RealHousewife

Exactly. I could be friends with someone like her. She's never vicious. Heather is definitely one of the classier Housewives. 100%. It's always the most aggressive women who pull the "just a girl" card.

Same. Joe is charming and fun, and Melissa is one of the few Housewives I could be friends with. I would watch a show with just the dudes as well. They can take it too far for my tastes at times (like watching Danielle's porn together), but for the most part, their raunchy jokes make me laugh. They all just have a lot of personality and have silly fun. It's refreshing after seeing the women fight so much. I don't want to sound like I'm giving in to sexist stereotypes. In real life, I know plenty of easygoing, hilarious women, and men who are hyper sensitive killjoys.

Thank you. Seeing it in context, it does sound like Big Kathy meant well, but I still feel for Kyle. However, I was extremely surprised Kyle said she thinks she has to be tough all the time. I know she got on to Sutton about crying, but Kyle has probably cried more than any other Housewife in the whole franchise. She never gave the vibe she wanted to come across as a tough chick, stoic, stiff upper lip, none of that. She's also been open with her mental health issues for many years and everything. I can see her being sensitive about looking like she has the perfect marriage and is the perfect mom, but that's different from feeling pressure to be tough, not showing weakness and being uncomfortable asking for help.

I'm in between jobs at the moment, but I'm more productive as a remote worker. As a single person, I don't have distractions. I start my day with more rest. I don't waste time thinking about work clothes or putting makeup on, unless I need the camera on for a meeting. I save time not having to pack a lunch and whatnot. There are lots of benefits that allow to save my energy for work and still have energy to go out in the evenings should I want to. However, also as a single person, as much as the early mornings, traffic and whatnot can be tiring, I prefer to be in the office every day to working remotely every day. My ideal situation is hybrid with 2-3 days in the office, but being by myself at least 8 hours M-F gets kind of gloomy even for an introvert. So long as they're the nice ones, I like seeing my coworkers.

As much Housewife Kyle annoys me, my heart breaks for little girl Kyle. I think Big Kathy loved her daughters, but she certainly did a number on them. I'm glad Kyle went the opposite direction of how she raised her girls. I can't imagine her even thinking of scaring one of her kids like that. Her childhood definitely explains her anxiety.

I'm glad Sutton had Garcelle with her. She's a sweetheart and by far the most calming presence of all of them in any kind of emergency, and yes that includes Nurse 8.5.

I noticed that on Bravo's YT channel, and I wasn't interested, just like when I promptly exited out when Peacock tried to play BITAOB after Housewives. I hope the poor ratings mean they'll realize the fans don't even want to hate watch her. RHOBH can go on with great ratings without her as well.

Exactly! So these women think they can name call men anything, but how dare they say anything back? It's always the most aggressive women who are suddenly all "I'm just a girl" when it's convenient. That was one thing, but it was another for Teresa to be so aggressive with her own brother. People like to shit on the Gorgas, but both Joe and Melissa are much nicer people than Teresa, at least on the show. I think what Melissa brings is calm to the show. They can't all be Teresas.

Going solely off the show, Teresa looks far more crazy and dangerous than Luis. I can see why Teresa is a legendary Housewife. She's had quite a few iconic moments. The stuff she and Juicy did was wrong, but it made for good story. One of the most moving scenes I've ever seen on reality TV was the girls finally reuniting with their father. But her behavior is really bad. Teresa repeatedly gets physical. She repeatedly goes for low blows like fat shaming. She's very hypocritical. She's bad at apologizing. I could go on. Same. Margaret can be tough, but she seems to have a heart. She seemed sincere when she told Jennifer, if she knew how much hurt she'd cause, she never would have outed Bill's affair. It was so different from Teresa pretending she was being a girl's girl to Jackie spreading a rumor about Evan, or that it was no big deal to spread something because it didn't initially begin with her. Margaret also isn't aggressive with anyone unless she is provoked. I can see why she has the strongest friendships. I wish Margaret got more support. I know Teresa is Joe's sister, but come on.

She makes the Beverly Hills bunch look like sweethearts.

I'm watching season 11. Does Kelly get nicer? How did she continue as a Housewife for awhile?

Well, namaste Teresa was nice while it lasted. It's true Margaret isn't above violence, but she has to be provoked. Teresa doesn't. I like Dolores because I don't see malice and enjoy her family, but I agree about her constantly being on the wrong side. I can see where the bread is buttered argument, but it's also possible she cuts slack due to how much history she has with various cast members/friends. Joe and Melissa know Teresa is crazy, but that's even more complicated.

Wasn't sure where else to post this, but I've been binging Jersey. The Housewives really bring it, and I'm also a big fan of the husbands/ex-husbands. They're the most entertaining guys of any Housewife city.

Wow, she is gorgeous.

I agree. Marge inherited her mom's beauty, and her blue eyes are breathtaking. Regarding what Marge and Melissa say about their parents, I actually get it. I love both my parents to death, and I did NOT have the best childhood. Family is complicated. Me too. I thought that was sweet of Frank as well. I like how kind he is to Bill. At least you give Joe a credit for charm. I know he takes all the sex comments too far, but he really is charming and funny much of the time. I know Frank has issues, but I have a bit of a crush. He is handsome, smarter than you'd first suspect him to be based on his appearance, fun, funny, and pretty kindhearted. It's too bad he messed things up with Dolores, because she has so much going for her as well, and they made a stunning couple. I see why they were called Barbie and Ken when they were together.

Love bubble actually doesn't bother me. Love bean on the other hand . . .

I get where you're coming from. I have people in my life who struggled for years with their weights despite working out and dieting. Then they get on the weight loss drugs and bam, drastic weight loss. I think it's possible Kyle is being truthful though. For one, Kyle has never been an overweight person. I believe Kyle has always been active and watched what she ate to varying degrees. However, she's now super into fitness. When she's on vacation, she's more interested in working out than in drinking. Kyle consumed a lot of calories from alcohol alone before. I wouldn't be surprised if Kyle has more help than she's letting on. She certainly has the means and has had plastic surgery multiple times, so I'm sure she's open to lipo and cool sculpting. Paul Nassif even did some procedure on her "love handles" season 1 or 2. However, I think it's possible she went from a healthy, active lifestyle to the accountability lifestyle of Teddi. She did admit to a breast reduction (after Andy blurted it out), so that's probably part of why she looks smaller too. Kyle had a good point in that despite how little she is, she looks strong and athletic. Erika on the other hand looks unnaturally thin and waify to me. Erika is taller and has a leaner build than Kyle, but still. I'm more suspicious of the "hormones" she said she used. She looks very bony, and that's on camera. It's crazy that she is even thinner in actuality than how she looks on the show.

I have to disagree with you about women. I think women CAN be those things, but no more so than men can be. I do agree with you about Frank. He said women are his weakness and he wasn't sure he could be faithful to Dolores if he got a second chance. I wouldn't want someone like that as a husband, but he does seem kindhearted otherwise. He's also fun and funny.

100%! It's pretty obvious all the wives and their partners/ex-partners gossip. Honestly, it's human nature. I give Jennifer the benefit of the doubt that she wasn't going to say anything about Evan on camera even if she found something. So far, with all her flaws, she hasn't exposed anything personal about anyone. I think Jennifer can be brutal with shaming Margaret, and Bill was obviously wrong for cheating on Jennifer. But the way the Aydins were treated was OTT. Bill has been nothing but nice to everyone. I don't blame Evan for calling out Bill for being incorrect about Jennifer not digging, but wanting Bill to agree Jennifer is just awful all around was not fair. I also hated that he told Bill to get lost. It all felt very mean. It's funny going by stereotypes, Frank is the most machismo, but he's one of the more gentle guys on the show. It's a shame he is a womanizer, because he has a lot of great qualities. David must have a lot of great qualities as well if he's so good to Dolores' family, but she should be with someone who's crazy about her.

Hehehe, any way we could get Carlton back?

Yeah, they're like sisters.

100%! I'm sorry I'm late to the Jersey party, but better than late than never.

All this. Do I understand Jennifer's argument that she didn't comment on anything Margaret hadn't been open about? Yes. Jennifer did not out any secrets. But she was very harsh on Marge, like cheating is the absolute worst thing you could ever do in life, and even judged her for something that happened in her early 20s that she felt pressured into. Do I understand taking the high road and that outing this about Bill is hurtful? Absolutely. I'm not saying Margaret spilling the beans was how I'd handle things. But I absolutely get why Marge just couldn't take it anymore. Jennifer brags about how wonderful Bill is but makes Margaret out to be this slut. It reminds me of when she poured the water on Danielle. Good idea? Perhaps not, but she was absolutely provoked. The nicest person can only take so much.

Mary was barely interested in being a friend of.

You would think fellow rich ladies would understand. Yes, Sutton is very fortunate she doesn't have to deal with how to put food on the table, and she lives a life most of us can only dream of. But tons of child support/alimony or not, I can understand her ex being powerful can make her scared of her kid moving out of the country along with her ex, feeling pressure to move herself, and just being emotional about someone she once cared about being that far away. A true friend would care about all this. Kyle didn't. She didn't show compassion when Sutton shared about her miscarriages either. She was dismissive of Merse. I don't think Kyle felt bad the times Sutton's been bullied, called the c word, nothing. Did Kyle even show compassion when Sutton shared about losing her father? I don't remember. I don't think Kyle hates Sutton, and she has sadly treated other Housewives worse, but she is no friend to Sutton. How would Kyle like it if people were dismissive of her marriage falling apart just because she and Mauricio are loaded? I don't have a fraction as much money, and I do think Kyle has a blessed life regardless of what happens, but I still know money can only do so much for a broken heart.