DearEvette

I Know!! I had to rewind because I was sure that is what he said but the captions were telling me differently. I agree with everyone this was a great episode. I liked the different teams working together: Amanda/Angie- we don't get to see them work together often, I think I liked their teamwork the best because it relied on smarts and stealth and strategy. Faith/Ormy (ha!)/Franklin - Also a great team up. I really enjoyed their dynamic especially when you add in the archery girls. And then Will/Will's Dad - I liked that we got the back story on how the parents met. But I did raise my eyebrows that dad so quickly resorted to force. I think he broke that guy's hand in the prison cell? If Uncle Antonio makes a re-appearance I wonder what his reaction will be to knowing not only is his nephew in law enforcement but so is his father. I love the use of humor in the show and love how over the seasons the show has incorporated humor. As much as I liked the first season, it took itself pretty seriously. I think the tumor jokes, the archery girls snarking on each other, Will and his father making dinner plans (and making sure of dietary preferences) while multi-tasking with stopping domestic terrorists helps to cut the tension. There are fraught things happening but the little quips help you to breath amidst all the dire stuff. And it gives the show a lot of re-watch potential. I often find I'll rewatch episodes I found enjoyable over those that are just one trauma after another even when the ep is dealing with serious stuff. I really hope they don't kill off either Amanda or Ormewood. I am hoping this isn't that show. The actors looked very happy and upbeat during the Disney upfronts so maybe we will get a reprieve. Also, on a shallow note, I gasped when Amanda got shot becuase 1) it was right in the chest but also because 2) all that blood on that outfit!! I loved that plaid jacket.

Yeah, this is the case where the actresses negotiations fell apart off season. And frankly, this is a case where I think it would have been more merciful to the fans to kill her off. The show was in a bit of a lose-lose situation there because Grace's character was really popular and she and Judd were a great draw as a strong ride-or-die couple with excellent chemistry. But by the time the season came around they knew the actress wasn't coming back and the fans knew it too, so it was like an abrupt death anyways.

I don't think the death of a character is a bad out for someone who unexpectedly leaves or is fired with very short lead time or between one season and the next. That makes sense. And I think people understand that. But if the actor leaves because they got a new show or their contract is up... those are not last minute things. TPTB are gonna know if someone is auditioning, or if contract negotiation is going pear shaped. It is no coincidence that so many of these deaths seem to happen at the end of the season. They know something is up. I think the way Elsbeth is handling the character of Kaya is a textbook way to do this. For whatever reason (still not sure why) the actress will no longer be a regular on the show, but the show laid the foundation for how to explain her reduced role. They gave her a promotion that doesn't fit with how she slotted into the show initially. The promotion makes a ton of sense for the character, but it is to the detriment of the formula that we've gotten used to. So in a similar vein, shows can start planting the seeds of that person possibly not being there next season... put the marriage in trouble and escalate it so the audience can see it becoming untenable. And have the spouse leave and show the remaining spouse being served. A surgery or op that killed someone and it is entirely that character's fault... they have a crisis of confidence and conscience and decide to take a break and ... or maybe just set the seeds of extreme burnout or job dissatisfaction.... or maybe show the character planning their long delayed vacation via a grand round the world trip and explain later they met someone in Tuscany and decided to live, love laugh their way through the rest of their life there...A lot of shows have characters with a lot of past trauma, have the trauma resurface and make them go away to take care of it or deal with it off screen and explain they got a job elsewhere...introduce a new character that will fulfill the job/role that person has and slowly dwindle their effectiveness and create a jealousy/resentment storyline that has the old character quit/leave in a flounce announcing they got a job elsewhere. Lots of possibility for drama without killing anyone off permanently. And leaves the door open for a return. Yup. Recast.

Wait... does Martin know what happened.? I admit, I am consuming these episodes in chunks, so I might have missed something. But I thought something suppressed the memory for him and hence the dreams/subconscious is trying to force the memories to the front?

Oooh... Kat was my MVP today. Girlfriend has some superior Spidey senses since she was suspicious of Eva and Leslie all along. But recording Leslie who just can't shut up! (LOL) was a great idea. I dunno about Martin hitting June. I think that 'what is the color of your money' line feels very deliberate in the word choice. I am wondering if he was racially profiled or in some sort of race-based altercation and he killed someone. But yeah. Martin's interactions with Eva have been the most I've liked him. Although I do wish people would stop saying Eva is part of the Dupree family because she is NOT and it is so insulting to Nicole ( .. well at least until the inevitable big reveal). Under no circumstance are Dani, Anita, Kat, Mona... etc. interactions with Eva worse that Leslie's continues to be. Objectively she is treating Eva terribly, but it is 10x worse because this woman is supposed to be her mother. She has put Eva out of her house and mind until she needs her again to weedle up to Ted. Leslie keeps saying how she has more to come... I can only imagine that her hidden bombshell is to reveal that Eva really is Nicole's. I continue to love everybody's shade on her multiple names and wigs. And yes, we need more interactions between her and Bill. They are two vipers and it is fun to see them viper-off. But more importantly, there i a lot of energy in their scenes together. Honestly, I would DIE if all that animosity turned to lust and he ended up cheating on Hayley with her. The layers such a move would have! I can only imagine there was some behind the scenes issues with the Ted actor because that fact that he got replaced and not the block of wood that is Derek feels like it wasn't about acting... Shallow note: I loved that red lipstick that Kat was wearing on yesterday's episode paired with the checkerboard white/black sweater. She looked lovely. About the second family: I agree they need a second family. Not necessarily a rival family but a complete family that is some sort of contrast to the Duprees. It would have been good for them to have introduced the family early on --say Instead of Andre being Ted's nephew they could have built out Andre, Mona and Leslie and maybe Shanice as a more blue collar family. And since the show began with Ashley and Andre already having some sort of history it makes sense that they would have possibly grown up together since Mona and Jan are good friends. But at this point, they are gonna have to build out gradually or cut some dead weight.

Oh this was my favorite of the first three.. The dialogue was quick-fire and witty. The rats vs. moles vs. weasels vs. snakes.. The episode title itself is perfect. And then we have Beatrix triumphantly stating that Clive Owen is her informant. LOL. Good casting in Richard Kind, John Mullaney, Chris Bauer and Rhea Perlman! I honestly thought the FBI agent who liked plants and bushes might have caught Clive Owen (ha!) on his phone camera in the background exchanging the bullets. This was a nice, light change of pace from the previous episode that was filled with pathos.

This was a very good episode. I agree that both Fred and Greta were sympathetic and not at the same time. I felt bad for him because Greta had no right to assume they'd sell and he'd give her half. But, dude, get a lawyer not a fireplace poker. LOL. Charlie being a corpse was pretty funny. I liked the girl lunch scene. I loved how welcoming and supportive they all were of Greta. At the end though it felt very horror-movie adjacent. 100%. It played out the same which made me giggle, down to the horrified realization, and the 'No!' as the last word with the exact same expression on his face. That house and business was clearly all he lived for and with it gone, he felt no need to try to live. Which felt very fitting to me. Imagine how much good in the world Beatrix Hasp could do if she put her powers of finding people to good. Nobody would be a missing person for long given how well she manages to find Charlie.

Agreed! Will Trent is so much fun. It has great writing, nice humor, character growth, excellent acting --- believe me, there is one character you dislike in S1 who now everybody seems to really like and root for in S3 and whose growth has been so very well done -- and then there are the guest stars. A show like Poker Face (rightly) gets a lot of love for its' guest stars, but Will Trent is right up there. They aren't big names at all, bu they make so much of the material they get. There have been a couple of times the show has casted young actors to be younger versions of the current cast and the younger actors are spot on... really incredibly so. And Amanda's fashion alone is worth it! She is so fly!

This part. Feel how you want about Ted, but Nicole is the victim here. In these situations, it is the wife who becomes the object of pity, not the husband. Ultimately she was the one who bore the heavier humiliation. Ted was simply exposed. In the end they hurt Nicole way more than they hurt Ted. Well, of course she is a reminder of all that. Their reaction isn't because they are Duprees. Their reaction is a human one that anyone would have when confronted with what Ted did in the way that was set up Leslie and Eva. Even the jankiest of person living in a trailer park is gonna circle the wagons against a cheating husband's illegitimate child and his side piece. People are just not that evolved. And frankly, Leslie and Eva brought this on themselves. Like Nicole said, Leslie could have come to her any time with the proof. Instead she chose to play head games and she involved the Duprees. She went to the Duprees family home first (even before going to Ted) and kept talking about how Eva was part of their family. If this weren't a soap opera where it is a pretty good bet that Eva will be a Dupree, I think the Duprees were actually way more restrained than regular people would be. I do like Eva, but she does not get to be absolved. She helped to engineer the whole. Publicly humiliating a woman and family who did nothing to you except give you the fricking keys to her house, was gonna pay for you to go to school, and who even took your part over her own daughter is not it. The old saying 'Don't start none, won't be none' exists for a reason. Anita has every right to come out swinging for her child. Now, whatever it is they did re: Martin.... that is another story.

Mona was the MVP today. Close second was Anita. When Eva wobbled her lips saying how she'd lost everything and Mona leaned toward her, compassionately touched her hand and said 'Good' I fell the hell out! And then she went and unloaded on Leslie. I was waiting for her to connect the dots about Laura, but I guess they aren't ready to pull that trigger just yet. I like how everyone understands Leslie used Eva like a weapon but still holds her responsible for her own actions. And I don't blame Kat for still feeling some type of way. It has only been a day and they all have to be pretty raw and working on emotion. Reason will come later. So Leslie has something else up her sleeve. Hmm....

Not just any old fundraiser, but one for a food bank! I thought the Marie Antoinette of it all was being done ironically, but nooooo. That woman really thought she was a Girlboss who just wanted the people to eat well. LOL. Her entire speech was a buffet of privileged cluelessness. It was nice to see Tara again and I enjoyed the call back to the Girl's Night Out as well as the way the reveal re-wind went. The score card for their head-to-head snark offs: Sophie 2 - Alexandra Bligh - 0. I also liked that this one Sophie asked 'Do you remember who I was with when you snatched me?' was very reminiscent of their earlier spy-vs-spy conversation where she asked Bligh 'Do you remember how this all began?' To prod Bligh into understanding that she'd made a mistake in dismissing a threat. Gina Bellman's line delivery is so smooth.... I could listen to her whisper speak like that all day. Breanna's fan-girling was funny. I actually found Parker quite the revelation in this. She can be quirky, but as she was laying out the plan with Tara, her line delivery was staccato, very business like, well thought out, and a little scary. That was the first time I could believe she was the boss of a lot of splinter Leverage organizations, not just the person with a case of arrested development who just liked to steal things. I am glad she and Astrid bonded. Although, Astrid's dislike of Parker 'displacing' her makes no sense. Parker didn't come into Sophie's life until well after Parker was an adult. Archie was Parker's parental figure. Good episode and how apropos that Tara made off with the watch.

Yeah, the more you think about it the more it makes no sense. It feels like the idea of 'hey let's get this one actress to play all these parts' overrode making the internal logic coherent. Was it an fertility drug + parent trap situation where they got five (maybe six) daughters but the father and mother split and he chose one to keep? And why would a woman that ruthless and with that much money have such an inept lawyer? Yes, I know he had to spill the beans to make the murder happen, but still... Maybe in addition to being mean she was cheap and he had good rates? And finally, the police fingerprinted the dead woman and found out she was Amber. In order for the police to identify you by name with fingerprints wouldn't they need your actual prints on file to compare them against? How would they know the dead woman was Amber unless they had Amber's prints available? LOL... I am thinking about this too much. On to the next one.

So glad the show is back! But honestly, I was a bit underwhelmed. Agreed about the plot logic holes. Also, unpopular opinion, but I feel like the clothes did more the differentiate the sisters than the acting. I always felt like I was seeing one person in different costumes. I was expecting a lot of Cynthia, but honestly -- Lil' Rel Howery who played Taffy Boyle and of course Judith Light and S. Epatha Merkerson as Irene and Joyce jump out as really memorable guests star high bars for me. She won't over time.

100% unrealistic, but fun as heck! Who knew the local detention center for rich people was basically jail summer camp? Of course Chloe didn't go to the pokey. She was too beautiful and sophisticated and waay too connected. If she is going on junkets with judges she is not even seeing the inside of a courtroom, much less a jail. So many callbacks and Easter Eggs. Half the fun of the episode was finding them all. But my real question is... is Ramen as currency a real thing in jail? Because that was also the hot item/currency in Brooklyn 99 when Jake went to jail. I am still so sad about Kaya.

Seriously. Because when Ted intimated that he wanted to speak privately with Bill in the most polite way, Bill was all 'This is Hayley's house and you won't ask her to leave.' etc. etc. But when Dani said 'Girl, bye this is grown folks business' Bill did not utter a peep about Hayley being respected in her own house, just stood there with crickets chirping, even though Dani directly and flagrantly disrespected her while Ted had not.

Not just that, but as Kat keeps rightly pointing out, Eva was the one who convinced Nicole and Ted to have the party, a party neither of them asked for and Ted even kept trying to get out of. I really like Eva and feel that she is truly as much a victim of Leslie as Nicole is and I want her to emerge triumphant in the end. But, Nicole and Kat are also victims of her. Kat's actions toward Eva sprung from her very justified suspicions that something wasn't right about Eva. She just didn't decide out of the air that she hated Eva. She has an absolute right to be extra salty toward Eva because of what Eva did outside of the whole Leslie business. That said, I believe in true soap fashion, at some point their enemy-ship will turn to friendship. Maybe waaay after the obvious love triangle being set up with Tomas is resolved. Speaking of, yeah. Tomas failed the first test. Regardless of how fair and compassionate he wanted to be, that was NOT the time to defend Eva. And like I said, Kat can be mad at both Ted and Eva. I am loving the relationship we are seeing between Dani and Nicole. Dani always referring to Nicole as 'Sissy', the gift of the teddy bear. I love that they are so solid and supportive of each other. Also Dani's make up looked super gorgeous. By contrast, I agree Eva looked a hot mess. As she should have after spending a night in her fancy dress. And Nicole is still in her make-up less, hiding in the house state. They both looked just right. As did Hayley who looks like the trashy ex-side piece she is. Bless her heart. Ok, so is her real name Dana or Leslie? Ted and Bill keep referring to her as Dana. Was Dana her real name and she changed it to Leslie after going into hiding from Bill? This was a great episode capped off by the incredible scene between Eva and DefCon Dana. Everybody is bringing it!

Will and Ormewood imagining and dialoguing a steamy tryst between Pete and Amanda was almost worth the entire episode to me. As was the gym guy having a one-sided bromance with Ormewood's torque power and supplement intake. I liked everything about the episode, even the 'what are the odds' reveal about Will's dad up until the plot-gods intervened and put Nico, Betty and Ormewood in that hospital. The road there was not organic at all. You could all but see the neon the show was putting up to direct everything there. It felt clumsy. But like I said,the rest of the episode more than made up for it. I really liked th crime scene shenanigans. That was a nice piece of scene-work imo, between all the actors, the camera cuts and the quick fire dialogue + some humor. I recognize the actor who plays Will's father as the guy who played the tortured Preacher who turned into tiger on Midnight, Texas... a show whose first season was really fantastic (yeah, I said it!). And yeah, the actor is only about 15 years older than Ramon Rodriguez (according to Google) but Sonja Sohn is only 16 years older. So they are aging Amanda and Sherrif Broussard up.

I think that as well. We've had our Leslie/Eva reveal but that is just the start. We still need to know if Eva really is Ted's and or even Leslie's-- Leslie's DNA testing can't be trusted. Depending on that answer it spurs off a whole lot of other possibilities. What happens with Eva now. And for that matter, Leslie. They can't get rid of her that easily just yet. She is too delicious of a villain and outside of Bill, the only one really. There is still the truth about Leslie's role in Laura's accident and heart attack. But if the show was smart they'd hold on to that for awhile. We see Martin acting out so of course this may spur the next story -- the background of what Martin did and how that might come out. And since we know that Bill was involved in both the Leslie storyline and whatever happened with Martin in the past, it opens up some storytelling possibilities for Bill away from Dani and Hayley.

I agree that the last few eps have been soap gold. Amongst all the angst there were three parts that made me laugh out loud... First was Nicole's true bewilderment when everyone had a different name for Lelsie/Dana/Shelly "How many names does this woman have?' Second was when Dani said (re: Nicole)- "If I was her..." a beat of silence and nobody said anything pondering crazy Dani vs Crazier Leslie. And third, was when Dani called Eva a conniving little bitch and Anita did that Jada Pinkett Smith gif... Also agreed that everybody brought their A game. Leslie is a grade 'A' perfect soap villain but I really like how they writing Eva throughout all of this. The actress was able to thread a very fine needle between being in the wrong, but being believable conflicted about it and also being likable. I like the idea that Eva might be Nicole's. That is also very soap opera. I am wondering... has Ted ever flat out admitted to sleeping with Leslie. He keeps saying things like 'I was wrong.' and 'Yes, I didn't tell you the truth' or 'She never told me she was pregnant." things like that. Even Leslie says 'This proves she is part of Ted's family.' It feels like the show is hedging its bets and might pull a Ned Stark/Jon Snow on us. But yeah... I like the Eva as Nicole's possibility a lot better.

That was one of my theories very early on. Only because Andre always seems to low key flirt with women and he never seemed to flirt with Eva.

First thing I said when I saw her in that yellow coat. Elsbeth has gone full on Big Bird! Bored rich guy saying 'It's not easy being me' made me immediately flash to Gob Bluth singing 'It's not easy being white." 😂 This show loves their in universe characters, Rich boy mentioned TruRose from the Duck Confit episode. I HATE the idea of Kaya leaving. But at least they aren't killing her off like so many shows seem to be doing with their popular regulars. I know the show wants to bring back a rogues gallery of former murderous guest cast, but the method of getting Elsbeth in their midst felt as convenient as some of Elsbeth's leap of logic. Still... very interested to see how it plays out. Also still hanging onto hope the Judge will be exposed somehow.

This is pretty true. But I think the one place where this type of female character gets a HUGE pass is in genre tv/movies. This fandom loves their Badass Women and give them the same pass that they generally give male characters by right. I am thinking of say, Carole/Michonne from The Walking Dead, Zoe and even River from Firefly, Brienne, Arya and Danearys , heck even Cersei from AGOT. Just to name a few... Unless the men are straight up evil (and sometimes not even then) would they be despised. But let a non-Badass coded woman do anything out of her prescribed area or even say one word of criticism toward a fan-favorite character --even if she is completely right -- she is despised. But if a male character criticizes a fan favorite they wonder excitedly if he being intriguingly set up as a possible rival or rootable anti-hero? And speaking of Anti-heros. Male anti-heros are lauded and loved and excuses made for them for being complexly written. But if a writer tries to legitimately write a female into the same mold as the male-anti hero, that female character is rarely if ever afforded the same status as anti-hero. She is usually deemed unlikable or just a bitch.

The scream I scrumpt when I saw BonBon and Josiah! And how well they worked into the side-side plot of helping Ormewood get his affairs in order! Good job show. And I will add Bernadette to the long line of really well acted guest stars. This show is really outstanding at casting these not big name actors in these small parts and they deliver. I loved how the actress portrayed Bernie's broken world weariness only then to turn around with her finding herself again in the end. And I really hope Will turned his own corner this episode. I am so happy Pancake survived. I would have been so upset. I liked the little homage to Westerns with Faith and Broken-Nose guy doing the stare down before drawing on each other. Dang, Angie is just a hot mess.

I think by that time enough time had passed and so much renovation had happened with things being moved around and everyone just handwaving Lily's supposed inept organization and overall chaos,that people just assumed it was not worth mentioning?

I had seared Ahi Tuna (marinated in soy sauce, honey, sesame oil, garlic, chili flakes) sliced in thin slices, accompanied by rice noodles (stir fried in a sauce of hoisin, peanut, sesame oil, soy sauce, little bit of brown sugar) and roasted baby bok choy.