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57 minutes ago, Cosmosgravitation said:

I think the reason Paul is trying to play it this way is he doesn't actually want Jessica to leave, only Cody.  He and Jessica were close before Cody tried to backdoor him, and I suspect he thinks if Cody is gone she will run back to him.   Paul thinks if Cody/Jessica are on the block together, there is a good chance Jessica would actually end up going, not Cody.

It just shows how arrogant/stupid Paul is if he thinks that Jessica will somehow run back to him.  If anything, she will unleash her furry on him.  She may be an annoying villain, but at least she knew to oust him front of the house for lying about having the Pendant of Protection.  It was Cody who broke the trust with the alliance - not her.

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For those who want to savour the look on Paul's face when the final vote was cast.

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First they came for Cody, and I did not speak out— Because I was lodged up Paul's ass. Then they came for Elena, and I did not speak out— Because I was lodged up Paul's ass. Then they ca

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Cody is socializing and laughing in bedroom with Jason, Kevin, Paul and maybe Alex, cannot see all of her bed.   Jessica is there, of course.  Oh wow, she just laughed!   Alternate reality morph

In an effort to focus on the positive today,  Cody is being very loving and attentive to Jessica.  

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Kevin is telling a very funny story about his daughters.  It is clear they adore him and he is a good sport and fabulous dad!  Very funny.  One of them sent him a snap chat of them having a party in the house, dancing on his pool table at 3 am.  35 people there.  Hysterical.  He was fine with it because one of his daughters took all of their keys.  He said that is all I care about, everyone being safe. 

This is worth a flashback.  It probably started at 10:45, camera 4.  

ETA.  He keeps going about his snap chat use.  Everyone is belly laughing.  

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SiobhanJW

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24 minutes ago, zorak said:

Why are Raven and Elena wearing sunglasses in the house this morning?  Are they trying to hide how they look without all their makeup on?

I have read from other Houseguests- that the studio lights are really bright- especially when they wake up in the morning, that they would wear their sunglasses inside. Tiffany from last season- said she wore her sunglasses a lot in the house because she would get headaches from the lights. 

iMonrey

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Mark on a wall hanging HoH comp will be entertaining. Those muscles will be falling off the wall faster than Meg did. 

Wasn't Mark one of the last three standing in the first HoH endurance (with Cody and Alex)? Or was that Matt?

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Why is there even a "Team Paul"?  Don't these hamsters know anything?  You never, ever, give the BB vet the upper hand.  You get them out as fast as possible.   If only to play your own game, and not some tired re-tread of a game.  Sheesh.  Cody knew that.  He just went about it badly...

I think there is a tendency for new players to want to "buddy up" with the vets so they'll become "famous" too. They know the vets are "fan favorites" so they figure they can attain the same status by hanging around with them. Conversely, they know the audience is probably rooting for the fan favorites and don't want the audience to start hating them for going after them. That's why returning players always have an unfair advantage, and it's why Alison Grodner doesn't need to compound that advantage with twists that guarantee Paul's safety so blatantly. He had a clear advantage from the moment he entered the house . . . she didn't need to give him even more.

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I'm not completely sure but Paul was telling someone earlier that Kevin had gone into the DR and sat there for 7 minutes straight staring at the camera saying he wasn't going to talk.  

How would Paul even know that? Did one of the producers tell him that, or did Kevin tell him that? I've heard the BB voice say "you are not allowed to talk about your diary rooms" so technically there shouldn't be any way for Paul to know what happened with one of Kevin's. 

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Callaphera

Callaphera

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2 minutes ago, Katesus7 said:

Hahahaha!  Elena has fallen asleep on the slanted couch in a ridiculous position, with her cup upside down dripping liquid out of the straw, and the camera keeps zooming in on it.  It's pretty hilarious, although she actually looks like someone murdered her.

I turned on the feeds just to see it and it was totally worth it.

So far, she's the champ for getting around the no napping from 10 to 10 rule.

ETA: For the feedless:

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Wings

Wings

5 minutes ago, TheGapper said:

Oh God, please! This is the wackadoodle testosterone nutzballs greak out I am PRAYING for. (Praying to the Gods that cause chaos with the players and freak out anxiety for Grodner en posse of course.)

I loved it at Josh's expense and that is unfortunate but he got the soothing he needed but learned nothing from the experience because he missed the point.  Raven+ rushed to help him and they had no idea what happened, he lapsed into his usual rap talking about his family.  

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KootieTaw

KootieTaw

1 hour ago, HurricaneVal said:

I'm not talking about now, when Paul is HoH.  I was referring to why the Bros and Boobs alliance was so mad at Cody for trying to nominate Paul--like he was a sacred part of their alliance.  I never got the feel that either Paul or Christmas were solid members of the B&B alliance, they were second tier and expendable.   Cody clearly felt that, however he didn't communicate that (not sure he is capable...)  Why was Paul even a hanger-on member of the B&B alliance?  He should have been isolated and shunned.  And now that Paul is HoH, the B&B alliance is falling right in behind him.  Or so it seems.

 

Sorry.  I just really hate BB vets coming back.  And?  I really, really dislike Paul...

I think the Bros/Boobs were MOSTLY mad that he didn't fill them in. If he had told them his plan, they would've felt more culpable and less "blame everything on Cody." 

Of course, Paul still would've been safe due to his "special powers" ... but I don't think Cody/Jessica would've been ostracized in quite the same way. Although, really, they seem to be doing that to themselves. No effort whatsoever to build a relationship with ANYone except the other. As close as Jessica was to quitting last night (at least how it seemed), if Cody goes first, I wouldn't be at all surprised if she self evicted.

TheGapper

TheGapper

14 hours ago, zorak said:

Christmas has to have surgery Monday.

She's telling Paul and Dominique but doesn't want people to know she's having surgery.

Ah NO, GAH, she probably can't stay in the game.  By the way, she reminds me so much of Ashley Judd...something in her face. I wanted her in the game just to push Jody's creepy buttons. He's the REAL scary fuck, not Josh. He's the one I see who goes bananas and does some real regrettable things.

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KootieTaw

KootieTaw

16 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

I turned on the feeds just to see it and it was totally worth it.

So far, she's the champ for getting around the no napping from 10 to 10 rule.

ETA: For the feedless:

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Thank you for sharing! She literally looks like the chalk figure they make around the deceased person in every murder mystery ever! LOL

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Wings

Wings

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3 minutes ago, TheGapper said:

Ah NO, GAH, she probably can't stay in the game.  By the way, she reminds me so much of Ashley Judd...something in her face. I wanted her in the game just to push Jody's creepy buttons. He's the REAL scary fuck, not Josh. He's the one I see who goes bananas and does some real regrettable things.

Christmas is having surgery on Monday and will return in the afternoon.  She is having pins put it.  She isn't going to say more than getting her foot checked and new cast.   

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TheGapper

TheGapper

13 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

Damnit. So I decided to log back in once I heard of the Jody vs Josh fight. Jody being hypocrites, Josh not letting things cool down when he should, ending with Josh crying in the bathroom, and Dom/Elena/Mark trying to calm him down.

Cody also bringing back his trigger word: VICTIM NOISES.

OMG - just when I think he might make it, he says something like that. I view Cody as a total sadist. Reminds me of an ex marine (or so he claimed) who was in one of the wars and worked pastry with me years ago in a restaurant, and thought he was so tough, and had a scary tattoo that said "no mercy". YUCK.

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Nashville

Nashville

9 hours ago, zorak said:

Well, Josh just agreed to go up.  But it'll be interesting to see what happens if Paul wins veto.  Josh made Paul promise him that if Paul wins veto Paul will pull Josh off the block.  But I'm pretty sure he promised Alex that he'd pull Alex off if he won. 

This is not good strategy - this is Paul trying to be flashy with the noms for flash's sake.  You want to be 100% certain one of Jody goes home?  Then put Jessica and Cody OTB side-by-side as original noms - one of them will still be sitting there come Thursday, guaranteed.

Actually, might be fun to have Cody and Jessica sitting side-by-side and have Cody win PoV.  It might be -ah- "interesting" to see if Devil Dawg follows through with his promise to protect Jessica's game, even at the expense of his own.  :>

 

5 hours ago, wings707 said:

I see them letting him lead because his agenda matches theirs.  Everyone agrees, they want Cody out so why not let Paul do it?  If I were there I would.  When his safety is up things will change.

Exactly.  Can't anybody do anything about Paul for the next couple of weeks anyway, so might as well let Paul accrue all the bad karma he wants until he's an option for the Block.

 

3 hours ago, MV007 said:

I think physical dominance is made out to be a bigger thing because it is something that is obvious.  It is also something that gives a player an extreme advantage in a large number of comps.  I would say a large number of comps require physical strength.  Then there are another percentage that is just dumb luck.  Then another percentage that actually requires mental strength.  But the comps requiring mental strength are a smaller percentage in my mind.  Maybe I'm wrong and thats just my perception.

I would gently disagree with this statement; overall athleticism is much more important comp-wise than brute strength.  Endurance and agility are much more frequently called-upon comp traits than heavy lifting.  We've seen many comps in fact - The Wall, Sausage Slappers (yes I know that isn't its name but I'm gonna call it that anyway dammit), etc. - where the additional muscle weight becomes a distinct disadvantage.

 

2 hours ago, wings707 said:

A friend of mine (occupational therapist) works with people like Josh.  She bristles when their behavior is compared to children.  An intellectually challenged adult is never the same as a child at any stage.  It is like comparing cheese and chalk.  

 

2 hours ago, iMonrey said:

I just saw a little of this on BBAD last night, but it's true: Josh is a giant man-child. And I find it disturbing that the people who cast this show deliberately chose someone who is so obviously "challenged," for lack of a better word. Look - the guy's just not very bright, probably in a borderline IQ range, and the producers thought it would be "funny" to put someone like this on TV. 

I am with @Callaphera on this one in that I don't think Josh is intellectually challenged; rather, I think the boy is severely undersocialized.  Josh is intelligent enough to have earned some sort of degree in business management, and he apparently holds down at least one job fairly successfully if not two (hair care product sales and/or working in the family business).  I'm guessing Josh was either homeschooled or church-schooled, though, because he never developed any degree of skin thickness for negative social interactions.  I'm guessing Mommy and Daddy kept Josh under the family wing for WAY longer than they should, and the neurotic mess we currently see before us is the result.

 

Also, I'm noting a double standard of Jessica's: she frantically shushed Cody when Cody has made his "tranny" remarks, but she sees no problem whatsoever with calling Josh a "f___ing retard - repeatedly.

 

1 hour ago, flipflopdiva said:

Honestly, I think them being mad at Cody has more to do with Cody than Paul. I don't remember how Paul became part of the second wing of the alliance, but the fact is that he and Christmas were. And expendable or not, you don't go after people in your own alliance without telling the other members of your alliance. Maybe if Cody had actually talked to the other showmance couples, they might have all gotten behind the backdoor Paul thing, but he didn't, so Cody became the untrustworthy one and the showmance couples wanted to keep Christmas (who was on their side!) versus Jillian who was on the other side.

As other people have said, their interests and Paul's align right now so it makes sense to stick with him (plus, he is a threat to the other side more than they are). It's week 2 and Paul is safe until week 4 anyway. If I were them, I would be doing the exact same thing. Why make waves when there is no advantage to doing so?

This, in spades.

 

1 hour ago, ifoundit said:

It just shows how arrogant/stupid Paul is if he thinks that Jessica will somehow run back to him.  If anything, she will unleash her furry on him.  She may be an annoying villain, but at least she knew to oust him front of the house for lying about having the Pendant of Protection.  It was Cody who broke the trust with the alliance - not her.

 

1 hour ago, Thalia said:

Heh heh, I'm 12.  

That makes two of us!  :D

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Lamb18

Lamb18

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Raven going on about her disease. Violin music in the background. Maybe she's hoping to be a poster child for the disease.

I'm feeling a little torn on this. On the one hand it sounds like a rotten disease to have and a scary one, too, but I feel like she's milking it for the feeds. On the other hand, it's probably the biggest factor in her life and people tend to talk about what's most important to them.

Christmas's cast is huge - seeing an aerial shot of it.

I'm liking these people better when I see them sitting around chatting, different groups mixing and chatting with each other.

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Nashville

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10 minutes ago, Lamb18 said:

Raven going on about her disease. Violin music in the background. Maybe she's hoping to be a poster child for the disease.

I'm feeling a little torn on this. On the one hand it sounds like a rotten disease to have and a scary one, too, but I feel like she's milking it for the feeds. On the other hand, it's probably the biggest factor in her life and people tend to talk about what's most important to them.

The older you get, the more your list of ailments becomes your primary source of conversation.

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KootieTaw

KootieTaw

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4 minutes ago, Nashville said:

The older you get, the more your list of ailments become your primary source of conversation.

I couldn't agree with this more. No joke, I am on a chat group with my mom, her cousin, my aunt and 1-2 other "older" ladies, and it is NON stop about their various ailments! Every day is a discussion of what hurts, what doesn't hurt, who is having surgery, who is going to the doctor, etc. 

The only difference is these ladies are 55 and older. How old is Raven? 

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TheGapper

TheGapper

4 hours ago, MV007 said:

What has Cody done to warrant being called a bigot?  I'm genuinely asking.  I know he had the whole "tranny" comment but while he was incredibly self-absorbed and arrogant in his defense of it, I also took him as being really naive and ignorant.

And while I don't think he would be easy to work with I do think he was interested in working with the other couples in the sense that he wanted to keep them in the house.  Having a physically dominating player on your team has value both in terms of keeping power and having an easy target for opposition to go after.

Apart from the trans comment, he also treats Jessica with very little respect. I don't like how he dismisses and controls her in a very condescending way, and even though I can not stand her, there is no excuse. She (Jessica) also talks to him from a lower position, like he is her master and she is a little scared of him. I don't know quite how to put this into words, but he doesn't like women. There are constant little nagging happenings. Sly and not too obvious, but never the less there. And his weird obsession/admiration with Alex is very strange. 

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Lamb18

Lamb18

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Someone didn't turn off the mike in the toilet room. Now that reminds me of this:

I visited my brother in Milwaukee last fall and went to his church on Sunday. The little Sunday School kids were up front to sing their song. The pastor uses this as an opportunity to dash off to his pastor's room adjacent to the pulpit/altar. Well, he didn't turn off his microphone. So while the kids are singing, I heard this sound like water running, then realize he's using the bathroom. Then you hear a loud flush and he returns up front. All while the kids are singing. And it was really loud.

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Wings

Wings

4 minutes ago, Nashville said:

I am with @Callaphera on this one in that I don't think Josh is intellectually challenged; rather, I think the boy is severely undersocialized.  Josh is intelligent enough to have earned some sort of degree in business management, and he apparently holds down at least one job fairly successfully if not two (hair care product sales and/or working in the family business).  I'm guessing Josh was either homeschooled or church-schooled, though, because he never developed any degree of skin thickness for negative social interactions.  I'm guessing Mommy and Daddy kept Josh under the family wing for WAY longer than they should, and the neurotic mess we currently see before us is the result.

I didn't read his bio.  Some kind of degree in business management?  hmmmm  I only know of him working for his family business.  I doubt home schooled.  I would guess he made it through public school, barely.  I agree with the lack of socialization coupled with low IQ attributes to his difficulties.    Put that with a rough neighborhood (guess), overly protective mother and no strong role models you have Josh. 

Callaphera

Callaphera

1 minute ago, wings707 said:

This phrase is a PC way to say dumb, really.  I don't think he has a diagnosis. 

Ah. See, when I was growing up, it was the polite term to use for the kids who had autism or other issues that made them non-verbal or what have you. That's why I was a little "Eh?" about the term. To me, Josh falls into the category of kids who had to go to a different school (from both that and "normal" school), where all the teenage delinquents, criminals, severely emotionally stunted, and one second away from dropping out went to. I don't know about his IQ (and I hate using IQ as an intelligence gauge, because I've known people who are book dumb but street/life smart and brilliant as hell) but he could be a bright, smart person, just not very good to expressing that. Or himself. Or emotions.

 

3 minutes ago, arieswriting said:

Have they even mentioned Raven's gastroparesis on the broadcast shows? It'd be hilarious if they never mention it and this entire time she thinks she's the poster child for it.

Nope. Not yet. I figured we would get a mention when she grabbed the Never Not pass in that comp but we didn't. They might be saving it for when the Cody versus Paul storyline gets a little stale. 

Nashville

Nashville

2 minutes ago, wings707 said:

This phrase is a PC way to say dumb, really.  I don't think he has a diagnosis. 

That's what you used in your post I was quoting, so I went with it.  I don't know any more.  :>

 

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A couple of Joker's gems:

Fri 11:25 AM BBT Kevin has everyone laughing so hard that they are crying over "If you wanna be an alcoholic, coach T-Ball" and the time he and his son visited a comic-con.

(This applies to Little League as well - trust me)

 

Fri 10:53 AM BBT Elena, Raven, Christmas act out giving Ramses an ultrasound in the apple room.

Guess that beats a D&C.

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Lamb18

Lamb18

Hey! The kitten feeds are different! There's a new kitten (orange and white) playing with a purple thing. I remember him from the earlier feeds - it was looking out of its cage, wanting to go out and play.

There's another kitten, looks like this one is all white except for a couple of orange markings. I wonder if they're siblings. Another kitten is looking out of its cage, saying "I want to play, too!"

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Callaphera

Callaphera

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5 minutes ago, Nashville said:

Fri 11:25 AM BBT Kevin has everyone laughing so hard that they are crying over "If you wanna be an alcoholic, coach T-Ball" and the time he and his son visited a comic-con.

(This applies to Little League as well - trust me)

Kids hockey, from what I hear, too. Those hockey moms. I live in fear of them. 

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Callaphera

Callaphera

If that's the same original orange guy (I think his name is Xander), he's definitely been the star of the feeds this season. Someone better snatch that little guy up. 

My cat is entranced by the kitten feed. He can't quite seem to figure out what they're doing, trapped in the box on my desk. He's, uh, not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. 

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Wings

Wings

3 minutes ago, Callaphera said:

Ah. See, when I was growing up, it was the polite term to use for the kids who had autism or other issues that made them non-verbal or what have you. That's why I was a little "Eh?" about the term. To me, Josh falls into the category of kids who had to go to a different school (from both that and "normal" school), where all the teenage delinquents, criminals, severely emotionally stunted, and one second away from dropping out went to. I don't know about his IQ (and I hate using IQ as an intelligence gauge, because I've known people who are book dumb but street/life smart and brilliant as hell) but he could be a bright, smart person, just not verb y good to expressing that. Or himself. Or emotions.

Ah yes, the short bus.  I hear you about the IQ debate and agree with you.  I was seeking verbal shorthand for the mess that is Josh trying to avoid the words stupid, dumb and moron.   Nothing works that does not inspire debate so I will go back to stupid.  :^)

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