DearEvette

Ha! Mrs. Hernandez doing what looked like Parkour freerunning made me snort out loud.

I am not sure about timelines but aren't Steph & Jo residents? It just seems like in the earlier episodes even when Mer, George, Christina etc. were just interns we watched them do more and they seem to have more hands on responsibility than Steph and Jo do. I mean there are scenes of Izzy scrubbed in with Burke and he is explaining some complicated thing and firing off questions to her, or when George had to do surgery on his own while trapped ion an elevator, or Addison forcing Izzy to take responsibility all by herself overnight with a Preemie telling her that the baby's life is her responsibility and the baby better be alive when Addison returns in the morning. Even the nurses are shown to be subtlety teaching while simultaneously standing back and saying 'you're the doctor you make the call.' Having said all that, i do admit I find myself liking George more than I remembered, so maybe my dislike of him is something that came after the fact an poisoned my early memories. But Izzy I am disliking more than I remembered. I guess by the time I get to her with Denny and doing surgery on a deer, I'll be hating her guts.

Yeah. I would 1000x prefer she was Corbin's kid or just not another Mills. Realistically we know they do have other siblings because Papa Mills has another family. But hopefully they won't be incorporated because Millsx2 is everything!

I loved this episode based almost solely on the 'Face Your Fears' musical number. Not just the song, because it was funny and fantastic and so very subversive. But also Rebecca's skeptical commentary accompanying the song. It was like Paula and Rebecca were standing side by side but in two separate genres: Paula was in a musical, but Rebecca was in a made-for-tv-movie. And yeah, her complete obliviousness to White Josh was great. Also, are those new opening credits or have I just never watched them before? Now I am wondering if I just never watched the opening credits before.

Wow. So another regular. That makes six regulars. I dunno, Seems a bit big for Sleepy Hollow. On the one hand that could mean very little because being a regular simply means contractually they can call on you when they need you, but they don't actually have to give you any real screen time (*Cough*Season 2 Frank & Jenny *cough*). On the other hand, it could mean they might trim elsewhere (*cough*Betsy Ross *cough*). Unlike S2 they aren't so far ahead with filming that they can't easily drop dead weight if things are looking sketchy. And Betsy is as sketchy as they come. But on the other, other hand it might signal that Fox isn't too unhappy with the ratings. I mean other shows are getting episode orders trimmed -- so they are dead shows walking (*cough* Minority Report, Blood & Oil *cough*) while Sleepy is adding a regular. But on the other, other, other hand... well I'm running out of hands. I toyed with the idea that she was another Mills sister too. It seems to blatant with all the talk of Daddy Mills and another family. And although Jenny & Abbie's role in the Apocalypse seems to come down through their maternal line, there is no reason to assume that something hinky wasn't going on in their paternal line either.

OMG, I will always remember Jaclyn Smith killing it on a track relay. She was in was in third and she rounded the track and passed everybody. It was fab!

One of the things that is sticking out to me in my re-watch is how much actual teaching the Residents/Attendings did with Mer, Christina George etc. Even amongst all the sexy times you got a good sense of the personalities of the interns through their skills. One of the reasons it is so hard to connect with the new interns is that the storytelling isn't as deep with them as it was with the original crew. So of course, we have no way of knowing really how good Jo or Stephanie really are because we aren't getting to watch them really do anything. i think they actually attempted to do it with the Jo, Stephanie, Tina Majorino and Friday Night Lights guy... but they were juggling too many characters to make it work effectively. It seems like they are trying to get back to that a bit, but still this season the only thing I know about Hot Intern is that he is good at sex.

I am doing a re-watch and I started with S1 last week. And I am up to S3 right now and you are so right! Not only did George not have any chemistry with Izzie (the absolute worst pairing in GA history) he had none with Callie either, imo. Frankly I just never found George have chemistry with anyone. Actually I just disliked George from S1. Even more than Alex who was written to be purposefully jerky.

OMG! I love this! This is worthy of a Blackish episode shout out. Yeah, I didn't agree with the C+. Her review of the episode was positive so I don't know why she graded it so low. She is a different reviewer than they had last season. The reviewer last season was much more positive in his scoring. But I think this season is stronger right out the gate.

I would imagine that she didn't leave immediately because people tend to be conditioned to do polite things regardless of how they feel. And to some extent she took her cue from Meredith. At that point they were the only two people who knew what was what. Meredith invited her in, took her coat, offered her a drink. She probably felt that all she needed to do was make it through the dinner and not make things awkward for everyone else as long as Meredith was willing to just be a polite hostess and allow her to remain in her anonymity. Once Meredith let the cat out of the bag, yeah she could have fled because clearly the polite portion of the evening was over. And she didn't invite conversation about Derek, Amelia kept on her about it even when people tried to move it along and even she she tried to deflect herself. But like I said above I think there was a level of needing the condemnation and absolution from peers. While saying 'She killed my husband" is great for drama, it is really a rather simplistic and unfair and yes, immature, thing of Meredith to say. Unless it was a matter of gross negligence then it is even an inaccurate thing for Meredith to say. And the people who were sitting at that table would be aware of that. But Amelia made it all about her like, really, nobody in that room ever, ever, ever had anyone die on them from professional misjudgement?

I think Penny's reasons for staying are twofold: 1) She, in a weird way, felt that she deserved this. If Derek was the first/only person who died under her direct care maybe she needed this public flagellation. Obviously there is a level of guilt there that she is unable dismiss as professional misjudgment. There was a point in the dinner where she was trying to explain what happened that night in medical terms and it sounded like (or at least I fanwank) it was an explanation she had made to herself 1,000 times and this was an opportunity to justify it out loud to colleagues -- maybe they can vindicate her a bit? Absolve her guilt some? of course she underestimated the level of maturity amongst the crew she was with. LOL. and 2) She knew she was going to be working with them and once she realized how close they were/important to Derek, she realized that this needed to be dealt with and sooner get it over now rather than later.

Heh. I feel the same way except I don't feel sorry for her. Out of the gate when all the new interns were introduced, Jo was earmarked as New!Izzie. She was given the most character development, she immediately developed a rapport and then a relationship with Alex. She was immediately culled from the herd. It was like watching the audition rounds of So You Think You Can Dance. You can always tell who they like because that is the one they give the heart-wrenching back story to. While all the rest were almost indistinguishable and you knew they were canon fodder. And guess what, with the exception of Stephanie, they are all gone. And yeah the fucked-upness of what went down with that intern put a really bad taste in my mouth both about her and how they were writing her to be received by the audience. The Stephanie telling Jo she was better than her felt almost out of place until you place it in context with what she said earlier and even what happened last week. Last week I felt there was an argument that the confrontation with Weber had a leetle tendril of a racial undertone. Where the black characters might feel it in the room, but the white characters were blind to it. But I put it aside because it wasn't really overt and felt maybe I was projecting. But this week when Stephanie brought up again "they barely know who you are and yet they automatically believe you over me." made me feel that leetle tendril of racial undertone again. So of course when Jo mentions Stephanie's illness in relation to her accomplishments and drive that probably set off a red-flag in Steph's head. Because black students can be so very aware that they have to to work twice as hard to be considered half as good. And reasons are given as to why are excel -- except the obvious ones like smarts. And like it or not, Shonda can be subtle when it comes to pointing out microaggressions. I remember in an ep of Scandal Liv and Abby walked into a room to meet a new client, and the woman walked over to Abby and said 'You must be Olivia Pope.' Nothing else was made of it, Liv just corrected her and introduced herself and that was it. But as a viewer everyone got what just happened there. So I think there may be a little of that going on. Overall I LOVED the episode. it was so tense and well done and yes, the absence of music really allowed the acting to work. My husband who has never seen an ep of Grey's Anatomy wandered through the living room and marvelled that Danny Bonaduce was still working. He was talking about Owen. I think I laughed for like 2 minutes. Still like Maggie with Hot Intern. They have a really rather neurotic thing going on (mostly on her end) but it works for me. Arizona was a hoot! and this is the most I liked April in ages.

But it doesn't explain why she can't act. Sorry. I'll stop now. But re: the Mills sisters. I forgot to mention how much I loved Abbie & Jenny's conversation about their father. It felt very real and natural and very much in keeping with their characters. This is a great case where writer continuity is a good thing. Heather Regnier did my one of my favorite eps of S1 (Midnight Ride) and one of the highlights of S2 (The Abyss Gazes Back, aka the Wendigo episode). She knows Abbie & Jenny's history and you felt the weight of that during their conversation in the car as well as their (non-parent supervised!) conversation with the little girl.

We don't know what Asher did, but apparently it was bad. So he can be all judgey-judgey on everyone else, but he just 'made a mistake'? Before Bonnie confessed to him he had nothing with which to testify. No evidence, he wasn't an eye witness to anything. Where was his power? Frank is The Man. Ha! I hate Wes so bad. I really, really do. And it is all because of his stupid obsession over the most worthless person on this show. So I am super happy anytime Frank gets over on Wes. Or Michaela blames him (irrationally) for letting her sleep with Eggs 911. Or everybody else just dumping on him. I love the police calling Levi 'Heisenberg' ha! "Are you two gay for each other?" - Of course Michaela would think that. Poor thing. I enjoyed her little bout of hysteria and threatening to cut off Levi's balls. And Connor looking out for her. They really need to be besties. Gah! Poor Bonnie. Great episode.

Really good use of Jenny. Nice to see her and Crane working together. Also i liked Crane & Joe hanging out for a bit. I am enjoying Pandora more and more. Seriously, her lines are not deep or especially thought provoking. In some cases they are downright corny but she is clearly a case of an actress who is really owning her role. Her scenes with Abbie was great and have a nice air of menace and a border on a the intimate. I mean, Pandy treats Abbie like they have a connection themselves. It isn't in anything she says but it all in the body language of the actress. Shannyn Sossamon really is doing a great job. Which brings me to Besty Ross. I tried. Lord knows I have. But she is comically bad as both a concept and as an actor. Her flashbacks just feel lazy and shoehorned in. They don't have quite the zing that flashbacks had in S1 & even S2. You can remove them and they would not affect the show at all. If Pandora is a home run, then Betsy is a strike out. Just wrong all over the place. The monster was creepy as fuck. I mean when it sorta attached itself to the wall in that kid's room I think I jumped. I think it is hysterical how Jenny, Abbie & ichabod can all just go and hang with kids, lurk outside their houses at night, give them money, fight demons with them. It's all cool. LOL Ichabod's reaction to his emoji was funny. Zoe sounds like a stage five clinger.

I laughed my ex-church going ass off during this show! I realized that Blackish can be sharp/smart funny (the N-word episode) or it can just be gut-funny, like this one. It isn't trying to make a statement at all and the humor relies completely on people recognizing something of themselves. For instance the whole black church scene was so funny cuz it was true. I think part of the humor comes from the sheer relief of someone feeling like you do. Sure you can respect the church, and lord knows the music be banging, but dang after the opening remarks, the personal testimony, and three/four song choice to 'get y'all warmed up', they announce the Pastor is about to give his sermon and you realize you've already been there for like three hours. LOL. In my church we had a young male organist who I would play softly as kinda like a soundtrack to the happenings. And it never failed but during the part where they passed the collection plate, he'd softly play the bassline of Joy & Pain by Frankie Beverly.

I like Layla. I didn't in the beginning, but I like her storyline trajectory. I think it is interesting to see how this girl who won an American Idol type show feels like she is gonna be the next big thing only to kinda have her dreams ground away bit by bit. One thing I think the show did well in Season 1 but has let fall away as it mired itself into soap suds is the concentration on all the different levels of success in the business. You had Juliette as the brash pop country mega success, Rayna as the Queen who was quietly struggling to stay relevant, Deacon as the respected guy behind the throne who nevertheless had no real name recognition outside of the country music industry, and then you had all the scrappy hungry up-n-comers: Avery, Gunnar, Scarlett. Now it just seems like everyone is very industry. And the show doesn't seem to be as interested in exploring the other aspects on the business. I think Layla's story feels like the closest to that. And I also like the PR person. Again another aspect of the business side of the music industry. She has a sharkiness about her that appeals. You always have guys like Jeff and Lamar but it is nice to see a woman being a little on the no-nonsense business side. Also she seems like a more hard-core version on Tandy. And she makes Luke somewhat interesting. I hope she sticks because the one thing this show does not seem to know how to do is integrate smaller characters into the overall story. They feel disposable all the time and it is a shame because there is only so much drama you can mine just from the same group of characters all the time. TBH, i just thought it was kinda ugly. Then again, I don't think nude netting belongs anywhere outside of a skating rink.

Oh I just watched this one. Allan McLeod narrated one of my all time favorite Drunk History stories , Percy Julian. I enjoyed the Andrew Jackson/Jean Lafitte story the best of the three and I realize that some of the best ones they do are when the narrator gives the actors a lot of dialogue to work with. And he does. And the talking horse took it over the top. And the little kid from Black-ish did a great job as little Louie Armstrong.

Some more info about the crossover. Very mildly spoilery http://www.tvguide.com/news/mega-buzz-bones-sleepy-hollow-crossover/

So I bolded parts because they make up the essential reasons why it literally made no sense for Jo to immediately jump to a conclusion that Steph was lying about this based on her actions in the past. Steph's working the system was getting her a reputation as getting shit done. It was making her look good to the higher ups. If we are to believe Steph is ambitious and striving hard, how does getting out of working on a really important trial of Amelia's benefit her in any way or add to that reputation? If anything her willingness to relinquish a prime spot like that to Jo should have been a clear signal that there was something very major at the root of her objection. Thank you! She was on Criminal Minds last week but I remember her best as poor White House press Secretary Janine who took the fall for being Fitz' mistress the first time people thought it was Liv.

All the sex talk was rather annoying, but I do like Maggie with Hot Intern. I have never liked Jo ever, so I am totally on Team Stephanie with this one. Even if Jo didn't believe her, to baldly characterize Stephanie as a 'liar' -- which is much stronger & more definitive than someone who just manipulates the system in her favor -- to Steph's supervisor is just an outright shitty thing to do. But beyond all that I like how Webber just cut to the heart of the matter and it is more condemnatory of Amelia than it is of Jo. He's completely right, how easily she believed Jo over Stephanie says more about Amelia than it does about Jo. I have seen the actress who plays Callie's new girlfriend on a lot of other shows, even just one this week but I can never remember what they are.

Yes, definitely. Male main characters are more predominant so of course fridging of a female is also more predominant. But it can be any main character. The main thing about the concept of fridging isn't that someone got killed. I mean, shows kill people of both genders all the time. It is the fact that the person got killed solely to explore how their death affects the hero. A lot of people dislike it as a trope because it feels like lazy plotting and it makes the person who died feel very disposable regardless of how much they contributed to the show or how much potential story they have left. Sort of like.... 'hmmm Our Hero has already done a lot of things and we are running out of plots. What can we have him do next? I know, he hasn't lost a loved one yet. What if we kill his girlfriend so he can go on a revenge journey? That will give us lots of stuff to play off of for awhile.' For me a good example of this is Carter from Person Of Interest. From a story standpoint there was no logical reason to kill off Carter, especially since they already pre-fridged Reese's girlfriend before the pilot and that is why he was all homeless and angry. But I guess it was time for him to spiral into an abyss again, so let's kill off one of the people he most respects and probably is kinda-sorta in love with on the down-low. And boy did it make for a great next episode with Reese going all Johnny Cash 'Hurt' and raining down fire and brimstone on people. People fanboied the hell out of that episode. So I guess it worked in the short run. OI also think it is something that writers are attracted to attaching to a male heroic character because it allows a man to show vulnerability and painful emotions which are things people still don't necessarily automatically associate with men.

He was a Warlock? in Katrina's coven who knew about Ichabod's importance as a Witness and helped her put Ichabod in stasis. As much I loved Tempus Fugit (the S2 finale) I do think him not being there was a major oversight. I know it feels convenient that Crane always remembers something relevant from his past, but it seems pretty clear that Abbie & Ichabod's role as Witnesses is something that has been pre-ordained (and S3 is heavily implying they have been Witnesses it for milennia). Also every supernatural being knows they The Witnesses. So it stands to reason that every part of their life has some relevancy on their fight. According to the Bible, one of the powers of the Witnesses is prophecy. So it could be that Ichabod's remembrances really are somewhat prophetic. Of course I could be giving the writers too much credit. It seems the original concept really meant to explore what it meant to be Witnesses as it related to end of days, but that seems to have gotten lost in all the Katrina/Henry madness. I wonder if this crew has given it some more thought and are using it again? One thing read recently is that depending on the denomination of church in question, the two witnesses have a lot of different interpretations. Interestingly, early Greek texts where a line says "they share one body, one breath" or something like that leads some modern scholars to interpret that the Witnesses were a husband and wife team mainly because other places in scripture marriage is said to unite man & women into 'one flesh'. I only mention the Greek because of the Pandora connection this season. But if the writers did research on what it means to be a Witness they could have stumbled across this interpretation and might be playing with that which might lead to an actual Ic & Abbie union. Some food for thought.

That is an actual trope called 'Fridging.' It is based on a Green Lantern issue where a villain stuffed the hero's dead girlfriend in a refrigerator to find. It refers to when a character is killed off for the sole purpose of causing the hero agony so the plot can then be all about his reaction to her death. While any character close to the hero can get fridged, women are disproportionately the victims of fridging and it is done primarily so we can witness another trope in play, exploring the hero's Manpain.

I can kinda see this but I think it is more complicated than that. I have this theory that for any show there is the likelihood that every character has the potential to be likeable or unlikable at any time based on the writing of that character. But their reception by the viewer and how likable or not they are perceived in based on a lot of other mitigating factors. For instance there is the 'Main Character Exemption Clause' which basically says that the main character of the show is given a LOT of leeway from viewers in terms of behaviors they are willing to accept. Most main characters tend to be male. But this also applies to female main characters as well. So basically if you are a main character who is important to the story narrative, then you get away with a lot and even some of your more asshole-y actions get excused by viewers for reasons. If you aren't driving the narrative, then your chances of being arbitrarily disliked are raised exponentially. Unless you are 1) male supporting character or 2) funny comic relief or 3) bad-ass female. For the most part, I think people tend to like characters who are 'doing something'. Anecdotally it feels like male supporting characters tend to be written more proactively. Obviously this isn't true of every show, but on the whole, they feel like they have more active roles whereas females feel like they have more written in more passive roles. An example of this would be Breaking Bad where Jessie and Hank seemed like they did more than Skyler and Marie. But even in the case where a male character doesn't add more to the story, I think female viewers tend to be more forgiving of attractive male supporting characters who don't add anything to a story than they are to even attractive female characters who don't add anything to a story. I have seen the "she is so useless" lament way more than I have seen a corresponding "He is so useless" on discussion board. They can crush on cute male characters. To like a female character she has to be adding something important to the story more often than not. So in the case of The Flash, Iris was given a lot of flack last year because it was perceived that she had no purpose other than being Barry's ordained love interest. And she was given a LOT of hate for rejecting Barry's crush of her. Whereas Eddie didn't get any the ire Iris did even though she arguably had a more important role in the mythology of the show than he did. Neither did Cailtyn because she worked in the lab and was perceived to be more 'useful' and part of Barry's team. Comic relief also tends to be cast as male more than female. And being able to drop a funny one-liner all the time is almost a sure fire way to be liked. The only time a supporting female character tends to be liked almost universally is if she is perceived as a 'Bad-Ass.' Which says a lot because being a bad ass usually translates into her doing actiony things that are coded as traditionally male. Anyway this is my incredibly unscientific theory of fandom character acceptance based on observations of discussions on various platforms.