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On 11/6/2019 at 6:22 AM, ByTor said:

Kelli even said this to Judy after Vivian left the room when she was cut.

And 5 years later that comment should still stand. Vivian's new drama (by replaying all of her feelings herself in this IG post) just makes her look equally lame....she's not grown a bit IMO, just replaying her pitiparty....no thanks

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On 11/5/2019 at 8:25 PM, scorpio1031 said:

Who all listened to it and what do you think? 

I'm not sure if I believe what she said. I do believe that cmt can edit the show to make you appear a certain way. 

4 hours ago, MikeDFW32 said:

I have a question? I know it has been answered before, but I couldn’t find the post again. What really happened with Ericka W.? Was she released due to her injury? Or was it due to poor behavior at the hall of game game? 

Unable to perform due to a shoulder injury, she was told to stay in the locker room at the HOF game.  She put on street clothes, went out to the bleachers, drank a beer and sent a pic of herself doing that out on social media.  Someone showed K&J and she was released.

6 minutes ago, MrsEVH said:

Who all listened to it and what do you think? 

I'm not sure if I believe what she said. I do believe that cmt can edit the show to make you appear a certain way. 

I kind of half listened - did I understand her right?  Does she blame the show for her eating disorder and drinking problem?  And apparently everyone she knows tells her she's pretty and an awesome dancer.

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9 hours ago, MrsEVH said:

Who all listened to it and what do you think? 

I'm not sure if I believe what she said. I do believe that cmt can edit the show to make you appear a certain way. 

I believe everything she said. I believe she was set up to be the “ character “ that would make us all dislike her for the shows rating. To be honest when CMT, K & J put  out that video this season making fun of her writing the poem,( also bringing up Malena’s cut)  I  found it disgusting and they both came across as two mean, nasty ladies. Yes, she made a mistake by writing the poem,  and took the heat and some hate from fans ( which is sad ) but there was no reason to bring it back up years later and humiliate Vivian once again,  all for ratings. I’m glad Vivian is at a place where she can discuss bullying openly. 

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Oh they ate Viv up like a spoon first round then figured out she’s nuts so cut her for weight. She had the perfect rags to riches Cinderella story but then they figured out she was going to be TROUBLE fast. So they cut her and brought her back for another story arc bc they knew she’d eat it up and give good film. They never intended to have her on the team a second time and she fell for it bc she is so narcissistic and desperate for attention. Cruel for k&j to keep making fun of her on camera but Lawd she was more than willing participant. When Kitty.is the one who is like ENOUGH IS ENOUGH LET HER GO what does that tell you?

But I agree it’s been five years so let it go, Elsa Finglass. Let it go. Viv is sort of trying to but you keep dragging her back in.

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I had to listen to Vivian's podcast.  Wow...............she is still selling herself.  No mention of how Kitty is the one who helped retool her first disaster of a solo which helped her make the training camp.  No mention that Kelli and Judy made sure the first season Viv knew that she would have made training camp without the fan vote.  No mention of what Kelli and Judy said to her about her breakup and showing him by getting her spunk back.  They really did support her.  Viv was outdanced her second season and got cut.  As to how she was during training camp, interesting that Viv was never seen as buddies.  Look at Lily who hung out the girls who made the team her first training camp and then got the Abbe Bear when she finally made it.

Viv goes into how the show made her into a character her second season.  Seriously?  They could have asked her about the fan vote for her to say how cool it would be to win it the second time but Viv is who first puffed up when they were going to announce the fan vote winner and then had the pissed off look when they announced Loren.  They did not script that.  She also states her mother thought they rigged the fan vote for her to lose.  

She admits to losing all this weight (30 pounds for the first training camp and then even more to come back) and looking in the mirror because it was so different for her but then switches to they made her look in the mirror.  Nope.  The team would be warming up and there would be Viv admiring herself.  All the time............. Pretty standard if you have lost weight you want to admire your new body but with training camp perhaps you need to focus on learning the dances.  Viv of course did not mention pulling out of the jump split.  Nor any mention of her struggles with the choreography the second year.  

Viv then stated this caused her to not make other teams.  Humm. Stephanie takes so many of the cut girls back to Allen Ice Angels that if Viv was so wonderful she would have taken her back in a heartbeat.

Listening to this podcast.................it's not changed my mind about her.  It's only solidified that Viv is one self absorbed young woman who cannot figure out her own actions got her cut and is still seeking the sympathy vote.  She admits she was hoping the poem would save her.

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21 minutes ago, Lexusprincess said:

I had to listen to Vivian's podcast.  Wow...............she is still selling herself.  No mention of how Kitty is the one who helped retool her first disaster of a solo which helped her make the training camp.  No mention that Kelli and Judy made sure the first season Viv knew that she would have made training camp without the fan vote.  No mention of what Kelli and Judy said to her about her breakup and showing him by getting her spunk back.  They really did support her.  Viv was outdanced her second season and got cut.  As to how she was during training camp, interesting that Viv was never seen as buddies.  Look at Lily who hung out the girls who made the team her first training camp and then got the Abbe Bear when she finally made it.

Viv goes into how the show made her into a character her second season.  Seriously?  They could have asked her about the fan vote for her to say how cool it would be to win it the second time but Viv is who first puffed up when they were going to announce the fan vote winner and then had the pissed off look when they announced Loren.  They did not script that.  She also states her mother thought they rigged the fan vote for her to lose.  

She admits to losing all this weight (30 pounds for the first training camp and then even more to come back) and looking in the mirror because it was so different for her but then switches to they made her look in the mirror.  Nope.  The team would be warming up and there would be Viv admiring herself.  All the time............. Pretty standard if you have lost weight you want to admire your new body but with training camp perhaps you need to focus on learning the dances.  Viv of course did not mention pulling out of the jump split.  Nor any mention of her struggles with the choreography the second year.  

Viv then stated this caused her to not make other teams.  Humm. Stephanie takes so many of the cut girls back to Allen Ice Angels that if Viv was so wonderful she would have taken her back in a heartbeat.

Listening to this podcast.................it's not changed my mind about her.  It's only solidified that Viv is one self absorbed young woman who cannot figure out her own actions got her cut and is still seeking the sympathy vote.  She admits she was hoping the poem would save her.

My favourite part was when saying how she’s traumatised that all the videos of her are still online...and then she spells her name out so the guy can look her up. 

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3 hours ago, RhiRhi said:

My favourite part was when saying how she’s traumatised that all the videos of her are still online...and then she spells her name out so the guy can look her up. 

Well that's what happens when you're on a reality show. The videos are gonna be around forever. And the poem was funny and weird, and of course people are gonna talk about it among other things she said and did. I thought she was nice and humble and low-key her first season on the show. The tin man thing was weird of course. Lol but she became over-the-top her second season. I know some people don't like the video of K and J reacting to the cuts and some people do. I didn't think it was too awful. But some people act like they have been making fun of Vivian for years. And that's not the case. CMT or whoever decided they wanted to do a reaction video to the memorable cuts and that's what they did...YEARS after her cut. It's not like they've been talking about it all the time since then and always remembering that and making fun of her. 

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Anyone that writes a novella about being over something and having compassion for her 'bullies', etc....is clearly NOT over it. Unfortunately for Vivian, her true colors came out in the 2nd season; especially her admiring herself in mirror and saying she had an injury, when she clearly did not. The poem speaks for itself! 

If CMT and Kelli did bring her back for Vivian Part 2, and had no intention of even considering her for team...well, that is bad. If Vivian was even a little self aware, she may have picked up the signals that they were not really interested in her. To me, it's aways quite obvious the ones they like from the start and the ones that will be cut. An example is sweet Gina Marie...the look on Kelli's face the first night of training camp said it all.

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23 hours ago, Lexusprincess said:

Viv then stated this caused her to not make other teams.  Humm. Stephanie takes so many of the cut girls back to Allen Ice Angels that if Viv was so wonderful she would have taken her back in a heartbeat..

Vivian was on the Ice Angels for 3 seasons so Stephanie did take her back after both times she was cut from DCC training camp.

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I was on her side the first season she made it as a TCC and the second year, she just came across as vapid.  Now, with that long drawn out response to K/J snarks, she should just truly move on and should not have responded at all (IMO).  An another subject, as a full figured woman now, she looks so different . . .

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21 hours ago, MrsEVH said:

Vivian was on the Ice Angels for 3 seasons so Stephanie did take her back after both times she was cut from DCC training camp.

So curious I looked at her Instagram.  She made the Ice Angels after her first T For DCC. .  That was after she made the Dallas Mavericks TC but not that team. Then she went back after her second TC once again making the Mavericks TC but not the team. Viv glossed over her time on the Ice Angels on the podcast. “ I cheered for a hockey team”. 
So I don’t buy her “ I was blackballed”  

and she does look way different these days 

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Just now, Tuxcat said:

Me too!  She was my favorite in real time. But now, I have no idea why.

I think she was the first fan favorite for the show and that's why she was so popular.  Since then we've had insiders tell us she was a mean girl and being popular went to her head.  But even before I knew that, I had stopped liking her as much:/

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3 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

I think she was the first fan favorite for the show and that's why she was so popular.  Since then we've had insiders tell us she was a mean girl and being popular went to her head.  But even before I knew that, I had stopped liking her as much:/

I liked her up until the 5th season when she used her clout to get her BFF on the team 🙄

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7 hours ago, Lexusprincess said:

So curious I looked at her Instagram.  She made the Ice Angels after her first T For DCC. .  That was after she made the Dallas Mavericks TC but not that team. Then she went back after her second TC once again making the Mavericks TC but not the team. Viv glossed over her time on the Ice Angels on the podcast. “ I cheered for a hockey team”. 
So I don’t buy her “ I was blackballed”  

and she does look way different these days 

I was mistaken with my post: Stephanie selected Viv in 2013 (after her 1st DCC cut) for the Ice Angels. Then took her back after in 2014 after Viv's 2nd cut from the DCC.  She also went back for a 3rd season too. You are correct she did make Mavs TC twice but no the team. 

I have seen or read some interviews with girls (not Viv) who were on the Ice Angels. They talk about the team like it was their first choice when it probably was their 2nd or 3rd because they didn't make another team (DCC, Mavs , Stars).

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6 hours ago, lah715 said:

I liked her up until the 5th season when she used her clout to get her BFF on the team 🙄

Better than using your clout to get someone cut.

But Stephanie was a good dancer and made SG.  I think she just couldn't get the DCC style and she was DCC heavy.  I am trying to remember, but Season 5 is just not one of my favorite seasons and I don't think I've watched it much since it originally aired.  I remember they cut a lot of faves - ie Katelyn Johnson, Paula T, Britney S, etc.  The one ep I watched on Pluto, Cassie seemed a bit peeved to discover that other girls could tumble as well as her or better...lol. 

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On 11/5/2019 at 8:25 PM, scorpio1031 said:

Why do some young people say "like" so much when they are speaking?  I'm trying to get through the podcast but Vivian says "like" so many times it is distracting.  As Judge Judy says "I don't want to her 'like' and I don't want to hear 'basically.'"

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36 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

Why do some young people say "like" so much when they are speaking?  I'm trying to get through the podcast but Vivian says "like" so many times it is distracting.  As Judge Judy says "I don't want to her 'like' and I don't want to hear 'basically.'"

This is one of my pet peeves...you will hear a lot of athletes using "like", "basically", and "you know" when they are being interviewed and it drives me nuts when I hear it.  I agree that it's distracting.

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9 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Better than using your clout to get someone cut.

But Stephanie was a good dancer and made SG.  I think she just couldn't get the DCC style and she was DCC heavy.  I am trying to remember, but Season 5 is just not one of my favorite seasons and I don't think I've watched it much since it originally aired.  I remember they cut a lot of faves - ie Katelyn Johnson, Paula T, Britney S, etc.  The one ep I watched on Pluto, Cassie seemed a bit peeved to discover that other girls could tumble as well as her or better...lol. 

Who used their clout to get someone cut? And why were the Cassie years the bitchy years?

13 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Better than using your clout to get someone cut.

But Stephanie was a good dancer and made SG.  I think she just couldn't get the DCC style and she was DCC heavy.  I am trying to remember, but Season 5 is just not one of my favorite seasons and I don't think I've watched it much since it originally aired.  I remember they cut a lot of faves - ie Katelyn Johnson, Paula T, Britney S, etc.  The one ep I watched on Pluto, Cassie seemed a bit peeved to discover that other girls could tumble as well as her or better...lol. 

Stephanie and 4 other vets got called in for weight. The vets were Meredith O, Kaitlin I, Jordan B, and another one I can't recall. Maybe Megan Sharp? She needed a larger size shorts at the cameo pictures. I also didn't know Stephanie made SG.

4 hours ago, Anduril said:

Who used their clout to get someone cut? And why were the Cassie years the bitchy years?

Cassie did.  She was complaining at the calendar shoot that the rookies were getting more camera time.  One of them confronted her and Judy told the judges at auditions the gal was toxic.

According to what has been said on this board and the old TWOP, Cassie was a mean girl during her tenure.  If other girls weren't nice to her, they paid the price.  Cassie is always saying that was years ago, she's older now, a different person, etc.  IMO, she knew darn well what she was doing and she liked it, and K&J should have known better to allow it.

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1 hour ago, scorpio1031 said:

Cassie did.  She was complaining at the calendar shoot that the rookies were getting more camera time.  One of them confronted her and Judy told the judges at auditions the gal was toxic.

According to what has been said on this board and the old TWOP, Cassie was a mean girl during her tenure.  If other girls weren't nice to her, they paid the price.  Cassie is always saying that was years ago, she's older now, a different person, etc.  IMO, she knew darn well what she was doing and she liked it, and K&J should have known better to allow it.

Who confronted Cassie?

15 hours ago, BluegrassDCCFan said:

But how would it have looked for the choreographer's daughter to get cut? IMO Cassie should have been cut/benched for that "asthma attack".

The asthma attack always came across as fake to me.  Based on what others have said about her being a mean girl, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that she faked that to get sympathy.  

If the choreographers daughter actually got cut it would make this organization look a little more on the up and up.  It would show it actually goes by merit.  They should run it like lots of other places do: if you are related to someone that works there, you can't apply.  This will still allow legacies because they don't actually work for DCC.  But if your mom or dad works for the Cowboys or the cheerleaders, then you are ineligible.  

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20 minutes ago, Anduril said:If the choreographers daughter actually got cut it would make this organization look a little more on the up and up.  It would show it actually goes by merit.  They should run it like lots of other places do: if you are related to someone that works there, you can't apply.  This will still allow legacies because they don't actually work for DCC.  But if your mom or dad works for the Cowboys or the cheerleaders, then you are ineligible.  

But it isn’t totally by merit and never has been, and it is a private fam owned business so it does not have to be anything besides what the owners what it to be. The whole very successful parent company franchise of the Cowboys is run in nepotism and it is one of the most valuable brands in existence.
 

Cheerleaders are like 1% of that whole empire so doesn’t really even matter if they have them or not. They’re unnamed icing on the cake not essential and not going to effect anything if they would go strictly by merit. 

Is it totally fair? No, but most of life is not fair or just and in the long run this really means nothing if some cheerleader is related to another employee. 

haha the fair come to town once a year and you still have to buy tickets to see a clown and pay rigged carnival games, sooooo

So yeah I think banning people bc related to others in this case is stupid and doesn’t really do anything to bring in better overall talent. If anything the way it is now draws in more talent.

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23 hours ago, MrsEVH said:

Stephanie and 4 other vets got called in for weight. The vets were Meredith O, Kaitlin I, Jordan B, and another one I can't recall. Maybe Megan Sharp? She needed a larger size shorts at the cameo pictures. I also didn't know Stephanie made SG.

She didnt ... the only rookie was Olivia ... basically season 5 most of the rookie candidates were sub par. 

46 minutes ago, lah715 said:

She didnt ... the only rookie was Olivia ... basically season 5 most of the rookie candidates were sub par. 

They didn't announce any other rookies making show group that year, but when the camera pans down the line of girls after they announced it, you can see Stephanie and Kaitlyn Legrande up there too. 

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6 hours ago, Anduril said:

The asthma attack always came across as fake to me.  Based on what others have said about her being a mean girl, it wouldn't be out of the realm of possibility that she faked that to get sympathy.  

If the choreographers daughter actually got cut it would make this organization look a little more on the up and up.  It would show it actually goes by merit.  They should run it like lots of other places do: if you are related to someone that works there, you can't apply.  This will still allow legacies because they don't actually work for DCC.  But if your mom or dad works for the Cowboys or the cheerleaders, then you are ineligible.  

So Cassie T and Dayton B wouldn't have been eligible because Judy and Shelly both work for DCC even though they BOTH cheered? And where would that leave Samantha F as her Mom is the "Director" and she's "interning"?

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53 minutes ago, dariafan said:

Nicole was just such a great person   Beautiful. Great dancer.  Nice.  Helpful.   More people should want to be like her 

I still like how Kelli wanted the girls to emulate her cause she did that little something extra that only Nicole could do - you know, like what Gina does now that people don't like.

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