DearEvette

I know right? All I could do was shake my head trying to dodge all the anvils. But I can't get to mad at Rick in that moment. He was feeling a moment of real contentment. He was cuddling with bae, probably had a night of great sex, probably had the first full meal he's had in ages, was feeling confident in all of their preparations. So I get it. Ditto Abraham. Same deal... he got the girl he wanted and is feeling optimistic about letting someone close. His "I'm ready to rip the world a new asshole" sounded very much like Rick's "the world is ours". Sigh. Those poor suckers.

Yeah, i didn't get the significance of the scene my first watch. I had to re-watch and then put on closed captioning, because I couldn't catch what Abraham was saying. But Rick's face when he realized that Michonne wasn't back yet made my heart clutch a little. And then he just stood there waiting for her, not even bothering to stop by his house but instead just waited. And then with Abe repeating "any second now." Oh man. Not to be a Debbie downer, but man, I am can almost see the Grim Reaper stalking Glen. That shot of Maggie in the rear-view mirror as he, Michonne and Rosita are leaving felt significant.

Ah, I see you're coming from CDB in-universe perspective, but I was coming at it from a viewer perspective to give context as to why Morgan's position isn't necessarily wrong.

You don't have to care. However when discussing opposite points it is useful to try to bring in such things as perspective. The whole point of a discussion forum is discussion not utter dismissiveness.

Yeah, I think that is the whole point of the Abraham-Sasha-Rosita thing. Choice. I am not necessarily a fan of Abe/Sasha mainly because we got no real build up for it. But I am not opposed to them either. I am equally not necessarily a fan of Abe & Rosita's either. I was really rather meh on Abe and Rosita. They were just kinda there. They certainly didn't get the romance arc that Glen and Maggie got or that we are now seeing in the nascent phase of Michonne and Rick. The producer that was on Talking Dead kinda confirmed my thoughts about the how and why of Abraham choosing Sasha. She tied it back to when Deanna asked Michonne 'What do you want?" and now that they've had the opportunity to stop and breathe a little, they get to look around and think about what they want rather than what was expedient or convenient while they were on constant survival mode. And I agree last night was positive moment for Abe & Sasha.

Not really another role per se, but Sonequa Martin-Green and Lauren Cohan will be battling it out on Lip Sync Battle this Thursday. Here's a preview of SMG doing the Nae-Nae:

I don't disagree that Morgan's actions re: the wolf guy wasn't dangerous and stupid. But everything is a matter of perspective. We never get the wolf guy's perspective we don't know what pushed him to be what he is in that moment. Kinda like someone happening upon Carol shooting Lizzie in the head could make the assumption that she was a psycho child killer and needed to be put down. We constantly get "our" people's side of things so it easy to default to their perspective and feel they are right. But Carol herself is teetering to the side of a brutal and psychotic. Look at her response when finding out Jessie's husband was beating her. She used Rick's obvious interest in Jessie to try to manipulate him into killing the man right then and there. How many times did she whisper in Rick's ear like some modern day Iago "You know what you have to do, Rick." Egging him on to get the result she wanted, which would ironically also lead to getting a doctor killed.

Ha! Have you met Dre? But seriously, though, the show has given some subtle and not-so-subtle signals of the color divide between Dre & Bow. Like your breakdown about how black families talk to each other (this still happens in mine, btw, mostly among the older set. And yes my family members have a wide color range from true gingers -- red haired, green eyed & freckled -- to dark, dark jet skin) there is love, affection, and a whole heaping help of black solidarity, but there is also an undercurrent of knowledge of how color/colorism gets unpacked internally. But it is simply not done externally. You don't air your laundry in public, you do it in your backyard behind your fences. In the show, I noticed it was most overt when Bow's parents visited but there have been a few sprinkles here and there with Dre alluding to Bow's skin privilege.

This episode was so darned frustrating! Overall I have enjoyed this second half of S6, but this episode will probably go down as my least favorite one. Mainly because it seems like it existed for no other reason than for our characters to make out-of-character stupid decisions to put them in positions of vulnerability. They are not newbs to the ZA. They are survivors, all of them. The entire scene of everyone getting into a van to run after Daryl was just ludicrous. The actors couldn't even make their worry sound authentic. It was textbook "we must create an excuse move a small group of people from here to there to put them in jeopardy." I honestly think the time would have been better spent with them interacting with the Hilltoppers or if they wanted them to be put in a place of jeopardy, why not have a big meeting where they discuss the Saviors and have Rick ask for volunteers to go do some more reconnoitering to gather intel about the Saviors. It would have had the same effect of separating the groups and getting some of them captured. But it would have been accomplished from a place of logic and action and not a place of dumb decision making. I also liked the conversation with Rick and Morgan. Like it or not, Morgan's perspective is necessary given how Rick has become Quick Draw McGraw. Killing strangers just because they are strangers should not be your first instinct. I also appreciate that he acknowledges that his pacifist approach may not be right but it is right for him. Re: Michonne and the apple. I don't think it was meant to be some overtly sexy thing. This is probably the first time they've had fresh fruit in ages. I read it more as a treat she had been excited to get. Like a kid on Christmas morning, the first thing you do when you get up because you've been anticipating it. Also, yes, as dental hygiene. Sure they may have some toothpaste sitting around, but they've been so low on food as we saw that it isn't outside the possibility that toothpaste is scarce too. When going on runs, food would have been their priority. It actually makes sense. If they are slowly devolving back into a pre-industrial society they have to become more sustainable (Eugene's got the right idea). Using more natural stuff like apples, mint, eucalyptus oil, pulped strawberries etc. is more beneficial in the long run.

I know, I love how she said "I'm not proud of what I just did there." Ha!

This is a great panel. I am loving them and how insightful they are. YNB knows her show! And yes, Sonequa's comment about a person not being able to run away from themself is a great point.

Sonequa's hair, tho!!

It is filler and a plot heavy way to reposition the players like pieces on a chessboard. It it all set up an frustrating set up really.

Morgan isn't wrong though. They knew nothing about that guy and Rick was ready to shoot him in the back.

Ok, I really need to go see That Key & Peele Keanu movie. I am not even ashamed.

Glen just wants to go home. Why not listen to Glen? Everybody is being dumb. I just can't stand plotting based on dumb decisions.

Priorities!

Wait all that gunfire and not a single walker? They usually appear out of thin air right about now.

I can just picture Negan back in his headquarters when he finds out a few more of his people have been killed pacing furiously going, "Like, seriously? What does it take to get good help these days!"

Carol's car is a new Post ZA model. The Ford Porcupine.

Really Abraham? I did not need to know your ass was freckled.

I thought it was getting a little porny there with Glen & Maggie for a hot minute. LOL.

Oh man, I remember first seeing Andrew Lincoln in a British comedy called Teachers (on Hulu now) years ago. He was the main character, younger and with his native accent. I didn't realize til years later this same guy was our Rick. I think it was during a ComiCon early in the TWD run when I heard him speak in his real accent that it clicked for me who he was. Th character couldn't be more different from Rick.

Not only has it actually happened in Hollywood, but studios, agents and even the actors themselves have been complicit in participating in faux relationships. Sometimes it was done in order to hide gay actors/actresses sexual orientation. But most often it was employed as publicity to use the off-screen "real life" romance to create more interest and investment in the on-screen pairing a la Lina Lamont/Don Lockwood in Singing in the Rain. For a more IRL example there has always been speculation that Kristen Stewart and Robert Pattinson's real life relationship wasn't completely authentic considering they supposedly never verbally confirmed it and they broke up just before the final movie premiered.

But ...but... Riggs' did what Amelia should have been doing in that case, which was teaching the resident and allowing them to do a procedure on a service they should be learning. Amelia is so much in her feels about Penny/Derek that she was not doing her due diligence as a doctor in a teaching hospital. If anything, Riggs was being the professional in that case. Also, I don't thinks Riggs' assessment of Owen was out of line. It isn't because Owen healthily accepted his sister's death. It is because Owen keeps insisting that Riggs is the one that "killed" his sister and is holding onto a rather unhealthy rage at Riggs because of it. If Owen insists on being mad at anyone, he should be mad at his maybe-not-really-dead sister because she insisted on getting on the plane to see her patient. I presume she was a grown ass woman so she had some agency there. And honestly it may be a case of misplaced anger. He really is angry at his sister, but Riggs is the one who is conveniently around and is the only one he can unleash his anger out on. That doesn't mean I co-sign on Owen. I think he's a dick, really. Speaking of dicks... I thought Jackson's heaving anger just seemed so OOC. I felt like I was being manipulated to feel more sympathetic toward April. And I hated it because it was unnecessary. There was no need to show Jackson and grabbing her to sway opinion against him. In my opinion both April and Jackson are just the absolute worst. Separate, they are fine characters, together as Japril, they form one super annoying entity that makes me just want to nut punch them (thanks DeLuca!). One thing that their episode from a few weeks ago did was make it clear that they simply don't know each other and they can not communicate with each other. This episode crystallized that further. I am 100% behind April's refusal to use her child to hang onto a husband that didn't want her. I am also 100% behind her assertion that her body-her choice. But her refusal to proceed with her pregnancy with all available information about her child's health is just dumb. What is she not going to do any prenatal testing? Ultra-sound? Blood test to check for neural tube defects? Down syndrome? There are a bunch of simple routine tests that every doctor recommends for pregnant women. Not knowing about the possible health issues of your child in utero doesn't mean they aren't going to happen and doesn't mean you have to abort, but it does mean that you can make some psychological preparations. I sincerely hope they don;t get back together. Stick a fork in them.