SuperNormal: Public Appearances, Tweets, Media And Other Social Media Of The SPN Cast

[trxr4kids]

That was great @gonzosgirrl, thanks for taking the time to do that.

[MysteryGuest]

I'm surprised no one asked Jensen to show his tattoo.  I figured that would have been one of the first questions.

[Casseiopeia]

Edited October 30, 2017 by Casseiopeia
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[Casseiopeia]

28 minutes ago, Casseiopeia said:

 

so the video and audio are out of sync

[Pondlass1]

13 hours ago, MysteryGuest said:

I'm surprised no one asked Jensen to show his tattoo.  I figured that would have been one of the first questions.

Me too. It seems odd?

[Bobcatkitten]

Not sure I would have gone so far as to ask him to disrobe and show the tattoo but I'm shocked there wasn't something along the lines of "what made you decide to get your first tattoo at this time and how long did it take/did it hurt?" Then the audience could have yelled for him to show it.

[Casseiopeia]

This is almost the entire panel

 

[gonzosgirrl]

3 hours ago, Casseiopeia said:

This is almost the entire panel

 

 

This poster has the afternoon panel up now as well! It's in three parts.

[Goldmoon]

I really, really dislike tattoos, no matter what the design or who is wearing it.  Having said that, I think JA had one below his right shoulder in the back during an early ep of season one.  Someone who re-watches should look for it and confirm.  He was pulling his shirt on, and it was just a glimpse, but it was there.

[catrox14]

12 minutes ago, Goldmoon said:

I really, really dislike tattoos, no matter what the design or who is wearing it.  Having said that, I think JA had one below his right shoulder in the back during an early ep of season one.  Someone who re-watches should look for it and confirm.  He was pulling his shirt on, and it was just a glimpse, but it was there.

Wasn't there a point in time that Dean had a tattoo but they were a pain to keep painting on him daily so they did away with it? Maybe that's what you saw?

[MysteryGuest]

I don't remember ever seeing a tattoo on Dean or Jensen, prior to this new one.  With the exception of the anti-possession one both he and Sam have, of course.  I've seen old pictures of some temporary tattoos both he and Danneel got at some festival they went to years ago, but that's about it.  I'd be curious to know what episode you think you saw the glimpse of the tattoo, if you can remember.  How many scenes were there of Jensen's back in season 1?  Shifter episode...what else?  Forcing us to go back and search through all of the shirtless Dean scenes from 12 seasons would be just...awful, yeah, that's the word I was looking for.

[catrox14]

5 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said:

I don't remember ever seeing a tattoo on Dean or Jensen, prior to this new one.  With the exception of the anti-possession one both he and Sam have, of course.  I've seen old pictures of some temporary tattoos both he and Danneel got at some festival they went to years ago, but that's about it.  I'd be curious to know what episode you think you saw the glimpse of the tattoo, if you can remember.  How many scenes were there of Jensen's back in season 1?  Shifter episode...what else?  Forcing us to go back and search through all of the shirtless Dean scenes from 12 seasons would be just...awful, yeah, that's the word I was looking for.

I'm willing to do the research....

[Casseiopeia]

The twins are so big now!

[catrox14]

[gonzosgirrl]

They all have such beautiful kids. Arrow and Zepp really are mini-mes of their mom and dad.

I wonder if Neil Degrasse Tyson will respond to Misha's tweet, lol.

[Casseiopeia]

[nightwing877]

4 hours ago, Casseiopeia said:

The twins are so big now!

WOW, they certainly grew. Time flies.

[DittyDotDot]

11 hours ago, catrox14 said:

That is so adorable! 

[Pondlass1]

Was there a joke in bad taste or something at  Js panel in New Orleans?  Twitter is twittering about something?

[Casseiopeia]

15 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

Was there a joke in bad taste or something at  Js panel in New Orleans?  Twitter is twittering about something?

Yes there is a firestorm all over the internet about a joke that the J's told.  A fan asked them for their best pick up line.  They proceeded to tell their worst pick up line.  Jared whispered his joke to Jensen the crowd begged for him to tell it so he did.  "Does this rag smell like chloroform" a Bill Cosby reference (also a joke that has been around forever)  and  the crowd laughed hysterically.  Now a group of "fans" are taking it out of context and trying to get them fired.  I would say it's much ado about nothing but there is a concerted movement at the moment to go after them as contributing to the rape culture by joking about it.

[gonzosgirrl]

It was so clearly a harmless joke on Jared's part, and Jensen's Cosby comment even more so. People are going to feel how they feel, but I'm honestly baffled at the reaction to this - both these guys have shown themselves to be decent, respectful men. This is a witch-hunt mentality, IMO - at least some of these people are looking for a reason to drag them. It's funny how none of the inappropriate 'jokes' and gestures from the women guest at the con(s) cause such a stir.

[Casseiopeia]

8 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

It was so clearly a harmless joke on Jared's part, and Jensen's Cosby comment even more so. People are going to feel how they feel, but I'm honestly baffled at the reaction to this - both these guys have shown themselves to be decent, respectful men. This is a witch-hunt mentality, IMO - at least some of these people are looking for a reason to drag them. It's funny how none of the inappropriate 'jokes' and gestures from the women guest at the con(s) cause such a stir.

"It's funny how none of the inappropriate 'jokes' and gestures from the women guest at the con(s) cause such a stir."

I was thinking the same thing.  

[MysteryGuest]

I think we're going to be seeing much more of this, going forward.  The "Me Too" campaign has been great in that it's allowed people to share their stories and to realize that they are not alone, but as with anything else, it's going to have a downside.  People like Harvey Weinstein, and countless others who have used their positions of power to prey on others deserve to be taken down.  But if we start calling anyone out who's ever made an inappropriate comment or advance, eventually there will be no one left.  The genuine offenders need to be punished, and people in general need to be better educated as to what constitutes inappropriate behavior.  We all need to be more conscious of what we say and do.  

But I know for a fact that when I'm with friends or family, and we're just joking around, inappropriate things are said all the time.  Sometimes, the more inappropriate the better, depending on the situation.  I think it's partly human nature to joke about things that are a bit taboo.  While the abhorrent acts of rape and harassment need to be eliminated, I'm not sure we will ever be able to completely stop comments from being made.  The reality is that any comment can act as a trigger for someone.  Should Jared have told the audience what he'd whispered to Jensen, probably not, but I don't for a second think it means we need to paint him with the same brush as the Weinsteins of the world.  Starting some campaign to get them fired is absolutely ludicrous, IMO.

[Aeryn13]

That`s SJW culture going overboard. I`m honestly thankful that this isn`t happening where I live because I`m past the point of annoyance now.

I`m someone who is critical of Jared when it comes to his habit of naming names and showing pictures of service workers in passive-aggressive tweets but IMO he did nothing wrong here. It was a freaking joke. Have people never made jokes in bad taste before? Because I know I have. At work we can be quite raunchy on breaks. 

And yes, the female guests have said and done things in bad taste as well. It`s not "empowered" then just because of the gender.  

[catrox14]

I wish J2 had listened to their first instincts which was to NOT tell the joke.

IMO this whole thing is out of context and is being used to make J2 look a lot worse than what actually went down.

 If you watch the video, the congoer didn't just ask for their best pickup lines in an innocent way,  she framed it around them competing for her based on their pick up lines.

Jared: "I like the outfit " (she was dressed as Daphne from Scooby Doo
Person: "Hi,  I'm Daphne from Scooby Doo.  I hear that I could potentially be working a case with you and that one of you is going to hit on me. So I'd just like to get it out of the way now. So we're gonna have a little competition and I will agree to go on a date with whichever brother has the best pick up line. So take your best shot and let the best man win". Crowd cheers and whoops. J2 IMO were not thrilled with this little bit. 

I thought it was interesting that Jensen answered it with "I mean at this point, I've been married so...it would be "Can we just get this over with because I can't concentrate".  MO, that was him trying to just end the thing.

Jared said at this point all my pick up lines, like my jokes are really offensive. Jared kept joking secretly to Jensen and they were both "No, you can't say that".  The crowd egged him on. "Daphne" said, "I'm sure everyone here is over 18".  So IMO Jared was trying to please the audience and told the ancient chloroform joke, Jensen follows it with the Cosby joke which IMO was complete dig at Cosby. Then Jensen just said, 'Okay, moving right along".

That said, J2 shouldn't have told it but IMO it's nothing they deserve to be fired for and certainly not deserving of the flogging they are getting on SM who are taking IMO the whole thing out of context.

[Diane]

11 minutes ago, Aeryn13 said:

That`s SJW culture going overboard. I`m honestly thankful that this isn`t happening where I live because I`m past the point of annoyance now.

I`m someone who is critical of Jared when it comes to his habit of naming names and showing pictures of service workers in passive-aggressive tweets but IMO he did nothing wrong here. It was a freaking joke. Have people never made jokes in bad taste before? Because I know I have. At work we can be quite raunchy on breaks. 

And yes, the female guests have said and done things in bad taste as well. It`s not "empowered" then just because of the gender.  

My biggest issue is it distracts from the real problem.  The problem isn't off color jokes. We have all told them, men and women alike. Being a sexual assault survivor, it's insulting that these kind of jokes are put in the same category. 

[gonzosgirrl]

I honestly hope neither of them, nor anyone in an official capacity, addresses it and gives it more weight than it deserves. It was a dumb joke. IMO it's the same as the 'outrage' over Jensen and Misha's poking fun at him 'stalking' Jensen in the YANA campaign things. People going out of their way to be offended (at best) and at worst, just taking the opportunity to hate on the actors. I am honestly sorry for anyone truly upset by the jokes, but I don't believe those are the majority who are stirring up this online tempest in a teapot.

 

ETA: Exactly, @Diane. I literally don't know one woman who couldn't honestly answer 'Me too', from somewhere along the spectrum of sexual harassment to sexual assault, but as one who is also a survivor, I think including things such as this in the conversation does a disservice to the cause. Just about every comedian working has done some kind of groan-worthy Cosby joke. I am the farthest thing from a Jared apologist, but IMO he didn't do anything wrong here.

Edited November 1, 2017 by gonzosgirrl

[Diane]

9 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

I honestly hope neither of them, nor anyone in an official capacity, addresses it and gives it more weight than it deserves. It was a dumb joke. IMO it's the same as the 'outrage' over Jensen and Misha's poking fun at him 'stalking' Jensen in the YANA campaign things. People going out of their way to be offended (at best) and at worst, just taking the opportunity to hate on the actors. I am honestly sorry for anyone truly upset by the jokes, but I don't believe those are the majority who are stirring up this online tempest in a teapot.

 

ETA: Exactly, @Diane. I literally don't know one woman who couldn't honestly answer 'Me too', from somewhere along the spectrum of sexual harassment to sexual assault, but as one who is also a survivor, I think including things such as this in the conversation does a disservice to the cause. Just about every comedian working has done some kind of groan-worthy Cosby joke. I am the farthest thing from a Jared apologist, but IMO he didn't do anything wrong here.

I Agree with everything you said!

Edited November 1, 2017 by Diane

[Aeryn13]

Yes, to conflate a joke like this with actual sexual harassment going on everyday, that is what I find in very poor taste. This joke and the drunk guy who once grabbed me when I was a pre-teen are not even in the same stratosphere. And that was still a super-harmless incident compared to many others.  

[MysteryGuest]

That's the whole problem.  Making a big deal out of incidents like this will actually work to minimize the real issues in the eyes of the public.  Every day someone else is being called out for abuses, and we need to focus on the genuine perpetrators.  People have gotten away with this behavior far too long, and now that we have people's attention, we need to use it for more than being PC Police.

[Wayward Son]

Another sad fact is the fact that some fans are simply using this as an excuse to promote their view of the actors. For instance I've seen some of those strongly defending J2 completely attack Misha when he has made similarly inappropriate remarks in the past and likewise I've seen some of those attacking J2 at the moment completely ignore comments made by other cast members they like. The fact that some fans are using this as a part of some fandom war is sickening IMO.

[MysteryGuest]

2 minutes ago, Wayward Son said:

Another sad fact is the fact that some fans are simply using this as an excuse to promote their view of the actors. For instance I've seen some of those strongly defending J2 completely attack Misha when he has made similarly inappropriate remarks in the past and likewise I've seen some of those attacking J2 at the moment completely ignore comments made by other cast members they like. The fact that some fans are using this as a part of some fandom war is sickening IMO.

I keep trying to convince myself that the loudest members of these groups are all the 12 to 16 year olds, but sadly, I'm not sure that's the case.  Who did people like this harass before social media?  Were they all just bullies in school?  I don't get that mentality at all.  And now that we have a President who is the poster child for cyber bullying, I don't imagine the trend will go away anytime soon.  Fun times...

[Diane]

1 minute ago, MysteryGuest said:

I keep trying to convince myself that the loudest members of these groups are all the 12 to 16 year olds, but sadly, I'm not sure that's the case.  Who did people like this harass before social media?  Were they all just bullies in school?  I don't get that mentality at all.  And now that we have a President who is the poster child for cyber bullying, I don't imagine the trend will go away anytime soon.  Fun times...

Yeah, not so much.

[Wayward Son]

Just now, MysteryGuest said:

I keep trying to convince myself that the loudest members of these groups are all the 12 to 16 year olds, but sadly, I'm not sure that's the case.  Who did people like this harass before social media?  Were they all just bullies in school?  I don't get that mentality at all.  And now that we have a President who is the poster child for cyber bullying, I don't imagine the trend will go away anytime soon.  Fun times...

Sadly, it isn't the case! I know of several prolific Misha haters that are women in their forties and fifties with grown children of their own. I haven't really encountered well known J2 haters so I can't say much about the age of their haters. 

[MysteryGuest]

1 minute ago, Wayward Son said:

Sadly, it isn't the case! I know of several prolific Misha haters that are women in their forties and fifties with grown children of their own. I haven't really encountered well known J2 haters so I can't say much about the age of their haters. 

While this makes me sad, it doesn't really surprise me.  Bullies learn their behavior from someone, and usually it's the parent.

[Wayward Son]

Just now, MysteryGuest said:

While this makes me sad, it doesn't really surprise me.  Bullies learn their behavior from someone, and usually it's the parent.

Sorry, I meant that the Misha haters I know of are the parent. I've no idea what their children are like. 

[MysteryGuest]

Just now, Wayward Son said:

Sorry, I meant that the Misha haters I know of are the parent. I've no idea what their children are like. 

No, I understood what you were saying.  I just meant that while I'm looking to blame the 13 year olds, it's obvious that they've learned their behavior from someone, and that's the parents, just like the people you reference as the Misha bashers.  I always hope that behavior like this is just a sign of an immature child, but the reality is that maturity and chronological age have nothing in common.

[bethy]

41 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said:

I keep trying to convince myself that the loudest members of these groups are all the 12 to 16 year olds, but sadly, I'm not sure that's the case.  Who did people like this harass before social media?  Were they all just bullies in school?  I don't get that mentality at all.  And now that we have a President who is the poster child for cyber bullying, I don't imagine the trend will go away anytime soon.  Fun times...

A lot of these people wouldn't be harassing others without social media. They do it now because they're cowards and because they don't have to say these things to someone's face. They'd likely be complaining to their very small group of bitter acquaintances and the feeding frenzy would be extremely limited. But now they've found their voices in an environment with little to no accountability where the feel like they are "empowered" to make their petty grievances social justice issues. 

Sometimes I wish the Pulse would just happen already. :)

39 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said:

No, I understood what you were saying.  I just meant that while I'm looking to blame the 13 year olds, it's obvious that they've learned their behavior from someone, and that's the parents, just like the people you reference as the Misha bashers.  I always hope that behavior like this is just a sign of an immature child, but the reality is that maturity and chronological age have nothing in common.

Honestly I think a lot of kids are learning this behavior from their peers. It's Lord of the Flies! Just on Tumblr!

[FlickChick]

1 hour ago, bethy said:

A lot of these people wouldn't be harassing others without social media. They do it now because they're cowards and because they don't have to say these things to someone's face. They'd likely be complaining to their very small group of bitter acquaintances and the feeding frenzy would be extremely limited. But now they've found their voices in an environment with little to no accountability where the feel like they are "empowered" to make their petty grievances social justice issues. 

Sometimes I wish the Pulse would just happen already. :)

Honestly I think a lot of kids are learning this behavior from their peers. It's Lord of the Flies! Just on Tumblr!

This times 1000! Before social media, people (young and older) were held responsible for what they said that was nasty and/or bullying to another. Now they hide behind the veil of invisibility and post whatever they want to whomever they want. It's sad. I really wish social media would go away, but I know it won't. However, don't wish for the Pulse, because all our money would disappear too. :(

[auntvi]

2 hours ago, MysteryGuest said:

Who did people like this harass before social media?  Were they all just bullies in school?  

Before social media they were "mean girls"! I remember hearing some pretty nasty things in high school.

 

2 hours ago, Wayward Son said:

I haven't really encountered well known J2 haters so I can't say much about the age of their haters. 

I'm familiar with a couple loud J2 haters - and they're old enough to know better. It would be really sad if J2 suffered repercussions from this.

[catrox14]

IMO SM doesn't make bullies. I have a LOT of positive SM interaction with fandom in sports and TV. Fandom bullies have existed as long as fandom has existed be it entertainment or sports or anything else.  They existed on forums and blogs and in the comments sections before Twitter and Facebook became more important to showrunners as a tool to gauge audience feedback. IMO SM only makes the interactions faster to accomplish but the mindset has to be there to begin with. 

[Bessie]

I’m going way against the grain, here, and saying they should be called out. 

I don’t think they should suffer any major consequences or anything, but “I was just joking” doesn’t work for me.

It’s a get out of jail free card, for lots of people for lots of bad stuff. I’m not a fan of “it was just a joke.”

[MysteryGuest]

1 minute ago, Bessie said:

I’m going way against the grain, here, and saying they should be called out. 

I don’t think they should suffer any major consequences or anything, but “I was just joking” doesn’t work for me.

It’s a get out of jail free card, for lots of people for lots of bad stuff. I’m not a fan of “it was just a joke.”

Had Jared actually used that line on someone and then played it off as a joke, I'd be inclined to agree with you.  But the context of what was said, at least to me, shows that it truly was a joke.  They were deliberately trying to come up with bad pick up lines, and they certainly managed to do that.  I think words need to be taken in context, and in so many instances, that's what's lacking.  Just my opinion.

8 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

IMO SM doesn't make bullies. I have a LOT of positive SM interaction with fandom in sports and TV. Fandom bullies have existed as long as fandom has existed be it entertainment or sports or anything else.  They existed on forums and blogs and in the comments sections before Twitter and Facebook became more important to showrunners as a tool to gauge audience feedback. IMO SM only makes the interactions faster to accomplish but the mindset has to be there to begin with. 

I agree that social media doesn't create the bullies, but it definitely encourages them, I think.  Go to any news article and the comments section is like a feeding frenzy of people saying all sorts of outrageous things.  It's everywhere, not just on fan sites.  I just wonder what these people did before anonymously typing something on a keyboard became a thing.  Were they actually taking the time to write nasty letters to the editors?  I wonder.

[gonzosgirrl]

3 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said:

Had Jared actually used that line on someone and then played it off as a joke, I'd be inclined to agree with you.  But the context of what was said, at least to me, shows that it truly was a joke.  They were deliberately trying to come up with bad pick up lines, and they certainly managed to do that.  I think words need to be taken in context, and in so many instances, that's what's lacking.  Just my opinion.

This + infinity. There are all kinds of inappropriate remarks made about them, suggestive photo op requests, all kinds of off-colour humor on stage (by every single one of the con guests)  etc - and this is what some folks choose to focus on? It's hypocritical at best.

[catrox14]

3 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said:

Had Jared actually used that line on someone and then played it off as a joke, I'd be inclined to agree with you.  But the context of what was said, at least to me, shows that it truly was a joke.  They were deliberately trying to come up with bad pick up lines, and they certainly managed to do that.  I think words need to be taken in context, and in so many instances, that's what's lacking.  Just my opinion.

I agree that social media doesn't create the bullies, but it definitely encourages them, I think.  Go to any news article and the comments section is like a feeding frenzy of people saying all sorts of outrageous things.  It's everywhere, not just on fan sites.  I just wonder what these people did before anonymously typing something on a keyboard became a thing.  Were they actually taking the time to write nasty letters to the editors?  I wonder.

I think it has increased the interaction on SM and comments sections but again, not everything that shows up in comments, on Twitter, Tumblr, or Facebook is nasty nor even negative in all cases. I find a lot more positive interactions than negative and I'm on SM more than I should be that's for sure.

[MysteryGuest]

9 minutes ago, catrox14 said:

I think it has increased the interaction on SM and comments sections but again, not everything that shows up in comments, on Twitter, Tumblr, or Facebook is nasty nor even negative in all cases. I find a lot more positive interactions than negative and I'm on SM more than I should be that's for sure.

I'm sure the positive outweighs the negative.  It's just that some of the negative is so offensive it can't help but overshadow everything else.  But I do agree that this is a minority of people, just a very vocal minority.

 

14 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

This + infinity. There are all kinds of inappropriate remarks made about them, suggestive photo op requests, all kinds of off-colour humor on stage (by every single one of the con guests)  etc - and this is what some folks choose to focus on? It's hypocritical at best.

I'd be curious to know what percentage of these outraged fans are the same fans who say the worst things about the cast members and their families?  I know that Jensen was ragged on a bit for the post he made in support of "Me Too", so there really is no pleasing everyone.

[gonzosgirrl]

The bottom line for me in this case is, both Jared and Jensen have more than earned the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their treatment of and attitude towards the women in their lives, and the largely female fandom who they always treat with respect, regardless of what is coming back at them. Even if I thought the joke was inappropriate (I don't), I would give them a pass given the context and who they have shown themselves to be.

[auntvi]

48 minutes ago, MysteryGuest said:

Had Jared actually used that line on someone and then played it off as a joke, I'd be inclined to agree with you.  But the context of what was said, at least to me, shows that it truly was a joke.  They were deliberately trying to come up with bad pick up lines, and they certainly managed to do that.  I think words need to be taken in context, and in so many instances, that's what's lacking.  Just my opinion.

I agree. I usually don't like hearing dirty jokes and get squicked out easily, but I thought this joke was funny and definitely not offensive.

43 minutes ago, gonzosgirrl said:

This + infinity. There are all kinds of inappropriate remarks made about them, suggestive photo op requests, all kinds of off-colour humor on stage (by every single one of the con guests)  etc - and this is what some folks choose to focus on? It's hypocritical at best.

Exactly.

[Pondlass1]

3 hours ago, auntvi said:

all kinds of off-colour humor on stage (by every single one of the con guests)

Honestly I thought this joke (which I've heard at least 2 times before on TV) was pretty mild compared to Kim and Brianna antics, and sometimes Misha.  The boys are very well behaved compared to others on the SPN stage.

What are they like in the refuge of their trailers?  Bad, bad boys I'd say.

Edited November 2, 2017 by Pondlass1

[MysteryGuest]

5 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

What are they like in the refuge of their trailers?  Bad, bad boys I'd say.

I'm sure if we could eavesdrop, we'd hear things that would be both amusing and offensive to some.  It's pretty obvious from the outtakes and some of their stories that they are pretty merciless with each other when it comes to teasing.  I wonder if anyone has ever been offended to be on the receiving end of some of their pranks?  I would assume they don't pull some of their worst on just anyone.  In fact, I think they reserve most of their tormenting for poor Misha, but I think he loves every minute of it.