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If you have Apple whether iPhone or iPad or Apple TV, you know you can just go buy it on iTunes? That’s what I did.   I made a burner email and made a burner account on iTunes, stuck a USA address on it, bought some US iTunes gift card and bought the seasons.   But if you only have iPhone don’t do it if you don’t have either iPad or Apple TV as well as iPhone just because Apple has this weird rule that on iPhones you can only switch to a different account that is in a different

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Just popped up on my Facebook .... looks like Tasha is still doing well with her modeling.  I have to say her rookie year she kinda of grated on my nerves and that bright pink lipstick 🙄but the season 12 (the Jenna/Holly/Erica saga year) when called into Kelly's office seemed very likable and sweet ... very genuine

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Every time I have to say it along with Kathy Bates: "So you want a different life, a different family?  Well it isn't gonna happen.  This is what ya got!"

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3 hours ago, lah715 said:

Just popped up on my Facebook .... looks like Tasha is still doing well with her modeling.  I have to say her rookie year she kinda of grated on my nerves and that bright pink lipstick 🙄but the season 12 (the Jenna/Holly/Erica saga year) when called into Kelly's office seemed very likable and sweet ... very genuine

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same here, as seasons went on I really liked Tasha.  I was shopping on amazon for something and she was the model!

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Watching season 3 and never realized Jay is a bit of a jerk .  Two girls from the first season are trying to get into camp again after one getting cut and another got married.  Those girls are in good shape and he made the comment about them having an expiration date ... 😡 WTH !?!?!? Come to think of it he has made snide remarks about some of the ladies in other seasons too.

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21 minutes ago, lah715 said:

Watching season 3 and never realized Jay is a bit of a jerk .  Two girls from the first season are trying to get into camp again after one getting cut and another got married.  Those girls are in good shape and he made the comment about them having an expiration date ... 😡 WTH !?!?!? Come to think of it he has made snide remarks about some of the ladies in other seasons too.

Carrie and Kristin; neither made it to finals. Not a fan of Jay.

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23 minutes ago, Cowboysfan16 said:

Here’s this gem I found! It has the reveal you’re talking about. 🙂

http://www.cmt.com/video-clips/qziydl/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-making-the-team-reactions        

I love the second one, when Kelli tries to casually announce it and then they play the sad trombone because nobody got it.  LOL, Judy's head shake just kills me.

It's not in this montage but the BEST announcement was when they were all hooked up in the kickline and Kelli said, "Look to your left, now look to your right, now look ahead in the mirror... this is our squad." 

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14 minutes ago, aeroluv327 said:

I love the second one, when Kelli tries to casually announce it and then they play the sad trombone because nobody got it.  LOL, Judy's head shake just kills me.

It's not in this montage but the BEST announcement was when they were all hooked up in the kickline and Kelli said, "Look to your left, now look to your right, now look ahead in the mirror... this is our squad." 

I posted that clip just upthread a few posts.  They released it on YouTube today.

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On 11/2/2019 at 7:39 PM, UnicornKicksBack said:

Eating disorder, mental health issues, adderall etc abuse. She’s doing well now. 

I can easily see how training camp could give someone an eating disorder.  And I'm sure there's all sorts of behind the scenes bitchiness that we don't see.  

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58 minutes ago, Anduril said:

I can easily see how training camp could give someone an eating disorder.  And I'm sure there's all sorts of behind the scenes bitchiness that we don't see.  

I think she was young and sheltered, got in over her head, has an OCD/anxiety  personality anyway, was mentored by some really wild child vets, just got out of control. All the ingredients for crisis. Nobody completely to blame. I wondered if she was possibly bipolar not making fun like serious. But high pressure environment, lots of opportunity to soar then crash, glad she had fam to get her out of that toxic mess. She’s another Kelli fave who prob didn’t need to be there in the first place. 

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On 11/1/2019 at 7:17 PM, BluegrassDCCFan said:

Does anyone happen to have a link to video of Cassie Trammel's rookie season Squad Reveal where she walks up to Judy crying and they hug?

I’m reading and about to watch this exact scene on Pluto.  It’s on a commercial break. 😉 I’ll film it and see if I can send to you or post 😉

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15 minutes ago, KickPretty said:

I’m reading and about to watch this exact scene on Pluto.  It’s on a commercial break. 😉 I’ll film it and see if I can send to you or post 😉

I've heard that the years where Cassie cheered were the "bitchy years'. Anyone know anything about this?

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The thing that stands out to me in Vivian's post is the bit on how she would have reacted a year ago, three years ago, five years ago, etc.  She's obviously gone through some personal stuff in the past five years, sounds like she self-medicated with alcohol, etc.  And her being a bit bonkers was VERY CLEAR her last season shown on the show.

I fast forward through the show during her bits because it's incredibly uncomfortable to watch, and I've got mixed feelings on her post.  I do think it [the DCC:MTT video with Kelli and Judy) was mean-spirited, but I also enjoyed watching it.  And heaven knows a reality show will exploit the raw material given, especially when it's so juicy.  I feel like Vivian played the cameras as much as she could, and now she's pissed that the attention she begged for isn't positive.

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On 10/24/2019 at 11:59 PM, IllegitimateDCC said:

If Nicole Hamilton never existed, who would be the gold-standard cheerleader of the "Making the Team" era? 

I have difficulties choosing between natural Maggie Rouse, the everlasting Nicole Bulcher and the power of Melissa Wallace. 

On 10/25/2019 at 3:18 AM, aeroluv327 said:

Maybe Lacey?  I know she's only recently retired but she is gorgeous, made the team right out of high school (I think?), literally kicked her nose in her audition, was a group leader.  She is a stunning dancer and seemed to be low-drama.

Everybody loves Lacey

On 10/28/2019 at 9:09 PM, vivianspoetry said:

She’s got my vote!

My vote also. As I said, I have difficulties choosing.

On 10/29/2019 at 3:31 AM, PhillyFan said:

Plus Lacey has the distinction of having Charlotte point her out to everyone around her as the standard and “in case you wanted to know what a DCC looks like”

This season Charlotte said that she would love to have 36 Amanda's.

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2 hours ago, Harrythecat said:

My question is did she get compensation for being on the show?  Did she sign a release?  

Yes and yes...they're compensated for their rehearsal hours, CMT camera time, etc.  I get hating that your personal drama and struggles are shown on tv in perpetuity, but better to acknowledge it and what you've done to grow from it, I guess?  Take the bad and leave the good.  She's self aware enough to know what will get camera time, so you'd think she'd use those same PR skills to paint herself in a better light here too.  She can feel her feelings, but I think she could have played her reaction very differently to create awareness and make herself look better.  Courtney Cook had wild speculation about why she left and her "where are they now" segment looked fantastic.

My favorite Viv moments:  her asking what to do about her gazillion facebook friends, and also Melissa Rycroft snarking that Viv hides her insecurities well.  

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2 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

Hmm I don't know. I have mixed emotions about all of this. On the one hand I do believe that the "Most memorable elimination" video was in poor taste. For whatever reason our culture has changed and I found the snarky cackling very uncomfortable and petty.

But to be honest, one of the things I enjoyed about this show -way back starting with the first season- was the snark. I loved, loved, loved Judy yelling at the TCC. And I loved the sarcastic remarks and judgement by high and mighty Kelli. It was much more pervasive back then. I truthfully kind of miss it because it was entertainment. Does that make me a shallow and less enlightened person? Or just someone watching a reality TV show. Because that is so often what reality shows feature - human nature - the good yes - but also the bad and the ugly.

Do the girls know that it's possible that Judy and Kelli will make faces at them on MTT? Do they know their body will be scrutinized on national TV? Do they know that Kitty will tear them to shreds? Yes! Vivian saw the show. And yet she signed up anyway.

Yes, she was young, impressionable, and vulnerable. And yes, to relive those moments over and over again is I'm sure terribly painful. She's clearly an empathic person and one who feels and thinks deeply about things. However if she were genuinely willing to display unconditional love and compassionate forgiveness she would not be calling Kelli and Judy out on Facebook and Instagram. By her stating that she feels sorry for them is in essence shaming them publicly. Perhaps they deserve it! But that is not pure forgiveness nor is it love as she professes this to be.

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Oh great merciful heavens...I only saw the snip she posted on her Instagram story and not the full thing. That’s A LOT. 
 

Like I said in my first post, mixed feelings about this whole situation, both the video that’s been out for months and now Vivian’s response. But I guess I’m low on empathy for someone who courted camera time her first season, knew exactly what she was getting into the second season, and has used social media to it’s full advantage including asking for funds to start her own YouTube channel. She’s savvy in a lot of ways, so I guess I’m not buying the whole “naive” narrative. This show has been on the air for 15 years and they’ve never candy coated a dang thing. 
 

Yes, it certainly sucks to have a snip of your life you would prefer to move on pop back up again, but I think there are better ways for Vivian to express her anger and annoyance. 

Mileage can vary, of course, but a short and sweet response when the video first came out would have made more sense than the novel. Her point got lost in the drama. 

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4 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

However if she were genuinely willing to display unconditional love and compassionate forgiveness she would not be calling Kelli and Judy out on Facebook and Instagram.

"I'm, over it...and I'm going to write a 25 paragraph post because I am just soooo over it" 🙄

3 hours ago, kalibean said:

Mileage can vary, of course, but a short and sweet response when the video first came out would have made more sense than the novel. Her point got lost in the drama. 

I would have given her a lot more credit if she said "I saw the clip, it hurt the way they made fun of me, but what was I thinking writing a poem??"

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While I hope that Vivian isn’t letting that moment define her etc etc, that post was a bit too long and dramatic for me to buy its truthfulness. and I agree with other posters- her loving the cameras turned on her but you have to know that’s a risk of reality tv!
 

but also, when I watched the Kelli and Judy video- what stuck out to me most was I truly think the biggest “laugh “ moment - they are laughing at Kellis face, in response to the poem, and not so much at Vivian directly. Still maybe in poor taste but not necessarily this big offensive thing where they laughed at her. I was more embarrassed for Malena than Vivian, in that video...

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I’d think Vivian was being genuine with her dissertation if she didn’t ask for people to donate to her to help stop bullying. (This was in her IG story which is now gone.)

She tried to make herself stand out with that poem (more so for the TV audience, I think, than K and J), misjudged and was ridiculed. She was on TV! She should’ve known that scene wasn’t going to die. She wanted to be TV ratings gold and she was. 

She has the right to feel embarrassed, but I don’t consider this to be bullying. 

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7 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

Hmm I don't know. I have mixed emotions about all of this. On the one hand I do believe that the "Most memorable elimination" video was in poor taste. For whatever reason our culture has changed and I found the snarky cackling very uncomfortable and petty.

But to be honest, one of the things I enjoyed about this show -way back starting with the first season- was the snark. I loved, loved, loved Judy yelling at the TCC. And I loved the sarcastic remarks and judgement by high and mighty Kelli. It was much more pervasive back then. I truthfully kind of miss it because it was entertainment. Does that make me a shallow and less enlightened person? Or just someone watching a reality TV show. Because that is so often what reality shows feature - human nature - the good yes - but also the bad and the ugly.

Do the girls know that it's possible that Judy and Kelli will make faces at them on MTT? Do they know their body will be scrutinized on national TV? Do they know that Kitty will tear them to shreds? Yes! Vivian saw the show. And yet she signed up anyway.

Yes, she was young, impressionable, and vulnerable. And yes, to relive those moments over and over again is I'm sure terribly painful. She's clearly an empathic person and one who feels and thinks deeply about things. However if she were genuinely willing to display unconditional love and compassionate forgiveness she would not be calling Kelli and Judy out on Facebook and Instagram. By her stating that she feels sorry for them is in essence shaming them publicly. Perhaps they deserve it! But that is not pure forgiveness nor is it love as she professes this to be.

I am so with you!  Although I see the points brought up by one of the other (extremely well-written) posts, this is reality TV.  The point is snark.  Do I sometimes look in the mirror and think less of myself for loving it?  Yes, yes I do.  If it was all about the dance, I would watch.  That's why I checked it out in the beginning.  But I stayed for THOSE moments.  Based on other comments here, most of us did.  (Some posters have come just to get there agendas across, all hail VK!). 

Our friend Viv came on with an agenda.  Her backstory and everything was designed for attention.  She was gorgeous.  She could have had it all.  But she focused on her agenda of Viv-promotion and not on being a DCC.  So she got attention, but as another poster pointed out, it just wasn't the kind she planned for.  

I am totally ok with the K&J clip.  It made them real.  I just can't pass judgement on them for doing the same thing we are all doing here.  Yes, they are more public.  But if you sign that waiver, that is the risk you run.  

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19 minutes ago, Opine said:

I am so with you!  Although I see the points brought up by one of the other (extremely well-written) posts, this is reality TV.  The point is snark.  Do I sometimes look in the mirror and think less of myself for loving it?  Yes, yes I do.  If it was all about the dance, I would watch.  That's why I checked it out in the beginning.  But I stayed for THOSE moments.  Based on other comments here, most of us did.  (Some posters have come just to get there agendas across, all hail VK!). 

Our friend Viv came on with an agenda.  Her backstory and everything was designed for attention.  She was gorgeous.  She could have had it all.  But she focused on her agenda of Viv-promotion and not on being a DCC.  So she got attention, but as another poster pointed out, it just wasn't the kind she planned for.  

I am totally ok with the K&J clip.  It made them real.  I just can't pass judgement on them for doing the same thing we are all doing here.  Yes, they are more public.  But if you sign that waiver, that is the risk you run.  

You said exactly what I wanted to say.

If Vivian would have put that much effort into her learning the routines, as she did writing that wonderful poetry, she would have made it.

Vivian was more involved with her own stream of consciousness than reacting to the needs of the outside world. She was already, as to paraphrase the eloquent Melissa Rycroft, 'in her head' before TC and got more into her head in TC, and that got her cut.

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1 hour ago, Pau84 said:

If Vivian would have put that much effort into her learning the routines, as she did writing that wonderful poetry, she would have made it.

Kelli even said this to Judy after Vivian left the room when she was cut.

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Vivian's post is over the top just like her 2nd season and her ridiculous poem.  Vivian's road to DCC became Vivian's road to fame.  From her discussing her thousands of fans, to her very pissed off face when she did not get the fan vote the 2nd time, to her lyrical solo which was way out of her wheelhouse, Vivian's second training camp was cringeworthy.  Vivian sold her self as this poor child brought up on hot dogs her first yea but had years of dancing classes.  Vivian tried to create a brand for herself the first year but we still all rooted for her.  The second year, I just could not.  Vivian saw herself as a star of a reality show and it blew up in her face.  

I remember a clip that was not shown on this of Judy and Kelli asking Vivian where was her spunk? why did she do lyrical? where was the hip hop dynamo? and when Vivian discussed a breakup, Kelli in a very mom and concerned voice told her not to let the guy win.  Bring back Vivian's spunk.  They (Judy, Kelli,and Kitty) were clearly rooting for her but Vivian spent most of training camp primping in a mirror.  The first season Kitty helped pay for her second costume and change her solo so she would not be laughed out of auditions.  the quote "mean" girls did a lot to help her.  All of Vivian's  focus should have been spent on her dancing.

The self awareness to not even admit the poem was ridiculous, unprofessional, and plain bad shows Vivian never learned anything.  The clip shown this year really focused on Judy laughing at Kelli's face.  Who could have kept a straight face in that train wreck?

Add in trying to start a go fund me page for "bullying" when years ago she had some other go fund me page to raise money for a show for her or some idea, this reads of Vivian thinking her fans are still lurking out there and will contribute to poor Vivian.  Shame on her!  Go get a job like the rest of the world.

As to those who say if she was truly forgiving she would not have posted that long post, so true.  Vivian wants to shame them because her campaign for Vivian the star that blew up on her got brought up again.  I own all seasons except for 1 and 2 and CMT and Pluto recycle them.  So Sorry Vivian what you did to yourself is out there...........She chose that poem.  She thought that would get her lots of sympathy then.  She has tried to remain in this world and even was on the team to cheer for veterans or whatever that don't cheer.  It's Vivian who needs to move on.  As I said I saw the clip as Judy laughing at Kelli more than anything,  Sometimes when people want to criticize you and there is some point (the poem was over the top) , one looks the best just joking what was I thinking.

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5 minutes ago, Lexusprincess said:

Vivian's post is over the top just like her 2nd season and her ridiculous poem.  Vivian's road to DCC became Vivian's road to fame.  From her discussing her thousands of fans, to her very pissed off face when she did not get the fan vote the 2nd time, to her lyrical solo which was way out of her wheelhouse, Vivian's second training camp was cringeworthy.  Vivian sold her self as this poor child brought up on hot dogs her first yea but had years of dancing classes.  Vivian tried to create a brand for herself the first year but we still all rooted for her.  The second year, I just could not.  Vivian saw herself as a star of a reality show and it blew up in her face.  

I remember a clip that was not shown on this of Judy and Kelli asking Vivian where was her spunk? why did she do lyrical? where was the hip hop dynamo? and when Vivian discussed a breakup, Kelli in a very mom and concerned voice told her not to let the guy win.  Bring back Vivian's spunk.  They (Judy, Kelli,and Kitty) were clearly rooting for her but Vivian spent most of training camp primping in a mirror.  The first season Kitty helped pay for her second costume and change her solo so she would not be laughed out of auditions.  the quote "mean" girls did a lot to help her.  All of Vivian's  focus should have been spent on her dancing.

The self awareness to not even admit the poem was ridiculous, unprofessional, and plain bad shows Vivian never learned anything.  The clip shown this year really focused on Judy laughing at Kelli's face.  Who could have kept a straight face in that train wreck?

Add in trying to start a go fund me page for "bullying" when years ago she had some other go fund me page to raise money for a show for her or some idea, this reads of Vivian thinking her fans are still lurking out there and will contribute to poor Vivian.  Shame on her!  Go get a job like the rest of the world.

As to those who say if she was truly forgiving she would not have posted that long post, so true.  Vivian wants to shame them because her campaign for Vivian the star that blew up on her got brought up again.  I own all seasons except for 1 and 2 and CMT and Pluto recycle them.  So Sorry Vivian what you did to yourself is out there...........She chose that poem.  She thought that would get her lots of sympathy then.  She has tried to remain in this world and even was on the team to cheer for veterans or whatever that don't cheer.  It's Vivian who needs to move on.  As I said I saw the clip as Judy laughing at Kelli more than anything,  Sometimes when people want to criticize you and there is some point (the poem was over the top) , one looks the best just joking what was I thinking.

Yas!!!!  My reaction, too!  A facepalm and a groan and a laughing at herself pic would have gone a lot farther......

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Viv brought this on herself      If you don’t want the bad edit, don’t give them the material 

i really do do love seeing the squad announcements. Seeing Kelli laugh as it sinks in to the ladies’ heads   Still don’t think Morgan should have made it 

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14 hours ago, dariafan said:

Gina’s talking head at show group is why I didn’t like her 

The one where she talks about her extra training and her California spunk or whatever? I wasn’t a fan of that either. It was so weird; there have been girls from California before and there’s always a ton of trained dancers. 

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