S08.E24: Unleashed

[MostlyC]

Sam Hanna goes rogue from the NCIS team in an attempt to stop Tahir Khaled from every targeting his family again.

Season finale!!

[anna0852]

I did not think they could top the Holy Crap level from last week but I was wrong. Well done show, well done.

[123BP]

I thought it was not as good as last week's; it wasn't nearly as intense or surprising.

[fellini]

Sam  ripping Tahir's hand off with the handcuffs, is Ncis Los Angeles always so unrealistic?

[pennben]

I think the idea was Callen shot his hand off. 

[anna0852]

I think a villain has finally out-done Janvier in the 'complete monster' category. I'm so glad that Sam killed Tahir in that explosion. And god, poor Sam! How does he come back from this? I was hoping till the last second that Michelle's death had somehow been faked but that scene in the morgue just about had me in tears. 

I did appreciate Callen acknowledging his own lone-wolf tendencies as he was trying to prevent Sam from doing the same. And that Sabatino (whom the team seems to have accepted was not a mole) was well aware of the fact Sam was using him but didn't care. He cared for Michelle too and wants to help. 

Loved Deeks dealing with Tahir over the phone. So coldly furious but determined to keep him talking to trace the call. You could almost *see* him repressing flashbacks of that faked photo of Kensi's death from Season Five (Spoils of War) or earlier this season when she was still it the coma. Sam is now living Deek's worst nightmare and Deeks knows it.

Edited May 15, 2017 by anna0852
So many more thoughts!

[ymeagain]

11 minutes ago, pennben said:

I think the idea was Callen shot his hand off. 

Yea, that's what I thought, too.

[ymeagain]

I don't think this episode was as good s last week's. Last week's was more intense and I was expecting more intensity in this since Sam was out for revenge. It could have been. I wasn't really on the edge of my seat at all. There were some good scenes, but they pretty much flamed out. And it should have been Sam and the team not Sam and Sabatino; that didn't work for me.

Edited May 15, 2017 by ymeagain

[UncleChuck]

1 hour ago, ymeagain said:

And it should have been Sam and the team not Sam and Sabatino; that didn't work for me.

Well it was Sam and the team that prevailed.  Sam used Sabatino for a while, but left him handcuffed in an alley.  Nell drove the car that stopped the bus...Kensi dropped the driver when she popped out to see what was happening...Callen took care of the henchmen in the bus and Sam took care of Tahir.  Team effort. 

[dirtydi]

I liked this episode better than the last.  The team was on point, no mistakes.  The villain was formidable. I thought it was faster paced.

That shot off hand was gross.  I wasn't expecting that close-up of the hand being blown off, on this show.

Yay for that proposal.  I was smiling the entire time.  They both looked beautiful in that scene too.

Edited May 15, 2017 by dirtydi

[anna0852]

I think that was a good proposal. Felt very real for them. And about the only light spot in the whole episode. Loved Kensi oh-so-casually detonating that flash bang, just to get her hands on the ring!

[Bobbin]

I thought Callen just shot the links from the handcuffs to free Sam. Good shooting, including taking out the baddies on the bus without being hit or harming the passengers.

So, CBS is marrying off main characters. Tim and Delilah, Toby and Happy, Kensi and Deeks. And it's not even June. The Navy must have some sort of rule against marrieds serving together, doesn't it?

Nell is getting increasingly credible as a field agent: "Hettie, Jr."

[Jillibean]

I thought it was pretty good. I know this was meant to be a Sam episode, but I thought the real stand-out in acting was COD. He did an amazing job of portraying how worried, protective, determined, perturbed, and frustrated Callen was with the ongoing situation. The scene with Sam doing a K-turn to get around Kensi and Deeks and ending up with Callen blocking him was a great shot. For whatever romances or dad storylines they write for the character, I felt this is where we truly saw his heart. That being said, of course LL was also great--I just think he almost had less to work with, because Sam in this episode was angry and singularly focused until the bus scene when other emotions started slipping through. On the other end of the spectrum, Renee's tearfulness over Michelle at the beginning of the episode struck me as overdone, like she was purposely trying to make her voice warble. I like her generally, but on-screen crying isn't for everyone. On a shallow note, I was also distracted by her bangs--have the sides always been so uneven?

Interesting that Nell and Hetty's misleading orders weren't discussed; I assume it will come up next season. I'm not sure Tahir's grand revenge scheme made much actual sense, but I guess I'll go with it. Good thing for Sam and all the hostages that Callen has such flawless aim. Also good thing for them that the very many people clearly in on the "let's all drive away in white..Corollas, was it?" decided to just sit around and not participate in any further schemes, leaving Tahir with, like, three henchvillains to ride the tour bus with, at least one of whom was spectacularly dumb. Also, in my headcanon, Tahir was clearly aware that Deeks was trying to keep him on the phone (because, come on, master criminal) and just wanted to see what this crazy dude would say next to try to elongate the conversation. I begrudgingly appreciated Deeks' dedication to the step-by-step instructions of how Tahir could put a hand grenade in his mouth. 

I enjoyed the proposal and the spirit behind it--that Kensi realized she didn't want to wait even another second and was just as capable of doing it as he was. And to Deeks' point, he had indeed technically proposed three times, though none of said proposals were timed correctly. In some ways, I think it had to be Kensi who did it, because she was the "hold-out," if you will, in terms of who was ready. The call-back to sunshine and gunpowder was great and gave me hope that someone on the writers staff is paying attention to continuity. 

On the whole, I think this season was far better than last season, I'm sure due to the new showrunner at least making an effort. 

[123BP]

9 hours ago, UncleChuck said:

Well it was Sam and the team that prevailed.  Sam used Sabatino for a while, but left him handcuffed in an alley.  Nell drove the car that stopped the bus...Kensi dropped the driver when she popped out to see what was happening...Callen took care of the henchmen in the bus and Sam took care of Tahir.  Team effort. 

True, but the episode was almost (or more than) halfway through by then. I would rather have seen Sam go it alone than with Sabatino (and I like Sabatino--always have cuz he reminds me of Renko). Sam really didn't go "lone wolf." And, once again, Callen's alone (and no, being a member of a team isn't the same as having someone in your life).  

[123BP]

2 hours ago, Jillibean said:

I thought it was pretty good. I know this was meant to be a Sam episode, but I thought the real stand-out in acting was COD. He did an amazing job of portraying how worried, protective, determined, perturbed, and frustrated Callen was with the ongoing situation. The scene with Sam doing a K-turn to get around Kensi and Deeks and ending up with Callen blocking him was a great shot. For whatever romances or dad storylines they write for the character, I felt this is where we truly saw his heart. That being said, of course LL was also great--I just think he almost had less to work with, because Sam in this episode was angry and singularly focused until the bus scene when other emotions started slipping through. On the other end of the spectrum, Renee's tearfulness over Michelle at the beginning of the episode struck me as overdone, like she was purposely trying to make her voice warble. I like her generally, but on-screen crying isn't for everyone. On a shallow note, I was also distracted by her bangs--have the sides always been so uneven?

Interesting that Nell and Hetty's misleading orders weren't discussed; I assume it will come up next season. I'm not sure Tahir's grand revenge scheme made much actual sense, but I guess I'll go with it. Good thing for Sam and all the hostages that Callen has such flawless aim. Also good thing for them that the very many people clearly in on the "let's all drive away in white..Corollas, was it?" decided to just sit around and not participate in any further schemes, leaving Tahir with, like, three henchvillains to ride the tour bus with, at least one of whom was spectacularly dumb. Also, in my headcanon, Tahir was clearly aware that Deeks was trying to keep him on the phone (because, come on, master criminal) and just wanted to see what this crazy dude would say next to try to elongate the conversation. I begrudgingly appreciated Deeks' dedication to the step-by-step instructions of how Tahir could put a hand grenade in his mouth. 

I enjoyed the proposal and the spirit behind it--that Kensi realized she didn't want to wait even another second and was just as capable of doing it as he was. And to Deeks' point, he had indeed technically proposed three times, though none of said proposals were timed correctly. In some ways, I think it had to be Kensi who did it, because she was the "hold-out," if you will, in terms of who was ready. The call-back to sunshine and gunpowder was great and gave me hope that someone on the writers staff is paying attention to continuity. 

On the whole, I think this season was far better than last season, I'm sure due to the new showrunner at least making an effort. 

I agree that COD was the standout this episode and the shot when Sam is trying to drive away was great. I also found Nell's "emotion" at the beginning forced; her plea to Sam on the street was more believable. The proposal was as it should have been even if everyone saw it coming. The lack of henchmen was a problem, but I didn't think Tahir even cared about dying; he was consumed with hatred for Sam (I liked the bit about Sam's name--it's two words). One of the scenes that made me hurt was in the morgue when G tells Sam he's there for him--the whole team is--and Sam doesn't really acknowledge it. You know Sam's hurting, but I wish he had done something, touched his shoulder, looked at him, something to acknowledge what he said.

[misstwpherecool]

It started out tighter than usual and peeked out with Deeks debating what to do with the phone call. The 'proposal' was bad enough but exacerbated by basically discharging a weapon/flash bang at a terrorism crime scene. Unprofessional & lack of tact among their peers. And yes married or involved couples is frowned upon in many businesses, organizations  etc. Gibbs doesn't like it.

When Kensi & Deeks didn't wait for Callen that was predictable and I'm glad he got mad about the photos/evidence.

Sam Hannah is two words! Got It!

[betsyboo]

5 hours ago, Jillibean said:

 

I enjoyed the proposal and the spirit behind it--that Kensi realized she didn't want to wait even another second and was just as capable of doing it as he was. And to Deeks' point, he had indeed technically proposed three times, though none of said proposals were timed correctly. In some ways, I think it had to be Kensi who did it, because she was the "hold-out," if you will, in terms of who was ready. The call-back to sunshine and gunpowder was great and gave me hope that someone on the writers staff is paying a

Loved that too!

Clearly Tahir was looking to kill himself all along and take SamHanna with him. That is one seriously messed up MF who hijacks the body to dangle over the guy's head. Dude! you already killed her! Now you're just toying with him!

Nell bugs. I wish she had taken 10 seconds to put on some tactical pants instead of keeping extra ammo in her fanny pack. (Yes, i know she wasn't really carrying a fanny pack, but she might as well have been.)

I thought it would end with Nell saying to Kensi: "Now do we cry?" I agree that her plea "Let us help you!" was genuine at the end.

I enjoy that Sam assumes he *can come back to work after spending time with his kids. I guess I can handwave it, but at least own it! It's possible that you might be in trouble for going rogue.

"And yes, I recognize the irony of telling you not to pull the lone-wolf crap."

[HurricaneVal]

Wow.  The cast just really drove that episode home!  Well done, well done by everyone.  Everybody turned in a fabulous, complexly nuanced performance.  From the look that Sam gave Callen right at the beginning when Callen was trying to get him to focus on the kids, to Deeks being calculating and coldly furious on the phone with Tahir, to the Nell and Kensi scene on when/how do they process their emotions, to--was that a tinge of regret from Hettie?--when she startled Eric in Ops.

 

And they still brought the humor for such an intense episode.  I loved the callback on the "Sam Hanna is two words" from both Deeks and Sam.  I think they're gonna be OK.

[anna0852]

27 minutes ago, betsyboo said:

 

Nell bugs. I wish she had taken 10 seconds to put on some tactical pants instead of keeping extra ammo in her fanny pack. (Yes, i know she wasn't really carrying a fanny pack, but she might as well have been.

Since Nell has always dressed appropriately in the field before, I'm chalking this up to just *how urgent* this was that she didn't change.

Such a great yet heart rending episode. 

[Bobbin]

3 hours ago, 123BP said:

One of the scenes that made me hurt was in the morgue when G tells Sam he's there for him--the whole team is--and Sam doesn't really acknowledge it. You know Sam's hurting, but I wish he had done something, touched his shoulder, looked at him, something to acknowledge what he said.

In a perfect world.... But grief is messy. And numbing. With generous helpings of shock, anger and guilt. All of which must be processed and dealt with in one's own way, in one's own time. Sam's lack of reaction was very realistic.

[ymeagain]

3 hours ago, misstwpherecool said:

I'm glad he got mad about the photos/evidence.

Same here. They didn't need more evidence.

46 minutes ago, Bobbin said:

Sam's lack of reaction was very realistic.

Yea, but I understand the comment. At the end, Callen's solo. The team is there, but it's not the same.

7 hours ago, Jillibean said:

Interesting that Nell and Hetty's misleading orders weren't discussed; I assume it will come up next season.

I don't think the higher ups have had time to process that since the action's continuing the next day. They may get to it but hope it doesn't turn into another "Hetty goes to DC" story lines.

1 hour ago, betsyboo said:

I enjoy that Sam assumes he *can come back to work after spending time with his kids. I guess I can handwave it, but at least own it! It's possible that you might be in trouble for going rogue.

Everybody gets leave for a death in the family (bereavement)--especially this time. As for "going rogue," what did he actually do when he went "rogue"? Did he kill anyone? Did he seriously injure anyone? For going "rogue," Sam was pretty restrained--his training kicked in. When Callen went "rogue" in Reznikov, N., he killed how many?

Edited May 15, 2017 by ymeagain
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[ymeagain]

15 hours ago, anna0852 said:

And about the only light spot in the whole episode.

The ambulance scene was a light spot and Hetty offering a drink to Beale--his coming of age (I think everybody else has been through that ritual).

[betsyboo]

38 minutes ago, ymeagain said:

As for "going rogue," what did he actually do when he went "rogue"? Did he kill anyone? Did he seriously injure anyone? For going "rogue," Sam was pretty restrained--his training kicked in. When Callen went "rogue" in Reznikov, N., he killed how many?

He ditched Callen at the mosque, intentionally left his badge behind, tossed his phone, armed himself and a rogue (at the time - we don't know that Sabatino is officially back to work...?) CIA agent, went after Tahir on his own after dumping Sabatino, tried to leave when the crew showed up to help him....

I'm not defending him one way or another, nor am I saying he didn't have a right to feel what he feels. Just pointing out that with all eyes on LA after the mole hunt and the Chegwidden snafu that SecNav might try to make an example of him, or at least "suspend" him. However, since Vance seems to be looking the other way these days on the Mothership (Bishop, I'm looking at you), he might come back unscathed.

[ymeagain]

19 minutes ago, betsyboo said:

I'm not defending him one way or another, nor am I saying he didn't have a right to feel what he feels. Just pointing out that with all eyes on LA after the mole hunt and the Chegwidden snafu that SecNav might try to make an example of him, or at least "suspend" him.

Doubt it. Ditching Callen--so what? Hooking up with Sabatino? Again, so what? Went after Tahir? Yea, but he didn't kill anyone or hurt anyone. So, again, so what? Nobody--other than NCIS, LAPD, and other law enforcement know who Sam is. Any of his team going to snitch? No. Is Sabatino going to snitch? He's already gone. Again, not much happened when he went rogue. In fact, not nearly as much happened as Hetty's old comrades came to town--and that was because they'd lost money.

 

8 hours ago, Jillibean said:

Also good thing for them that the very many people clearly in on the "let's all drive away in white..Corollas, was it?" decided to just sit around and not participate in any further schemes,

Thinking about that, the drivers didn't need to be Tahir's henchmen. In a big city, it'd be easy to find guys to drive cars for a couple hundred dollars. Even if they were stopped by police, the only law they'd be breaking would be no license plate. Tahir could have pulled this off with very few men.

Edited May 15, 2017 by ymeagain

[pennben]

I think all the characters go rogue and to say it's okay for some to go rogue and not for others to is creating distinctions that aren't there. I just accept all of them will do it from time and don't try to justify it in a particular episode for a particular character and then decry it for another in a different episode.

i just save my annoyance mostly for Hetty:)!

[anna0852]

And Hetty usually deserves it!

[mtmjr]

It was a good episode, for sure.  Not as gut-wrenching as last week, but you couldn't very well top that, and besides, I don't  know if I could take that level of intensity and horror twice in a row.  

That said, I'm somewhat ambivalent about the whole thing.  Killing Michelle in such a horrible, frustrating way just seems so ... well ... pointless.  It didn't advance the plot -- we already know that Tahir is a monster.  It didn't do anything for the characters except torture them.  Basically, it was just one of those "we have to bump off a popular character occasionally so that you know when we put our characters in jeopardy there's an actual chance they will die" moments.  I blame  "24" for popularising this trend.

The episode itself played out in a fairly linear way.  Sam "goes rogue," except he really doesn't, because he teams up with Sabatino and doesn't really do anything out-of-bounds.  Then, the team persuades him to work with them, which I did like, especially Nell's heartfelt plea and Callen standing in front of the car.  Then they all team up to assist Tahir in blowing himself up.  The end.  I guess I was hoping for a twist.  Of course, the twist I was really hoping for was that Michelle wasn't really dead, and instead they had a sparklingly clever plan to ruin Tahir, but you can't always get what you want . . . 

I kinda see this as a lost opportunity to do something really cool with a tense, well-grounded story and an established villain.  Instead, it ended up as standard procedural revenge porn.

That said, maybe LL Cool J or the producers just wanted him to have a little more meat to play with for his character.  I am interested to see how this changes him, or if it does.  I do think he's an under-rated actor, and I get that it could be boring to play the same stable, disciplined good guy season after season.  This does give him a chance to bring more dimensions to the character.  I guess I'll re-evaluate next season whether the development helps or hurts the show overall.

I will say that overall I loved Season Eight, and think it was one of the strongest to date.  Oh, and Kensi's proposal was everything I could have hoped, and very them.  But wasn't I promised a cliffhanger?  Did I miss it?

Edited May 15, 2017 by mtmjr

[HurricaneVal]

One thing that I noted at the time, but forgot to mention above was when Sam handcuffed Sabatino to the ATM, he looked directly up at the screen and therefore the camera--knowing full well that Eric in Ops had facial rec programs actively scanning traffic and security cam footage across the city. Sam might have been rogue, but he was leaving a trail of breadcrumbs for his team to catch up in time to be backup.

Also? I've gotta say those were the most passive tourists sitting on that "Tour of the Stars" tour bus just hanging out on a general street corner and not, you know, touring. Yeah, they were there on the bus when it got hijacked and the driver killed, but but they seemed awfully casual over the whole thing.

Ditto the random citizen sharing the bus shelter with Callen. He's having this whole conversation via earbug right in front of her, and she doesn't bat an eye. In this day and age of people having pretty intimate conversations on their cell phones via bluetooth at top volume, I guess it isn't that much out of the ordinary, but the content of the conversation would make me either think Callen was a paranoid-delusional lunatic, or deep in some serious shit. Either one would make me move on and catch the bus somewhere else...

Edited May 15, 2017 by HurricaneVal

[123BP]

44 minutes ago, mtmjr said:

Basically, it was just one of those "we have to bump off a popular character occasionally so that you know when we put our characters in jeopardy there's an actual chance they will die" moments.

I think it was more that the writers wanted to give Sam more opportunities to develop as a character. Having him "married" to a character who isn't on the show makes it tough. That's one reason I hope they either keep Anna as a semi-regular or find someone else who can be; I'm sick of hearing characters "talk" about relationships. If they're going to be in one, show us (like Kensi and Deeks and Eric and Nell).

 

15 minutes ago, HurricaneVal said:

Yeah, they were there on the bus when it got hijacked and the driver killed, but but they seemed awfully casual over the whole thing.

Were the tourists on the bus when it was hijacked? I didn't get that. I thought Tahir and his cohorts hijacked the bus and then picked up the tourists. You know, one of those get on - get off bus rides.

 

15 minutes ago, HurricaneVal said:

I guess it isn't that much out of the ordinary, but the content of the conversation would make me either think Callen was a paranoid-delusional lunatic, or deep in some serious shit. Either one would make me move on and catch the bus somewhere else...

That's funny, but being LA born and living in big cities around the country, that conversation isn't as unusual as you might think while waiting for public transportation. XD

Edited May 15, 2017 by 123BP

[123BP]

22 hours ago, mtmjr said:

But wasn't I promised a cliffhanger?  Did I miss it?

That's what I was wondering. Could it be whether or not Sam comes back? That doesn't seem like much given that he tells G to take care of Hetty and the team while he's gone. And wasn't there supposed to be something that was a "game changer"? Was that Michelle's death?
 

Edited May 16, 2017 by 123BP

[anna0852]

Good points @HurricaneVal

Did anyone else pick up on Sam telling Sabatino that he (Sam) is the only who is expendable. Even at his worst, knowing he might be headed towards a painful death, Sam won't take chances with the lives of the people around him. Or he's just suicidal. It's hard to read the motive.

[123BP]

1 minute ago, anna0852 said:

Or he's just suicidal.

I don't believe Sam's suicidal for a minute. He's expendable because Michelle was his wife, this is his fight. At least, that's what he thinks. Besides, if he were suicidal, why not just kill Tahir once all the civilians were off the bus? And he's certainly not going to commit suicide after Tahir's death; he has his kids. And he told G to take care of Hetty and the team until he gets back. If he doesn't come back, it won't be because he's committed suicide IMO.

[anna0852]

I don't think Jada is coming back. She hates the US for one thing and last time we saw her she was engaged to be married.

I'd be very surprised if we ever see Sam dating. 

[mtmjr]

3 minutes ago, anna0852 said:

I'd be very surprised if we ever see Sam dating. 

I could accept Sam dating, though not next season, but in the far future.  He's a relatively young man, and Michelle would never have wanted him to become a monk.  But certainly not Jada.  Presumably, she's already married to her beau in Sudan and anyway, she would be a terrible match for Sam -- she loved his undercover persona, not real Sam.  And Sam's feelings for her were complex, but I don't think he ever wanted to be with her on this plane of reality (though I do think he maybe imagined scenarios where he was with her, which is probably now making his guilt and misery even worse).

[callie lee 29]

@mtmjr i agree about Michelle. As much as I liked Michelle and I really liked one fucking person in NCIS being in a good, healthy, long term relationship (seriously why do they always, or mostly, kill the chick, WTH?), her dying wasn't a big deal to the bottom line.  I did like that it resulted in a proposal for Kensi and Deeks. And that he brought up his three past proposals. People on here called that.
 

Sam going rogue, in the actual world, would be a huge deal. Regardless of whether he was or wasn't told to, regardless of the results of that, you don't do that. NCIS may not strictly be military, but yeah, no, TPTB, would take issue. It's just something so obvious in that life, that it's understood.  But this is tv NCIS, taking it personally and going rogue will probably get a promotion.

 

Nell normally irritates me when she's in the field, but the "Jesus is my copilot" damn near made me fall off my couch.

[ohjoy]

2 hours ago, callie lee 29 said:

Nell normally irritates me when she's in the field, but the "Jesus is my copilot" damn near made me fall off my couch.

Followed by Deeks in the street Jesus costume shouting, "No he isn't!" Nice moment of levity.

[HurricaneVal]

2 hours ago, callie lee 29 said:

Jesus is my copilot

OMG.  I totally forgot about that one.  I completely spit-snorted at that line!  I couldn't believe the writers went there.  Or did they?  The two actors had kind of goofy looks on their faces, so I wondered if it was an ad lib near-blooper they left in because it was so perfect.  Either way, it was awesome...

[UncleChuck]

On 5/15/2017 at 2:59 AM, Bobbin said:

Nell is getting increasingly credible as a field agent: "Hettie, Jr."

I'm waiting for the episode when Nell learns she needs glasses...and she shows up wearing little round rims.

[Sake614]

On ‎5‎/‎15‎/‎2017 at 3:59 AM, Bobbin said:

The Navy must have some sort of rule against marrieds serving together, doesn't it?

Tim and Delilah don't work together. They're in two entirely different agencies.

[centopercento]

goodmorning.

Now I think I understand the episode well

Quote

Deeks

Not to be a stickler for detail.but I've actually proposed
three (3)times,if you count the very romantic version I did while you were in a coma !!

I remember in the hospital, 2

Someone remembers the third time? Did I miss something?

Or did it happen and we did not see it?Will we see it in the near future?

Even the discussion around Whiting, in the past episodes, they make us understand that it has been done ,but they do not make us understand what they have decided to do.

This means that the decision of kensi, which is clearly improvised, also stems from situations that we can not know now.
Apart from the fact that their lives can be extemporaneous.

Some of you have seen a possible reminder of John Wayne in D-DAY film in black e white? Sainte-Mère-Église ?

When Callen shouting at Densi In office of Media Advert Holdings "Take them down"....

Possible?

Edited May 17, 2017 by centopercento

[123BP]

12 hours ago, centopercento said:

Some of you have seen a possible reminder of John Wayne in D-DAY film in black e white? Sainte-Mère-Église ?

When Callen shouting at Densi In office of Media Advert Holdings "Take them down"....

Possible?

Gosh, it's been years since I saw that (a big Cornelius Ryan fan) maybe--although they were taking down dead airborne troops not photos. I'm glad Callen had them take the photos down even if they were evidence. I've learned a lot about firearms and such watching this show. I wondered about getting shot wearing a vest so checked it out; it's like being hit full on with a baseball bat (and internal injuries are possible). Ouch!!

[centopercento]

36 minutes ago, 123BP said:

 I've learned a lot about firearms and such watching this show. I wondered about getting shot wearing a vest so checked it out; it's like being hit full on with a baseball bat (and internal injuries are possible). Ouch!!

For weapons it is definitely better to go to a polygon, so one realizes it.

I've seen only 3 realistic shows about it: Band of Brother, Pacific and Italian Gomorra !!

Regarding the bulletproof vest It depends on what and how you have been hit.

For me it is not real that you rise as Callen ..

I used weapons, including Deeks Berretta, fortunately not the jacket

Edited May 17, 2017 by centopercento

[Rambler]

Poor coroner's van driver dude. Your van gets hijacked and then nobody cares about you. When Tahir contacts NCIS do they say "What have you done with the coroner’s van driver?" Nope. They are all "Grrr you stole Michelle's dead body and now Sam's gonna get you!!!" Then at the end, Nell says that the LAPD found Michelle's body, but not one word about the driver. Thanks writers, now I will spend the rest of my life wondering what happened to the coroner's van driver dude.

[MaxGentry]

49 minutes ago, Rambler said:

van conducente tizio poveri del medico legale. Il furgone viene dirottato e poi nessuno si preoccupa per te. Quando i contatti Tahir NCIS dicono "Che cosa hai fatto con il driver furgone del coroner?" No. Sono tutti "Grrr hai rubato il corpo morto di Michelle e ora andando di Sam che si ottiene !!!" Poi, alla fine, Nell dice che la polizia di Los Angeles ha trovato il corpo di Michelle, ma non una parola sul driver. scrittori Grazie, ora passerò il resto della mia vita a chiedersi cosa è successo a conducente van tizio del coroner.

I'm seven years asking myself questions; from the second season.
Not for the first: beautiful and perfect.

Edited May 18, 2017 by MaxGentry

[RobertDeSneero]

13 hours ago, Rambler said:

Poor coroner's van driver dude. Your van gets hijacked and then nobody cares about you. When Tahir contacts NCIS do they say "What have you done with the coroner’s van driver?" Nope. They are all "Grrr you stole Michelle's dead body and now Sam's gonna get you!!!" Then at the end, Nell says that the LAPD found Michelle's body, but not one word about the driver. Thanks writers, now I will spend the rest of my life wondering what happened to the coroner's van driver dude.

Just assume that he was left alive to identify Tahir so NCIS would be sure to know it was him, as if they wouldn't suspect it anyways.