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I mean, I don't want her in a suit so it's not the "never" in this instance that bothers me, but Marc saying that Felicity specifically would make the notion of superheroics "silly." Why? In this show

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And then someone tells him that what he did was okay because of reasons, or that he can't keep feeling guilty, he just has to move forward. Like, no, just...go ahead and feel really guilty for awhile?

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Starfish35

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7 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Not really, No Tomorrow is drawing 0.3 in the Demo.  Anything, even Lot's 0.6 or 0.5 in the Spring would be an improvement

While that's true, they still chose to use the slot behind their biggest show for LoT, rather than for Riverdale.  

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BkWurm1

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6 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Not really, No Tomorrow is drawing 0.3 in the Demo.  Anything, even Lot's 0.6 or 0.5 in the Spring would be an improvement

No, I meant they are giving LoT the most support it can have by moving it behind the best rated show.  I actually think No Tomorrow is a pretty good show but I'd be surprised if it gets renewed.  And on the CW that's saying a lot.  

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Just now, Starfish35 said:

While that's true, they still chose to use the slot behind their biggest show for LoT, rather than for Riverdale.  

Oops, or what STARFISH35 said.    

With Riverdale, they must think it will be a draw on its own. 

2 minutes ago, lemotomato said:

With that long of a hiatus, are they going to skip the 2-3 weeks they take off after February sweeps? 

I wonder how much of their audience they expect to return for 5B after such a long break.

Expectations vs Reality are two different things.  

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Morrigan2575

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3 minutes ago, Starfish35 said:

While that's true, they still chose to use the slot behind their biggest show for LoT, rather than for Riverdale.  

Except Flash has yet to prove that it can launch a show.  It has routinely proven that there's no real carry over, like with i-Zombie or No Tomorrow.  SPN actually does really well with whatever show it's paired with, although it's never been in a lead off spot.  

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Velocity23

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4 minutes ago, looptab said:

I wonder whose life will be on the balance at the end of 509.

The trolling promo might go to the Flash during this hiatus.

 

I think how many people come back after hiatus will depend on how 5x09 finishes the year.

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BkWurm1

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1 minute ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Except Flash has yet to prove that it can launch a show.  It has routinely proven that there's no real carry over, like with i-Zombie or No Tomorrow.  

True but LoT has the advantage there since it's in the same universe.  I can imagine some sticking around since it's on.  

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5 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said:

True but LoT has the advantage there since it's in the same universe.  I can imagine some sticking around since it's on.  

I agree, LoT being a DC show will probably end up being the best pairing with Flash.  Should have a lot more retention

Arrow isn't coming back until 2/1?  That's really late although Sweeps is pretty late to. Doesn't start until 2/9, which actually might be good for Arrow.  

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Schedule at Deadline

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Here is the CW’s midseason schedule with premiere dates:

MONDAY

8-9 PM – SUPERGIRL

9-10 PM – JANE THE VIRGIN

TUESDAY
(Beginning January 24)

8-9 PM – THE FLASH

9-10 PM – DC’S LEGENDS OF TOMORROW (New Time Period)

WEDNESDAY
(Beginning February 1)

8-9 PM – ARROW

9-10 PM – THE 100 (Season Premiere)

THURSDAY
(Beginning January 26)

8-9 PM – SUPERNATURAL (New Time Period)

9-10 PM – RIVERDALE (Series Premiere)

FRIDAY
(Beginning February 10)

8-9 PM – THE VAMPIRE DIARIES

9-10 PM – REIGN (Season Premiere)

FRIDAY
(Beginning March 17)

8-9 PM – THE ORIGINALS (Season Premiere)

9-10 PM – REIGN

TUESDAY, APRIL 4

8-9 PM – IZOMBIE (Season Premiere)

9- 10 PM – IZOMBIE (New Episode)

TUESDAY
(Beginning April 11)

8-9 PM – THE FLASH

9-10 PM – IZOMBIE (Regular Time Period)

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15 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Except Flash has yet to prove that it can launch a show.  It has routinely proven that there's no real carry over, like with i-Zombie or No Tomorrow.  SPN actually does really well with whatever show it's paired with, although it's never been in a lead off spot.  

I don't think has been in lead off spot because it's content is not really suitable for 8PM.

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5 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

I'm shocked they moved SPN to 8PM, it's not an 8PM show.

I legit don't understand this move. It's a violent, dark, bloody, gory, at times legitimately frightening show. It's not comic -book violence either. It's shootings, beheadings, torture, etc, controversial takes on religion, etc. It's pretty graphic. It's an adult show, arguably the most "adult" on the CW minus graphic sex scenes. 

I don't understand how the network can have it air at 8PM without changing it in some fundamental way, without watering it down.  WTF, CW???

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Morrigan2575

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2 minutes ago, Velocity23 said:

Hmmm i bet Frequency has a 2 hour finale before Arrow and the 100 return. They just want to burn it off.

Probably. CW is kind in trouble.  The only new shows they can launch are DC shows and even those are down.  

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catrox14

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13 minutes ago, Sakura12 said:

I don't understand the move either, especially when Riverdale sounds like a Dawson's Creek remake. Why does that have air at 9pm?

I was just saying in the SPN thread that maybe they think the portion of the SPN audience that are mostly female teens will stick around maybe for Cole Sprouse or something?  I don't like this move for SPN at all.

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I was just saying in the SPN thread that maybe they think the portion of the SPN audience that are mostly female teens will stick around maybe for Cole Sprouse or something?  I don't like this move for SPN at all.

It might have to do with This is Us on tuesday at 9 PM. LOT doesnt skew too female.

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Morrigan2575

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3 minutes ago, Velocity23 said:

Well this is CBS studios trying their hand at a comic adaptation.

That actually sounds pretty good; it would be a good pairing with SPN next season.  Since it's CBS and not WB/Berlanti they could probably play it more straight like SPN instead of a comic book show like Flash/LoT etc

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kismet

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I have no idea what the plan the CW has. But I'm pissed that they moved LoT. That is my "This is Us" slot. But perhaps that is why they didn't put a new show against it. I think even their reruns would kill a CW show.

And what is up with IZombie? It will run back to back, while Flash takes another hiatus in April? Just give it its' own proper slot & run.

Good Luck CW, I think their scheduling is too crazy for the Spring. I know they don't necessarily care about ratings... but don't they care about their audience. All these changes and breaks are going to lose people.

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14 minutes ago, Morrigan2575 said:

Um iZombie has a one week double up while Flash is on a break. Then it takes over LoTs slot the following week.

Oh ok thanks. The TVline article made it seem longer. Honestly, with all the breaks the CW takes I just assumed the Flash was getting a sustained break.

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BkWurm1

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9 hours ago, catrox14 said:

I legit don't understand this move. It's a violent, dark, bloody, gory, at times legitimately frightening show. It's not comic -book violence either. It's shootings, beheadings, torture, etc, controversial takes on religion, etc. It's pretty graphic. It's an adult show, arguably the most "adult" on the CW minus graphic sex scenes. 

I don't understand how the network can have it air at 8PM without changing it in some fundamental way, without watering it down.  WTF, CW???

Isn't the distinction between the first hour of programming and the second hour of programming really more of a suggestion than a rule?  I mean none of it is late night television and on the big boy network channels, it's the third slot of the night that is save for the more violent shows, not the second so the CW already broke tradition.  

Plus after being on the air for 11 years, I'm guessing the CW doesn't think they have to worry about offending new audiences.  

9 hours ago, Sakura12 said:

I don't understand the move either, especially when Riverdale sounds like a Dawson's Creek remake. Why does that have air at 9pm?

Wasn't there supposed to be a supernatural/mystery twist to this version of Riverdale?  Still don't get why they wouldn't have flipped it so the Riverdale leads and then Supernatural comes on later.  Maybe Riverdale has more sex?  Networks are more squeamish about sex than violence.    

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Starfish35

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It is a bit strange how they're doing it, but yes, it is the midseason finale.  My impression is that most of the episode has nothing to do with the crossover.  Barry and Cisco will just show up in the final moments of the episode to ask for her help, and then that will lead into the three-night main crossover.

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I don't think they've erased Sara being bi, as least so far as that line from Mick is concerned. Look at it from his perspective. In the year or so he has known Sara, he has seen her show interest in that woman in the bar in the 70s, the nurse in the 50s, the queen of France whenever that was. As far as he's seen she likes women. He didn't see her kiss Snart nor does he know about her past with Oliver. 

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The reason Mick's dialogue made me raise my eyebrows is, it's the first time Sara's sexuality is really talked about and it's to imply lesbian and not the bisexual that she had been portrayed.

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Morrigan2575

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Aww, I hope SPN holds.

It's always fascinating how ratings/demos works.  SPN did better in 18-34, 18-49 and tied in 25-54, yet LoT had more viewers.  I guess they're from the 12-17 demo?  Assuming SPN doesn't adjust down to a 0.6 in the 18-49 demo

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