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I hear you. I think for me, I'm not sure Tre was the brains behind that operation. Jen on the other hand was 100% knowledgeable about everything she was doing scamming elderly people.

I'm binging Potomac, and I really like Monique so far. I'm sad to hear about her assaulting Candiace and her divorce. I was rooting for her. I agree that she really seemed to have everything going for her. Gizelle was repeatedly accused of being jealous of Ashley early on. I never really understood that because other than youth, Ashley had nothing on her imo. Ashley is beautiful, but Gizelle is painfully gorgeous and in another league imo. I can't see Gizelle wanting her life, being married to Michael or any of that. However, Monique is one of the few women out there who can give Gizelle a run for her money in the beauty department, AND she's married to an age-appropriate successful man and appears to have this perfect life. I do think Gizelle's instant hostility stemmed from jealousy.

Omg, how frightening! I hope Teddi will be okay and soon. She is still so young to have all these health scares. :(

Are the two therapist moms on Bravo Sutton's mom and Candiace's mom? It did strike me as odd that neither of them screams mother of the year or someone you'd want to confide in.

MTE! Ashley thinks she's sooo above Candiace. Where would she be without her creepy, old enough to be her dad husband?

I've wondered that too. My heart does go out to Mary when it comes to Robert Jr, and yes Mary can be amusing. But no, neither absolves her of grifting or her plain meanness. It's bizarre. Jen's the one person worse than Mary on this show. There is no reason to be ride or die for that woman. Heather and Jen didn't have a long history of friendship, did they? I was under the impression they only had a friendship due to the show, but perhaps I'm wrong. One thing I can struggle with is coming to terms with the fact I misjudged someone I once considered a friend, and I am loyal to a fault. You think of all the good memories, sharing special times together, and it can be hard to accept all of that was with this monster. Maybe Heather is similar.

Implants can look good, but when it's a very thin woman with very little natural breast tissue to begin with, I agree that the large implants look ridiculous. As much as Dorit has always come across as more harmless than a lot of the BH bunch, I don't care for the fact she knows her husband owes a ton of money and still spends like crazy. I probably cut these women more slack than the average viewer for stuff like Botox because I can understood they're under tremendous pressure to stay looking good for their jobs. But there is zero reason to go splurge on all the designer everything Dorit does. Camille was right on that issue imo. Dorit was also chased around for allegedly owing money herself for Beverly Beach.

I'd love to know how Dorit stays looking so good. She's managed to stay looking young yet natural.

It varies. There are some rich men who would be thrilled to be with someone as beautiful as Dorit, but despite how pretty she is, a lot of those rich guys (including ones older themselves) would not see her as the pretty YOUNG thing anymore at 48. It's icky, but many wealthy men prefer women in their 20s or maybe 30s. Dorit would have to find a guy who's not chasing youth, and she should be open to men who perhaps can't provide as OTT lifestyle as PK but have some legitimate success and aren't grifters.

@Keywestclubkid I'm so sorry for what you've gone through. I have never understood how anyone could have it in their hearts to harass and harm innocent people. You deserve to have love and feel safe holding your partner's hand anywhere. Brynn seems to think it's appropriate to be all over Jenna just because she's a woman. It's gross. I'm not LGBT myself, and another thing I can't figure out is why some straight people seem to assume gay people want to sleep with anyone of the same sex. It makes no sense, and I totally get why it's offensive, especially when people like Brynn get handsy. It does all strike me as performative. With Kyle, I do stand by my posts of her "teasing" the same storylines for two years now, but I actually don't think her questioning her sexuality is fake. She mentioned that none of this stuff is not how she was raised. That leads me to believe she might still be struggling with acceptance, wondering what Big Kathy would think, etc. Who knows. This is just the impression I have as a cis-gendered straight woman who is sensitive to the fact that there is still a lot of hatred out there. Same. If Kyle really is bi or gay, I wish her all the love and acceptance in the world.

Interesting. One one hand, Jennifer did not commit a crime, and Bravo has let way worse slide. On the other hand, even a lot of the messy Housewives are known to be nice people IRL and wouldn't pull this crap. Jennifer was never my favorite. Too much of a mean streak for me.

Yeah it's odd. Kyle is sort of acting like if it weren't for this private conversation, that the Garcelle thing would have come out of nowhere. It wasn't like Garcelle spilled anything or grilled her about her sexuality. Regarding Denise, yes Brandi shared on camera, seemed kind of summoned over by Kyle to do so. Then whatever Denise said, it wasn't good enough for Kyle & co, kind of like Lisa's answers regarding puppy-gate.

Wow, finally! On WWHL, Andy said the #1 question they got for Kyle-"You relentlessly called Denise to be open and honest about her sexuality on the show few years ago. Now you've called Garcelle an asshole for making a joke about your sexuality this season. Do you see the double standard?" Kyle kept it brief regarding Denise and said "Didn't we a learn a lot from that season with Denise and Brandi?" She then proceeded to say she thought Garcelle weaponized a private conversation off-camera, blah, bah. She said she was hurt because she thought they were becoming friends. I wish she truly acknowledged how wrong her treatment of Denise was.

It was very nice of Garcelle to bring Sutton's mother a gift. I am sure Sutton appreciated the gesture even if Sutton's mother did not.

I sure hope not. She's the Housewife I hate the most, and I've watched a lot of Housewives. It's a special kind of sicko to take advantage of elderly people.

I think it's the whole teasing then playing coy thing. It's true Kyle never gave any details about Mauricio to back up an affair, but I can absolutely see why some people would think there was infidelity due to info she did share. Kyle says she's trying to be quiet about Morgan now out of respect for her, who knows. Then I don't know why she brought up PK texting her in the first place as if it's something to talk about if it wasn't something to talk about.

I am binging Potomac, and I think "the Grand Dame" is TV gold. When Gizelle mentioned missing her drunk phone calls at 3 am (season 3), I was reminded of Shannon Beador.

The wig shift and mime scenes were both two of the funniest scenes I've seen on any Housewives show. Ashley's Karen impersonation was also hilarious.

Hehehe I kinda wanna watch now.

I know going through a separation with the love of your life must be traumatic, but the edit of the last episode seemed to want us to feel sorry Kyle has to spend any time at all alone. She has four daughters, two sisters, and her real off-camera friends. Even missing Mauricio, she can't be THAT lonely. That's what's frustrating, isn't it? KYLE is the one that brings up Mauricio breaking her trust, teases that she has a thing with Morgan, and brings up that she and PK text. But then she acts like she has to address some deep, dark secrets that she's tried so hard to protect and how dare everyone. If the answers to these questions aren't yes/no, that's fine too. Say there was never infidelity, but I felt very hurt and disrespected by Mau's social media interactions with other women. I'm not a lesbian and don't even know if I'm bisexual, but I am bicurious and still trying to figure it out. I keep in contact with the Kemsleys even though we don't hang out as couples together anymore.

Aww, I had no idea. Congrats to Lily and her husband.

It's all very bizarre to me. How would Brynn remotely be #2 girl boss? She's repeatedly mocked Rebecca's career, but if you google her, there is lots of info about her and endless search results of her products. I think we can confirm how all the others have the lifestyles they have too. Brynn is the only one that is a mystery. I also think it's weird that as sensitive as she is about men helping her financially (Jeff Lewis NEVER said sex work), she brags about Russian billionaires. I can ignore her being flirty and leading with sex, because I know sometimes people with trauma act out in the ways Brynn does. But the way she portrays herself and tries to portray the others can be very confusing. I get that Housewives thrives on drama and pettiness. But some of these women are actual friends right? Brynn at one point felt very close to Ubah. In life, some of us will just have jobs. Some of us will be "girl bosses." Some might be full-time moms/homemakers. There are many different paths. I have friends who make a lot more money than me. I have friends who make a lot less than me. It's all good. I love them, and we're not competitive with one another. It would be a friendship dealbreaker for me if a friend of mine knocked my career in order to come across as #2 girl boss of the show.

Does anyone here take any sleep medications? Melatonin at best helps slightly, and there are times I sleep terribly after taking it. I already take two medications, and I hate to get on a third one, especially because I worry about the safety of longterm use. But I am just tired of being tired. I am able to sleep if I can go to bed late, it's just sleeping during the hours I need to in order to go to work that I struggle with.

I forgot exactly what Jeff Lewis said about Brynn, so I googled it and found this. https://realityblurb.com/2025/01/31/jeff-lewis-slams-brynn-whitfield-as-a-flat-out-liar-after-rhony-finale-shares-how-she-twisted-his-words-plus-accuses-her-of-recreating-the-narrative-with-ubah-and-admits-to-feeling-vindic/

Agreed. God knows if you have a temper, we cannot be close. But I find Brynn's lying a lot more unsettling than Ubah's outbursts.