S06.E04: Liz's Story- LIVE CHAT

[Brooklynista]

Don’t help or anything Dr. Now. Geesh.

Edited February 1, 2018 by Brooklynista

[emma1420]

1 minute ago, aliya said:

Man, how much do you have to eat to gain 50 lbs in 2 months??  Is it mostly the immobility and not expending any calories or is it the food? I think I could eat a pizza every day for 60 days and not gain 50 lbs. Wow.

I figure at least 6-8,000 calories.  To put on 50lbs in 60 days, you need to consume an extra 3,000 or so calories a day, and given how large Liz is (even being bed bound) her BMR is probably 3-5,000 calories. 

[Threnners]

I don't doubt this has to be excruciatingly painful for her to stand after being bedbound this long.

[preciousperfect]

Is it really standing up if two people are holding you and you are leaning on a walker?

[hoosiermom]

1 minute ago, Kvv9862 said:

You'd have to eat A LOT to maintain that size right? How much is she eating to gain 50 pounds in 60 days? She's definitely one that thought weight loss surgery was like taking a magic pill 

Dr. Now says about 7,000 plus calories

[PeaceLily2]

Those Reebok's look too small.  Atrophied legs trying to hold up 500lbs isn't easy.   

[Aw my lahgs]

1 minute ago, ThereButFor said:

Pizza toppings aren’t all that awful, just as long as you don’t eat the crust.  But of course there was never any chance of that.  

My money is on her dunking them in ranch

[Kid]

I still don’t think she gets it.  Weight is down because she’s hospitalized. The minute he sends her home, surgery or not, she’ll be shoveling it in again.

[Guest]

What, WHAT?! She gets approved for weight loss surgery and barely stood up? For two seconds? 

[Shnoopy]

Just now, dreadfulLeigh said:

Wait a damn minute. How long ago did she have surgery? And she’s only just now attempting to walk stand!

After regaining 100 lbs. Eating crap and justifying it. I had spinach on my pizza. Lol.

[Aw my lahgs]

Is she related to Pauline?

[hoosiermom]

2 minutes ago, preciousperfect said:

Is it really standing up if two people are holding you and you are leaning on a walker?

Not in my opinion. But, the show must go on!

[Kvv9862]

1 minute ago, Giant Misfit said:

What, WHAT?! She gets approved for weight loss surgery and barely stood up? For two seconds? 

Compared to how horrendous some of the other patients are and the extremely low expectations I'd say it's "progress". 

[Lesia]

You know, there are people with traumatic brain injury that can't walk, people who have had strokes and can't walk, soldiers that have had legs blown off in battle that can't walk. And then there are these monstrosities that have done this TO THEMSELVES. Makes me sick. Every week. 

[dreadfulLeigh]

2 minutes ago, Giant Misfit said:

What, WHAT?! She gets approved for weight loss surgery and barely stood up? For two seconds? 

After what poor Rena had to go through to get approved, this seems all sorts of wrong. 

 

And no reaming out the enabling aunt and mother? What madness is this?

[hoosiermom]

I ate at Applebees today and brought home mashed sweet potatoes with pecans and maple drizzle for dessert. Can't wait!

Edited February 1, 2018 by hoosiermom

[debohinoh]

3 minutes ago, Kvv9862 said:

You'd have to eat A LOT to maintain that size right? How much is she eating to gain 50 pounds in 60 days? She's definitely one that thought weight loss surgery was like taking a magic pill 

I really like the episodes where Dr. Now announces how many calories they consumed to get such gains. I wish they included it each time. I wonder if he tells them off camera. Likewise, I wonder if any of them get off-camera advice about portions, the typical 1200-cal diet, and their "magic pill" expectations.

[aliya]

4 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

Don’t help or anything Dr. Now. Geesh.

Dr Now is 70 something. I'm 64 and wouldn't risk a torn rotator cuff, falling, or a sprain helping these people up. That's why the hospital has aides and PT people.

[Miracle Maxie]

4 minutes ago, preciousperfect said:

Is it really standing up if two people are holding you and you are leaning on a walker?

Given how atrophied her leg muscles must be and how much weight they have to attempt to support, I’ll give her a pass. 

[emma1420]

Yep, she still thinks f the surgery as the fix versus a tool.

[JudgeyMcJudgyPants]

Black pleather glove again.  I feel like there needs to be a story behind this.  Luke Skywalker robot hand?

[hoosiermom]

I wonder if he has ever lost a "TV" patient and they just didn't show it?

[debohinoh]

2 minutes ago, dreadfulLeigh said:

6 minutes ago, Giant Misfit said:

What, WHAT?! She gets approved for weight loss surgery and barely stood up? For two seconds? 

After what poor Rena had to go through to get approved, this seems all sorts of wrong. 

 

And no reaming out the enabling aunt and mother? What madness is this?

 

I've noticed this inconsistency periodically.

[PeaceLily2]

I doubt we will see any walking tonight.  

[Ellie Godfrey]

Just now, hoosiermom said:

I wonder if he has ever lost a "TV" patient and they just didn't show it?

I was just wondering the exact same thing. There must be some that don't make it.

[navine]

1 minute ago, hoosiermom said:

I wonder if he has ever lost a "TV" patient and they just didn't show it?

I have wondered the same thing ------ I will bet the answer is "yes".

[dreadfulLeigh]

1 minute ago, hoosiermom said:

I wonder if he has ever lost a "TV" patient and they just didn't show it?

I was just wondering this. Would the air it? Seems like a lot good warning 

[hoosiermom]

Walking? Hahahahahah

[PeaceLily2]

721 to 443.  She should be able to take a step or two.  

[Armchair Critic]

The people on this show must sign a pile of papers so Dr Now doesn't get sued if he screws up and also so they won't blab about it

[CalpurniaF]

She seems like a very sad person.

[Maggienolia]

It seems like there is at least one who died after the fact (maybe a year or more) back in the earlier seasons. So it wasn't shown because it didn't happen as part of the filming but it was mentioned in a follow-up or something that the patient eventually lost the battle to get their weight under control.

[dreadfulLeigh]

Dr Now: Don’t eat too much, you can damage your stomach. 

Liz, 2 weeks later: Busts apart her stomach.

[rlc]

“Last time I didn’t do as well as I thought”???? She gained 50 lbs. WTH?

Edited February 1, 2018 by rlc

[Ellie Godfrey]

I'd like to see some follow-ups: Penny, Pauline, AW! ma leg James, the Assanti bros, Chay (or whatever her name is this week).

[hoosiermom]

A liquid diet should be easy to follow. Nothing much to make really.

[JudgeyMcJudgyPants]

She just looks like she is giving up.

[Caoimhe]

1 minute ago, Maggienolia said:

It seems like there is at least one who died after the fact (maybe a year or more) back in the earlier seasons. So it wasn't shown because it didn't happen as part of the filming but it was mentioned in a follow-up or something that the patient eventually lost the battle to get their weight under control.

I think that was Henry, season 2 maybe?  He was actually a really nice guy and successful at controlling his eating too.

[PeaceLily2]

I'll say it again.....lots of commerical's tonight.

[navine]

The commercials are taking up more time than the actual show!

[Ellie Godfrey]

2 minutes ago, CalpurniaF said:

She seems like a very sad person.

She needs a different kind of sausage, right Mrs. Judgey?

[Maggienolia]

1 minute ago, Godfrey said:

I'd like to see some follow-ups: Penny, Pauline, AW! ma leg James, the Assanti bros, Chay (or whatever her name is this week).

I'd like to see a follow-up webpage to track where they are now. Still on track or still a train wreck or what. I don't EVER want to see the Assanti brothers again. Nope. Three episodes was MORE than enough of that crazy. But an online, non-video update would be interesting. Plus, interesting to see a more global comparison of how they're all doing over time. 

[dreadfulLeigh]

It really bothers me the amount of resources these morbidly obese people use. Now, I’m not advocating letting them rot, but, damn, these self-inflicted handicaps/incapacitated fuckers irk me. 

[JudgeyMcJudgyPants]

1 minute ago, Godfrey said:

I'd like to see some follow-ups: Penny, Pauline, AW! ma leg James, the Assanti bros, Chay (or whatever her name is this week).

I wouldn’t mind a follow up on Justin but I couldn’t care less about Steven.  The only thing I might want to hear about him is his timely death from the fall off a golf cart.

[Armchair Critic]

She needs to take responsibility for herself, she can't keep depending on her poor mother and aunt for her healthy eating

[JudgeyMcJudgyPants]

1 minute ago, Godfrey said:

She needs a different kind of sausage, right Mrs. Judgey?

Heeeeeeyyyyy!

[PeaceLily2]

She seems drugged.

[JudgeyMcJudgyPants]

“I’ll be back with some jiffy...oh I mean in a jiffy.”

[sainte-chapelle]

Good Lord I am late to the party, desperately trying to catch up!

[PeaceLily2]

Mom has the purse hanging off the handle of the walker.