Season 19 Live Feed Discussion

[Lady Calypso]

Oh, and NOW Paul wants to keep Christmas because she almost won. Of COURSE.

[vb68]

1 minute ago, Lady Calypso said:

RAMSES AND JOSH ARE UP? WHAT?

This has to be to backdoor Paul.  Right?  RIGHT?

[Wings]

2 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

Oh, feeds came back for a second to Jason/Paul.

RAMSES AND JOSH ARE UP? WHAT?

Fuck you, Jody.

Probably a back door plan for Paul.  Lame noms 

[Lady Calypso]

Just now, vb68 said:

This has to be to backdoor Paul.  Right?  RIGHT?

That's a dumb plan. Paul will NEVER go over these two.

[ByaNose]

2 minutes ago, peachmangosteen said:

Jessica laying on top of Cody in the HOH bed. Of course.

LMAO at Ramses/Josh noms. Wow. I have no words.

Are they pawns or is Paul the target?

[Wings]

Just now, Lady Calypso said:

That's a dumb plan. Paul will NEVER go over these two.

I think he might.  I think Christmas may want him out and she has influence.  

[missyb]

No game talk from Jess and cody yet. 

[Katesus7]

Not going to say I told y'all, but I told y'all.

Two cameras dedicated to Paul, two cameras dedicated to Jessica and Cody kissing and telling each other how awesome they are 

This sucks ass.

[ByaNose]

Oh god! Jody are in love. 2 minutes in & I'm gonna throw up.

[Wings]

Just now, Katesus7 said:

Not going to say I told y'all, but I told y'all.

Two cameras dedicated to Paul, two cameras dedicated to Jessica and Cody kissing and telling each other how awesome they are 

This sucks ass.

No shit

[Lady Calypso]

Just now, Katesus7 said:

Not going to say I told y'all, but I told y'all.

Two cameras dedicated to Paul, two cameras dedicated to Jessica and Cody kissing and telling each other how awesome they are 

This sucks ass.

I was really hoping Jessica would make a big move.

I can't possibly see how she gets Paul evicted against Ramses or Josh, if that's still the plan.

[nightowl1989]

Lol. This has got to be the dumbest move ever. I'm sure her target is Josh because he talked shit to her and she's still stuck on his bullshit from a week ago. I am so sad to see the pettiness win out over the chance to actually potentially enact some fucking entertaining and well needed change in this house. Fucking disappointed.

Edited July 22, 2017 by nightowl1989

[vb68]

Josh isn't around raging anywhere. That's odd.

Did he pull a Dom and take to his bed?

[nightowl1989]

3 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

I was really hoping Jessica would make a big move.

I can't possibly see how she gets Paul evicted against Ramses or Josh, if that's still the plan.

I HIGHLY doubt that is the plan. 

[Lady Calypso]

Paul literally called it his HOH to Jessica. I'm just...the sad thing is is that this is probably the best outcome we could have gotten, and it still sucks.

[nightowl1989]

I just don't understand the stupidity of these people. They deserve to be steamrolled by Paul, but I'm am so personally offended by the idea of that happening. I really really need someone to do something. Anything. This is the least I've liked this show ever and I've been watching since freaking BB5. It's so disappointing. 

[ByaNose]

2 minutes ago, Lady Calypso said:

Paul literally called it his HOH to Jessica. I'm just...the sad thing is is that this is probably the best outcome we could have gotten, and it still sucks.

I'm confused by Cody. More so then usual. When he was evicted & before returning he said he would work with Paul. Then during the Battle Back DR he said he wanted to go after Paul and get him out. So what is it?

[zibnchy]

I confess I'm not a good strategist. So tell me, who should Jess have put up? Assuming she wants to backdoor Paul, who should she have put up who could stay against Paul. Kevin? The dying princess? Bland Matt?

I just suck at strategy. I would totally be that player who just puts up people I hate. Of course, I hate Paul so I'd put him up.

There's one character trait that just makes me so very angry and that is smugness. Paul is so very smug. I actually would like to punch him (and I'm a pacifist - really).

[Artsda]

Well Josh can be a legit target considering how psychotic he is. Paul said he's off crying so he obviously started a fight again. Ramses is not a target for Jess, so there has to be a plan there.

Pretty sure the house still thought Megan's week didn't count and Paul's still safe. Hopefully Cody or Jess would get that clarified. 

Shocker Matt's wearing his orange Longhorns shirt.

LOL at Alex having to be fake nice to Jess.  She deserves to squirm.

Edited July 22, 2017 by Artsda

[Lady Calypso]

Just now, zibnchy said:

I confess I'm not a good strategist. So tell me, who should Jess have put up? Assuming she wants to backdoor Paul, who should she have put up who could stay against Paul. Kevin? The dying princess? Bland Matt?

Matt and Raven, then backdoor Paul. Even if the veto wasn't used, they'd get rid of a Paul minion, and Paul might leave against Raven. 

With Josh or Ramses against Paul, there's a much higher chance of Paul staying. Josh would 100% go against Paul. Ramses would 90% go against Paul. 

[nightowl1989]

3 minutes ago, zibnchy said:

I confess I'm not a good strategist. So tell me, who should Jess have put up? Assuming she wants to backdoor Paul, who should she have put up who could stay against Paul. Kevin? The dying princess? Bland Matt?

I just suck at strategy. I would totally be that player who just puts up people I hate. Of course, I hate Paul so I'd put him up.

There's one character trait that just makes me so very angry and that is smugness. Paul is so very smug. I actually would like to punch him (and I'm a pacifist - really).

She is pretty much safe until this hex is used and as a previous poster pointed up she and Cody have a couple of weeks to strategize getting Paul out. If that's what they wanted they should have freaking put him up directly. Even if they wanted to backdoor- the LEAST she could have done is put up a damn showmance! This move just guarantees more outsiders going home, because Paul's minions still have the numbers to vote whomever they want out.

Edited July 22, 2017 by nightowl1989

[vb68]

Josh again talking about the importance of his WORD.

He's done with people who disrespect him.

Just in case anyone was unclear on that.

[nightowl1989]

Y'all. I mean, I almost never post on here. But I am LIVID.

[Lady Calypso]

Heh. Raven went upstairs to HOH and didn't realize that Jessica locked it.

Christmas is whispering to Matt/Raven, asking if they would be willing to keep Josh over Ramses.

[Brian Cronin]

I certainly don't like the nominations, but honestly, I can see it for Jess. Josh is a number against her and he hates her and Cody. Plus, she's safe for at least another week after this one, so I can see wanting to get in good with the majority during that time. Just like how Paul's multiple weeks of safety allowed him to consolidate power.

[missyb]

Josh talking to the cameras in Have Not room. Says something about Mark doing an about face as soon as Cody walked in the room. Still bad blood with Cody. 

I get the feeling that Josh believes Paul will work to keep Josh. 

And now, Xmas asking Matt and Raven what they think about keeping Josh. Of course they are non committal. Matt says lets revisit after veto.

[Artsda]

I'm laughing at Raven trying to go use the HOH room and the door being locked. 

[Wings]

This may not be a bad move. 

• Jess and Cody are outsiders
• they have to ease their way in and gain trust
• nominating non threatening HGs may give the others some relief
• no one likes Ramses or Josh so they have an easy night to bond
• Jessica has the hex
• they both want Paul out, there is time to feel the pulse for a back door

[Slider]

I'm reserving judgement until Sunday when I can see DR sessions and hear what their true strategies are.  Or veto tomorrow - because that will happen first and I think we'll get real clues as to what the plan is.   I feel like a Paul backdoor is in the works, so I'll wait and see.

[Lady Calypso]

3 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

I certainly don't like the nominations, but honestly, I can see it for Jess. Josh is a number against her and he hates her and Cody. Plus, she's safe for at least another week after this one, so I can see wanting to get in good with the majority during that time. Just like how Paul's multiple weeks of safety allowed him to consolidate power.

Yeah. I'd like to think that they realize that they don't have the numbers to get Paul out this week so they needed to play their game for now but maybe backdoor someone who's close, like Mark.  I could be giving them more credit, but I need to hear Jessica's game talk first. I think she wants to not have to use her Hex next week and this way, her and Cody have more time to figure out their next attack and that'll guarantee them to be safe until jury. It's too bad, though, that I don't want Paul in jury because he'll influence the minions to vote his way.

[missyb]

I don't see how they would have the votes to BD Paul. He still has a pretty good team. Jason would need to flip Alex and Im not sure he can.

Unfortunately the DR's are almost useless. We never hear their true thoughts. They reserve that  for BBOTT.

[Wings]

I am fine with this as I stated above.  A good move.  Nominating Paul straight out of the gate would backfire.  You have to finesse his departure.  I think more want him gone than are admitting.  When there is a louder voice and some numbers to do so I think it will happen.  I am not concerned.  He days are numbered.  

[Callaphera]

I mean, I'm not surprised. I'm a bit disappointed. Not enough that a cupcake didn't make me feel better.

ETA: Better to get Josh out before jury. Could you imagine having to live in the jury house with him too? Ugh.

Edited July 22, 2017 by Callaphera

[Artsda]

If Josh did go after Cody during HOH, it could be he did something while feeds were down to warrant his spot on the block.

[zorak]

Based on 2 different conversations I've seen since the feeds came back, Christmas seems to be pushing for Ramses to go home over Josh.  But it will come down to veto.  Paul just came in and was confirming to Christmas and Alex that if they win veto they will keep the nominations the same. 

[Katesus7]

Here's my thing - I have never liked Jessica or Cody together, so I don't really care about what is good for their game. I just knew that they wouldn't do anything to really shake up the game. 

I was completely wrong with noms, I thought Christmas/Alex, but to me, Josh/Ramses is even worse. Two people completely apart from any real alliances. Brilliant.

Oh well, at least I can get back to hating the "couple" that is Cody/Jessica. And I was just starting to like Jessica.

And Paul seems to loves the noms and wants to keep them the same. Which cements my opinion that these noms suck.

[vb68]

Christmas just told Alex that who ever goes this week is on her. She feels like she should have won.

She's trying to low key campaign for Josh, but it's not really working

[Wings]

7 minutes ago, zorak said:

Based on 2 different conversations I've seen since the feeds came back, Christmas seems to be pushing for Ramses to go home over Josh.  But it will come down to veto.  Paul just came in and was confirming to Christmas and Alex that if they win veto they will keep the nominations the same. 

LOL!  Of course he is!  

[Artsda]

Josh made his bed with Jess and Cody. He is also a Paul minion, does what ever he says so he's deserving to go on the block.  Ramses is the bizarre choice to be up there.

Also why is Christmas making plans without the veto being played yet? Mark and Elena will vote out Josh and based on the Matt/Raven/Christmas convo they have no intentions of voting to keep Josh either. So that's 4 votes+Cody = 5.  Jason/Alex/Christmas/Paul will probably keep him. Kevin can go either way.

Edited July 22, 2017 by Artsda

[missyb]

2 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Josh made his bed with Jess and Cody. He is also a Paul minion, does what ever he says so he's deserving to go on the block.  Ramses is the bizarre choice to be up there.

Also why is Christmas making plans without the veto being played yet? Mark and Elena will vote out Josh and based on the Matt/Raven/Christmas convo they have no intentions of voting to keep Josh either. So that's 4 votes+Cody = 5.  Jason/Alex/Christmas/Paul will probably keep him. Kevin can go either way.

What did you get out of the conversation that makes you think Matt and Raven would not be on board? I think they will change their minds a half a dozen times but end up dong what Paul wants. Paul still has the numbers.

[Artsda]

4 minutes ago, missyb said:

What did you get out of the conversation that makes you think Matt and Raven would not be on board? I think they will change their minds a half a dozen times but end up dong what Paul wants. Paul still has the numbers.

Because instead of saying yes, because that's what Paul wants. It was more deer in headlights look and a "we'll discuss it after POV."

 

Jessica and Steffi Graf are cousins!

[vb68]

11 minutes ago, Artsda said:

Josh made his bed with Jess and Cody

Yeah, I think Josh was Jess's gift of a nom to Cody for winning the buyback. Josh was going up whether he has pulled something else or not.

Everyone is way too relaxed and happy for noms having just occurred.

Jess says Steffi Graf is her second cousin.

And I think Cody just said he's never met a "halfbreed" before now, meaning Jess.  She finds it more amusing than I do.   

Edited July 22, 2017 by vb68

[Brian Cronin]

The really big problem with the nominations is that they seem to think Josh is definitely going, which is far far FAR from a certainty. 

[BK1978]

9 hours ago, watch2much said:

I did, and it was a strain for them to come up with anything interesting each week.  so hopefully, they learned from that.

A strain?  I don't know Special Agent Phillip Sheppard always managed to make me laugh because he was so damn crazy.

In news pertaining to this show.  I am not feeling these noms at all.  I want to see Paul's game get screwed and while Josh going might help that happen, I would much rather see Paul gone.

[missyb]

Cody and Jess join the chat room. They ask Cody what would be his ideal date. He says Roadhouse steakhouse . Then if date is bad at least he had a good  meal. This chit chat is so hard for him. He has no small talk. He is clearly awkward.

 

Ramses talking to Raven and Matt in kitchen. He says he has no voting block and can't do anything in the game. Matt says would not want HOH next week, Raven , me too. Ramses I want it.

[vb68]

12 minutes ago, Brian Cronin said:

The really big problem with the nominations is that they seem to think Josh is definitely going, which is far far FAR from a certainty. 

Come on Josh, win that veto and mess everyone's easy week up!

[zorak]

Matt just whispered something to Raven about how he thinks next week no matter who wins HOH, Matt and Raven will be safe.  Gah!

[Lady Calypso]

Maven talking game. It sounds like they want to keep Josh over Ramses...or, as Raven calls him, Ramsey. 

[Artsda]

Matt said no to keeping Ramses when Raven suggested it.

[Brian Cronin]

That's what I don't get about this move - who wouldn't want to keep Josh over Ramses, so long as they don't actively hate Josh (like Jess, Cody and Mark)?