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Count me in as happily unattached. I have not the slightest desire to marry again or even be in a long term relationship. I am perfectly happy with my life as it is. I realize there are some really great relationships out there, but I also see some really sad ones. Shannon's is certainly a case in point. However, there are too many women like Shannon and Vicki. Any man is better than no man.

That is probably all true and correct and I will go to hell for being evil, but I really don't care. I would totally walk away from that idiot Kristen if she tried to engage me in any conversation. She is just such a waste of time. Kristen, honey, everyone thinks you are stupid because you clearly are. Go away. I am enjoying B being a total bitch to Kristen and Heather. I was only disappointed in her last night when she started being nice to Heather. Yep, going to hell. I am being forced to revise my opinion of Dorinda. I didn't think she could come back from calling the gentleman of color to take her coat, however, she is winning me back. Her boyfriend is still a tool though. What is with these attractive, competent women and their douchebag boyfriends? Dorinda and Vicki in the OC. Ladies, trust me, sometimes it really in better to be unattached. Of course Josh is a douche too, but I have come to believe he and Kristen deserve each other.

My ex has been undergoing Chemo for the last 7 years and he actually gained weight. Surprised the heck out of me. He also has not lost his hair to the consternation of many of the women patients he sees regularly while undergoing the Chemo treatments. However, he has many other, less visible side effects, including some severe issues with foot pain, which I knew nothing about prior to his experience. All that said, I just don't believe Brooks. I realize it is unthinkable to most of us that someone would fake Cancer. I think most people would just be too afraid of tempting fate. But, honestly, I think that man is such a liar and phony I can totally see it. Maybe he had an actual, real cancer scare. Many of us, at least by a certain age, have had that scare. The really dark mole, the lump that blessedly turns out to be a cyst. I can see him having something like that and then running with the lie. It's despicable, but there you have it. I don't put it past Brooks. Vicki just makes me sad sometimes. I cannot hate her, in fact I agree that, warts and all, she is the best housewife of the entire bunch in all the franchises. That doesn't mean she's the most likable, not even to me, but she is pure reality gold. I also don't think she is truly evil like say, Tamara or Brandi. She's just brash and clueless. However, she is also a reasonably attractive woman with a great career and a gorgeous home. It's so sad that she puts up with such a POS just to avoid being alone. I am so thankful that I am comfortable on my own. I wouldn't have got through one dinner with that phony, slimy con man.

What happened to these show? I do not watch BRAVO Trash for deep, depressing storylines. I want to enjoy and have fun snarking on these clueless broads. The new chick was only moderately entraining because of the editing monkey's juxtaposing her waxing poetic about her soul mate while said soul mate showed himself to be a complete tool .Well done editing monkeys. The rest of the show was bad. I really, really, really give not one fuck about Tammy's boobs or an other body part. Yawn. I always love me some Vicki, and my ex husband has been battling cancer for years, so I hate to be skeptical about such a horrid disease. But, I am and that makes me sad for Vicki. I also really, really, really do not wan to see her collapse when her mom dies. Worst of all though was the entire marriage of doom segment. Wow, David cheated. Who knew? I called it last season. Shannon, honey, this bimbo was not the first and if you keep him around, mark my words, she won't be the last. However, I really don't want to watch this. The marriage is over. Move on. Heather is an absolute pretentious bitch I actually liked her the first season. Shame on me. I was so looking forward to OC. It was my first. I live in the OC, and one of my best friends lives in Coto. Now they are going to ruin this with all the dark, depressing storylines, just like they ruined Beverly Hills this year by trying to create a BRAVO version of Intervention. Now, I get to watch their version of Marriage Boot Camp? Ugh. I'm depressed.

I just have to say that I find it amusing that people seem suprised that a "journalist" at FOX news didn't provide a hard hitting interview to a couple of right wing Christian fundamentalists. Shocking.

This. I am a Christian and I am heterosexual. However, I lean more toward the "judge not, lest thee be judged" philosophy though. I don't think it's my place to place judgments on the sex lives of consenting adults. I don't believe that the God I believe in wants us to spread hate. To anyone. However, I won't lie, as bad as I feel for the victims, I love watching these horrible people squirm. I love that they are losing their show. Certainly not because they are Christians. Because they are hate filled, judgemental, lying liars who lie. And they are Hypocrites, with a captial H. I am sick to death of the idea that people like this want to perpetuate that it is only the godless heathens of the world that want to bring them down. I know plenty of practicing Christians that want to see it.

I thought it was endearing and I am not a big Dorinda fan. I am pretty sure I have some Christmas decorations people might find cheap and unnattractive like my 60 year old pink and blue plastic angels that my dad bought for my first Christmas when I was 24 days old. They have been displayed on my mantel every year since, along with some lovely,expensive decorative garland (green and very real looking), and gorgeous chrystal candle holders. They don't match the color scheme, they definitely look cheap, they don't match the style, and they will need to be pried from my cold, dead hands one day if I am ever to give them up. Christmas can be very sentimental and nostalgic for people.

You all are being too hard on poor Heather. I mean sure, both Carole and Dorinda are widows. Sure Ramona's husband publicly humiliated her with his affair. But for cripes sake people, Heather lost her Nanny!!! Have you no sense of what is important in life? Seriously, I am completely hating Heather this season and completely enjoying it because I have always sensed she was a controlling bitch and now it's on grand display. I would have reacted exactly as Bethanny did to Heather's intrusion into her plans for eating. Seriously, her plans for eating? Bethanny is a big girl. I am pretty sure, based on her figure, that missing a few portions of a few dinners is not going to be a new or unbearable experience for her. Also, although I am not allergic to it, I will not eat any fish other than shellfish because it makes me, literally, gag. So, if I were served non-shellfish, I would eat around it. Heather is a bossy bitch and is pissed off that Beth isn't interested in being BFF's with her and will not take her mothering. I would be seriously pissed about her making such a big deal about what Bethanny was going to eat. I also want to know who that short, blond, rational and even tempered woman impersonating Ramona is.

i agree I too am liberal but I don't blame politicians for cozying up to him before they knew about this. Mike Hucabee however....

Yes, but that discretion was easily argued as freedom of speech. No matter how reprehensible we may find any celebrities opinion, opinions are just that and everyone has a right. No harm, no foul. This is quite different, and yes, this show, I believe is over. However, as has been suggested, I wouldn't be surprised to see TLC do some type of revision of the show with just the girls. I don't think it will work at this point, but It still wouldn't surprise me.

Dr. Phil will pay. My apologies to Diane Sawyer, lest anyone think I am comparing her to that hack. He paid the baby killers parents including her mother who committed perjury to protect her, so I am quite certain he would pay the Duggar's. They might have to set up some phony ass "charitable" organization like the Anthony's did. Of course the only charity the Anthony's ever donated to was themselves or the baby killer.

I read Tammy statement about Josh Duggar and RADAR reported correctly Anyone that has "MIXED EMOTIONS" about child molestation is an idiot. Oh wait.....this is Tamara, isn't it cute when my gross son rapes Gretchen in my bathroom, Judge. Idiot defines her.

ITA. I was a Carole Fan in the beginning but I can barely stand her now. I do recall the mention of selling the chair in her first book, which is a wonderful, moving book, and I seem to recall that they did need the money, to renovate or buy, I don't recall which or care. It was their chair, through Jackie, and their choice. Just because they sold that particular chair does not mean they don't have other mementos of the late President. I do know the Radziwell's, while rich by my standards, were not so rich by say, Onassis or HIlton standards. I don't care for the whole sex in the city routine Carole is trying to pull off and I am not sure I buy much, if any, of it. Kristen isn't bugging me as much this year, but that is probably because she seems to barely be in it, which works for me. Still don't like Dorinda. I do like Bethanny, I can't help it and she is exactly the type of woman I could hang with.

That's good then. I like the show, but if Thomas and Kathryn are broken up I hope they keep Kathryn. I don't like her, but she is entertaining as hell.

So, based on my experience as BRAVO's bitch for many years now, we will know next week if the show is being renewed. If they announce a reunion it is, if they don't, it won't be.

I'm just curious about the 4% that actually voted for T-Rav. They should be tracked down so we can revoke their voting rights. And I detest Lindsay Graham. I don't like Landon. Kathryn is trash and way overreacted to Landon's simple statement but Landon does get on my last nerve. I can't exactly pinpoint it, but her whiny voice doesn't help. Kathryn is to this show what crazy Kristen is to Vanderpump Rules. She is a complete whack-a-doo, but damn she is entertaining.

Yep I'm out for the afternoon. I just can't. Yep I'm out for the afternoon. I just can't.

I was 8 years old when JFK was killed. I watched Ruby shoot Oswald. My Uncle was an active duty Marine and his unit, as well as many others were on high alert because no one really knew what was happening. Subsequently, I think I read almost every book published about possible conspiracies for about the next 30 years. There is another episode of MM, can't remember which one it's in, but it shows a brief clip of Johnnie Carson announcing that, after a 15 minute new report on Vietnam, his guest would be New Orleans DA Jim Garrison. That, of course, is the character Kevin Costner played in JFK . Prior to the movies release I had won a long game of trivial pursuit by answering "who was the only person ever tried for the assassination of JFK?" All those conspiracy books had served me well.

Jackie had held her husbands brain matter in her hand and handed it to a doctor at Parkland. Five years later she watched the man that had tried to step up as surrogate father for her children, Bobby, gunned down in a hotel kitchen. Four months after that she married a man that had been pursuing her for years who was rich enough to protect her children, provide them a safe haven away from the US, although she never gave up her New York Apartment has home base, nor her children's heritage. She raised those children, arguably the most famous in the world at the time to be, by all reports, polite and well balanced adults. If the worst thing you can say about a "celebrity" kid is that they failed the BAR Exam twice before passing, I say you have done a damn good job. Sorry, off my soapbox now.

Megan damaged the show irrevocably, IMO. As for the Kennedy assassination, I thought MM depicted it perfectly. My mother cried for the entire weekend as did most of the neighborhood mothers. Even those that had not voted for, or politically supported JFK. Trudy summed it up perfectly when she said "this is America, I don't care what your politics are, you just don't shoot the President". I always say it was our generations 9/11. Those same feelings of grief, anger and fear and yes, for people we didn't really know. Add to that the beautiful. poignant funeral, which Jackie deliberately planned to capture many parts of Lincolns funeral, the beautiful young widow and the two adorable tiny children.........it was very moving. In fact, I confess that to this day, the sight of tiny JFK Jr. saluting his fathers coffin can still bring me to tears.

Which is so realistic. She adored him but so many disappointments. From not bringing back th birthday cake to the constant cheating. It all adds up and just chips away at a marriage.

I hadn't planned on watching this last night but, of course, I couldn't tear myself away. It reminded me how I got so hooked. The first three seasons were just magic for me. Not sure why, but I still love them, and have really always believed the show was at it's best then. What struck me last night, was I had forgotten how, especially in season 1, Betty was still so smitten with Don. Just the way she looked at him, how sweet she seemed to be to him. The show did an amazing job of showing how all those little disappointments, as well as the big ones, just chip away at a relationship until it's just gone.... Also, has anyone else caught the new add with the song "Remember"? Holy tearjerker, Batman. Especially now, knowing Betty's fate. Maybe it's been shown before, but last night was the first time I caught that particular Gem. Good grief, how I will miss this show.

Do you suppose they are taking care of the missing dogs as well? I like to think so.

I am glad I am not the only one that had this feeling. It's not exactly news that Sonja is delusional but delusional really jumped the shark last night. Partying with Madonna and JFK Jr. who has been dead for almost 16 years? Wow. Not funny at all, just sad. My Housewives are being ruined. All of them. This started out as mostly mindless entertainment. Snark of the superficial famewhores of OC, N.Y. Beverly Hills. Simultaneously enjoy and envy the house porn. Not exactly deep, but fun. Now Beverly Hills has turned into Intervention, the "star" of NJ is doing jail time and now we are going to watch Sonja dissolve into complete mental illness? Maybe it's just me, but this isn't what I signed up for with these shows. I can enjoy good drama and am still reeling from Mad Men on Sunday night. The difference is, those are fictional characters, no matter how invested I may be in them. These women are real. I want to snark on them without feeling guilty about it. I can do that with Vanderpump Rules and Southern Charm. I want to do it with the Howives, but if BRAVO continues to deny me that pleasure, I'm out. I have been BRAVO's bitch for a long time now, but I gave up New Jersey two seasons ago and only watched the first two episodes of Atlanta this year before giving that one up. I will not be back for Beverly Hills if Kim Richards and Brandi are. Do not make me give up New York too. It's cruel. But then, it's also cruel to televise Sonja's descent into insanity. BTW. No one that actually knew John Kennedy Jr. ever called him John-John. Not as a child and certainly not as an adult. That was actually a creation of the press. That alone told me she likely never met him much less partied with him, even 16 years ago.