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[Actionmage]

I love Nick and Juliette's house on Grimm. Strangely enough, the West house on The Flash, seems almost identical. Same architectural style, different specifics.

[Actionmage]

First, radishcake? Those knit pieces are wonderful!

 

Secondly, The Tick. I was probably older than Fox Kids was aiming for. I was probably older than Mr. Edlund was aiming for with the comic. I love everything about that insane world. I still have a Thrakkorzog action figure with rotating tongue!

[Actionmage]

Doctor! Doctor! had the awesome Julius Carey, before he was Lord Bowler in The Adventures of Brisco County, Jr.  He was why I gave Brisco a chance! *g*

 

eta: I also fell hard for the silliness of Fox's Banzai (2003). Lady One Question and Mr. Shake Hands Man were amazing. They were super committed to their roles and were fantastic.

Edited November 18, 2014 by Actionmage

[Actionmage]

As far as a place to try? Big Belly Burger from Arrow. Everyone eats Big Belly- Billionaires, their black drivers, IT girls, and middling snotty teens!

As far as a chef whose fare I'd like to eat? Gareth Blackstock, from Chef! Gareth may have been a play on 'bad boy' celebrity chefs, but the food always made me hungry!

[Actionmage]

Kryten from Red Dwarf! A million times more useful than C-3PO, Krytie was cool and was open to having a good time. He had his limits, though, and wasn't too afraid to tell you. Plus? Spare heads. 

[Actionmage]

For seeing a new dynamic, I would have liked to see Now & Again, in Season 2, work with the on-the-run aspect, as well as the potential re-integrating of the family.  Maybe, after he cools down, Theo would try to quietly find Michael and grudgingly accept  Lisa and Heather into The Apartment, or a new one.  Michael and Theo's relationship was strict, but inching towards respect on Theo's side and not-quite-friendship on Michael's side.

 

As for shows that should have stopped sooner? The Mentalist, after the 2-part season ender "Strawberries and Cream, Parts 1 & 2" [s3, E23,24]. It felt like the right call. If there wasn't time for a proper seasonal wrap-up, kick a couple of the stand alones out of the season (like  "The Red Ponies", "The Red Queen" or "Red Alert"), and had an episode or two to time jump and show the aftermath of the shooting and trial.  There have been some episodes that I genuinely enjoyed after that point, but the show felt kind of forced, to me, after the S4 premiere. The Red John reveal was another letdown, for myself.

[Trip]

I swear, I came *thisclose* to choosing "Cicely" instead of "Von Trapped" for my last Canon offering. In retrospect, wish I had. :-)

[heat]

Loved this episode you guys! Sarah, I loved Relativity so much. Big big fan of Herskovitz and Zwick projects, and Thirtysomething is the one I didn't get to watch as a kid. I would watch the crap out of it now. Off to read Tara's recap of Rags to Riches-I was clamouring for this!

[Actionmage]

Sleepy Hollow -- With Armageddon coming, why not the return of our lizard overlords, too?  One can go nuts (if you will) on the Tarrytown Psych hospital and free Captain Irving. Another can roam around and eat Moloch, so we can have a demon that doesn't go fuzzy and hurt my eyes. Or Moloch can be eaten and sort of merge with the dinosaur ( if so, preferably a T. Rex because short arms, duh!). 

 

With dinosaurs, not only will we get more awesome reactions from Orlando Jones, but the new sheriff might just have to admit this town is bonkers and the weirdo English guy is the least of her worries, especially as he seems to be effective against the weirdo threats.

 

Just sayin'.

[Actionmage]

While I think this character could be saved, still, there has been too much made of Katrina Crane's witchcraft and her being such a bad-ass witch that hasn't been backed up on-screen.

 

First, she gets pregnant and the coven is all upset with her. Fine. But she can't stay ahead of them enough to raise her son?  Who ,because no one else who cares for him is magical, suffers horrific abuse and trauma (18th century!). Her son eventually takes a demon on as a father figure and becomes a horseman of the Apocalypse.

 

Second, Katrina is supposed to be such a fearsome spell-user that there is counter-magic where she is being held. Okay, so why not show her practicing her spells  when she isn't with Headless and Henry?

 

Right now, I think that Aunt Clara and Tabitha could gang up on her.

[Actionmage]

Jack Malone and Samantha Spade, Without A Trace.  Also, if the actors really wanted their characters to get back together, then there should have been no Samantha/ Martin coupling. I always felt badly for Martin getting caught in that mess.

[Actionmage]

Fair Play: Why I Am The Greatest Player, or Buy This Book Or Grandma Dies For Reals!

[StarfireMEP]

OMG RAGS TO RICHES. The Rockin' Robin performance was spectacular. I recorded it and replayed it over and over. From your podcast to Netflix's ears.

[Actionmage]

While Mr. Actionmage and I enjoyed the Mini, we felt there were missing phones.

 

His list:

*The Communicator, Star Trek

*The Batphone, Batman

*Bosley/Charlie's Speaker phone, Charlie's Angels

 

My list:

*The Shoe Phone, Get Smart

* The Shady Rest's party line, Petticoat Junction (It was something that I never experienced, but it is cool to know that's how a number of folks actually used phones.)

* Tie: The toy phone of Billy Mumy in "Long Distance Call", Twilight Zone & The fallen line in "Night Call", Twilight Zone

[Actionmage]

The sex worker that gets props from me is Maggie, Criminal Minds. She was kidnapped and survived a literal house of horrors in the Season 2 episode "Legacies". 

 

The madam that gets props is Nandi, Firefly. Whether she has a "Heart of Gold" or not, Nandi is kick-ass and played by Melinda Clarke! Mess with her ladies at your own peril.

Edited November 15, 2014 by Actionmage

[Actionmage]

Which TV characters would you want to see on Reality competitions?

 

 

A) Root, (Person of Interest) on Big Brother; not only would it be ironic, but to see how long she would last would be fabulous! How good is her social game? How invested would she be in the goofy games? What kind of awesome speeches could she give if she was on the block?

 

B) Garak (Star Trek: Deep Space 9) on Project Runway; not unlike Root, seeing how this guy who doesn't suffer fools, deals with high maintenance designers and the judges could be awesome. How our fave Cardassian spy handles inanity and super-short deadlines could be fun. How would Tim react to Garak's vision? Would Heidi be impressed? Would someone suddenly not make it in one day?

 

 

[Actionmage]

My picks for--

Overstaffed: The Jeffersonian lab, Bones. If Temperance and the group are the lab folks, who exactly are the people getting turkeys ricocheting in their direction or who applaud one of Hodgins' other fun experiments? What are they doing there? Hoping to see Angela's dad?  (If they really are at the Jeffersonian for a reason, I will select another.)

 

Understaffed: Any Given Sundae, Once Upon A Time. Ingrid was the only employee? Who drove the truck for Henry to know about?  Did she make a nest egg during the Curse, or at least some of it? If she was closing the store to drive the truck, that was not smart, moneywise, correct? (I know, look at the show I'm talking about

Edited November 15, 2014 by Actionmage

[Actionmage]

What movie or movie franchise would you bring to TV as a series, and which character would be the bridge character? (Example: The Avengers-> Agents of SHIELD, with Phil Coulson as the bridge character.)

 

Movie: Next of Kin

Bridge character: Jessie (Helen Hunt in the movie), the wife of Truman Gates (played by the late Patrick Swayze). Truman, being a cop in Chicago, has made enemies in his career. Jessie, still teaching violin, has also been raising two rambunctious kids: a son, Gerald, and a daughter, Briar. Truman (potentially played by Don Swayze) is injured or killed and the Gates family mobilizes to protect Jessie and the kids. Some of the older cousins chose to stay after the danger is over. Jessie helps them acclimate to the city. One might even find fame as a chef. (Offal is still a thing, right?)

 

Think Due South, just not from as far away.

 

 

[Ubalstecha]

Man-E-Faces

That's the name of the action figure. Off the top of my head. Kill me.

[Actionmage]

ICAM with the "Home"/"Squeeze"/whatever else X-files, as well as S1 Twin Peaks. I saw most of those live and was.. uneasy for hours after watching.

 

Lately though, I was horrified and terror-stricken by one hour of  The Alfred Hitchcock Hour.  A little mediation called "Consider Her Ways." (S3E11)

While not as gross and gory as the examples already posted, I found myself yelling at the TV in quite an agitated state and wishing death on many characters. It is an hour, like "Home", that will stay with me.

 

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQJy-HYfMio

[Actionmage]

Emily and Zooey Deschanel.

 

Maybe they can have The Real Zooey ( and Emily!) Deschanel Show where famous pals drop by for coffee and crafts? Maybe have a vintage recording booth where folks, like Joseph Gordon-Levitt make singles of cool old songs?  Emily might have cool tips for parenting?

 

Or possibly, an Arquette clan something or other. Possibly on IFC or Sundance.  Maybe they can host movies for a day, each one getting a block of time and programming it, like on TCM(?). They can invite a couple of buddies to have brief TH between movies.

[Actionmage]

I see this thread and all I can see is poor Colton Hayes, from Arrow, trying to parkour. He executes a very cool flip, but he keeps spinning and spinning. I am the worst.

[Actionmage]

Adam and Crosby Braverman (Parenthood) open up The Luncheonette East, in Nashville?

 

John Cho's Henry Higgs (Selfie) can move to Starling City to help billionaire Ray Palmer rebrand Starling into "Star City" on Arrow. (If I am missing out on Amell abs this season, I demand more handsome men to make up for the loss!)  Alternatively, Mr. Cho can return to Sleepy Hollow and be awesome there some more as poor dead Deputy Andy.

[Primetimer]

Because pancakes. It's a pancake joke.

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[Primetimer]

In our all-anti-Canon EHG, listeners nominated three eps as their shows' worst ever. We voted. The outcome may surprise you!

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[Misanthrope]

Downtown Crossing is one of the busiest areas of Boston. It's basically one of the two main shopping areas.

Also LOL-worthy: there's no cars in that area. Those streets are blocked off.

[swimmyfish]

I'm a little surprised Downtown Crossing didn't make it into the NONAC. I definitely get the "no Dawson = can't be the worst," but, I mean, eeeeeeeeesh. It's super terrible.

Although, I do recall the TWOP recap of that episode being a particular bit of brilliance.

[Qoass]

While Downtown Crossing Boston is a busy pedestrian area during the day, it really did shut down to nothing weeknights after 8pm in that era.  I once went there after work to do my holiday shopping and was stunned to find all the stores closed after 6.

 

Edited to add that Dawson's Creek got virtually EVERYTHING else about New England wrong from the warm sunny winter evenings to the Confederate War monument downtown.

Edited November 17, 2014 by Qoass

[Actionmage]

As a kid growing up in Texas, The Mary Tyler Moore Show gave me an appreciation for folks north of me. We has slush, ice, and cold winds, but snow was the ultimate: rare neat winter item, but it meant folks were generally miserable.

 

While the WJM crew, while not as obviously freezing as the Game of Thrones folks, did not wear light shirts and dresses and pants while inside the station either. It was winter and they dressed like normal people do. It gave me an appreciation for their situation. When I visited a friend who lived in the area a few years ago, I felt very prepared to take on October up there.

[Actionmage]

When it was G4, I'd watch Campus PD. I don't know why, but I'd even watch the reruns. 

[Actionmage]

With the eventual dropping of helicopters, I thought that er could be reworked as a long-running workplace sitcom. Keep the cast turnovers, as that's a realistic touch, but there could be more open teasing of how super-serious Benton was, how much of a bed-hopper Ross was, and how naïve Carter was. Maybe step the nurses and orderlies screen time a bit more.   If they wouldn't use the iconic theme, then maybe a reworking of Jackson Brown's "Doctor My Eyes"?

[Actionmage]

Two characters enter, one leaves.

 

F/F: Zoe (Firefly) vs. Melinda May (Marvel's Agents of SHIELD)

M/M: Doctor Hannibal Lecter (Hannibal) vs. Malcolm Merlyn (Arrow)

Mixed: Jack Bristow (Alias) vs. Irina Derevko (Alias)

 

It's hard to pick a winner for the ladies, so I will weasel out and not pick, saying they'd end up knocking each other out after a long hand-to-hand battle because they are just That Damn Good.

 

For the gents, it is a battle of the handsome and charming sociopathic murderers. The not-so-good doctor knows where on his opponent to strike for maximum stoppage and/or pain, depending on his mood. Malcolm, The Magician, can ninja around and potentially distract our cannibal's eye. Both have zero fucks to give about how they are perceived, once in battle. It would be brutal, but  all either needs is a second and the fight is over. I might give it to our psychologist because Malcolm likes to talk and Hannibal could use that monologuing to end Malcolm and/or the fight. Alternatively, he could potentially talk  Malcolm into almost doing himself in, but end up being close enough to finish everything when Malcolm snaps out of the trance Hannibal's voice seems to induce

 

For the mixed gender fight? While Spy Daddy is the most awesome Spy Daddy to ever spydaddy, Irina? Fucks shit up. Jack has a weakness for Irina/Laura, but takes that into account. Irina seems to not exactly have a weakness for Jack, but has no qualms about taking Jack out to accomplish a goal. Triple no-qualms if the bottom line is survival. Bye, Jack.

 

As ever, mileage varies. These opinions are of the poster and is not the opinion of the site and those who run the site.

[Actionmage]

Longmire-- boost it to Showtime/HBO/Encore Westerns?

 

The cast was good. The stories mostly used location and characters to inform the action. It was a fresher take on the police procedural. A slightly grittier Andy Griffith Show, but set in Wyoming, as state that barely gets any attention in American primetime.

 

Katee Sackhoff and Bailey Chase were really well used and for an Aussie, Robert Taylor reminded me of the US tradition of taciturn Western lawmen, in a good way.  Adam Bartley, Louanne Stephens, and Lou Diamond Philips stole scenes and fans' hearts easily as The Ferg, Ruby, and Henry. Zahn McClarnon and Cassidy Freeman had the thankless jobs as opposers to many of Walt Longmire's plans, but you could understand them as people, so that was refreshing.

 

The recurring characters and guest cast is full of Hey!It's That Guys (and Gals!) A Martinez was chilling and wonderful as Jacob Nighthorse. Gerald McRaney was  awesome as Mr. Chase's TV dad, as was Robocop himself as Mr. Chase's TV uncle!

 

The show was comfort food with a new spice or twist. It was Good Guys being Good, but not piously so. They also bent the law a time or two. (Hence the pooh-poohers and grumpy folk.)

 

I am going on about a show that's cancelled, but maybe would've been a bit more appreciated and shepherded along a bit more attentively at a network that didn't favor a growing spate of reality shows over honoring their name's ideal- to present the arts and to entertain us.

[Actionmage]

I want Captain America to show up on Agents of SHIELD because I want to see Melinda May's reaction. 

 

Maybe see them working out- Cap trying Tai Chi? Could be gold. People running in and out as they do, asking May questions that she never answers. Steve can look on and silently realize why she's considered a great agent.  The ghost of a smile flits across her face as Cap gets back into the kata (?).

[Actionmage]

Fiction show: Cagney & Lacey

There was the three Christine Cagneys from TV Movie/pilot to Season 2! There was bts coupling stuff! How it was supposed to be a big screen movie with Ann-Margaret and Raquel Welch (supposedly)!

 

Nonfiction Show: Family Feud, from Dawson era to John O'Hurley era. Show how the hosts impacted the show. How/when the writers' decided to be "naughty" in an otherwise clean, all ages show. Why different iterations have/haven't done as well as Dawson's run. It could be a docudrama or a straight documentary, as far as I am concerned.

[Actionmage]

Not exactly reinventing, but reviving a show that ABC, again, cancelled way too soon. Update the cast, some of the scripts, but keep the premise:

 

Wonderland (2000)

 

It followed the doctors and cases of a Bellvue expy. (Here is a link to the IMDb page; the credits cast was amazing! http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0209557/?ref_=fn_al_tt_8) It also treated the patients as humans with problems. Leland Orser was one of the first patients and his case dealt with a myriad of topics including how to keep patients on their medications and how culpable unmedicated perpetrators are, not to mention Michelle Forbes' Dr. Lila dealing with a difficult pregnancy  getting more complicated and female professional situations, which as still relevant today.

[Actionmage]

What shows would you recommend for a newbie to a genre, and what would you suggest as a follow-up (or follow-ups)?

 

 

For the Spy genre: Start off with The Man From U.N.C.L.E.  It's light and fluffy spy stuff. There's lots of gadgets and typical 60s spy trappings- groovy chicks and the Cold War threatening to go very, very hot.

 

Depending on the person, I might give them I Spy or Alias as their next series.

 

For the Horror genre:  Start a beginner with Alfred Hitchcock Presents, the half-hour series.  As a follow-up series, since I am not a fan of the gorier entries, I would probably suggest Grimm and/or The Walking Dead. I'd offer these two because they are effective due to how you feel about the characters. There are plenty of jump scares, but there isn't just tons of gore, so relative newbies can ease into more effects heavy fare. A further step/suggestion would be Constantine and Hannibal. While Constantine is still very new, it doesn't shy from the gross or uncomfortable, due to the subject matter usually being dealt with ( fighting demons, literally.) Hannibal was a personal test for me. I was quite surprised at how I enjoy the show despite the gross displays and  disturbing imagery that is part and parcel of the show. Yes, there is an amazing eye to beauty, but it also shows how close the beautiful and the gross can be. (Cello!)

Edited November 18, 2014 by Actionmage

[Lisin]

Longmire-- boost it to Showtime/HBO/Encore Westerns?

 

You're vaguely in luck? Longmire is maybe going to Netflix.

[EllieH]

I'm surprised you didn't end up including any of them!

Somebody who watched more of Dawson's Creek (or rewatched it more recently) should offer up suggestions for --

1) Is there any episode good enough for the Canon?

2) Is there any better choice for a Nonac?

[SnideAsides]

Irrespective of whatever else happens in the episode, the "Dawson sings karaoke" episode is totally Nonac-worthy.

[jackierow]

I totally agree, any episode without Dawson can't be NONAC worthy. Especially because my choice for the canon, Castaways (the one where Joey and Pacey get locked in the walmart) is particularly awesome simply because there's no Dawson.

For the NONAC...does anyone remember when Busy Philips drunkenly crashed her car through (I believe) Dawson's house? I feel like that one was super awful. Or any episode with Natasha. Or when Eve was Jen's sister for a half second.

[Lisin]

For the NONAC...does anyone remember when Busy Philips drunkenly crashed her car through (I believe) Dawson's house? I feel like that one was super awful. Or any episode with Natasha. Or when Eve was Jen's sister for a half second.

 

That was terrible... but at least it made me laugh?

 

I am actually the one who submitted Downtown Crossing (and forgot to introduce myself. Oops!) and I realize that not having Dawson in it did elevate it beyond any other episode because Dawson. I just haaaaate Downtown Crossing so much because beyond all the terribleness of the actual episode it's also completely worthless to the show. There's no reason to have watched it. It didn't further the plot along in any way.

 

ITA that Castaways is great because 1) no Dawson and 2) it at least lets us know that Joey and Pacey are a possible thing again. 

 

Maybe for another attempt one of the ones where Dawson is full of manpain after Flash goes to the big ice cream shop in the sky?

[CamB]

It's funny that the two episodes that were submitted for The Canon and The Nonac did NOT include Dawson. But seriously, I love to hate that dude and I enjoyed all the nicknames that Sars and Tara gave him so I think it makes sense that some Dawson should be included in an actual Nonac-worthy ep.

 

Off the top of my head, a Nonac-worthy ep would be something like "Show Me Love" from sesaon 3. Yikes.

[Actionmage]

This is from the linked article; while factually correct, the italicized example seems dated to me.

 

Ad-supported networks depend heavily on advertisers, who are after younger audiences, practically dooming popular series like Longmire or NBC’s Harry’s Law whose viewership tends to be a little greyer.

 

Surely there's a more current "greyer" show?

 

Also, my nomination for Network-to-Cable: Mike & Molly.

 

It might free up the writers to explore more subjects without as much leash from network censors. Victoria's weed, Molly's extreme everything (debt/shoe addiction/eating/expensive trips), Samuel ( as a character), and the ever-morphing amount of folks who live where. There should be neighbors making clown car jokes or Tardis references, since it seems there is always a crowd living at the Flynn house! Maybe there could be a loosening of the Lorre grip? Not a complete absence, but just a lessening. More   "Opening Day" and "The Rehearsal", less "Mike in the House" and "Saint Patrick's Day"?

Edited November 19, 2014 by Actionmage

[karibeth]

Tara, I work in a school library and I have VHS copies of Square One in my back room that I cannot bring myself to discard. Who even has a VCR anymore? But still. I loved that show.

Edited November 19, 2014 by karibeth

[David T. Cole]

I think this special marked a sharpening of what The Nonac is -- from a terrible episode of a show to the worst episode of a show. There can be only one!

[Fukui San]

I think this special marked a sharpening of what The Nonac is -- from a terrible episode of a show to the worst episode of a show. There can be only one!

I was about to say that I didn't remember being THE worst episode being a NONAC requirement in the past, but it's been a while. It's a much higher (lower?) bar than the Canon. Also, it would mean that currently running shows would be ineligible as the possibility exists for there being a worse episode in the future.

[David T. Cole]

Well I guess we could revisit a show where a Nonac was chosen but then a moreer terribler episode came along.

[The Crazed Spruce]

There's a particularly infamous show that I've been planning to submit to the Nonac, but that series isn't streaming on Netflix in Canada, so I'm waiting for the rerun to air again so I can get all of the subtle nuances right. I mean, I could read someone else's recap, or watch someone else's rundown of it, but I don't want it to colour my opinion.

I assure you, though, it's truly, EPICALLY Nonacable.

[Kyliedawg]

dave if you can get over your aversion to dvd's thundarr the barbarian has been available on made-on-demand dvd from the warner brothers shop

http://www.wbshop.com/product/thundarr the barbarian- the complete series %281980-82%29 1000180186.do?sortby=ourPicks&refType=&from=Search

I too would love to see once and again and sisters available to watch and/or purchase!