the body. But now the sheriff isn't as certain of Daniel's guilt in Hannah's death. His sending Trey and George's DNA out makes it clear he's looking into the past with a fresher perspective. At best, the sheriff will be weary of anything Trey has to say against Daniel if Trey's DNA pops in Hanna's investigation which it likely will and wonder if Trey killed George. At worst, the sheriff will decide Daniel and Trey are partners in crime and killed George together before he couldn't implicate them. Trey would have been better off leaving things alone and just letting George's suicide be found out. Is there any chance George wrote a suicide note, or left something behind to make it clear it was suicide that Trey wouldn't have be able to discard? Still even if the sheriff supports Daniel's innocence involving Hannah and George, Daniel is guilty of assaulting Teddy. Teddy's an idiot if he thinks Twaney and Daniel had sex. What woman in the middle of a miscarriage is going to have sex? Wouldn't she be in physical discomfort? Although Twaney and Daniel, simply having a conversation is enough to set Teddy off. I think Daniel created a window of opportunity for Teddy to better communicate with Twaney and maybe work things out, but Teddy was too jealous to recognize it. Daniel willing gave Twaney information that made him look terrible and Teddy look better, and Teddy still manages to ruin his chance because jealousy over Daniel is his focus instead of reaching Twaney. In the end it's not about Twaney but competing with Daniel and I can understand Twaney wanting to walk away from that.

I've been thinking about it a lot and Oliver really failed Thea monumentally. Tommy dies and their mother is in prison and Oliver disappears for months focused on his grief with no thought of Thea who was totally on her own at 18 years old. He meddled in Thea's relationship with Roy which just created more pain for her. He disappears on her again when their mother dies. No wonder she's bitter towards him. He's shown himself to be totally unreliable and from her perspective self centered. Viewer's see his concern for her, but he's never around when she needs him. I'm annoyed the show hasn't really used Walter much. I think he could have interesting dynamics with Thea and Oliver. Logically, Walter should have been there for Thea through the traumas of the last couple of years because Season 1 established a solid father/daughter kind of bond, but Walter's used so sparingly that it's been lost. It might be interesting to see Walter used more in Season 3 (I'm hoping). I would not mind some Malcom vs. Walter stuff in the battle for Thea's soul. Worry over Thea and efforts to get back the company could also be a way for Walter and Oliver to interact. Is the actor who plays Walter simply not available often or do the writers just not see his potential as a part of Oliver and Thea's journeys?

I agree. They were horrible. The mother

I had low expectations but really liked Latter Days. I think the characters have more depth than I anticipated, and there were some interesting interactions.

As a rule I hate when a villain is kept around too long after the character's expiration date (ex: Heroes, Sylar). Yet when Malcolm was brought back I was thrilled. I just can't resist the JB magnetism. I can't wait for Malcolm and Thea to spare/bond. The scene when Thea shot him and his reaction was pride was crazy in the best way. I trust JB to keep his performance interesting no matter what the writers throw at him.

Top 100 Greatest Gay Movies I figure this list is a good jumping point for discussion. I have a major soft spot for Shelter. Some of my favorites are Torch Song Trilogy, Imagine Me and You, Beautiful Thing, and Coffee Date really goes in an interesting direction. For documentaries, I always think of The Times of Harvey Milk, The Celluloid Closet, and Bridegroom. I hate Heartbeats. I think they are assholes who are in love with drama more than anything else.

The parents in What Maisie Knew were horrendous. That kind of neglect was tough to watch. It shows a parent can be abusive even if they aren't hitting the kid or being verbally abusive. That scene where Julianne Moore The only times Maisie was happy and safe was when she was with her step parents.

I always get this sense of menace when Teddy and Tawney have scenes together. I'm always half expecting him to hit her. She once said she was sometimes afraid of him. I get the impression that she tends to walk on eggshells around him and tends to think of how he will react over how she may feel. It's like she's always acting for him because she doesn't think he can handle her being honest, and I think she's right because he's so intensely insecure. He's a character who sometimes winds up in circumstances where I want to feel bad for him, but I can't because he's unnecessarily an asshole so much of the time. I think Twaney shut down emotionally after the miscarriage partially out of guilt because she wasn't sure she wanted the baby and partially part of the pattern of her repressing herself to handle Teddy. I do think neither Teddy or Tawney are saints in this situation and have both made mistakes. She wanted out of the marriage but just couldn't come out and say it. Some of that I think is religious and some is her self-esteem. Having feelings for Daniel and wanting a divorce makes her feel like a bad person. I also believe it was fear of his nasty reaction. So she kept going along with Teddy while mentally she was already gone from the marriage. She should have been more mature and just ended it even if Teddy got ugly about it. Still I tend to feel more sympathy for her rather than Teddy. I kinda think both Twaney and Teddy have immature streaks but his is louder and more oft putting. I think Teddy is understandably hurt to have his wife not want him anymore, but I don't think it justifies his behavior with her. I feel like he treats her as an appendage to him and not an individual with her own needs and feelings. Sometimes he directs his anger about other things and people at Taweny which is why she seems to walk on eggshells with him constantly. I believe her when she says she's tired because being marriage with someone with a temperament like Teddy's would be exhausting. A marriage where you are always afraid to speak your mind is going to fall apart eventually. I feel like even if Daniel didn't come along Twaney would have got tired of constantly having to cater to Teddy's ego, and the marriage would be strained anyway. Daniel exacerbated issues that were already there. Teddy doesn't see that and will probably end up pressing charges against Daniel for the choke hold as part of a way to get revenge on Daniel and maybe get Twaney back. In Teddys, mind it's Daniel's fault and that's all he wants to see. I feel like he's the type to blame others and not take personal responsibility for how the way he responses to people can be alienating. I bet if the rims thing fails he'll blame his father and Taweny for it because they didn't believe in him enough. Which is not to say, I don't think Daniel has some culpability. He's made it clear he wants Tawney, and he doesn't seem to give a crap about Teddy's feelings. But since, Teddy never gives a crap about Daniel's feelings when he's being horrilbe I figure Daniel and Teddy are even. I'm convinced that Daniel will get falsely accused of George's murder. The sheriff has gotten involved in his disappearance. When they search his house, they'll see evidence that Daniel was there and that there was a some sort of violent confrontation. Trey will lie and implicate Daniel further. It's going to get uglier and uglier.

I loved Twist of Faith. You are so right about the chemistry. I like that the "too soon' issue was addressed and his mother's response.

I did [/*img], So, I'm not sure why it came up as a hyperlink. @Sakura12 Poor Roy, he like the little brother they like to tease.

It looks like the Sleepy Hallow writers, The Mystery of Laura writers, and even Gail Simone are getting involved. So much epic fun.

I seriously love you @Velocity23

@Morrigan2575 shared this in the behind the scenes thread because the Gotham writers and Arrow writers are playfully debating who gets Felicity. EBR says Felicity will go where the gadgets go.

There's a great behind the scenes video I'm looking for. It was of some the cast of Arrow singing Summer Nights from Grease in the bathroom. Does anyone have the link?

It occurs to me that the big misstep of the writers is that they decided the writing for Laurel would be inspired by Rachel Dawes of Nolan's Batman instead of the Black Canary herself. Rachel Dawes was not the right fit to become the Black Canary.

I just though of a really interesting triangle that worked for me. Daria had a triangle with Daria/Tom/Jane. It was really well done and didn't shy away from how rough the situation was on both Jane and Daria. Basically Daria and Jane's boyfriend fell for each other which of course hurt Jane deeply. The build up happened over several episodes. Daria initially hated Tom because she felt like Jane was ditching her for him. He makes the effort to befriend Daria for Jane's sake and eventually feeling developed. I like the fact that it took time for the Daria/Jane friendship to be repaired and that even after that what happened wasn't forgotten. It did come up again more than once. Plus, it inspired one of my favorite Trent/Daria scenes where he tells her she and Tom having feelings for each other is on one's fault, but she had to stop playing stupid about it. Somehow Trent managed to be a solid brother to Jane and good friend to Daria by trying in his own way to smooth things over between them. It was a good triangle because I felt everyone was sympathetic, and no one was made into a villain.

I think Ianto's goal was to pique Jack's interest, and he dressed and acted with that in mind. But that failed because Jack's hatred of Torchwood 1 trumped his initial interest in Ianto. When Ianto shows up again in the suit, he's no longer trying to appeal to Jack in a romantic way but trying to show his all business side trying to show how useful he'd be to Torchwood 3. Then, there's the moment that changes things between Jack and Ianto. In the effort to capture Myfanwy, Ianto drops the act and has a real moment of connection with Jack. For all Ianto's efforts, it's the real him and the genuine spark between him and Jack that gets him the job and not his manipulations. That devastates Ianto because it was supposed to be all about LIsa, but he felt something for Jack that betrays her. He probably also felt guilt for bonding with Jack under false pretenses.

Thanks, @Dandesun. I will give Austenland another chance and try my best to appreciate it on it's own without comparing it to the book.

I found it interesting that in previous episodes FOOTR and SB Ianto spoke of his father in a positive light but in COE there's clearly some bad stuff between Ianto and his Dad. Is that the usual crap continuity or is Ianto's history with his father supposed to be complicated? Also, I don't think Ianto ever mentions his mother. Is there a reason for that or am I giving this more thought than the writers?

I accept that changes will be made when the transition from book to screen happens but sometimes essentials get changed that just ruin it. I have only sat through 7 minutes of Austenland because it just bugged too much the way they've completely rewritten who the lead character was as a person. In the book, she hides her well worn copy of Pride and Prejudice because Austen was her guilty pleasure, and she ends up going to Austenland because a relative who figured out her secret left her the money specifically for the trip. She alternates between being bemused, enjoying, and sometimes feeling stifled by the faux Austen world. In the movie, she decorates her apartment in tribute to Austen and has a huge cutout of Darcy that she even kisses at one point. She spends her life savings to go to Austenland. She fucking walks through the airport in costume. The woman of the book and of the movie are completely different leaving me weary about what else they may have changed. Can anyone else whose seen it tell me if it's worth watching beyond that first worrisome 7 minutes? I kinda felt like the movie was mocking Austen fans while the book was kinder about Austen fandom while playing with the idea of how love of a fantasy can keep you from finding love in reality.

I can understand how you feel @Captanne. COE felt like an end for me and MD as something altogether different. I don't know what they were trying to accomplish my making Ianto look like a liar especially since they made him make a point to say that he told Jack everything in Day 4. Was it supposed to make fans feel okay with his death because that certainly backfired.

My sisters and I love Bugsy Malone so much that one Christmas one of my sisters bought us the dvd and the soundtrack. It's such a fun movie. When I was little, I wanted to live in that world where the kids were grownups.

The total lack of urgency to replace skilled employees is just so odd.

@indeed Do you have a link to that essay about the team/family dynamics? Jack really is a terrible recruiter for Torchwood. I remember describing him once as the venus flytrap of recruitment. He doesn't seem to be actively looking for qualified people to bring into the organization. He just waits for these people to stumble on his path.