The GCEh?C: Canadian Episodes (Spoilers for Non-Canadians)

[Artsda]

Christine was done her witnesses in like 4 minutes. It was hilarious how weak a case she had. Dylan who basically said he thought Adam was innocent and then Nick who went on a tirade against his father to defend Adam. Then Victor himself who said Adam didn't do it. LOL How does Christine still have this job?

Loved Jack being there for Adam.

Of course Summer went to support Victor and ran out when she couldn't handle the truth about him.

Die Victor die, and WTH Jack why are you taking off your suit jacket to help stop the bleeding? Let him die! 

[Petunia13]

Ian shooting victor was really nice of him

[bannana]

Happy Canada Day, Canucks!

We got a very arty opening today with a totally different perspective, that being Pricktor Newman’s as he is laying on the carpet in the foyer outside the courtroom, bleeding out.  He is using this valuable time to relive what happened a minute ago, that is, he walked out of the courtroom, escorted by the guard, looked at Cricket, Paul and Dylan, and Meredith.  Then he saw Ian with a gun on Drinki.  And we know the rest but today we got to see it from his perspective. 

So the ambulance eventually comes, he gets taken to hospital, and it turns out Prick is fine, as the cold as ice Meredith tells him and his children.  Well not Adam, cause he’s not there, and neither is Abby, not sure what happened to her—did she leave town with Stitch and Damien?  Of course Meredith is some pissed off that Prick made a fool of her by planting that false story she told Paulie and Cricket.  And telling everyone she has the hots for a petrified twig.

But back to the kerfuffle after the shooting.  Paul demands that Ian not be allowed to escape the building with Drinki, but of course he does.  And it never occurs to anyone that the perennial GC crime scene, aka the Abbott cabin, should be their first stop.

Dylan, who could have just run after Ian when he was leaving with Drinki yesterday, is trying to figure out where he could have gone, so he stops at the penthouse, where Adam and Chelz stupidly tell him that they conned Ian into thinking he was going to escape.  Whoops. Later Mikey tells them they are in deep doo-doo for doing this and oh by the way, they probably would have gotten a mistrial due to shots fired and all that.

But while all this was going on Philly were saying I love you and other crap, and Billy was trying to convince Phyllis to leave Jack.  Not surprising of course, but what is surprising and revolting is later Billy sees Jack at the GCAC, and Jack tells him about the whole Ian Ward thing and Prick being shot.  Billy then asks, where’s Phyllis?  Jack tells Billy that she stayed at the cabin, cause she is stressed out, man.  Jack decides he needs to check in on Phyllis, but of course he has no phone, so he asks Billy if he could borrow his.  Billy says, oops, no, my battery is dead.  No, that would be logical.  He actually says, sure, because I guess he is hoping that Phyllis outs them by thinking it is Billy on the phone.  But Billy’s little plan is foiled because just as Phyllis goes to answer the call in the cabin, Ian shows up with Drinki and a gun.  Phyllis drops her phone, instead, and doesn't answer it.

Billy asks Jack if HE AND PHYLLIS ARE HAVING MARITAL PROBLEMS?!  Are you fucking kidding me, Billy?  Jack says they are having some issues but nothing serious and they talk about how the whole Marco thing is still affecting her.  That’s right, Billy; that is why it is even more disgusting that you are taking advantage of her vulnerable state.  Billy says her messed up psyche must be why she got trashed last night, and Jack says:  how did you know she had too much to drink?  Billy says Phyllis texted him for a hangover recipe, making Jack ruefully comment that I guess my fruit smoothie didn’t do the trick.  Poor Jack.  He tells his brother that he and Phyllis have been through a lot and nothing will ever come between them again.

Ian is thrilled to find his favourite stargazer, Phyllis, at the cabin.  He has her tie up Drinki and then he ties her up.  Phyllis pretends to be on Ian’s side and says he should give her the gun and she will shoot Drinki.  Meanwhile when Ian was out of the room, Drinki is trying to get the cell phone with her foot, but no such luck. 

Back at the hospital Prick is trying to explain to Meredith that he does care about her but everything he does he does for his family, to protect them.  He didn't want Adam to go to prison. Paulie wonders whether Prick was trying to escape with Ian since he stopped the guard from shooting him.  And Prick says he was trying to save Drinki from being shot.  When Dick and Vic try to talk to Prick, he lashes out again, because they testified against him.  And then he “breaks down” crying, because everything he has done was for his family.  I am not an EB fan but this faux crying scene was really quite pathetic.  Meredith is listening at the door.

In other shenanigans, batty Sharon has beaned Mariah and Kevin is trying to figure out what Sharon is talking about.  Mariah is okay.  Sharon rushes to get ice for Mariah but not before taking the time to place the bust bookend back in its place!  Kevin wants to get Sharon to the hospital, and so they trick her into going and she is hospitalized for being off her meds.  A new doc gives her medication and a lecture.  Sharon sulks.  Dylan passes by and want to know what is up and he sees Sharon in the hospital room and asks her if she is okay.  Mariah tells Dylan that Sharon had a panic attack when she heard about the shooting at the courthouse.  Then Kevin tells Mariah that they need to tell Dylan that she is off her meds, but Mariah says it will be fine, and she tells Kev that Sharon sees zombieSage.

Previews:  Dylan to Paulie:  we are chasing down worthless leads while my mother's life is at stake; Jack to Billy: I am surprised I haven't heard from Phyllis; I think I am going to go up to the cabin:  Drinki, still captive, to Prick, still hospitalized:  Prick, it's me; I am with Ian.  You  need to do exactly as I say.

[HeatLifer]

Billy's scenes today with Phyllis and then his behavior with Jack truly showed what a sociopathic piece of shit he really is. I cannot believe the writers are OK with portraying him this way. It's unreal.

[NinjaPenguins]

Yeah, I thought Billy Abbott was a charming fuck-up, not a sadistic shitwagon who plays games with his family. We already have a Victor. 

The Abbott cabin must be razed to the ground and the land it sits on salted. Not only is it a crime magnet, it has been defiled by the moist, halibut-colored, naked flesh of Buttbiscuit slapping against Phyllis's delicates in a manner not unlike a walrus attempting to dislodge the cucumber it accidentally sat on. To be safe, the government should purify the immediate area with weaponized penicillin and seal it off lest the Midwestern zombie apocalypse begin with a mutated strain of the clap. 

Seasoned schemers Adam and Chelz confess their idiotic Ian plan to a police officer. GASP!!!

[HeatLifer]

Yeah, I thought Billy Abbott was a charming fuck-up, not a sadistic shitwagon who plays games with his family. We already have a Victor.

Right!? Asking Jack where Phyllis was and if they're having problems.....right after SCREWING JACK'S WIFE. These are the lines usually written for  "bad/evil/shady" characters. What in the world.

[Artsda]

Dylan needs to shut up, he's the one who arrested Adam for a crime he didn't commit. If the cops and Victor weren't after Adam then Ian never would have been called to testify. So it's not Adam's fault Ian escaped, it's GCPD's and it's Victor's. It's everyone who put Adam on trial for a murder they all know including Dylan he didn't commit.

[Desperately Random]

46 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Dylan needs to shut up, he's the one who arrested Adam for a crime he didn't commit. If the cops and Victor weren't after Adam then Ian never would have been called to testify. So it's not Adam's fault Ian escaped, it's GCPD's and it's Victor's. It's everyone who put Adam on trial for a murder they all know including Dylan he didn't commit.

Who is Dylan blaming for this clusterfuck? Because there is a lot of blame to be parceled out over this one. First in line is Victor, who gets the lion's share. It was his framing Adam (for what reason I still don't understand) that led to Ian being in the courthouse. Victor set this entire thing in motion with his need to manipulate and get back at his family. All because they dared to tell the truth about the wrinkly, old pus-bucket.

Cockroach also gets a nice big serving of blame for bringing a case that had no evidence or facts to sustain it. She saw her chance to put  Adam in prison after he got off last time and she took it. Who cares about justice or the rules of evidence when you get some payback, right cockroach?

Dylan and Paulie get some blame too for being the worst detective and police chief ever. Those two break rules of police procedure on a daily basis and even fail to use plain old common sense when conducting their "investigations". Incompetence must be a most highly regarded skill at the GCPD since its police force seems rife with it.

Then there is Adam and Chelsea for trying to trick Ian but I really don't blame them as much as the others. Adam was being set up and he and Chelsea were desperate. They were stupid but to some small extent their actions were understandable.

[Bill C.]

Oh, great.  Just when I thought they couldn't make Billy even more sociopathic, Pratt apparently goes "Challenge accepted, bitch."

[boes]

3 hours ago, Bill C. said:

Oh, great.  Just when I thought they couldn't make Billy even more sociopathic, Pratt apparently goes "Challenge accepted, bitch."

ButtBiscuit is treating Jack with the same sort of callous disregard, same sort of dislike with which he would treat Victor.  It does not compute with any previous incarnation of Billy.

[bannana]

7 hours ago, boes said:

ButtBiscuit is treating Jack with the same sort of callous disregard, same sort of dislike with which he would treat Victor.  It does not compute with any previous incarnation of Billy.

Agree with this wholeheartedly.  Billy would never have had that conversation with Jack.  I can accept Billy screwing around behind Jack's back with his wife/girlfriend, but Billy would have been torn apart about it, and drinking and gambling to shut out his guilt.  This Billy is cold and calculating.  And unappealing.

[DivaT]

Billy is to Jack as Adam is to Victor. That's the dynamic the show is trying to create between Billy and Jack. Let's be honest here, Y&R is creatively bankrupt.  TPTB wants JT to work so badly that they are mining what has worked in the past couple of years to ensure that he does. They've thrown every succesful dynamic the show saw during JFPs tenure at his Billy. The Adam and Victor family dynamic works for them so they created it with Billy and Jack. Devon and Hilary's affair was the only popular story and the couple was the only popular one created under JFPs 3.5 year tenure. Love, hate, or indifferent to Hevon pairing, it is what it is  I also think the response was unexpected BTS. So, they probably figure if those young, unimportant black characters can get this response from that story then anyone can.  This Phyllis/Billy affair is a carbon copy of the beats and dynamic of the Hilary/Devon affair just with more airtime and in depth writing. It's TPTB way of trying to ensure that Billy has a popular pairing with a rabid following too.

 

None of it makes any sense for the Billy character though. But that's irrelevant to the agenda of ensuring fans rabidly love JTs Billy the way they did MMs Adam. 

Edited July 3, 2016 by DivaT

[Anna Yolei]

Producers don't seem to get that shoving a character down our throats doesn't make us automatically care or like the character. Adam was developed over time, even before MM was brought on. The actor's popularity worked to the character's disadvantage IMO because Adam Newman really needed a break from the show after the switch but his popularity wasn't a part of any agenda or media blitz. Dylan was 100 percent improved when he became a supporting character and we didn't get the whole town commenting on what a good guy he is (and to JFP's marginal credit, Dylan isn't a hypocrite or a caveman and he's the first love interest since Brad that I can remember doing right by Sharon).

.....wait, Hevon is popular?! That's genuine news to me. I mean, Devon has been dead weight to the show for years and absolutely nothing about any part of that story worked. Are people just that glad to see the Winters clan get any story at all?

[bannana]

Happy Independence Day, American Preverts!

I hope you are celebrating and not wasting your time on this dreck that is Y & R.   Today was particularly annoying and boring, all at the same time.

Billy continues to advise Jack on his marriage.  Jack is portrayed today as stupid and saintly.  Poor Jack.

Prick continues to confound.  I have no idea what his agenda was/is, and I am too disinterested to pay close enough attention or give it any thought.  I just want it to be over.

And Sharon continues on the train to crazy town with Mariah as her Engineer.

Vic and Dick have it out with Prick.  He goes on about how their testimony is what put him in prison.  And how he would do everything for his family and he cries some crocodile tears, while Meredith listens at the door.  He suddenly rails at Vic when she suggests he has been wreaking havoc with their lives from prison; he shouts:  What if I did?  What if I did?  He loses it with both of them and his machines starts beeping and Meredith throws them out.  I guess this was his plan.  She tells him that she believes that his children are his whole world to him.

At the Abbott cabin, Ian decides not to give Phyllis the gun.  Drinki tries to get the cell phone but Ian catches her and laughs.  Later he steps into the kitchen to make a cup of coffee and when he returns he catches Phyllis walking with her chair tied to her butt, and he laughs quite hysterically.  That was entertaining, at least.  He tells his hostages that he is going to seek a ransom from Prick. He has Drinki call Prick on the phone to tell him.  Ian wants $5 million deposited into his account.  Prick tells Meredith who thinks they should call the police and he convinces her that he can handle it, and she aids and abets his escape from the hospital so he can go rescue Drinki.

Billy tells Jack how hard it is to make a marriage survive and how it pretty much isn’t worth it.  Jack says their marriage is not like Billy’s and they have weathered the storms.  And Tanks God for that, because Jack says:  I don’t know what I would do without her.  Vic and Dick show up.  Vic tells them what a prick Prick is, and Jack defends him, saying he’s been shot and is worried about Drinki.  Sigh.  Billy hugs Vic and then orders her a water and gives her a cocktail napkin to dry her tears.  How gallant.  They talk about the argument they had last night and how much they still care about each other and have each other’s back.  So touching.  Meanwhile Jack reassures Dick, and commends him for his support of his father when Dick was shot.  Jack advises Dick that Prick loves him and Dick should not give up on him.  Blech.  Jack tells Billy that he is going to go to the cabin because he hasn’t heard from Phyllis.  Billy tells him that is not a good Idea, and Jack wonders why.  Billy says that Phyllis needs her alone time, and Jack should not bother her.  Jack observes that Billy and Phyllis have developed quite a bond.  Billy gets a news alert that Prick has escaped the hospital. 

Dick and Vic go back to the hospital and realize that Prick has escaped, and Meredith looks pretty complicit.

Sharon tells Dylan she was frantic and had a panic attack blah blah.  Mariah tells Kevin they need to keep Sharon’s secret about her zombieSage hallucinations.  Sharon eventually promises Kevin she will go back on her meds and stay on them.  Even though Kevin is worried she might hurt her own family.

Dylan frets with Paul about how useless he is in the search for Drinki.  No shit, Sherlock.  How can neither of them even think of the Abbott Hole-in-the-Wall as the go to place for all criminals?  The GCPD should install surveillance cameras there with a direct feed to Paulie’s BlackBerry.

Prick shows up full of swagger and tells Ian he will die this time; and Ian points a gun at Drinki again.

Previews:  Dylan to Vic: Ian is holding Drinki at the Abbott Hole-in-the-Wall and we are on our way there now; and Dummer says: what? No!  That’s where my mom is.  Phyllis and Drinki are allowed to leave the cabin, but Drinki stops before leaving and says: No, wait, and looks at Prick.

Edited July 5, 2016 by bannana
correcting a typo that unintentionally changed Prick's gender

[NinjaPenguins]

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while Meredith listens at the door.  He suddenly rails at Vic when she suggests he has been wreaking havoc with their lives from prison; he shouts:  What if I did?  What if I did?

So prison doc hears him confess to fucking with his children and goes on to coo at him about much he wuuuvvvs his kids. Moron.

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 he convinces her that he can handle it, and she aids and abets his escape from the hospital so he can go rescue Drinki.

Look out, Genoa City! Bargain basement Liam Neeson is on the loose!

Victor: I don't remember who you are, 'kay? I don't care what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I have money. But what you will get instead are a very sweaty set of balls, balls I have acquired over a very long career. Balls that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my wife go now, that won't be the end of it. I will still look for you, I will still pursue you. And if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will teabag you. Youhaveanicedaynow.

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Billy gets a news alert that Prick has escaped the hospital. 

Well, the quote function has given up the ghost, so let me just move right to congratulating smug Buttbiscuit for cockblocking his own brother, smarmily kissing his ex-wife's ass, and having the golden opportunity to play hero fall in his concave lap. He hit the Trifuckta right there. Advice to Ian Ward: aim for Buttbiscuit's swizzle stick; all womankind will thank you.

[Petunia13]

1 hour ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Look out, Genoa City! Bargain basement Liam Neeson is on the loose!

Victor: I don't remember who you are, 'kay? I don't care what you want. If you are looking for ransom, I can tell you I have money. But what you will get instead are a very sweaty set of balls, balls I have acquired over a very long career. Balls that make me a nightmare for people like you. If you let my wife go now, that won't be the end of it. I will still look for you, I will still pursue you. And if you don't, I will look for you, I will find you, and I will teabag you. Youhaveanicedaynow.

????? 

[HeatLifer]

Y'all. I can't with Billy. I truly have no words. I need a break.

[MollyB]

I think this is a record for the amount of times I have said "oh, for fuck's sake" in a five minute interval:

Billy continues to advise Jack on his marriage.

[Pricktor] goes on about how their testimony is what put him in prison

She tells him that she believes that his children are his whole world to him.

At the Abbott cabin, Ian decides not to give Phyllis the gun. 

Prick tells Meredith who thinks they should call the police and he convinces her that he can handle it, and she aids and abets his escape from the hospital so he can go rescue Drinki.

Billy tells Jack how hard it is to make a marriage survive

"I [Jack] don’t know what I would do without her [the rotten cheater]."

Vic tells them what a prick Prick is, and Jack defends him, saying he’s been shot and is worried about Drinki.

"...how much they [both of the rotten cheaters] still care about each other and have each other’s back."

Jack advises Dick that Prick loves him and Dick should not give up on him.  (Does Jack have a fucking tumor?) 

Jack tells Billy that he is going to go to the cabin because he hasn’t heard from Phyllis.  Billy tells him that is not a good Idea, and Jack wonders why. (seems like a tumor)

Billy says that Phyllis needs her alone time, and Jack should not bother her.  (if Jack didn't shove a bar towel up NeverinamillionyearsBilly's  nostrils, then, yup, it's a tumor)

Dylan frets with Paul about how useless he is in the search for Drinki.  (Actually, I also laughed at this)

Prick shows up full of swagger and tells Ian he will die this time

So prison doc hears him confess to fucking with his children and goes on to coo at him about much he wuuuvvvs his kids.

Thank you Banana and Ninja for getting me closer to my dream of being in the Guinness Book of World Records

[boes]

On 6/25/2016 at 9:56 PM, miamama said:

 

I can't seem to try and post ANYTHING without some random post (not about your posts Miamamma) showing up.   What's that about??

Jack, STFU - first time I've ever said that.  But PLEASE, Jack, zip it.

[bannana]

The show opens on a couple in bed and I honestly had no idea who it was until they zoomed in—it was Dummer and Puka.  He’s preventing her from checking her messages so she has no idea of the danger her Gwampa is in.  BTW, Dummer's boobs could barely be contained in her sexy bra.  She checks her phone and finds out that Gramma’s been kidnapped, Gwampa’s been shot and they are both missing.

Dick and Vic are at the hospital trying to get Meredith to talk, including threatening the cop guarding her room.   Finally Chief Paulie interrogates and threatens her.  She says nothing until Vic speaks and then Dylan speaks and a mere second after refusing to talk she spills all.  She tells them about the call, the ransom request.  Paul says:  We know how to prevent innocent people from getting shot and killed, we need your help here.  Hahaha!!!  Dylan appeals to her as Drinki’s son.  She caves, but it is clear she is in love with Prick.

Prick arrives at the Abbott Hole in the Wall.  Phyllis is unimpressed that he didn’t bring the cavalry.  Prick and Ian spar verbally. Prick says: Do you ever stop babbling?  Ian replies:  No, I don’t.  Hah!  Prick tells Ian he has to release a hostage.    He agrees to release Phyllis, and both Ian and Prick tell her to go.  But she says she won’t go without Drinki.  Eventually Ian agrees, and says to Drinki:  You used to be a lot more fun. Drinki says she can’t leave Prick, but Phyllis and Prick tell her to go with Phyllis.

Jack and Billy are at the GCAC putting together what Prick must be up to.  Jack says he understands Prick's actions, and Billy, frustrated, says: we are just starting to get along and you are defending Prick.   Jack says, you can’t understand Prick trying to save Drinki?  Billy says, they are getting divorced, so….And Jack says love doesn’t go away, Prick would die for Drinki, and he would do the same for Phyllis, and Billy says, And I would stop you. WTF?  Jack thinks Billy is trying to protect him from making another mistake(???).  Jack persists, and says that he and Billy are brothers and will always be there for each other.  He says he knows what is going on, and why Billy has been avoiding him.  Billy is super uncomfortable.  Jack says he knows about Billy trying to expand Brash and Sassy.    Billy gets testy, but Jack realizes Billy is actually relieved by what he said.  Jack tells Billy he wants him to succeed.  Billy says, good man, but doesn't actually mean it.  Jack says they are going to fight as brothers, because they want the same thing, but nothing can break that bond.  Oh boy.

Dummer shows up at the hospital upset that she was out of the loop.  She learns that they are at the Abbott Hole in the Wall, and she is concerned because that is where her mom is.  She tells the Keystone Cops and they are on it!  Dummer heads to the GCAC to tell Jack what is going on.

Prick has his laptop ready to transfer the money to Ian’s account and he eggs him on to hit enter, which then notifies the bank and the police as to their location.  Is this to tell us that Prick had a brilliant plan all along? 

En route to the Hole in the Wall, Paulie gently reprimands Dylan for all of his out of line behavior with the Newmans and with Meredith.  Awww!

Dummer and Puka arrive at the GCAC and Puka confronts Dummer about blaming him for her not knowing about the crisis.  She flashes back to the spy convo with Dick.  She blows him off.  She runs to tell Jack that Phyllis is in danger.  Billy leaps into action and says they need to go the cabin.  Puka is watching and seems to notice Billy’s intensity.  Dummer tells them they cannot go.

Prick and Ian spar some more and Ian realizes that he is screwed.  He puts the gun in Prick’s hand.  More sparring, blah blah Paragon virus, damage to my family, blah blah.  Ian says they need each other, and starts to taunt Prick re Drinki and her past.  Prick sees Drinki peering in the window—she never left. Her face in the window is laugh out loud funny.  Prick says Ian is his ticket out of prison, and Paulie and Dylan rush in telling Prick to drop the gun.  He does.  Ian tells Dylan he never hurt Drinki and they take him out.  Drinki thanks Prick for his sacrifice.  Blech.   Paul decides Prick doesn’t need to be handcuffed—no doubt because he is a hero.  Everyone leaves, and they leave Drinki there.  Shouldn’t the cops be helping her since she is a victim of kidnapping?

Before Meredith is escorted to jail, Vic and Dick interrogate Meredith and she tells them that everything Prick did was for Drinki.  She explains that she saw how much he loves Drinki, and she needed to help him help Drinki.  Oy.  She goes on to explain that she loves him so much that she helped him get his true love back.  She says she is pathetic. Yup.

Phyllis runs into the GCAC and runs into Jack’s arms, and Billy looks on—annoyed? relieved? constipated? jealous?  I couldn’t tell.  Dummer is relieved to see Phyllis is fine too.  Billy rushes to the bar to get Phyllis a glass of water.  Phyllis tells them all what happened.  Now Dummer goes to get Phyllis more water and Puka is all over her, but she is stand-offish.  What is with the water on this show?  How about a scotch?  It doesn’t matter, because Phyllis leaves with the cops to give her statement.  Billy looks on…again, not sure what that look is supposed to say.

Previews:  Ashley to Abby:  Is Max on his way home, and Abby says, that’s not going to happen.  Prick to Dummer:  Do you think something is not right with Puka?  Jack to Hillary: What’s going on, what are you feeling?  And she says, this, and kisses him.

[crosby777]

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Again, I don't see the enjoyment of this unless you're a Philly fan.

This Philly fan loves them.. and the more it makes that old idiot Jack look bad the better.. Jack is a goof and he deserves to always lose.. let him go chase after the real love of his life. VICTOR

[NinjaPenguins]

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 Billy leaps into action and says they need to go the cabin.  Puka is watching and seems to notice Billy’s intensity. 

Of course Luca notices Billy's intensity. Game recognizes game, slime recognizes slime. 

There is so much bullshit to unpack in this episode, and I unfortunately don't have an excavator on hand to do it. Pratt's BIG. DRAMATIC. KIDNAPPING! tapers off like Victor's urine stream, the prison doc pokes around under a layer of whale excrement to find new depths to sink to, and Buttbiscuit looks like he needs to pluck the hair across his ass no matter what emotion is called for.

Pratt. Hey, Pratt. Yeah, you over there filling out the online application to the Unauthorized Victor Newman Fan and Laxative of the Month Club. We get it. Jack doesn't need to spend every episode coddling his worthless brother and unfaithful wife. We know he's devoted to them; we've seen their relationships develop over the years. New viewers do not need day after day of dialogue softening Jack up for the kill, unless you're a sadist who simply gains pleasure from writing a daily dose of Billy smugly advising his brother on life while he rails Phyllis behind his back. 

Ps Prattweed: Did you realize that for the past couple days, Jack has been three times the father to Victor's children that Mr. "All for my fambly!" will ever be? 

[Petunia13]

How much longer is this idiot going to drag it out? 

[Anna Yolei]

On Monday, July 04, 2016 at 11:36 PM, boes said:

I can't seem to try and post ANYTHING without some random post (not about your posts Miamamma) showing up.   What's that about??

Jack, STFU - first time I've ever said that.  But PLEASE, Jack, zip it.

Regarding that quote box, for some reason the posts don't clear out even after responding. All you have to do is tap at the top of it and hit the back button on your phone till it clears. It's a bit tricky to figure out, and I agree that I'd be happy if the site had a regular ol' fashioned rich text editor option along with this one.

[Petunia13]

I've been having a problem editing posts and the whole picture thing. pictures don't work anymore when after the upgrade and strictly used iPhone the site was quite intuitive with pics and automatically reduced and inserted them. Then that ended. I had a couple cute pics for the small talk thread ?

[bannana]

It’s a new day in Genoa City.  Dick, Dummer and Puka are at Newman discussing the recent events related to Prick.  Dick is marveling at how Prick went from escaped convict to hero in a few hours.  Dummer says he is a hero, not a dangerous criminal.  Puka says Ian Ward is locked up and where he belongs.  Dick says that Vic is with Drinki who is still shaken by her ordeal.  Puka snarks: no fun time with Travis, that’s a switch? 

Dick tells them he is going to the refinery to find out who did the sabotage.  He wants Puka and Dummer to support Vic in his absence.  Puka tries to talk Dick out of going.  Then he tries to convince Dick to send Puka in his place.  Dick points out that Prick may get out of prison thanks to his heroics, just like Adam did that one time (which I actually don’t remember).  Dick even says, it couldn’t have gone better for Prick if he planned it himself.  Hmmmm….  Dick also points out that Prick will likely fire them all when he returns.  Dummer is shocked!

Esther and Billy are the lone inhabitants at Crimson Lights, also discussing the big rescue.  Esther blah blahs about the hostage taking, and poor Jack being worried about Phyllis, her fate trapped in someone else’s hands.  Billy looks constipated.  She blah blahs and says she hopes Prick didn’t save Phyllis’ life for her to be miserable.  And Billy takes this as a sign to go track down Phyllis.  BTW, does anyone really believe that Phyllis or Drinki were in danger?

Phyllis wakes up in her own bed at the Abbott mansion(!), with Jack lovingly watching her seated in a chair.  She says she didn’t get much sleep and he assumes it was the hostage situation but she flashes back to sofa sex with Billy.  Jack tells her she is unbreakable just like their marriage, and reveals that he told this to Billy who thinks all marriages lead to divorce, even Phack.  Phyllis seems disturbed that Billy had this convo with Jack, and then changes the subject.  She decides to go to work.  Jack says, she can go to work as long as she stops thinking about the cabin, and he hugs her.  At this point I think PB is playing Jack as the naïve fool, and getting a bit of enjoyment out of that.  I hope.

Hillary is a bitch on wheels again.  She is in her hotel room painting her toenails and she leaves a voicemail for Jack updating him on her health, and that she has business to discuss.  Then Devon shows up with flowers telling her he likes her just like the bitch she is; but she is not buying it, she figures out he is trying to protect his billions.  She tells him to get lost.  Lilly sees Devon in the lobby and tries to give him a pep talk to save his marriage, because she doesn’t want to lose her precious job.  Jack arrives and he has an appointment with Hillary, but Lily wonders why Neil isn’t included.  She is about to say something to Jack about Hillary and backs off.  Jack sees Hillary and tells her she looks fantastic.  She wants to meet upstairs away from Lily’s dagger looks, and Jack takes her to the pool lounge, instead of her room, to her obvious disappointment.  No problem, she promptly kisses him right there.  He backs away, alarmed, and she blames her new medication and apologizes all over herself.  She mentions Jack and Phyllis’ “sacred“ marriage and says it won’t happen again and he extricates himself, and she has that scheming femme fatale look when he walks away.

Abby is back and sees Ash at Jabot.  She tells Ash she looks fantastic, and they talk about Prick and the prowess he must still have since he got that female Prison Doc to engineer his escape.  Blech!  Abby tells Ash that Max had the surgery and is now suffering from seizures and memory loss.  They head out to chat more and leave Phyllis at Jabot to hold down the fort.  Of course  Billy shows up.  He wants to know if she has reconsidered leaving Jack for him.  She wants to know why he was talking to Jack about her marriage and about divorce.  She explains that when she was at the cabin after he left that she was prepared to leave Jack.  But then the hostage taking and rescue happened.  She says her marriage is real and special.  Billy wants to know why she ran back into Jack’s arms and not his; he wants to know how special and real her marriage is if she is fucking around with him.  She says she loves them both, that she is conflicted.  She needs time, and he angrily says he will give it to her.  Jack walks in and wants to know why the raised voices and why Billy is so worked up.  BTW, if this is what having an affair is all about, I am not sure why anyone would have one, cause this doesn’t seem fun at all.  Billy covers and says he is not worked up, his voice carries(!), and he is there to see Ash.  Jack dismisses him and Billy says to Phyllis:  I meant it, take your time, think about it, don’t rush into anything.  He leaves and Jack asks Phyllis what is going on between the two of them.  Sigh.

Abby and Ash show up at Crimson Lights and join the one other customer who is there. Esther lurks by.  They talk about Max, who is in a long-term care facility.  Abby thinks Ben blames her.  He has shut Abby out.  Ash thinks Ben is feeling guilty.  Ash gives her a pep talk.  Ben calls Abby and she tries to get him to talk but no go.  Abby leaves to go visit Prick in prison. 

Puka says he will stay and support Vic and Dummer.  He leaves to take a meeting.  Dummer and Dick then have a convo re Prick and the sabotage.  And about trusting Puka. She is questioning him.  Dick tells her she is not a snowflake, she is Supergirl.  Hahahaha!   Meanwhile Puka is poolside with a cocktail and calling someone to say:  We have a problem, Dick is on his way there.

Hillary and Lily spar at the GCAC bar.  Hillary tells Lily she will soon be out of a job. Later Billy shows up at the bar, and Hillary says he must be celebrating that Jack has his wife back, safe and sound.  Billy toasts to:  Happy Endings!  Hahahaha!

Devon heads over to the bustling Crimson Lights, and Esther gets to make a third appearance.  Devon tells Esther that he has done nothing of use with his money.  I agree with you, Devon.  But Esther disagrees, and gives him a pep talk and some advice and he gives her a flower.  Are they writing Esther off?  Everyone is giving her praise for her words of “wisdom”!  Devon decides to fight for Hillary. Yawn.

Phyllis tells Jack that Billy crossed the line by saying that their marriage is doomed, and she says that she told Billy her marriage is none of his business.  Jack hints that someone else wants what they have.  

Previews:  Chelz in a really ugly denim dress, on the phone to Kev:  Sorry to bother you but I am really freaking out here, and Kev says, let me guess, Pricktor?;  Adam to Dylan:  I am running out of time here and I need to prove this theory, and Dylan says, and you think confronting Prick is the only way to do that;  Drinki to Prick, who is in a hospital bed:  I don’t want to walk away from you.

Edited July 6, 2016 by bannana

[peacheslatour]

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Puka snarks: no fun time with Travis, that’s a switch? 

What the fuck is it to him?

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Billy looks constipated.

 

When doesn't he?

Thanks bannana, great job. I don't know how you do it, but I'm glad you do, I look forward to my bannanacaps!

[Anna Yolei]

 Devon heads over to the bustling Crimson Lights, and Esther gets to make a third appearance.  Devon tells Esther that he has done nothing of use with his money.  I agree with you, Devon.  

Charles Pratt has never written a truer statement in his entire time on this show.

[NinjaPenguins]

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Drinki to Prick, who is in a hospital bed:  I don’t want to walk away from you.

I swear her next line better be: I prefer to run as fast as my heels will let me. 

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Dick tells her she is not a snowflake, she is Supergirl. 

Sometimes I forget how much Nick's and Summer's relationship makes me want to retch. Sure, there are moments of entertainment where I untangle the logic puzzle of which one has the brain cell today, but those flashes of fun don't compensate for the sticky-sweet infantile grunts emerging from Daddy DingDong's blowhole. 

Speaking of blowholes, just who in the fuck does Moby Prick think he is, getting all pissy because Phyllis won't leave his brother for him. That's just not how affairs work. Also, dude needs to button his shirts all the way up to the neck. While the peak at his goodies might be tantalizing for a pelican looking for a white, clammy meal, I've seen better chests during a morgue tour. 

[PatsyandEddie]

Just like we all predicted, Nikki has lost her mind. She and NosferaTurd are stopping the divorce proceedings but get this! She wants to appear before a judge with all the kids hoping that the usual tonguebathing will be enough to overturn his sentence. ARE YOU  FUCKING KIDDING ME?

Edited July 8, 2016 by PatsyandEddie
Stupid typos

[peacheslatour]

^^^^^You know, I'm not a law talking guy, but I don't think criminals routinely get their sentences overturned because they broke out of custody and got in the way of a police action. But, I don't have my GED in law, so what do I know? SMH.

[NinjaPenguins]

Hey! If it's good enough for Sonny Corinthos in Port Charles, it's good enough for our own misogynist monster.

Let us proceed to the ritual tongue bathing. Mr. Pratt, please have your Jergen's and favorite hand towel with you; observers will not be allowed to disrupt the hearing by leaving the courtroom. The first witness may come forward and begin the slurping of Mr. Newman in earnest.

Nick Newman: Uh, so...my dad. He made me, I guess. Can I go now, Mom? Jack's taking me and Summer out for banana splits and mini golf.

Adam: Say something nice about Victor Newman? Well, he's a carbon based lifeform, so there's that. Unless the rumor that he's actually a wad of ectoplasm sustained by a cult of necromancers performing blood sacrifices in Hell is true, of course. I'm sure it's not true. I mean, as far as I know. 

Victoria: I don't know if I should do this. We'll just be back in front of a judge six months from now after Dad has beaten Jack with a tire iron or pulled Gabe Bingham out of his secret man-freezer to replace Adam and wreak havoc on Genoa City. We'll cry and rend our garments and be done with him until he steps on a rusty nail. Then Mom will blubber all over him and hold his dick while Dr. Whoever gives him a tetanus shot. Rinse, retch, repeat.

Nikki: Victoria!

Victoria: I may have let Travis serve me a few drinks to calm my nerves before I came to court. 

Summer: In Vino Veritas. Luca has that tattooed on his balls. It's Roman for "Mouth Goes Here." Since I'm already talking, let me just add that Grampa has been a major influence on my life. In fact, I choose my boyfriends based on how much they're like Gramps.

Austin's Ghost: I hate you so much.

Abby: Dad, do you think you could find an untested miracle cure for Max? You know, like when you paid that doctor a ton of money to shoot Phyllis up with coma juice. Come on! You remember. You wouldn't stop talking about how it made your penis bigger than Jack's. 

Summer: How does that work? I'm asking for a friend. A friend that lives with me.

Nikki: This was not a good idea...

[bannana]

Yesterday’s episode was infuriating and today’s was both infuriating and boring.  How is that possible?

Dylan is at Crimson Lights where Esther has become the main attraction.  Stitch shows up and tells Dylan that if he could go back and change things he would but does that mean he wanted Max to remain a psycho killer?  He is upset at the life Max now has to live and he also figures Abby doesn’t understand and there is no point in talking to her. 

Abby is at the hospital where Prick is cuffed to a bed.  She blubbers all over him.  Drinki shows up at the hospital and tells Paulie that she wants the world to know how Prick risked his life to save hers.  Paul tries to splain to her that her testimony helped send him to prison but she thinks he has been punished enough.  She says he is heroic not vengeful.  She drank the koolaid and is completely bamboozled.  She says:  My husband who I believe loathed me, risked his own life for me.  WTF?  Paul tries to tell her what a prick he still is, and reminds her of why she filed for divorce and tells her to stay free of Prick.  Abby tells Drinki that Prick wants to see her and she reacts like a little kid going to see Santa.  

Drinki tells Prick she doesn’t want a divorce.  She waxes on poetically about how Prick showed up unarmed and bested Ian, how he could have shot Ian but he didn’t, for the sake of his family, how the man she fell in love with is back.  Prick looks on thinking, holy shit I hope she doesn’t find out she was kidnapped and held hostage because of my nefarious plan to get released from prison!  He tells her he doesn’t want a divorce.  She has always been the one for him.  If you think about it, Drinki is kind of lucky; she was just kidnapped and held hostage.  Meredith was really used and abused and she is also going to jail and going to lose her professional job. 

Abby sees Ben at the hospital.  He is standoffish and rude to her when she asks about Max and how he is doing.  She should just walk away from this asshole.  More blah blah and he blows her off and she looks sad. 

Chelz, dressed in an ugly denim dress, and Adam are at the penthouse trying to figure out what the heck Prick is up to after all.  Adam decides he needs to go see Prick to find out what his nefarious plan really is.  He seeks Dylan’s assistance since he is under house arrest.

Is Sharon on or off her meds, that is the question.  She is wearing hot pants and a beautiful white blouse and manically cleaning her house.  I do not believe for one second that Sharon McAvoy cleans her own house.  Mariah is worried because she thinks Sharon is off her meds.  After apologizing to Mariah about beaning her she assures is her she is on her meds.  She’s just happy because everything is working out great for her now.  But then Kev shows up and he has the same reaction as Mariah.  Sharon also convinces him that she is on her meds.  Then Dylan comes home and he doesn’t think anything about anything.  Sharon has made them a special lunch.  But then Drinki shows up looking for his help.  She tells him the divorce is off and she wants to help Prick with his conviction.

Chelz calls Kev for help with the mystery woman.  They look at the footage again but cannot figure out who it is.

Adam visits Prick in the hospital.  Prick tells Adam that the real pages of the diary will show up and Adam will be exonerated.  In exchange, Adam will go work for Prick at Newman as his lackey.  Prick also tells Adam that his sentence will be overturned and he will be released from prison and will return to Newman with Adam at his side.  Prick gives him the choice of prison or working by his side.

My favourite thing today was this supposed legal maneuvre concocted by Dylan.  He tells Drinki that she and everyone in her family that testified against Pricktor must all recant their testimony in order for it to have any impact.  He says his crimes still stand, those happened; but their testimony about what a Prick he is can be changed if THEY ALL AGREE TO RECANT!  Hahahaha!  Where the hell did Dylan get this from?

Previews:  Stepford Drinki to Victoria:  His actions are an excellent case for an appeal and Vic says, as in getting his conviction overturned?  Adam to Chelz:  He wants me to return to Newman, to work for him.  Billy to Phyllis:  It’s time to make a choice, it is going to be Jack or me.

[NinjaPenguins]

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Billy to Phyllis:  It’s time to make a choice, it is going to be Jack or me.

So in Buttbiscuit world, "take all the time you need" means 48 hours. 

Billy, you're asking Phyllis to choose between filet mignon and a rectal exam with a Philips head screwdriver. Hint: You're not the edible option. 

[valleycliffe]

buttbiscuit, phyl doesn't take kindly to ultimatums..

at least she didn't..

[crowsworks]

Go back to work for him and shove him out the window.

[HeatLifer]

1 hour ago, NinjaPenguins said:

So in Buttbiscuit world, "take all the time you need" means 48 hours. 

Billy, you're asking Phyllis to choose between filet mignon and a rectal exam with a Philips head screwdriver. Hint: You're not the edible option. 

I wish she'd just choose Billy bc I want to laugh at how Billy is written when he tells Jack. 

[basiltherat]

Would Jack and Phyllis have to recant their testimonies too?  Jack as he is now may be stupid enough to do it, but not the Dragon Lady!

[bannana]

58 minutes ago, basiltherat said:

Would Jack and Phyllis have to recant their testimonies too?  Jack as he is now may be stupid enough to do it, but not the Dragon Lady!

That's a good question.  The way legal eagle Dylan explained it, the entire Newman clan would have to in solidarity change their testimony, for this to work.  He did acknowledge that Prick's actual crimes and testimony related to that would stand.  So I guess Phyllis and Jack are off the hook.

[miamama]

2 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

I wish she'd just choose Billy bc I want to laugh at how Billy is written when he tells Jack. 

The fact that they treat this like it's a triangle when it's a fucking tawdry affair is so insane. You don't get to choose Phyllis. You fucked the man's brother for months. You made your choice. When Jack finds out he will kick your lying cheating ass to the curb. So spare me with this I need to choose garbage.

[boes]

1 hour ago, bannana said:

That's a good question.  The way legal eagle Dylan explained it, the entire Newman clan would have to in solidarity change their testimony, for this to work.  He did acknowledge that Prick's actual crimes and testimony related to that would stand.  So I guess Phyllis and Jack are off the hook.

Maybe the Newmans can put it to music, sing a song of redemption sorta like the Von Trapp kids.  Call themselves the Trappazoids..

Nikki could begin with, 

Lets start at the very beginning
A very good place to start

When you rage you begin with A-B-C
When you plot you begin with DO-RE-MI

Then Vic can chime in, 

DO RE MI...The first three notes just happen to be: DO-RE-MI,

And Nikki can then lead the whole family in Victor's Get out of Jail song...

DO-RE-MI-FA-SOL-LA-TI...
Oh let me see if I can make it easier,

DOPE-- A SON, A NEWMAN SON,
RAID-- VICTOR'S CHOICE OF LUBE,
MEAT-- WHAT DA WIMMINS ARE,
FAR-- A LONG LONG WAY TO RUN
STOLE--SECRET OF MY SUCCESS
LA-- A NOTE TO FOLLOW STOLE
TEA-- BAGGING, DEAR DOCTOR DID
THAT WILL BRING US BACK TO DO... oh oh oh...

 

This is a show the whole family could watch.  The Manson family.

Edited July 8, 2016 by boes

[Anna Yolei]

What happened to Adam's balls?

Seriously. Love or hate the guy, but he didn't used to take Victor's blackmail lying down like this. And for that matter, neither did Phyllis and this rubbish of NeverBilly telling her to choose. OTOH, Phyllis wouldn't need to be forced into a decision.

ugh.

[NinjaPenguins]

Adam's balls are being tastefully cupped by a pair of Chelsea Lawson Originals silk boxer shorts in a barking sea lion print. The truth is, Chelsea's constant gasping is monopolizing the oxygen in their penthouse, which in turn starves the Eat Shit and Die, Victor Newman lobe of Adam's brain. Ever notice that Connor is always napping or looking washed out? The air is too damn thin up there.

[bannana]

Jill is back and she is dissing Grey Gardens!

As gross as this show is these days, there were some laugh out loud moments today. 

Prick and Adam continue their convo; Prick will get Adam exonerated if he agrees to work with Prick when he is set free.  Kev and Chez cannot figure out who Dorothy Gale is.

Drinki visits Victoria at Newman to announce that the divorce is not going forward.  Vic is happy for her.  Drinki wants Vic to help get Prick out of prison.  She explains Dylan’s plan to Vic, that everyone has to say they were just angry when they testified.  Vic seems warm to the idea, but Vic says their testimony won’t sway the judge.  Drinki wants Vic to approach Phyllis to get her join their movement.

Jack and Phyllis went for a carousel ride in the PARK!  We didn’t get to see it though.  After fun in the PARK they return to Jack’s office, where he wants to have sexy times.  He surmises that she feels guilty about his birthday.  She blames the cabin.  He unzips her dress.  She is uncomfortable.  But they move things along and Victoria WAKS IN ON THEM!  Hahahaha!  Vic says, oh sorry, I guess I should have called first (no shit!) and Phyllis is so relieved for sexy times to be over she says, come on in, no problem, while she tries to get dressed.  Vic wants Phyllis and Jack to support their bid to get Prick released, and Jack is empathetic toward Vic, but Phyllis is furious and refuses, and then she gets angry with Jack for siding with Prick.  Jack has apparently been replaced with an imposter because he thinks it is great that Prick’s family is rallying around him to get him out.  She reminds Jack of what Prick did to her and says she has not forgotten that he stuck a sick psychopath in her bed.  Jack cannot figure out why Phyllis is fighting with him.  She is frustrated and stomps out.

Jill shows up at Grey Gardens and lets Billy know that she can take back the mansion anytime she wants.  Apparently he signed a contract with her that he didn’t read.  She wants him to take her out to dinner; she says she is getting nauseated looking at this hideous paint colour.

Mike and Lauren are at the GCAC and he is fretting about Adam’s case.

Adam tells Prick he is underestimating Victoria, but Prick says he adores Vic, but she has that dead weight Billy Boy Abbott holding her back.  Prick tells Adam he has no emotional attachments, and he gets pissed off and leaves, and Prick says:  you’ll be back.

Drinki is upset to learn that the divorce papers may have been processed, but Mikey tells her he stopped them and wants to know she is sure and not just being impulsive.  But since he saved her life, she is totally okay with everything that Prick has done.  And Mike says he is okay with that too.  Drinki is a happy little girl.

Jill and Billy join Aunt Lauren at the GCAC. They lovingly gang up him regarding Brash and Sassy and also Victoria.  He leaves the table and joins Vic at the bar who tells him that she walked in on Phack sexy times.  Vic figures Phyllis should be grateful to Prick.  Billy gets agitated and stomps out.

Meredith shows up to visit Prick.  She has no issues with him using her, lying to her, humiliating her and once again using her, as she volunteers to speak to her father about getting him released.  And she is happy for Prick and Drinki!  She says she is going to go find a new job, and credits Prick for her re-examining her life.  She feels free!

Adam is back at the penthouse to tell Chez about Prick’s evil plot and how he turned him down, and Chelz says:  better at Newman than in some prison cell.

Kev joins the lustful Mike and Lauren at the GCAC and reveals he is trying to help Chez find the missing journal pages.

Phyllis shows up at Grey Gardens furious with Victoria and with Jack who she says wants her to back Prick’s appeal (not sure that was what Jack said but still, he was an idiot).  Billy seizes the opportunity and tells Phyllis it is time to choose between him and Jack.  She says she came for advice, not an ultimatum.   They get all hot over their mutual Prick hatred and start to kiss, but Phyllis sees Jill’s luggage and accuses Billy of wanting her to walk in on them and force her break-up with Jack.  She stomps out.

Jill chats up Vic at the GCAC and wants to see her get back with Billy.  She warns her that if Vic helps Prick, he will eventually betray his entire family.

Drinki and Prick talk about calling off the divorce.   Blah blah puke.

Jill returns to GG and says that Vic is his last hope for happiness, while Billy scowls in the darkness.

Phyllis returns to Jabot and Jack apologizes and says he is 100% behind her and they hug.

Previews:  Billy, sporting a buzz cut, to Cane: I am not really in the mood for this, and Cane says, You need to hear this; Dummer to Puka: You were talking to a reporter about potential problems at Newman; Jack to Hil:  These lab results say you are doing better; I don’t know what this whole sick routine is, but it is not going to fly.

[NinjaPenguins]

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 She explains Dylan’s plan to Vic, that everyone has to say they were just angry when they testified

So I'm not a lawyer or a paralegal or even just a courtroom groupie with a gavel fetish, but Dylan's plan sounds somewhat like having the witnesses against Victor admit to perjury. 

Congratulations to prison doc on her new life, a life completely free of dignity and unburdened by self-esteem. 

Phyllis can hop on a fishfleshed Buttbiscuit boner, but Jack repulses her. Yep, that makes sense. 

[miamama]

Phyllis and Jack endured all this Marco crap but she bonds with Billy over Victor hate. That is the core of the Philly affair. Jack, who has existed to destroy Victor is asking Phyllis to support Victor's release. Jack was tortured and drugged and raped for far longer than Victor was "incarcerated" but he is glad Victor has his family's support. The same Jack who forged a diary with Adam to send Victor to jail. The same Jack who encouraged Abby to launch the suit against Victor that saw his kids fleece him.

The levels of bullshit to sell this story are too deep to fathom. But the most fucking offensively stupid thing I've seen is that Phyllis is repulsed by Jack but can't resist Billy. Billy???????!!!!!!!! 

Why the fuck did I bother to check in with this crap again??????

I am cutting myself off cold turkey for awhile. This is seriously bad for my mental state.

[DivaT]

3 minutes ago, miamama said:

 

The levels of bullshit to sell this story are too deep to fathom. But the most fucking offensively stupid thing I've seen is that Phyllis is repulsed by Jack but can't resist Billy. Billy???????!!!!!!!! 

 

Jack and Phyllis' rapist have the same face. I think her having trouble with that is the most realistic part of the story. 

[miamama]

20 minutes ago, DivaT said:

Jack and Phyllis' rapist have the same face. I think her having trouble with that is the most realistic part of the story. 

She had *no issues* having sex with Jack for about a year post-Marco. She has also stated she can't have sex with Jack because it would be cheating on Billy.

This has nothing to do with Marco. Show is not even pretending it does. 

[DivaT]

5 minutes ago, miamama said:

She had *no issues* having sex with Jack for about a year post-Marco. She has also stated she can't have sex with Jack because it would be cheating on Billy.

This has nothing to do with Marco. Show is not even pretending it does. 

Bad writing. But then what else is new. 

[Anna Yolei]

2 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

So I'm not a lawyer or a paralegal or even just a courtroom groupie with a gavel fetish, but Dylan's plan sounds somewhat like having the witnesses against Victor admit to perjury. 

I know, right? That's not how courts work. That's not how any of them work.

And Dylan is on the GCPF, no less. Good grief. Lock all of them up.