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The RAC is fully independent and go wherever they are needed, so they operate all over the galaxies, even outside of the Quad system. I got the impression that their are RAC outposts everywhere and Dutch & Co. seemed to be kinda stationed in the Quads because that is where they are from. I actually like 'The Warrant is All' because it explains so much about them and the broad authority of the Killjoys. From the first ep, you could tell that as RACs they have a lot of leeway to do whatever they need to do in order to enforce a warrant. Dutch flashes her badge and knows it will get her out of anything if it is in pursuit of the warrant. They are outside of the local laws. During Ep2 where they go to that bombed out place, Sugar Hill to rescue that girl and where everything seemed completely lawless, the minute Dutch showed they were Killjoys it defused a hostile situation. But, like we saw in this last episode, if they are doing something that isn't in pursuit of a warrant, then they are subject to the local laws. It is also a kind of rule for them because nothing should get in the way of a Killyjoy pursuing their warrant. Fancy is the embodiment of this credo. I think if the writers stick to this then their world-building logic will make sense during the course of the series. I would have preferred them not to dip their toe into the sexy time this early in the show's run. If Dutch and D'Avin showed some real chemistry over time then I would have been all for it. I am a minority on this board as I actually like D'Avin and am not 100% opposed to a future D&D get together. That said, the sex worked for this episode only because of the aftermath. And that said, the idea of Dutch and Johnny getting together does feel to me like a brother and sister. Johnny gives off a sweet puppy vibe that simply doesn;t work with Dutch's cynicism for me. She feels like she would be too much for him. Which is why if they had to/have to go there with one of them getting together with Dutch I do prefer it to be D'Avin.

The Dystopia/Post Apoc Little Women will be on the CW, what are the odds Peyton List will be in the cast? Whoever runs CW just loves her.

Welp. That was kinda epic. The first half of the ep kinda set up some pins and was feeling a little laggy, but then the second half blew in and knocked them all down rather awesomely. I was feeling very disappointed that they decided to go there with Dutch & D'Avin and then the last half of the show just made it all work so well. The fight, fall out & aftermath would not have had the same emotional punch if they hadn't had sex. And I loved the last scene of the two of them together. Well acted by Hanna John-Kamen and Luke MacFarlane. Even my feelings for Pawter shifted from the first half f the show (annoying) to the last half (kinda bad ass) Meanwhile, I have to say the story is really moving. No lagging on finding out what happened with D'Avin and we got more layers in Dutch's personality. I hope this gets renewed.

The hour went really fast. To me that is the sign of a story that is actually moving. I agree on the Lucy stuff. How awesome and frightening she is. Right now I am really liking her and Ethan's dynamic but I can forseee them coming into conflict possibly. And that will harsh my glow. Molly's alien thing is also interesting only because what does it all mean? Of all the stories, hers is the only real mystery. What is going on? How will it come out? How does she fit in with the alien society? Also it is interesting that Lucy is named 'Lucy' but in a way Molly is also a Lucy (referencing the Ethioipian Lucy Australopithecu) in that she is the mother of a new species. And of course, Lucy was created in Molly's image so at some point they are going to meet (hopefully) as two different spurs of a new type of evolution. Of course I knew The Governor-Toby has the hot feels for Molly. It took him about a nanosecond to start schucking off his clothes when Molly went into her sex-fugue. I was a bit disappointed that JDM kinda brushed it off as just a slap & tickle when he kinda knows that Molly's goes to a weird not-there sexual place. If nothing else this season is 100X better than last just because of JDM and his gruff-sexy self. And yes, Molly is a mess! I hope she gets it together. And even though I can't stand Julie, I appreciate that they are giving her character some layers. I actually kinda felt sorry for her when they were all clapping over Lucy's kill. She should feel triumphant, but she knows she's compromised her science for personal gain and the result is going to be potentially catastrophic.

My theory is that Dutch is probably a member of one of the Nine families. Maybe an illegitimate child or whatever counts for illegitimate on Qresh. And Khylen works for Dutch's family. Even though the nine families are referred to as monolithcally powerful, we've already seen in the one episode how they are not above trying to gain advantage over each other and how tense everything was when it seemed like the one family would be completely wiped out if that kid wasn't born. Since the weapon can literally obliterate an entire bloodline, whoever has control of it would have an immense advantage.

I was completely neutral on the Bones Crossover. I like Bones but my reaction was more of a 'how can they mesh the two shows' than 'oh this a bad idea'. But since it appears that Abbie is gonna be FBI that creates a connection right there, But now that you say this, I kinda like the idea of Abbie & Booth doing an eye-roll off while Ichabod and Brennan out pedantic each other. Actually I am kinda looking forward to Booth's reaction to Ichabod.

So they have a Season 2 re-cap clip running on Hulu.com (it is actually a trending clip so yay!) and it is ALL Abbie & Ichabod. Very, very little Katrina. You'd think she was barely in the season. http://www.hulu.com/watch/823443

I love how the baguette is like... hanging out all free to the world and germs. I can understand if you are buying direct from a bakery. But at a grocery store? How does it get checked out? Does the check-out person handle it? How do you know someone else didn't pick up that baguette with their germy hands (seriously the handles of grocery store carts are petri dishes) and sniff it before setting it back down to pick another baguette? Produce is one thing, you wash it before you consume it,. but bread? In my store the baquettes are actually wrapped.

Clint Howard. He's shows up everywhere and his face is really distinctive. it was just like five years ago or so I realized he was Ron Howard's brother. So even now, when I couldn't think of his first name, I googled 'Ron Howard's Brother.'

Yeah, I think part of the lament was that, that 'pretty shopping' was seemed to presented at the norm regardles of the supposed financial situation. Only on a show like Roseanne, where part of the identity of the show was the blue collar-ness & near-poverty of the Connors would they show the opposite. It was like it was a direct answer to the 'pretty shopping' experience.

I remember a friend of mine was lamenting that fact that people on tv, when they go grocery shopping, always shop with cloth, sustainable bags and they always buy french baugettes that peek out the tops of the bags very picturesquely. Also their vegetables always have the leafy tops on them, esp. carrots. We wondered if people on tv every bought bagged carrots with the tops cut off? Or pre-fab baby carrots?

Yeah, I think this is one of those 'YMMV' deals. For me, the speculation about what they mean/do/feel is part of the fun of a show like this. If they don't tell enough, then it can be frustrating and problematic because you are doing too much specualting. If they tell too much, then they run the risk of 'telling' and not 'showing' and that much exposition slows down action. In my opinion, I personally think the show is hitting just the right happy medium for me. Coincidentally, one of my favorite Sci-fi/fantasy authors these days, Ben Aaronvitch (seriously if you like reading genre fiction, his Rivers of London series is fantastic) tweeted about Killjoys just a few days ago: This is a good precis about how the show seems to be approaching its storytelling.

I watched, I think, at most 3 episodes of season1 and bailed. I thought Ethan was creepy and thought Molly and John had an antiseptic marriage. Serioulsy. Halle and Goran and no chemistry,imo. Decided to try the first ep of this season to see if I'd like it better. I do. Much better. I binged all the eps and now I am looking forward to watching live. I am liking Ethan 1000x more this season. I am rooting for him to get back with Molly so hard! I liked his trek to find her in this ep and the little bit of suspense --would they connect? wouldn't they? -- that small subplot added was welcome because I knew it could go either way. JDM is smokin' and I am liking the relationship he has with Molly. I am also enjoying Lucy so much. I saw Kiersy Clemons in the movie Dope about a month ago and even though I knew who she was it took me a minute to connct the dots because she gives Lucy such a 'mechanical' tone sometimes, the actress allows herself to lose some animation in her face when she plays Lucy. And even though I find the bigger overall arc of trying to kill the aliens a good one, I am enjoying all the little subplots they are juggling: Julie (even though I hate her), The Governor (yeah, I know he is Toby but he will always be The Governor to me) and his feels about Molly and his girlfriend's feels about Molly, whatever is going on with Molly, Charlie. And finally, I like the bit of humor they infused with Molly's latest pick up. His facial expressions -- both at the diner and the next morning -- were gold. And his big, white briefs. "Call me!" LOL.

But I think the clear difference is of personal autonomy. With the one, she had no choice -- she was a small child who was in essence being abused, coerced and most likely her personal freedom was proscribed. As an adult with the RAC she chooses what warrants she wants to pursue and has freedom of movement. In other words, a slave picks cotton because his master makes him and he hates it. But if that slave was now a free man with a farm of his own, he'd happily pick his own cotton. And maybe in being able to choose what warrants she picks up, she feels she is actually helping to bring justice rather than being used as a weapon to kill people for reasons she is never given. With her old mentor I got the impression that he never bothers to explain to her why her targets were to be killed. So for all she knew she was killing decent people just to get them out of the way so bad people to get ahead. Given that he is trying to force her to go back to what she knows is a life of no freedom and no choice and doing something that she finds anathema to her, I think that is her fighting against that is a very strong character motive.

Per the THR link, Lance Gross isn't SH Police, he is an FBI Special Agent in Charge. So apparently there are some major changes in Abbie's profession. She is no longer with SH and finally did go to Quantico? So.. time jump obviously. And of course there is a field office in SH.... This of course could explain why they released Orlando if the law enforcement piece is being shifted to FBI rather than SHPD. And where dos that leave Sakina Jaffrey? Is she still involved in SH? She was recurring, but still....

Can I talk about Fancy for a minute? Cuz this episode was, imo, a character establishing episode for him as much as it was a world building episode outside of the core three. This is how you do a recurring antagonist really well. He is a clear rival to our heroes but he isn't necessarily a bad guy. They've established he is pure RAC. 'The Warrant is all' and in pursuit of that he creates awesome inventions whose sole purpose is to bring in the warrant. Also because of it he'll do some things that are unpopular and may seem unfeeling or cold, but he is coming at it from a place of conviction. I thought it was interesting that while the other RACs were joking and hanging out he sat apart with his back to them, both at the start of the show and at the end of the show. Probably telgraphing that he will not create relationships with them because, as we saw, they may be called to hunt one of their own. And as we saw, none of them but him could pull the trigger on Joe. Anyway, I thought it was a really good character study given in small but important bites amongs the bigger story. By contrast the Pawter stuff felt off. As @MissLucas. says, it felt jarring and took me out of the story and made me slide a little to the negative side of the scale for a character I was largely neutral on. One last, small complaint, I wish the Killyjoys were a little more gender & racially balanced. i think I counted one other woman outside of Dutch and one other POC other than Dutch & Fancy. The show is much better about diversity than so many other shows, but in a gathering of Killyjoys I would have wished it wasn't so overwhelming white & male still. And finally on a very shallow note, the bartender guy is so pretty it almost hurts to look at him straight on.

I never hated Laurel on Arrow. I always felt sorry for the actress especially in season one. In genre shows a female character is only instantly accepted if she is one of two things: bad-ass or cool. Laurel was neither. She was the pre-ordained love interest, saddled with the dual thankless roles of being a laughably bad, overly earnest lawyer (seriously go back and watch some of the law stuff they had on the show in S1, really bad, even by tv standards) and sometime damsel. She was doomed from the start. If they had given the character a bit more of an edge or made her a little darker while also throwing obvious hints re:her transformation to BC earlier, I think her reception might have been a bit different.

Yeah, I like Rachel too. She is a perfectly fine character, imo.

Yeah. Seriously if we hadn't had 'Sexy Betsy Ross' thrown at us, then the temptation to face palm this wouldn't be so high. But this sounds more in line with what we want to hear about. Pandora opening her box has a lot of potential. But still would it kill them to give us some Team Witness intel? Geez!

Yeah, I am going to give them a chance. I am still a fan of Tom, Nicole and Lyndie and want them and the show to prosper for the right reasons. I am chalking most of this up to terrible PR. I keep remembering how people lost their shit when the plot details of 'Tempus Fugit' came out. People were calling for a boycott of the ep. Of course it turned out to be the best ep of the season. So yeah, we'll see....

Imma have to go with Lucious Lyon on this one: - Throwing your gay son in the trash, just be an overall homophobic shit and heaping that on the kid's head all his life - Ignoring your brilliant oldest son who has a mental illness, allowing him to lie for you, reneging publicly on an agreement you made with him, thereby exacerbating his illness - showing marked favoritism to your youngest child, providing no boundaries, paying his way out of trouble so he doesn't learn that actions have consequences, trying to appease President Obama because said dumb youngest child insulted the President. - driving a wedge between your children and their mother (the woman you allowed to take the fall for you and then promptly abandoned) Yeah, he's a peach

I actually watched Downton Abbey for about three seasons, but I love soap operas. That said, I have been baffled for years about the Downton love when it comes to awards. I do not feel it is any more a quality show when it comes to writing or characterization or plot than Empire or Nashville or Scandal. Sure, it is fun to watch stuffy rich people in pretty clothes and big castles, but the plot is pure soap opera and the character development is about as deep as a puddle. And veteran soap watchers can telegraph storyline developments a mile away. And I don't know if this is a UO or not, but this also extends to Michelle Dockery who I feel has all the emotive ability of a block of wood and yet gets acting nom after acting nom go figure.

I just had a quick thought on Lucy's behavior re: Dutch v. Johnny. Lucy is Dutch's ship. As such Lucy as AI may be in some small way an imprint of Dutch herself, or at the least has picked up and internalized some of Dutch's behavior. In which case, it is very likely that Dutch would not override critical safety protocols just to save herself, but she would to save Johnny (see that attitude repeated with Red Box guy at the end of the epsiode, she is willing to defy him when it is just herself on the line, but when it comes to Johnny she can't). So maybe Lucy's actions are just a reflection of what Dutch's would be. Even so the humor of the moment was very well played.

I think in S1 they had no idea what they had. The expectations were low, but when the ratings started rolling in they did do some pretty good PR for the show. Before the show started they did that real charming Fox media lounge thing with Tom & Nicole. In January of S1 Tom & Nicole had that cool TV Guide cover. In March was the SAG foundation Q&A with Tom, Nicole, Lyndie & Orlando. In April they did Paleyfest. Between S1 & S2 is where the good PR really took off. Early June last year was when Tom and Nicole did that Q&A thingy at the cemetery. They did that Hitfix interview, that infamous LA Times interview (the one where the interviewer said they had no chemistry and where Tom coined the phrase 'Keep it Beharie'). They had the Emmy Magazine cover ...they were everywhere and that was before SDCC. And then the awesome poster hit. They were saturating us with Tom & Nicole goodness as early as June 3rd. last year. And because we were getting so much good Tom and Nicole face time, and Tom was saying how Ichabbie shippers would be happy, people weren't even thinking too hard about Katrina. And the lag time between the end of S1 and the publicity of S2 was very, very short. Also, even more interesting, the first casting news of Matt Barr as Hawley came out in May 2014. Here's the TVline article here: http://tvline.com/2014/05/27/sleepy-hollow-season-2-cast-matt-barr-bounty-hunter/ Notice how different the tone is from Sexy Betsy Ross' casting notice. Sure Hawley was being talked up as being rugged and attractive but he is there as a part of the Team. To Aid Ichabod and Abbie. Big contrast with how they sold SBR. So yeah the fuckwittery of S2 did way more than just damage the storyline, it created all sorts of ripples that hurt the show.

I concur that this was a fun, smart episode. I especially like that the main baddie didn't die from Dutch's cool explosion device thingy. It was a result that made sense and was consistent with the mythology created for this episode, The nanites will see you are damaged and repair you. I like that Dutch, Johnny & D'Avin forgot that for a minute (as did I) but the 'show' didn't. So when the guy popped up again, it wasn't some cheap 'energizer bunny villain' stunt, but rather what should have happened given what we'd learned about their environment. And now I'll take a moment to fangirl over Dutch. I loved her getting caught -- again the result was not what I was expecting. I loved her jumping out into space to get to Lucy. Lots of fearless actions taken as the result of some logical decision making. And yes, I loved her pragmatic & loyal response to D'Avin's big secret. She is full of win that girl! And finally, I am fine with the red-box stuff. I have a suspicion it will tie into something rather big and I am curious as to what that will be.