S07.E12: Something Blue

[ghoulina]

23 hours ago, GreatKazu said:

lol  Yeah, I was thinking Ryan can steal oars and Matt can steel kayaks. 

It would be like Deliverance 2018. 

21 hours ago, kit.kat343 said:

 I wonder if the wedding already happened in real time.  Without the MTV cameras, David is going to fly out of there faster than heads spin in the Exorcist.  Debra is about to lose her precious MTV fame and David.  If she weren't such an awful person I would feel sorry for her.

They DID get married. At my town's aquarium! (No, I wasn't there. If it hadn't been closed for the event, I would have sneaked into the zoo and tried to get some pics.) I'm a bit perplexed as to their relationship. It seems to me that David wanted Farrah, but settled for Deb. 

[FairyDusted]

Just EWWWWWWWWWW!  David comes off as such a creeper I don't wish him on anyone. DebOG must be insane.

[Lusterleaf]

Yeah DebzOG is pretty dumb for not seeing David isn't into her. Every time David talks to her he acts like he is annoyed and short with her - he definitely has an agenda. 

[FairyDusted]

She must be desperate. She wouldn't allow anyone else to come close to his rudeness. 

[CofCinci]

Deb is such a narcissist that the only reason she puts up with David’s numbness and disinterest is because of his status/title as an MD.  She’s only marrying his title. 

[GreatKazu]

Deb was catfished. She is desperate. 

She has blinders on. She doesn't see the things most people would see when red flags shoot up. 

[FairyDusted]

35 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

Deb is such a narcissist that the only reason she puts up with David’s numbness and disinterest is because of his status/title as an MD.  She’s only marrying his title. 

Duke of Douches? OH that's right a Doctor. Does this guy practice or is he a professor somewhere. Either way. Eww LOL  

1 minute ago, GreatKazu said:

Deb was catfished. She is desperate. 

She has blinders on. She doesn't see the things most people would see when red flags shoot up. 

I think she is too. For what HE THINKS she has. Which might not be much more than her two homes. 

[GreatKazu]

Duke of Douches...lol 

Lord of Lardass...Prince Prick. 

[FairyDusted]

Duchess  of Douches @GreatKazu   Fixed that for ya! 

[CofCinci]

4 hours ago, FairyDusted said:

Duke of Douches? OH that's right a Doctor. Does this guy practice or is he a professor somewhere. Either way. Eww LOL  

Does he practice? How offensive!!!  Debra would want you to know that her Dr. Husband is a Johns Hopkins Doctor. Better than other doctors, just like her EMBA is better than a plain old MBA. 

[radishcake]

If you don’t see your post it was either hidden for content or because it quoted hidden content. We’ll be handing out time outs for all the back biting in this thread. 

[ReadMeLattice]

On 2/21/2018 at 10:54 AM, mamadrama said:

God, that reminds me of a time I was at a friend's house with my son.Son was 3 at the time and we were kind of at the end of potty training. We'd been hanging out on the porch, which was about as close to the interior of her house as I liked to get. We were just about to leave when suddenly my son had to go poop. That was the NASTIEST place I've ever been in. (And I used to be a social worker who was called in for dirty houses.) I insisted on carrying him through the house, because the floors truly were that bad, and in the bathroom I had to keep my eyes closed and breathe through my nose. Dear Lord. 

I'd say in real life Farrah's house is probably really clean, too. She's too anal (ha ha) to let it get any other way, I think. And we've heard what Leah's house used to look like...

Re: episode. Damn, I almost *almost* felt sorry for Mac. I had so much secondhand embarrassment for her during this episode that I couldn't even work up any bad feelings for her. 

I totally think Farrah is rude. (With some of the things she does I also understand where she's coming from, but I still think she's rude about it.) My thing, though, is the inconsistency. If they're going to fire for her attitude then why not fire Jenelle and David for theirs? (I know David just got fired but that was for a different reason.) Or Adam for refusing to film. Or Amber for domestic abuse? Or Rhine for endangering lives? Or Leah for her drug antics? The message it seems to be sending out is, "It's okay to literally put people's lives at risk, including your own family's, but you can't be rude to the staff-even when they deserve it."

Hear hear. 

The one I most notice this disparity with is Amber. She treats the crew like absolute crap and started a fight on stage yet somehow they *still* cater to her. 

[Chickabiddy]

Farrah can "It's my house, it's my rules!!" and "I am an independent contractor, so you don't own me MTV." all she wants. But the reality is that MTV needs Farrah and her bullshit a whole lot less than Farrah needs their $500,00  a year gravy train for slowly transforming herself into a blow up sex doll cum screaming banshee on national television. A blow up doll/banshee with no education or marketable skills beyond fisting herself in the back of a limo. Farrah's gonna have to give a whole lot of fucks to make up for that half a million dollar deficit in her income. Vaginal rejuvenation is going to have to become a yearly maintenance kind of thing to counteract all the time she will have to spend on her back.

MTV is not firing Farrah because she does porn. They are firing her because she is the Queen of the Raging Bitches. That is a lot harder to explain in court, and in this puritanical country we live in, a jury or judge will be happy to buy MTV's argument about the fallen woman as bad influence. Whatever cash she does get from MTV will be eaten up in lawyers fees.  If Farrah had just tried to be remotely pleasant on, say, every other day, she would not have landed herself in this mess.

My point it that you can be all bad ass and 'my way or the highway" only if you understand the power dynamic you are in with the other party. Farrah may be an independent contractor, but she sure as shit was a whole lot more dependent on MTV than they were on her.  It would have been far better for Farrah to smile and say, " The bathroom is right down the hall. Thanks again for that big check for doing absolutely fuck all of value." And then just smiled sweetly as she booked a maid to come clean that mess daily.

And yes, it may be unfair because others have displayed equally egregious bad behavior. But life ain't fair and that is how the cookie crumbles sometimes when you choose to be a reprehensible human being just for the sport of it. Farrah and her stank attitude just shot herself in the foot to the tune of a six-figure salary. 

I blame her family's complete and total sycophancy for giving Farrah the idea that she is

a) somehow important

b) That she actually matters to MTV's bottom line

c) That she has any real talent or star quality besides being a walking talking sideshow freak.

Edited February 26, 2018 by Chickabiddy
Because I remain the world's shittiest typist.

[Lusterleaf]

If MTV is firing Farrah because she is a bitch, then Amber and Jenelle should follow suit.  I think Jenelle is more diva-esque... didn't she demand that MTV put her and UBT in a separate rental home when they did the reunion special?

[SPLAIN]

8 minutes ago, Lusterleaf said:

If MTV is firing Farrah because she is a bitch, then Amber and Jenelle should follow suit.  I think Jenelle is more diva-esque... didn't she demand that MTV put her and UBT in a separate rental home when they did the reunion special?

Exactly. Every single of these hags (except Chelsea) has committed some over-the-top bullshit since the fourth wall was removed. Amber tried to commit assault and battery upon another cast member. She only failed because she trotted out like a cow trying to flee a tornado and was held back by security.

I guess the cast members get a green light for committing egregious acts including criminal acts. But if you dare act like a crazy bitch, YOU ARE FIRED! I don't even like Farrah, my God. MTV double standards and all.

Lather, rinse, repeat with this topic. Just get rid of her and everyone else already.

Edited February 26, 2018 by SPLAIN

[Lusterleaf]

1 minute ago, SPLAIN said:

She only failed because she trotted out like a cow trying to flee a tornado and was held back by security.

 

I almost spit out my water reading this. LOL.

[Chickabiddy]

19 minutes ago, Lusterleaf said:

If MTV is firing Farrah because she is a bitch, then Amber and Jenelle should follow suit.  I think Jenelle is more diva-esque... didn't she demand that MTV put her and UBT in a separate rental home when they did the reunion special?

 

13 minutes ago, SPLAIN said:

Exactly. Every single of these hags (except Chelsea) has committed some over-the-top bullshit since the fourth wall was removed. Amber tried to commit assault and battery upon another cast member. She only failed because she trotted out like a cow trying to flee a tornado and was held back by security.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Right. I get it. It;'s not fair. But when MTV holds all the money and the power in the equation, they don't have to be fair. MTV can pretty much decide which independent  dependent contractor they want to keep around. Life isn't fair. Boo hoo. All of these heifers are so easily replaceable.  And we all serve at the pleasure of our masters in the workplace, particularly independent contractors. They have even fewer protections than full time employees on the cog.  And for whatever reason, Farrah's paymasters are over her antics.  So, buh bye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. 

Farrah bit the hand that fed her over and over again for YEARS. Why does it surprise anyone that MTV is just over it? 

My point is that all of the these factors should have entered into Farrah's calculus at some point. And all of the other "stars" better look at what is happening to Farrah and make some recalculations of their own if they want to hold on to their golden tickets. Let's not forget that the only things these girls did to get on the TV was get knocked up too young and look somewhat good on camera. 

Edited February 26, 2018 by Chickabiddy

[GreatKazu]

The sponsors hold the money. :-)  

ching ching $$$$

[Chickabiddy]

1 minute ago, GreatKazu said:

The sponsors hold the money. :-)  

ching ching $$$$

 

And MTV is the go between  between Farrah and the sponsors - who apparently don't care about Farrah because I haven't seen any candlelight vigils in her name or threats to pull sponsorship until her majesty returns. :-) 

[GreatKazu]

No one cares about Farrah. I think that gets muddied in all of this. 

[ReadMeLattice]

1 hour ago, GreatKazu said:

No one cares about Farrah. I think that gets muddied in all of this. 

Yeah, I certainly don't. I'm just baffled at why MTV/the general viewing population thinks she's worse than any of the others, unless they're obsessed with the porn thing. If we're talking unpleasantness and general rudeness, Farrah would only be at the middle of the list for me. Amber would be absolutely f*cking insufferable to be around, and Kailyn, Jenelle, and Briana would be a very close second IMO. Honestly I'd really hate to be around Cate or Maci, too (although I admit to hating Maci for perhaps no good reason, she just annoys the hell out of me). Farrah's bitchiness is just sort of somewhere in that mix to me, not vastly better or worse.

So I don't think anybody is "defending" Farrah or saying she's awesome. I just personally don't get the intense hatred for her when I look at videos of her put out by MTV in comparison to, say, videos of Kail or Bri, or people worshipping Maci and Cate. Even Amber gets a fair share of atta-girls, which I truly can't understand because I think she's by far the worst the show has had to offer.

Edited February 26, 2018 by Lm2162

[Tatum]

1 hour ago, Chickabiddy said:

 

Right. I get it. It;'s not fair. But when MTV holds all the money and the power in the equation, they don't have to be fair. MTV can pretty much decide which independent  dependent contractor they want to keep around. Life isn't fair. Boo hoo. All of these heifers are so easily replaceable.  And we all serve at the pleasure of our masters in the workplace, particularly independent contractors. They have even fewer protections than full time employees on the cog.  And for whatever reason, Farrah's paymasters are over her antics.  So, buh bye. Don't let the door hit you on the way out. 

Farrah bit the hand that fed her over and over again for YEARS. Why does it surprise anyone that MTV is just over it? 

My point is that all of the these factors should have entered into Farrah's calculus at some point. And all of the other "stars" better look at what is happening to Farrah and make some recalculations of their own if they want to hold on to their golden tickets. Let's not forget that the only things these girls did to get on the TV was get knocked up too young and look somewhat good on camera. 

This is all true, but I just can't figure out why none of the other girls have  irritated the production crew to the point where they were out as well. Most of these girls have been extremely bitchy or diva-ish and acted like they were doing 11th St Productions or whatever a favor just by showing up. Remember that one camera guy that went on Reddit and said these were the worst people he had ever met in his life? (I meant that as a rhetorical question, not specifically asking you if you remember this, @Chickabiddy). And I think that guy only filmed TM2 girls so Farrah wasn't even in his equation.

[SPLAIN]

49 minutes ago, Tatum said:

This is all true, but I just can't figure out why none of the other girls have  irritated the production crew to the point where they were out as well. Most of these girls have been extremely bitchy or diva-ish and acted like they were doing 11th St Productions or whatever a favor just by showing up. Remember that one camera guy that went on Reddit and said these were the worst people he had ever met in his life? (I meant that as a rhetorical question, not specifically asking you if you remember this, @Chickabiddy). And I think that guy only filmed TM2 girls so Farrah wasn't even in his equation.

Excellent point.

For all the shit we see on our television screens, you know it is worse behind the scenes and plenty of stuff has been edited out. Farrah is more than happy to give us her drama on camera while the rest of these fools hide their drama and act as if their shit don't stink. MTV editors have also had a hand in keeping things from the public and not airing all of the dirty laundry for the other cast members for a hell of a long time. We received so much information from what hasn't aired via The Ashley and other sources. 

Going by what Morgan J. Freeman tweeted about people being "fucktards" for complaining about David posting the gun photo and the slurs, and going by The Ashley's report about MJF trying hard to get David to apologize, it is pretty damn obvious that MJF and MTV are not disturbed by any of the deplorable and corrupt actions, including criminal undertaking of the rest of the cast, especially those actions that put lives at risk. Farrah was in harm's way when Amber went ballistic. Michael was injured during that skirmish and had damage done to his hearing aid.  Amber alluded to wanting to punch out Mackenzie on the last reunion show. Look, I loathe Mackenzie, but Amber does not have a right to go around making threats. She is an abuser who was convicted of DV and spent time in prison. She is a ticking time-bomb. When Amber demands Heather the producer be fired, they give in.

Only when MTV's precious crew pout and cry about Farrah's behavior that suddenly a cast member's actions becomes an issue to the point of being fired.

Edited February 26, 2018 by SPLAIN

[ghoulina]

I agree that some of the other girls have been just as horrible to production. Jenelle comes to mind. The only difference I can think of is that maybe MTV finds Farrah's overall scenes less compelling? Maybe they'll put up with some BS from Jenelle or Amber, because they know people are tuning in to see what drama is going on with Matt or David or whomever that week. Farrah's scenes have been pretty low key all season. So maybe they just don't think the cost outweighs the benefits. 

[FairyDusted]

Farrah is so boring right now it's a perfect time to grab a snack. 

[MinorL]

On 2/24/2018 at 8:09 PM, SnarkKitty said:

1. Simon is a thirsty wannabe; I take anything he says with a grain of salt as he's also a habitual liar.
2.  My bathroom apartheid is real. I don't like contractors using my bathroom and I won't even share my bathroom with my husband HOWEVER if I was working with a crew of 3-4 people for the past eight years, and they spent hours upon hours in my house AND I had multiple bathrooms, I'd feel like a right asshole making them use a port-a-potty instead of setting one aside for their use (and asking to be reimbursed for necessary cleaning.) And wrt right assholes ...

3. I could have a pocket full of fucks and I wouldn't spare a single one for what MTV is doing to that entitled, plasticized, overly indulged, build-a-body, unintelligent, heinous, RACIST sociopathic asshole cunt of a wildebeest known to us as Farrah Abraham.  That karma is LONG delayed. She is without question the absolute worst of the pile of waste that assembled forms the Teen Mom franchise. Every one of them has been ruined by the fame and money to an extent, but she has been ruined beyond redemption.  

But, you know. Mileage, vary.

 

A few days late, but I just wanted to say that I love you and this post. 

[druzy]

I think it's still there:

[ReadMeLattice]

18 hours ago, SPLAIN said:

Excellent point.

For all the shit we see on our television screens, you know it is worse behind the scenes and plenty of stuff has been edited out. Farrah is more than happy to give us her drama on camera while the rest of these fools hide their drama and act as if their shit don't stink. MTV editors have also had a hand in keeping things from the public and not airing all of the dirty laundry for the other cast members for a hell of a long time. We received so much information from what hasn't aired via The Ashley and other sources. 

Going by what Morgan J. Freeman tweeted about people being "fucktards" for complaining about David posting the gun photo and the slurs, and going by The Ashley's report about MJF trying hard to get David to apologize, it is pretty damn obvious that MJF and MTV are not disturbed by any of the deplorable and corrupt actions, including criminal undertaking of the rest of the cast, especially those actions that put lives at risk. Farrah was in harm's way when Amber went ballistic. Michael was injured during that skirmish and had damage done to his hearing aid.  Amber alluded to wanting to punch out Mackenzie on the last reunion show. Look, I loathe Mackenzie, but Amber does not have a right to go around making threats. She is an abuser who was convicted of DV and spent time in prison. She is a ticking time-bomb. When Amber demands Heather the producer be fired, they give in.

Only when MTV's precious crew pout and cry about Farrah's behavior that suddenly a cast member's actions becomes an issue to the point of being fired.

 

This.

And the thing is, Freeman's complaints don't even make sense. Unfortunately, with regard to the shooting, that violence has already happened...we can fight for various things so it's less likely in the future, but it is already done. Meanwhile, David was still on the MTV dole and able to use their platform to disseminate his dangerous BS, INCLUDING his rah-rah glorification of guns and hate crimes towards gay people, *which likely adds to the risk of future shootings and hate crimes.* 

There were real reasons to say something about it and they were related. Fans have a lot of control over TV shows in many cases--people's complaints DID do something, and as a result, David will be less able to spread his bigotry around on national television while getting paid for it. So he can miss me with his faux outrage that people were focusing too much on David and not on things he deemed more pertinent.

Edited February 27, 2018 by Lm2162

[CofCinci]

I stated this in the Farrah thread a few days ago. The real reason Freeman is “firing” Farrah is because she won’t adhere to the law that the set teacher is required. Production and Network open themselves up to fines and litigation. 

[teapot]

3 minutes ago, CofCinci said:

I stated this in the Farrah thread a few days ago. The real reason Freeman is “firing” Farrah is because she won’t adhere to the law that the set teacher is required. Production and Network open themselves up to fines and litigation. 

I hope she gets abso-fucking-lutely nothing.  All of these reasons are why I hate her;  she thinks the laws of regular human life do not apply to her.  And she's raising her "star"  (sorry, guys, that child is neither cute nor charming....) to be the same way, which will serve her *so well* in life.  /sarcasm

[Tatum]

2 hours ago, CofCinci said:

I stated this in the Farrah thread a few days ago. The real reason Freeman is “firing” Farrah is because she won’t adhere to the law that the set teacher is required. Production and Network open themselves up to fines and litigation. 

Thanks for clarifying, that makes total sense! (I mean, not that Freeman gives two shits about Sophia's schooling, but potential fines and litigation I absolutely believe would be enough incentive to fire her).

[Kroliosis]

I am not sure where Farrah filed her case against MTV, but from first hand knowledge, independent contractors can't be "fired".  She would have no case where I live.  I am not sure how this even has legs.  Where are all those lawyer people?!

[FairyDusted]

There is still a contract between the Parents and Paychecks. That's what is missing. We have seen no contracts. Not that I think she will get a damn thing. I couldn't care less about what she does EXPECPT in regards to Sophia. The manner in which she is teaching her is stunning. And not in a good way. But we must remember….She has her own life! LOL 

[Kroliosis]

16 hours ago, FairyDusted said:

There is still a contract between the Parents and Paychecks. That's what is missing. We have seen no contracts. Not that I think she will get a damn thing. I couldn't care less about what she does EXPECPT in regards to Sophia. The manner in which she is teaching her is stunning. And not in a good way. But we must remember….She has her own life! LOL 

Ahh suing for breech of contract is totally different from suing for being fired.  Thanks for pointing that out!  I was getting caught up in the semantics.

[Chris Knight]

Alright I'm just gonna come right out and say it. What is with these women who are having sex with so many men, they don't know who the father of their child is ? Carol doesn't know who Gary's father is ? If I were Bigfoot, I would be demanding a paternity test as soon as Loser Amber had her baby.

[Snarky McSnarky]

On 2/27/2018 at 11:36 AM, Tatum said:

Thanks for clarifying, that makes total sense! (I mean, not that Freeman gives two shits about Sophia's schooling, but potential fines and litigation I absolutely believe would be enough incentive to fire her).

Production costs in L.A. are quite high for television -- even shitty reality shows like TM.  They have to pay the "talent" and provide lodging and transportation, rent a studio with all of the equipment and personnel, craft services, security, etc., etc.  If some Diva causes filming to be shut down for the day, they still have to pay for all of that.

[Snarky McSnarky]

On 2/26/2018 at 9:56 AM, Chickabiddy said:

 

And MTV is the go between  between Farrah and the sponsors - who apparently don't care about Farrah because I haven't seen any candlelight vigils in her name or threats to pull sponsorship until her majesty returns. :-) 

I can just see a lonely, shivering Michael standing on the sidewalk outside Viacom's headquarters in Santa Monica, clutching his little candle in his hands.  

[TipseyGirl]

On 2/22/2018 at 1:54 PM, Phoebe70 said:

Honestly, when we had our basement refinished, one of the contractors used to take huge dumps in our bathroom (after eating 10 chili dogs and drinking two 2-liters of Coke for his lunch).  Sometimes he didn't flush the toilet either.  My friend made the same mistake of hiring him and he somehow ended up getting poop on her bathroom wall and ceiling!  So yeah, I can totally understand why Farrah doesn't want a bunch of people using her toilet.  (That's about the only thing with Farrah I can agree with, BTW)

Whaaaaa??? That is VILE. 

[Tatum]

On 2/28/2018 at 3:09 PM, FairyDusted said:

There is still a contract between the Parents and Paychecks. That's what is missing. We have seen no contracts. Not that I think she will get a damn thing. I couldn't care less about what she does EXPECPT in regards to Sophia. The manner in which she is teaching her is stunning. And not in a good way. But we must remember….She has her own life! LOL 

Based on what the posters have dug up on her lawyer, I myself am not super confident she's going to come away with much but a hefty legal bill.

 

BUT- if the lawyer can dig up something in the contract that the other girls have breached, Farrah might have a case. While she might have breached her own contract, if she can prove only she is held to those standards, I can see her being successful in her lawsuit. It doesn't even have to cost production money or cause a potential liability- if they aren't enforcing the contracts on all girls I think that is a legitimate gripe.

If there's a no violence clause at all (and given the amounts of brawls that have taken place on the RW/RR challenge, I am sure Viacom sticks that in there), I think Viacom is in trouble, honestly. Farrah was assaulted by Amber while at a Teen Mom event. It would not look too good if production found a loophole to fire the victim while maintaining the perpetrator.

 

ETA: absolutely not a lawyer. The above is my opinion only.

Edited March 2, 2018 by Tatum

[druzy]

2 hours ago, Tatum said:

Based on what the posters have dug up on her lawyer, I myself am not super confident she's going to come away with much but a hefty legal bill.

 

BUT- if the lawyer can dig up something in the contract that the other girls have breached, Farrah might have a case. While she might have breached her own contract, if she can prove only she is held to those standards, I can see her being successful in her lawsuit. It doesn't even have to cost production money or cause a potential liability- if they aren't enforcing the contracts on all girls I think that is a legitimate gripe.

If there's a no violence clause at all (and given the amounts of brawls that have taken place on the RW/RR challenge, I am sure Viacom sticks that in there), I think Viacom is in trouble, honestly. Farrah was assaulted by Amber while at a Teen Mom event. It would not look too good if production found a loophole to fire the victim while maintaining the perpetrator.

 

ETA: absolutely not a lawyer. The above is my opinion only.

That's brilliant! Hopefully, for Farrah's sake, her attorney reads this thread.

[DangerousMinds]

5 hours ago, Chris Knight said:

Alright I'm just gonna come right out and say it. What is with these women who are having sex with so many men, they don't know who the father of their child is ? Carol doesn't know who Gary's father is ? If I were Bigfoot, I would be demanding a paternity test as soon as Loser Amber had her baby.

It can happen. Did you ever see "Mamma Mia?" ?

[GreatKazu]

11 hours ago, Tatum said:

Based on what the posters have dug up on her lawyer, I myself am not super confident she's going to come away with much but a hefty legal bill.

 

BUT- if the lawyer can dig up something in the contract that the other girls have breached, Farrah might have a case. While she might have breached her own contract, if she can prove only she is held to those standards, I can see her being successful in her lawsuit. It doesn't even have to cost production money or cause a potential liability- if they aren't enforcing the contracts on all girls I think that is a legitimate gripe.

If there's a no violence clause at all (and given the amounts of brawls that have taken place on the RW/RR challenge, I am sure Viacom sticks that in there), I think Viacom is in trouble, honestly. Farrah was assaulted by Amber while at a Teen Mom event. It would not look too good if production found a loophole to fire the victim while maintaining the perpetrator.

 

ETA: absolutely not a lawyer. The above is my opinion only.

Excellent point, Tatum about the violence clause. Let's hope. 

You brought up RW/RR. I am thinking of the infamous spitting incident where Puck spit in David's face. John Murray was faced with having to get rid of Puck due to some violation of contract, I assume no violence clause. The only thing that saved Puck was the fact that several cast members had taken Puck's side and demand he be allowed to stay. Murray eventually got Puck and David to put an end to the fight, which as you know if you followed this particular season, it didn't end there. 

[CandysWrapRoom]

On 2/23/2018 at 11:09 AM, CaliforniaLove said:

Somewhere Emily Valentine was lurking in a corner going "see the guy with the flamingos on his suit? He sells opiates." #euphoria4eva

best cross show post evah.

[CandysWrapRoom]

On 2/23/2018 at 11:09 AM, CaliforniaLove said:

Can't get rid of the quote box... sorry.

I finally got a chance to watch this episode and that wedding was just awful all around.  However when Larry was giving his toast, I actually felt bad for Ryan.  It looked like his father's words made him actually feel... you know, feelings, and he did not have the slightest clue what to do with them.  So many addicts become addicts because they can't deal with their emotions and substances help stuff them down and cover them up.  In that moment I saw a broken addict and felt profoundly sad.

The rest just made me cackle, especially Maci & Jenn's drunken love fest and Ryan's chew and obsession with money.

[Marilee]

On 2/22/2018 at 1:54 PM, Phoebe70 said:

Honestly, when we had our basement refinished, one of the contractors used to take huge dumps in our bathroom (after eating 10 chili dogs and drinking two 2-liters of Coke for his lunch).  Sometimes he didn't flush the toilet either.  My friend made the same mistake of hiring him and he somehow ended up getting poop on her bathroom wall and ceiling!  So yeah, I can totally understand why Farrah doesn't want a bunch of people using her toilet.  (That's about the only thing with Farrah I can agree with, BTW)

OMG I hate Pinterest but all of those diy home repair/renovation/remodeling boards are looking better and better 

[GreatKazu]

On ‎3‎/‎1‎/‎2018 at 5:18 AM, Kroliosis said:

Ahh suing for breech of contract is totally different from suing for being fired.  Thanks for pointing that out!  I was getting caught up in the semantics.

Breech and breach are two very different things. 

[Kroliosis]

1 hour ago, GreatKazu said:

Breech and breach are two very different things. 

Clearly a typo but thanks for pointing it out a month later!

[GreatKazu]

1 minute ago, Kroliosis said:

Clearly a typo but thanks for pointing it out a month later!

Sure. Anytime. 

 

 

lol 

[FairyDusted]

We get behind sometimes. LOL! Life and shit.

[GreatKazu]

On ‎2‎/‎26‎/‎2018 at 12:33 PM, SPLAIN said:

Excellent point.

For all the shit we see on our television screens, you know it is worse behind the scenes and plenty of stuff has been edited out. Farrah is more than happy to give us her drama on camera while the rest of these fools hide their drama and act as if their shit don't stink. MTV editors have also had a hand in keeping things from the public and not airing all of the dirty laundry for the other cast members for a hell of a long time. We received so much information from what hasn't aired via The Ashley and other sources. 

Going by what Morgan J. Freeman tweeted about people being "fucktards" for complaining about David posting the gun photo and the slurs, and going by The Ashley's report about MJF trying hard to get David to apologize, it is pretty damn obvious that MJF and MTV are not disturbed by any of the deplorable and corrupt actions, including criminal undertaking of the rest of the cast, especially those actions that put lives at risk. Farrah was in harm's way when Amber went ballistic. Michael was injured during that skirmish and had damage done to his hearing aid.  Amber alluded to wanting to punch out Mackenzie on the last reunion show. Look, I loathe Mackenzie, but Amber does not have a right to go around making threats. She is an abuser who was convicted of DV and spent time in prison. She is a ticking time-bomb. When Amber demands Heather the producer be fired, they give in.

Only when MTV's precious crew pout and cry about Farrah's behavior that suddenly a cast member's actions becomes an issue to the point of being fired.

I had missed a lot of posts from the previous pages due to life getting in the way (thanks @FairyDusted). I just now read this and I can't like it enough. 

@CofCinci excellent point about TPTB needing to fire Farrah due to the teacher on the set matter. My question is, why didn't they ever mention that to Farrah?