Sake614 July 7, 2016 Share July 7, 2016 I'd have a hard time believing Bob Woods would come out of retirement for this crapfest, but stranger things have happened. 2 Link to comment
IWantCandy71 July 7, 2016 Share July 7, 2016 (edited) I don't think this show *needs* Raymond Berlin. But it doesn't *need* Jasper Jacks, either, and yet so many have no problem with him coming back to a show that will mean even less airtime for those already here. I actually think Raymond, if he's going to be early mid sixties or older, could be more relevant than Jax. Not just because he'd be a viable romantic interest for the older ladies-something pretty much non existent right now-but because on the basis of what we know about both characters, Raymond could actually be a story catalyst. He could make something happen. What is going to be Jax's purpose, other than carrying Carly's purse and trading boring barbs with Sonny? Perhaps this best belongs in UO-but I never found Jax to be all that. I didn't like Brenda, so didn't care about their romance. Jax to me was just always so vanilla as played by Ingo-and he didn't have to be. Edited July 7, 2016 by IWantCandy71 4 Link to comment
dubbel zout July 7, 2016 Share July 7, 2016 The show has made the effort to tell us that Joss spends a lot of time with Jax in Australia, so it makes sense he returns to PC for her kidney story. Why do we need Raymond Berlin? It's not like Rebecca Budig's mother has added anything to her story. It's supremely unlikely her father will. The writing will utterly fail, as it always does, and the ridiculous pacing of the show means we'll see him only once every other month anyway. 6 Link to comment
UYI July 7, 2016 Share July 7, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said: James DePaiva and Bob Woods were both mentioned. Did you say James DePaiva I might be on board this maybe just maybe.... Edited July 7, 2016 by UYI 2 Link to comment
IWantCandy71 July 7, 2016 Share July 7, 2016 It hasn't even been confirmed they are casting Raymond, just rumor at this point, but both Bob Woods(who is quite a bit older than JD, isn't he?) and JD were mentioned as possibilities. I think both have been spotted at GH studios, but those could be false rumors. I can think of at least ten people I'd get rid of(bye Kristina !) before I'd bring on anyone new, but I think a gentlemen in his age range that isn't a complete tool, would be interesting. 1 Link to comment
TeeVee329 July 7, 2016 Share July 7, 2016 (edited) Gawd, it'd be all Rebecca Budig yelling at him for killing Dr. Michael Easton's wife or crying to him about him not being her real father if they are going to shove her into the Webbers. Just...please no. Edited July 7, 2016 by TeeVee329 2 Link to comment
UYI July 7, 2016 Share July 7, 2016 1 hour ago, IWantCandy71 said: It hasn't even been confirmed they are casting Raymond, just rumor at this point, but both Bob Woods(who is quite a bit older than JD, isn't he?) and JD were mentioned as possibilities. I think both have been spotted at GH studios, but those could be false rumors. I can think of at least ten people I'd get rid of(bye Kristina !) before I'd bring on anyone new, but I think a gentlemen in his age range that isn't a complete tool, would be interesting. Haha, I'm the JDP fangirl around here, so I had to bring him up and vouch for him since no else did beforehand. :) 2 Link to comment
jsbt July 7, 2016 Share July 7, 2016 Not buying it and I think it'd be an unfortunate showcase for any OLTLer at this point in time, given FV's profound bias and the show's terrible condition. 2 Link to comment
NiqueAlexis July 7, 2016 Share July 7, 2016 Last thing this show needs is another character that isn't a legacy character that needs too be filled. It's bad enough we got Hayden/RBu mammy, Finn/Me Lizard Claudette/Bree on here. I'm not even a Liz Stan haven't been since 2005 but where is her family? Her mother, her bland ass sister. Shit Felicia/Mac don't get airtime. Griffin who was tied to Duke a dead character nothing came out of that. What was the point? He has very little characterization other than being a priest^doctor & being the one Claudette slept with. Lucas is MIA again got shot almost died still didn't got no story. But Kiki ass got a long ass one when she was shot trying too help Morgan's sorry ass. 2 Link to comment
peachmangosteen July 7, 2016 Share July 7, 2016 6 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said: And if the rumor that he paid Heather to kidnap/steal either Hayden or Liz as a baby is true ... I refuse to acknowledge this rumor. REFUSE. 6 Link to comment
IWantCandy71 July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 I don't want Rebecca Budig and Liz to be related, either-especially not in such a way. I switch back and forth between tolerating Hayden(so far, only with Tracy) and not caring-but she and Liz are too much alike and I think their "rivalry" is infantile and boring at best. As far as James goes-I actually think he'd make a much better Jimmy Lee Holt recast, but perhaps Jimmy Lee is too much like Max. Thing is, if they didn't go the "Hayden is a Webber" direction, they could still make her Jimmy Lee's kid and tie her to the Qs. Does this show need another character? No, but that won't stop them. Link to comment
Fellaway July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 10 hours ago, peachmangosteen said: I was like "Who the fuck is Raymond?" lol! I have no doubt that he'll be cast eventually. I was, too! But, I gather, he's Hayden's father? If he's comin', I hope not in the form of JDP. I always hated his Max on OLTL. Never impressed with his acting. Link to comment
WendyCR72 July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 10 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said: I can think of at least ten people I'd get rid of(bye Kristina) At least Kristina - love or hate her - has an actual history on this show. She was born on this show. Get the hell rid of Finn, Hayden, Claudette, Nathan, and Griffin, for starters. And Kiki. Oh, look. Tons of pets gone, tons of money saved! Focus on ACTUAL GH characters. What a novel idea. 2 Link to comment
WendyCR72 July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 23 minutes ago, OnceSane said: Franco. You forgot Franco. Yes, yes I did. I think my brain was trying to protect me from a rage aneurysm there. But he can join the others I listed in a heartbeat, too. 3 Link to comment
NiqueAlexis July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 1 hour ago, WendyCR72 said: At least Kristina - love or hate her - has an actual history on this show. She was born on this show. Get the hell rid of Finn, Hayden, Claudette, Nathan, and Griffin, for starters. And Kiki. Oh, look. Tons of pets gone, tons of money saved! Focus on ACTUAL GH characters. What a novel idea. Um Morgan was born on this show too, has history & he completely sucks just like his mammy & daddy. All 3 of them can go along with Franco, Nina, Julian, Hayden's mother, Claudette, Finn, Kiki, & Jason who should have stayed dead. Hayden can stay only if she gets paired with Curtis. The only person she has chemistry with and the only time I like her. Also 2 of the people you mention Griffin & Nathan aren't pets not even by a long shot on this show. Both of them haven't had a lot of airtime esp Griffin since The Duke/Carlos angle wrapped up. Naturally I want both too stay. Claudette was created especially for Bree. They never thought they could actually get a BW since they had her in mind. Jelly & Frank just wanted her on the show. Nathan's non filled background was just a means too an end to do it. Especially because they were writing the story as they went along. Kristina is pointless & has been since she stop hating Sonny & started kissing his ass. The same with Michael it's just worser in his case after the wonderful story of him turning on Carson after AJ was killed & embracing the Qs. I dream for the day that Michael can go back too what he was before. Fuck what Mo wants. When Lucy comes back I rather she bring Serena & Christina with her. Trade Kiki out for them & bring back my dead Georgie. 2 Link to comment
WendyCR72 July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 5 minutes ago, NiqueAlexis said: Claudette was created especially for Bree Which spells pet. And maybe Nate isn't a pet, but SOMEONE clearly likes him because Ryan Paevey is as wooden as Pinocchio and he's still here. So buh bye to both. Why should anyone give two shits about Nate/Claudette? Claudette is just a blonde Nina, and we have seen how she has worked out. Another "get" actor who is uber pointless. I despise Sonny and hate everyone worships him, but it is what it is. It's not changing. And I do have sentimentality towards Krissy because of her past with the other child actresses that played her, and do think Lexi is competent, if not great. Meryl Streep could not sell this shit. But since Morgan and Mikey perform the same function, one of them can be jettisoned. I prefer Morgan to go. Mikey - for as useless as it is - is still a Q, so the potential exists. Same for Kristina and her Cassadine side. Morgan is Corinthos and Spencer, and the latter is practically dead minus Lulu, and the former is awful. So bye, Morgan! Besides, Dillion can pick up the slack in that age range. So my last post stands. At least Kristina has history. All the newbie hires, pets, and basically non GH characters can GTFO. I bet the show would be tighter and better for it. Assuming we can also ditch SA/JP and find ANYONE who gives enough of a crap to write a soap that isn't deadly boring and pointless as it is now. 3 Link to comment
NiqueAlexis July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, WendyCR72 said: Which spells pet. And maybe Nate isn't a pet, but SOMEONE clearly likes him because Ryan Paevey is as wooden as Pinocchio and he's still here. So buh bye to both. Why should anyone give two shits about Nate/Claudette? Claudette is just a blonde Nina, and we have seen how she has worked out. Another "get" actor who is uber pointless. I despise Sonny and hate everyone worships him, but it is what it is. It's not changing. And I do have sentimentality towards Krissy because of her past with the other child actresses that played her, and do think Lexi is competent, if not great. Meryl Streep could not sell this shit. But since Morgan and Mikey perform the same function, one of them can be jettisoned. I prefer Morgan to go. Mikey - for as useless as it is - is still a Q, so the potential exists. Same for Kristina and her Cassadine side. Morgan is Corinthos and Spencer, and the latter is practically dead minus Lulu, and the former is awful. So bye, Morgan! Besides, Dillion can pick up the slack in that age range. So my last post stands. At least Kristina has history. All the newbie hires, pets, and basically non GH characters can GTFO. I bet the show would be tighter and better for it. Assuming we can also ditch SA/JP and find ANYONE who gives enough of a crap to write a soap that isn't deadly boring and pointless as it is now. I'm not quite sure where you are getting from my post that Claudette isn't a pet. I said nothing too the affect that she wasn't. I said Nathan isn't a pet. There is a difference. He isn't that good(but I place chemistry above Acting when it comes too pairings for me) but he has fans a lot of them. Maybe that's why he still here. I don't give a shit about his past mess with Claudette either & I like him. He been good for my Fave & my favorite needs a love interest who isn't a asexual clown who makes her unlikeable. Third Kristina has 2 damn love interest does that make her a pet? You have attachment that's fine I don't. She doesn't have a ounces of Cassadine blood in her. She is a Cassadine in name only like Carly is a Spencer in name only. Yeah the shit with Sonny anit changing but that doesn't change the reality that he needs too go. Michael can stay he just has no purpose since he has been turned back into a Sonny ass kisser. Morgan can go. This Dillon is as interesting as watching paint dry. But he is a Q & needed I just rather they got Scott back. The 3 leads on this show have over 2 decades of history on this show & they brought this show too it's knees, too the point where it was almost cancelled(which is why Guza was fired among others) so yeah history don't mean jack shit too me in that regards. Get ridding of dead weight & all newbies why continuing too revolve the show around the very people that have help drive the audience away anit going too change a damn thing. You still going too have the same damn problem's. This show right know revolves around Sonny, Jason & Carly. Trying too make Franco work for extra matter. The only family they care about is the Corinthos & there damn off Springs. Jason & his family(though Sam is mostly a afterthought) Davis girls & Jeromes minus Lucas get the rest of the crumbs. Guza sucked, GW sucked, Ron sucked, NV sucks & Jelly suck. The only difference in the 3 is that Ron actually moved Sonny away from the center of GH universe. As long as this show holds on too the tired ol mess while continuing clinging too the outdated format of the mob being front & Center, while they're being written as noble good guy's since 2000 anit shit getting better. This show had 2 damn good writers Monty & Labine and the chances of getting Labine back too save this show is more like a cold day in hell. Edited July 8, 2016 by NiqueAlexis 1 Link to comment
WendyCR72 July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 9 minutes ago, NiqueAlexis said: But he is a Q & needed I just rather they got Scott back Well, yeah, I'd love for Scott to return but he's wisely still employed elsewhere, so that isn't happening. And even if Robert Watkins left, I have no confidence that a recast would be any better under Frank. And right now, I'll keep RW if it means Frank won't pick up John Paul Lavoisier, whom Days just canned... 3 Link to comment
NiqueAlexis July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 27 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said: Well, yeah, I'd love for Scott to return but he's wisely still employed elsewhere, so that isn't happening. And even if Robert Watkins left, I have no confidence that a recast would be any better under Frank. And right now, I'll keep RW if it means Frank won't pick up John Paul Lavoisier, whom Days just canned... I keep hearing that people are afraid that he come over here but that's on the days board & twitter. Yeah Scott anit leaving that shit(The Triangle that never ends) too come too worser shit. A lot of my like for Dillion had to do with Georgie she was my favorite. When he cheated on her & then followed Lulu around like a lost puppy dog I was though with him. I have always liked Scott and the way he played Dillon as quirky character in the real world quirky. He was always a human being not a caricature. Know he doesn't even have the quirkiness anymore. He just lust after untainable females(Lulu) & bitches who can't make up there minds (Kiki). But lord knows if he wants him he find a way too bring him over here. Frank specializes in that kind of shit. Though I always thought that he was more of a Frons pet then a Frank Pet. Link to comment
IWantCandy71 July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 I don't think a character having history automatically should mean they have precedence over a newbie. I find Kiki far more likeable and interesting and Hayley a better actress, than Kristina/Lexi. I do think common sense should play a role in who they feature. I also think Kelly Monaco and whoever is playing Jason, have been the two biggest pets this show has had for at least a decade, yet they are almost never mentioned here as being "pets". Second is Sonny and until recently, Carly in fourth. I mean, sure, a few different times Sam hasn't had great material, but she's consistently been on my screen an average of three days a week, minimum, for the past thirteen years. Sam ain't that interesting, and Jason is even less so. And speaking of "history", Sam never had it before they tied her to Alexis, and Alexis barely has it-she's the child of a plot point villain from the early eighties. Big deal. Yet those two are beloved characters now. I think a newbie like Hayden deserves the same chance to prove herself as they got. With that said, the cast is too big. Period. If they can't properly utilize the contract players they already have, it's nothing but ignorance and bad management to bring on more characters, even if technically those characters are "recurring". I've also seen, as already mentioned, the selective outrage. It's okay to bring back Jasper Jacks-because he has history-but it's not okay to bring on someone new. Actually, it's not okay to keep bringing back people, period-history or not-until they trim down the cast and utilize the ones they have, properly. 2 Link to comment
TeeVee329 July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 Same old, same old (garbage) in next week's spoilers: http://tvsourcemagazine.com/2016/07/general-hospital-spoilers-july-11-15-2016-edition/ Quote Liz and Franco analyze his unsavory criminal past and her history of always choosing Mr. Wrong. Will discussing Franco's "unsavory criminal past" involving mentioning that he fucking kidnapped her son and she shouldn't want to be anywhere near him? And I can't wait to hear the SERIAL KILLER's thoughts on why AJ was Mr. Wrong. Siiigh, Quiz... Quote TJ makes peace with Jordan. Oh phew! Wow, what an in-depth, engrossing, well-paced story this was! #alltheeyerolls 5 Link to comment
dubbel zout July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 Sonny offers comfort to a wrecked Alexis. He says "I told you so" less than a dozen times? 4 Link to comment
TeeVee329 July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 Seriously, how sad that Sonny has to comfort her. How about Molly and Kristina? How about Diane? Even Ned would be more acceptable than Sonny. 3 Link to comment
LeftPhalange July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 Someone should tell him what "dead to me" means. 9 Link to comment
dubbel zout July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 I think it's entirely in character for Sonny to want to "comfort" Alexis after her marriage implodes. After all, it gives him a chance to crow about how right he was that Julian is scum, the marriage was a mistake, etc. Self-righteous will always win out with Sonny. 8 Link to comment
ulkis July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, IWantCandy71 said: I also think Kelly Monaco and whoever is playing Jason, have been the two biggest pets this show has had for at least a decade, yet they are almost never mentioned here as being "pets". Steve Burton/Billy Miller are never mentioned here as pets?? People mention it often. I've talked about how I never think BM would be allowed to get away with the his extra weight if he were an actress (or maybe even another actor). If people don't talk about Steve Burton being favored as much anymore it's probably because he's not on the show anymore, but I think you would be hard-pressed to find someone here who would say that he was not THE most favored person on the show. I think Kelly Monaco is favored under Frank Valentini, and I think she was liked by Frons but I don't think Guza gave a damn either way for Sam besides as Jason's girlfriend. When she wasn't with Jason, she was vilified and had a B romance with Lucky, and even when she was with Jason, she was just background girlfriend for much of the time. Edited July 8, 2016 by ulkis 8 Link to comment
IWantCandy71 July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 (edited) I see comments that Jason is boring and Billy can't act, but I don't know that I've ever seen Billy mentioned as a pet. Jason, yes. Steve B? Oh sure, but how often does Steve really get mentioned anymore in the main thread? As far as how Kelly was written as Sam, that really wasn't my point. Written badly or written well, I can't recall a time in the past thirteen years when she's ever been truly without some sort of story, nor can I recall many weeks, if any, that she was on less than three days a week for any real length of time. And I certainly can't recall too many people talking about HER as a pet, here. Not that in the end, it really matters. It's not a competition. I'm free to think that the four characters who have eaten this show for the past decade or more, are the same characters eating it now. I'm free to think for instance, that Kelly Monaco is a bigger pet than Rebecca Budig(so far). And you're free to completely disagree. It wasn't that long ago that I can't quickly bring to mind all the things they did to try and make Sam "relevant". I have absolutely no doubt that Frank or someone at ABC consider Jason and Sam "leads" just as much as they consider Mo and Laura leads(even though Laura has nothing to do these days but prop Sonny and be a Jason cheerleader.) Edited July 8, 2016 by IWantCandy71 3 Link to comment
HeatLifer July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 KeMo has been a "pet" since Day 1....and still is. I think most acknowledge this? I hope? It's not a bad thing. It's just what it is. 5 Link to comment
peachmangosteen July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 (edited) 1 hour ago, IWantCandy71 said: It wasn't that long ago that I can't quickly bring to mind all the things they did to try and make Sam "relevant". And that's exactly what they're doing with all their new pets, too. It's what soap writers always do. Or they've at least been doing it since I started watching soaps about 18 years ago. Edited July 8, 2016 by peachmangosteen 2 Link to comment
IWantCandy71 July 8, 2016 Share July 8, 2016 Soaps used to be more subtle about it, though. *shrug* That's one of the reasons I started out liking Finn. He wasn't shoved down our throats, airtime wise. But that stuff at the hospital, like he was TheGreatestDoctorWhoEverLived- NOPE. Bad, show. That's one way to guarantee I'm going to get a hate on for a character-making me feel like I *have* to love them. Uh uh. 3 Link to comment
Chairperson Meow July 9, 2016 Share July 9, 2016 Billy can act and isn't really on social media acting like a douche canoe, so I dgaf. I mean, it's Jason Morgan, Human Robot Super Saian Hero God of Men, as written by morons. How the fuck is he supposed to actually turn that into Masterpiece Theater? I think he's gorgeous and meow. I don't see curves, I see manly beefiness. I like that. I think he'd probably prefer playing Jason Q tbh. That's probably what was sold to him. That's my opinion as the Q scenes are his best ones and he's awkward w/Mo. But Mo is a dick and the Ultimate Super Pet. But he's like that old dog with rabies that needs to be put down. That being said, if we get JDP, I want his character paired with JE. She deserves a good pairing. 1 Link to comment
Asp Burger July 9, 2016 Share July 9, 2016 (edited) Quote KeMo has been a "pet" since Day 1....and still is. I think most acknowledge this? I hope? It's not a bad thing. It's just what it is. That set me against the character of Sam, and she's never overcome it. She was too prominent too fast, and her early stories were terrible (the Dead Man's Hand, the grifter back-story, the mentally handicapped brother, the skeevy adoptive father and ex-boyfriend coming to town in her wake, the "forced to ballroom dance" embarrassment with Guza's wife playing the villainness), and they kept changing the tone on a dime. Making Kelly Monaco ("ex-Livvie, Port Charles," as they say) a bona fide center on General Hospital was made to seem an important project in which viewers were obliged to participate, like saving scrap metal for a war effort. Hayden/Rebecca Budig's intro and integration have not been nearly as bad, and Rebecca Budig is a better actress than KMo. She can do more with good material and she can do more with bad material, and I can always understand what she says. I say that as someone who used to refer to her AMC character as Greensleaze when I occasionally watched that show. I have only really become a Budig fan in her GH period. In fact, really unpopular opinion: One of the few good things I can say about the contraction of the soap industry, and GH as shelter for displaced actors from canceled ones, is that I am getting to enjoy the work of people like Budig, Maura West, and intermittently Roger Howarth (the character he has to play is like heavy ankle weights, though). I've become a fan of all of them. I doubt it's ever going to happen with Stafford, but you can't win 'em all. Edited July 9, 2016 by Asp Burger 7 Link to comment
ulkis July 12, 2016 Share July 12, 2016 Lord at the subject of the promo, but the promo itself is actually decently done for once. Link to comment
TeeVee329 July 12, 2016 Share July 12, 2016 (edited) Of course they had to sneak Sonny in there. Ugh. Edited July 12, 2016 by TeeVee329 4 Link to comment
IWantCandy71 July 12, 2016 Share July 12, 2016 She never should have had ONE kid, and definitely does not need to be reproducing again. YUCK. 2 Link to comment
TeeVee329 July 12, 2016 Share July 12, 2016 Molly being all, "It's not mine!" reminded me again this is the type of thing that SHOULD be happening to a character her age. Why is all the bed hopping and unplanned pregnancies happening with the older set? 3 Link to comment
dubbel zout July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 It's been how long since the last baby? GH seems to have a law that there has to be one every x months. 2 Link to comment
Oracle42 July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 (edited) So it's Molly, Alexis Kristina or Sam - Kristina hasn't been with anyone since she came home and Molly is terrifyingly responsible, so Alexis or Sam - though I can't imagine why Sam would take a pregnancy test at her mother's house Edited July 13, 2016 by Oracle42 Link to comment
TeeVee329 July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 3 minutes ago, Oracle42 said: So it's Molly, Alexis Kristina or Sam - Kristina hasn't been with anyone since she came home and Molly is terrifyingly responsible, so Alexis or Sam - though I can't imagine why Sam would take a pregnancy test at her mother's house Oh, I don't think we're supposed to be guessing which Davis Girl it is. Isn't that the test Julian made Alexis take? 7 minutes ago, dubbel zout said: It's been how long since the last baby? GH seems to have a law that there has to be one every x months. I guess Sabrina's spawn? So...six months? Link to comment
Oracle42 July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 I was just assuming that Alexis found it since there's supposed to be a "shocking twist" Link to comment
TeeVee329 July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 (edited) I think the twist is that we were supposed to think Alexis was lying about being pregnant, but she really is. And Kristina found the test, not Alexis. Edited July 13, 2016 by TeeVee329 2 Link to comment
Oracle42 July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 (edited) Ah. - Also, ugh to the writers attempting to redeem this shitty relationship with a baby Edited July 13, 2016 by Oracle42 4 Link to comment
TeeVee329 July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 Seriously. How about real stories for Lucas, Kristina, and Molly before saddling Alexis and Julian with a baby. 7 Link to comment
dubbel zout July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 How about Lucas and Brad adopt a baby, if we have to have a baby story? 7 Link to comment
TeeVee329 July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 That would actually be an original, groundbreaking story so you're barking up the wrong tree. 6 Link to comment
jsbt July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 They don't need a baby. Every fucking gay on American soaps gets a fucking baby to neuter them. 3 Link to comment
WendyCR72 July 13, 2016 Share July 13, 2016 If Alexis is knocked up, I hope she finds the nearest staircase. 5 Link to comment
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