S07.E21: Reunion Part 3

[Mindthinkr]

31 minutes ago, diadochokinesis said:

There is a theory out there on the internet (I believe it started with Lainey) that basically celebrities kind of get emotionally stunted at the age they became famous

Doing drugs/excessive alcohol during your teenage years will also stunt your emotional growth. 

[Martinigirl]

4 minutes ago, diadochokinesis said:

I'd have to go back and watch it again but I think Eileen gave an example which showed it being used as an insult.  Like, Eileen is just a soap actress whereas Kim is an ACTRESS. She did movies!  

I've never really seen Eileen as being overly dramatic. 

I don't see her being overly dramatic either. I actually enjoy her talking head shots. (with the exception of the "write it down, tear it up). I think Kim and most likely the rest hate that LisaR and Eileen have a true friendship. 

[Jel]

The idea of enabling is not without its detractors, some going as far to argue that it's simply more excuse making made by the addicts who will not take responsibility for their own behavior and instead point to the actions of others as a reason for it.  Others argue that it artificially prevents the addict from "hitting bottom" and robs them of their potential moment of realization.

It's a grey area, because while technically a wife calling in sick for her hungover husband who will lose his job if he misses another day of work due to his drinking is the definition of enabling behavior, she is thinking of her small kids and their need for food and shelter and may do it because she doesn't want him to lose his job and the family to be evicted from their home.  Like a lot of things, it's complicated. And as others have pointed out, Kim's underage children may have been Kyle and Mauricio's primary concern at the time. I can understand that.  I'd say it meets the definition of enabling, but that doesn't make it the wrong thing to have done. Would Kim have hit bottom if she lost her home? Maybe, maybe not. Would her kids have suffered if she lost her home, especially if that still wasn't enough to make her stop? Definitely.

[CatMomma]

2 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Why all the sudden hate about Eileen and her Soap career? Because Kim said it? Kim has on more than one occassion mocked Eileen for being on a soap. Like that fact alone means that she is somehow not worthy or that her opinion matters less. Does anyone think that is OK?  I don't recall Eileen ever mocking Kim's past career, or even any of her more recent scrapes with the law  or her irresponsible behavior as a pet owner. She only seems to address specific situations where Kim behaves like a crazy loon, she doesn't go after her personal and professional life choices (such as they are). How does any of that get to a place where Eileen is suddenly a complete and total loser because her career has consisted for a long period of time appearing in a very competitive industry that she seems to be good at, loves, and finds fulfilling? I just hate that someone with the recent history of a Kim Richards - of making incredibly irresponsible and harmful decisions that have hurt her family and could have had serious repercussions for others - gets to mock someone else for the longevity and success of their career and it is just an OK thing to do. She should be shamed, IMO. 

I can't stand Eileen, but I so agree with this. Women have a hard time in any field, including show business. That Eileen has had a successful career in soaps is nothing to sneer about. Taking snipes at her character is a-okay with me, but she has been a working actress for three decades.  

Same goes for Kim.  She was a working child actress during a time when there were few safeguards in place for children, which probably contributed to a lot of her issues.  I honestly can't see criticizing either for their professional accomplishments. 

Ugh, I hate defending either one of them. 

[Martinigirl]

Did they show where Eileen says to Kim "Have you seen your face?".  Did I miss it? 

Edited April 26, 2017 by Martinigirl

[Mindthinkr]

Dear Kyle,

  If you are reading this please notice how many likes are at the bottom. It's the number of people who think that you are enabling your sister. We suggest that you get professional help. Constantly bailing out your sister gives her no thirst to get up and go make a healthy productive life for herself.

[motorcitymom65]

2 minutes ago, CatMomma said:

I can't stand Eileen, but I so agree with this. Women have a hard time in any field, including show business. That Eileen has had a successful career in soaps is nothing to sneer about. Taking snipes at her character is a-okay with me, but she has been a working actress for three decades.  

Same goes for Kim.  She was a working child actress during a time when there were few safeguards in place for children, which probably contributed to a lot of her issues.  I honestly can't see criticizing either for their professional accomplishments. 

Ugh, I hate defending either one of them. 

Agreed. I cannot stand Kim, but cannot imagine poking fun at her career. It was a real-life thing, probably important to her. If Eileen were mocking and shaming her career, then she would have every right to lash out, but that is not what is happening here. Ugh, I just hate it when women tear each other down about things that are significant and important to them just because they are pissed about something else. But that is at the core about what I hate about Kim. People try to address her erratic or strange behavior, and she becomes a moody teenage girl, using whatever weapon she has to inflict pain because she doesn't have an actual argument to make, or a defense to offer up for her own bad behavior. 

[motorcitymom65]

17 minutes ago, diadochokinesis said:

I'd have to go back and watch it again but I think Eileen gave an example which showed it being used as an insult.  Like, Eileen is just a soap actress whereas Kim is an ACTRESS. She did movies!  

I've never really seen Eileen as being overly dramatic. 

Yea, she has said several snarky things over the years - not just a one and done. She said something bitchy at the S5 reunion (Eileen's first on the show) which was intended to minimize Eileen's professional career. I think Eileen won that round, however, because a few days later Kim was in jail and Eileen had a contract for another year on this show, while Kim has been relegated to barely "friends of" status. 

[Mindthinkr]

4 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

May I ask if the pain pills are OTC?  I have intense back pain.  Tylenol doesn't help.  Thank you!

Try Advil Gel Capsules, but buy brand because I've learned from experience that they work more quickly and are better than the generics. The amount that they can differ (in original formula ratio) when making certain drugs can effect their potency. They reduce inflammation and also relieve pain. It's my go to. I hope it helps. 

[HunterHunted]

46 minutes ago, diadochokinesis said:

Seriously! Her heyday was in the 1970's with some credits in the 80's (but nowhere near as many). What people know about her now is that she is an addict who shoplifted from Target. 

There is a theory out there on the internet (I believe it started with Lainey) that basically celebrities kind of get emotionally stunted at the age they became famous. I have to say that there is evidence that points to it being valid. 

That was my thing with that whole Kim interaction. Eileen was asking why did she use soap actress as an insult. Why did Kim feel the need to belittle Eileen for being a soap actress?  At least Eileen is a working actress.  I know tons of actors and actresses would appreciate any job--even if it was on a soap!

I've heard Dr. Drew talk about the emotionally stunted theory since 1999 or 2000, well before Lainey Gossip or any other blog.

I imagine that Kim's career and work are completely unknown to people younger than 35. This show is all they know about her. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Kim's attitude about soaps came from Big Kathy.

[CatMomma]

50 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Agreed. I cannot stand Kim, but cannot imagine poking fun at her career. It was a real-life thing, probably important to her. If Eileen were mocking and shaming her career, then she would have every right to lash out, but that is not what is happening here. Ugh, I just hate it when women tear each other down about things that are significant and important to them just because they are pissed about something else. But that is at the core about what I hate about Kim. People try to address her erratic or strange behavior, and she becomes a moody teenage girl, using whatever weapon she has to inflict pain because she doesn't have an actual argument to make, or a defense to offer up for her own bad behavior. 

Sorry, should have added that Eileen showed incredible restraint. I agree with the bold.

ETA: Which is why I have a hard time with her.  She won't take the shot, but she will cosign when someone else takes aim and fires. Sure, she didn't go after Kim, but she didn't seem to have a problem when LR went low. In defense of Kim, she saw Eileen's duplicity and called her on it.  The problem is, Kim can't stick to the facts. She has to say stupid shit and her point is missed.

Edited April 26, 2017 by CatMomma

[diadochokinesis]

Just now, HunterHunted said:

I've heard Dr. Drew talk about the emotionally stunted theory since 1999 or 2000, well before Lainey Gossip or any other blog.

I imagine that Kim's career and work are completely unknown to people younger than 35. This show is all they know about her. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Kim's attitude about soaps came from Big Kathy.

 

Oh, Dr. Drew...  I have conflicted opinions on him.  I think he is a great physician and addict specialist but damn, he's a famewhore too.  I loved him on Loveline and then followed him over to the addict specialist show. 

And I'd maybe up the age range a bit.  I'm 36 and my brother is 41 and we were both kinda "huh?" on her with the exception of Witch Mountain. 

[bosawks]

59 minutes ago, KungFuBunny said:

To be fair the Blue Bunny was in Kim’s custody until the reunion. So the questions asked/answered should have been:

Was the Blue Bunny locked in the Beverly Hilton bathroom flushing mysterious items down the toilet?

Did the Blue Bunny kick a cop in the nuts?

Did the Blue Bunny steal stickers and other toys from Target?

Most important…is this your mugshot (in this case your BugsShot)

 

If that's the mugshot then I am convinced that the bunny kicked the cop in the nuts.

[motorcitymom65]

1 minute ago, diadochokinesis said:

Oh, Dr. Drew...  I have conflicted opinions on him.  I think he is a great physician and addict specialist but damn, he's a famewhore too.  I loved him on Loveline and then followed him over to the addict specialist show. 

And I'd maybe up the age range a bit.  I'm 36 and my brother is 41 and we were both kinda "huh?" on her with the exception of Witch Mountain. 

I am over 50 and I had no idea who she was. Never saw any of her stuff as a kid. My children certainly have zero idea who she is (or any of others on the show). 

[Jamie Satyr]

31 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

On the second viewing, it was worse than seeing it the first time.  Rinna did look desperate and tawdry during her table dance on the boat.  How I wish the boat would have hit a huge wave or something, and Rinna would have lost her balance and gone ass over head to the deck!!  

I simply love that word "tawdry"...perfect description!!  :-)

Only Rinna and her sycophants would "laud" that type of behavior without being under the influence; watching it or doing it! Who are they kidding? So she cleaned up her pill bag for TV! ;-(

[Yours Truly]

33 minutes ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Why all the sudden hate about Eileen and her Soap career? Because Kim said it? Kim has on more than one occassion mocked Eileen for being on a soap. Like that fact alone means that she is somehow not worthy or that her opinion matters less. Does anyone think that is OK?  I don't recall Eileen ever mocking Kim's past career, or even any of her more recent scrapes with the law  or her irresponsible behavior as a pet owner. She only seems to address specific situations where Kim behaves like a crazy loon, she doesn't go after her personal and professional life choices (such as they are). How does any of that get to a place where Eileen is suddenly a complete and total loser because her career has consisted for a long period of time appearing in a very competitive industry that she seems to be good at, loves, and finds fulfilling? I just hate that someone with the recent history of a Kim Richards - of making incredibly irresponsible and harmful decisions that have hurt her family and could have had serious repercussions for others - gets to mock someone else for the longevity and success of their career and it is just an OK thing to do. She should be shamed, IMO. 

To me she's a loser cause of her behavior. Backing Rinna even when she's wrong and then doubles down and joins in on the bad behavior.

The Soap stuff is fun to point out but the loser status rides mainly on her ridiculous ride or die antics and useless interpretations of the actions of those around her. LOL.

[Jamie Satyr]

1 minute ago, Yours Truly said:

To me she's a loser cause of her behavior. Backing Rinna even when she's wrong and then doubles down and joins in on the bad behavior.

The Soap stuff is fun to point out but the loser status rides mainly on her ridiculous ride or die antics and useless interpretations of the actions of those around her. LOL.

Amen & hallelujah to that! Eileen's turned into the biggest "enabler" on the show! I guess it serves 2 purposes; she can be the supportive friend of Rinna's and remain relevant and at the same time stay out of the line of fire when Lisa's aiming her guns elsewhere! ;-)

[hecate2909]

I liked Dorit "Going through different people" comment.

Take accountability for her part whilst pointing out she's not the only one who fed this SL!

[Jel]

I think Kim is a little delusional and judgy about her acting career vs. Eileen's, and I think viewers are a little judgy about Kim's acting career. That's the career that most people mock I think.

Posters here have defended the soap opera as a start to a great film career, but even in that defense there's the underlying assumption that film career > soap career, since one is the entree into the other.  Rightly or wrongly, that's how most people see it.  

[angelamh66]

I haven't made it through all the comments so I am sorry if someone already said this.... but Kyle needs to get a clue. Enabling isn't limited to handing someone a drink. It also encompasses making excuses for an addict's sh&tty behavior and allowing the addict to get by with no accountability. So frustrating.  And she continues to enable Kim (even if Kim is currently sober she is still an addict) by not making her accountable. I honestly think that is LisaR's biggest beef with Kim - the total lack of accountability. It certainly would be mine if I had to spend one minute around that creature. 

[Tara Ariano]

In case you missed it, here's the Previously.TV post on the episode!

The Real Housewives Of Beverly Hills 'Glomps' It All Together In Part 3 Of The Reunion

A furious death rattle of an episode, in which everyone's doing The Most.

[Christi]

I never understood the Xanax in a smoothie thing...i mean, just take a Xanax already.  I'm sure it doesn't really work in a smoothie, wouldn't dissolve very fast and probably get stuck in the straw.  Weird...its not like it's an illegal drug...sheesh

Bunny Gate was so calculated and weird with Kim.

I loved watching Kyle WTF STOP TALKING look I'm sure she has with Kim daily

[HunterHunted]

20 minutes ago, Jel said:

I think Kim is a little delusional and judgy about her acting career vs. Eileen's, and I think viewers are a little judgy about Kim's acting career. That's the career that most people mock I think.

Posters here have defended the soap opera as a start to a great film career, but even in that defense there's the underlying assumption that film career > soap career, since one is the entree into the other.  Rightly or wrongly, that's how most people see it.  

I think some of the snobbery about soap careers is that you have opportunity to make way more money with a lot less work in film and prime time tv. Additionally, soap work often leaves an actor too busy to audition or pursue other acting work.

[hecate2909]

What a chitty end to a crappy season!

[CatMomma]

46 minutes ago, diadochokinesis said:

And I'd maybe up the age range a bit.  I'm 36 and my brother is 41 and we were both kinda "huh?" on her with the exception of Witch Mountain. 

Me too. The name meant nothing, but I recognized her immediately. Same with Eileen.  

[hecate2909]

2 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

I think some of the snobbery about soap careers is that you have opportunity to make way more money with a lot less work in film and prime time tv. Additionally, soap work often leaves an actor too busy to audition or pursue other acting work.

Some soap actors are contractually obligated, it's a lot easier these days where they may keep your spot open if you are popular with the audience.

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, poeticlicensed said:

Did I miss something? Why is Kim on the show at all, much less the reunion? Didn't Andy get on TV last year and say that Kim was off the show because of her problems? Frankly Kim should be kissing Rinna's ass for making her relevant this season so she could get back on the show. And likewise, Rinna should be kissing Kim's ass for giving her a storyline. I cannot stand either of them. And I almost fell out of my chair when Kim dissed Eileen's career as a soap actress. I find Eileen boring, but she has been a working actress for decades. Yes, Kim, decades, you cannot say the same. Even the highlight of your career was a kid's movie. I mean she makes it sound like she had a starring role in Citizen Kane. I think that Eileen decided the soap life was for her because it allowed her to have a normal family life, with an 8-5 job and no traveling. Most actors have to travel extensively and be away for months on end. Plus there is the security of a steady paycheck. Not something she should be disparaged for. 

Kyle - you don't get to defend, cover and enable  your sister and then turn around and object to others who diss you because of your sister. You can't have it both ways. 

Dorit is so dumb. Yes, Rinna was such an asshole lobbing the possibility of a cocaine dinner party at you, but having babies in the house isn't proof that it didn't happen. Lots' of people use drugs with their children in the home. Lots. All you needed to say was no it didn't happen. Stop hiding behind your children. 

Eden was this season's throwaway. 

It was hysterical to watch all the ladies make a last ditch attempt to secure the next season. Cue the screaming. 

I don't understand Dorit's logic. How does having had 2 children come out of the birth canal prevent you from sticking a straw up your nose.

For someone so afraid of the damaging repercussions why do you keep bringing up your kids. If you're going to be mad at Rinna then you need to be equally mad at Bravo/Production/Editing - they filmed it and chose to air it - had they not shown this scene in Hong Kong who would have ever heard the question?

I was waiting for Dorit to quote Whitney: Crack is whack...show me the receipts.

[hecate2909]

Just now, KungFuBunny said:

I don't understand Dorit's logic. How does having had 2 children come out of the birth canal prevent you from sticking a straw up your nose.

For someone so afraid of the damaging repercussions why do you keep bringing up your kids. If you're going to be mad at Rinna then you need to be equally mad at Bravo/Production/Editing - they filmed it and chose to air it - had they not shown this scene in Hong Kong who would have ever heard the question?

I was waiting for Dorit to quote Whitney: Crack is whack...show me the receipts.

Maybe she's still pumping?

[Dutchgirl]

1 minute ago, HunterHunted said:

I think some of the snobbery about soap careers is that you have opportunity to make way more money with a lot less work in film and prime time tv. Additionally, soap work often leaves an actor too busy to audition or pursue other acting work.

 

Soaps are considered the fast food of acting. A lot of actors start off in soaps, live theater and commercials and cycle thru that stage of their career to make it in feature movies. Eileen should be proud of her career, not dwell on something that was said 2 years ago and 99% of us didn't remember or hear. Just comes off as insecure.

[motorcitymom65]

32 minutes ago, angelamh66 said:

I haven't made it through all the comments so I am sorry if someone already said this.... but Kyle needs to get a clue. Enabling isn't limited to handing someone a drink. It also encompasses making excuses for an addict's sh&tty behavior and allowing the addict to get by with no accountability. So frustrating.  And she continues to enable Kim (even if Kim is currently sober she is still an addict) by not making her accountable. I honestly think that is LisaR's biggest beef with Kim - the total lack of accountability. It certainly would be mine if I had to spend one minute around that creature. 

I think the problem is that Kyle has to be very careful about what she says to the public about this issue. She cannot name the ways in which she has distanced herself at times or tried to hold Kim accountable. She was (and sometimes still is) blamed either way that she plays this deal, and at the end of the day she is terrified of sending Kim into a relapse or of taking the wrath from her family. She is also always trying to protect Kim's kids. 

7 minutes ago, HunterHunted said:

I think some of the snobbery about soap careers is that you have opportunity to make way more money with a lot less work in film and prime time tv. Additionally, soap work often leaves an actor too busy to audition or pursue other acting work.

Maybe, but since Kim appears to have no career at this point, seems strange for her to criticize someone with a 30+ year successful career. Now in both soaps and working the prime time gigs. 

[CatMomma]

3 minutes ago, Dutchgirl said:

Soaps are considered the fast food of acting. A lot of actors start off in soaps, live theater and commercials and cycle thru that stage of their career to make it in feature movies. Eileen should be proud of her career, not dwell on something that was said 2 years ago and 99% of us didn't remember or hear. Just comes off as insecure.

Eileen? Dwell on something? Pshaw! 

[gingerella]

47 minutes ago, angelamh66 said:

I haven't made it through all the comments so I am sorry if someone already said this.... but Kyle needs to get a clue. Enabling isn't limited to handing someone a drink. It also encompasses making excuses for an addict's sh&tty behavior and allowing the addict to get by with no accountability. So frustrating.  And she continues to enable Kim (even if Kim is currently sober she is still an addict) by not making her accountable. I honestly think that is LisaR's biggest beef with Kim - the total lack of accountability. It certainly would be mine if I had to spend one minute around that creature. 

^^This times a bazillion^^

Firstly, why the fuck do we still have to be subjected to Kim Richards being on this damn show? She was a heinous mess and this show does not do her life any favors other than line her bank account with more cash so she can live in her fantasy world where she is "a stah!"  Secondly, I do think the biggest issue LR has with her, and which I share, is that even now, KR has never taken any personal responsibility about what a fucking asshole she was/is. Even during the limited time she was on camera this season and even during the limited time she was on the reunion this season, she is a neverending stream of deflecting blame on to anyone and everyone other than herself. I mean isn't one of the biggest steps of AA to make amends and apologize to everyone you've wronged or hurt while using?  If just once, she said to Rinna and all the Ho's, "I am an alcoholic and I want to say to you all publically, that I take responsibility for my actions while I was using, and I'm very sorry for any and everything I did and said during that time...I am trying to change and I ask for your forgiveness..." I think first of all, everyone would give her a fucking pass and forgive her, but more importantly, it would show she was trying to change. I personally think she acts like she's still using, because it's always someone else's fault, never Kim's. But she cant do it, she can literally never take responsibility for her past actions, which to me is a big ol red flag that either she's not 'recovered' and is still using, or she has a personality disorder that is also a big issue and not being taken care of.

Oh, and Kyle, yeah, YOU ARE AN ENABLER.

Lastly, I just don't get all the Rinna/Eileen hate. I liked Rinna up until this season when she seems to lie blatantly and that annoys the fuck out of me. Eileen, she seems like a very cool person to be honest. No BS. As for the rest? Why no outrage at what a fucking shit stirrer Vanderpump is? Why no outrage over Kyle being a bitchy mean girl who loves to see others get ganged up on but is too meek to do her own dirty work? Her face literally lights up with a nasty smirk when someone else is taking the heat. These bitches are...well, bitches. This show is just not fun anymore. I want my old show back, with glam over the top house and jewelry porn. If I wanted to watch a bunch of over the hill biddies in a neverending bitchfest, each and every episode, I'd just fly back to Jersey and sit in on my aunt's canasta game at the pool club...

Edited April 26, 2017 by gingerella

[Kallee]

3 hours ago, Blondie said:

First, there was an article about fashion designers getting paid by actors to have their children walk the runway.  Win Win for everyone.  I wish I had the link, but I am unprepared as I write this.  The article came out when the Hadid girls got their start and it featured younger children but I feel it's the same for the teenagers.  

Rinna is worthless.  She is a liar, two faced, and not all that smart.  She brought up the baggie and xanax, she brought up the lip implants, she laughed at the panties yet when someone else dares to mention it she's all hurt and indignant.  I'm not buying it.

Erika can just sit down and shut up.  I am so tired o pantygate.  For heavens sake, if any normal person had flashed someone else they would be mortified.  She should be embarrassed at her self, and not other peoples reaction to it.  Grow up woman. 

Eileen is just a prop for Rinna.  She adds nothing to the show.  Absolutely nothing. 

Lisa V has really backed away from the show.  As said earlier I think she is only on to promote her causes.  did anyone else notice the look on her face when Kyle said she and Kim had been on the show since the beginning? 

Kyle stays the same year after year.

This may not be a popular opinion, however, I feel Dorit is an extremely intelligent person.  She is multilingual which is no small feat, and  seems to choose her words very carefully.    Watch out for her.  Once she gets her feet under her she'll be a tiger.
 

TOTALLY agree with your comments about Rinna the b, NO class Erica, and Eileen, the ZERO. IMO, Dorit and LVP are very intelligent.

[WireWrap]

1 hour ago, Martinigirl said:

Did they show where Eileen says to Kim "Have you seen your face?".  Did I miss it? 

Yes, they did and Kim admitted that she is "overly dramatic"!  At least Kim admits it, whereas Eileen denies she uses her soap actress reaction faces. LOL

[Kallee]

3 hours ago, escape said:

I don't see ever LVP calling Dorit or PK out or vice versa.   In fact, she was actually laughing at Erika's expense when PK and Ken were making rude comments about her.

LOVE the fact that LVP was laughing!!!

[dosodog]

5 hours ago, thesupremediva1 said:

 

The emperor has no clothes and these women had no story lines this season. I'm just annoyed that in all this tomfoolery, people are discussing Xanax like it's some horrible drug. 

It's not. When used under supervision.  It's a great drug. 

What I loved about xanax was that it wasn't a drug you had to take on a schedule. You could take it when you needed it.  It completely takes the edge off and helps people to be able to participate in life and cope with debilitating anxiety.

Rinna is, imo, glamorizing it.  That's my problem with it.  It's a really easy drug to become addicted to.  Constantly minimizing it as Rinna does sends the wrong message.

4 hours ago, AndySmith said:

You'd be surprised...there are people who still watch soaps and who still lead active, healthy social lives. Quite a few of them are on PTV as well.

Passions.

Tabitha and Timmy and Martimmys.

That was a soap opera.

[Martinigirl]

6 minutes ago, gingerella said:

^^This times a bazillion^^

Firstly, why the fuck do we still have to be subjected to Kim Richards being on this damn show? She was a heinous mess and this show does not do her life any favors other than line her bank account with more cash so she can live in her fantasy world where she is "a stah!"  Secondly, I do think the biggest issue LR has with her, and which I share, is that even now, KR has never taken any personal responsibility about what a fucking asshole she was/is. Even during the limited time she was on camera this season and even during the limited time she was on the reunion this season, she is a neverending stream of deflecting blame on to anyone and everyone other than herself. If just once, she said to Rinna and all the Ho's, "I am an alcoholic and I want to say to you all publically, that I take responsibility for my actions while I was using, and I'm very sorry for any and everything I did and said during that time...I am trying to change and I ask for your forgiveness..." I think first of all, everyone would give her a fucking pass and forgive her, but more importantly, it would show she was trying to change. I personally think she acts like she's still using, because it's always someone else's fault, ever Kim's. But she cant do it, she can literally never take responsibility for her past actions, which to me is a big ol red flag that either she's not 'recovered' and is still using, or she has a personality disorder that is also a big issue and not being taken care of.

Oh, and Kyle, yeah, YOU ARE AN ENABLER.

Lastly, I just don't get all the Rinna/Eileen hate. I liked Rinna up until this season when she seems to lie blatantly and that annoys the fuck out of me. Eileen, she seems like a very cool person to be honest. No BS. As for the rest? Why no outrage at what a fucking shit stirrer Vanderpump is? Why no outrage over Kyle being a bitchy mean girl who loves to see others get ganged up on but is too meek to do her own dirty work? Her face literally lights up with a nasty smirk when someone else is taking the heat. These bitches are...well, bitches. This show is just not fun anymore. I want my old show back, with glam over the top house and jewelry porn. If I wanted to watch a bunch of over the hill biddies in a neverending bitchfest, each and every episode, I'd just fly back to Jersey and sit in on my aunt's canasta game at the pool club...

 

6 minutes ago, gingerella said:

^^This times a bazillion^^

Firstly, why the fuck do we still have to be subjected to Kim Richards being on this damn show? She was a heinous mess and this show does not do her life any favors other than line her bank account with more cash so she can live in her fantasy world where she is "a stah!"  Secondly, I do think the biggest issue LR has with her, and which I share, is that even now, KR has never taken any personal responsibility about what a fucking asshole she was/is. Even during the limited time she was on camera this season and even during the limited time she was on the reunion this season, she is a neverending stream of deflecting blame on to anyone and everyone other than herself. If just once, she said to Rinna and all the Ho's, "I am an alcoholic and I want to say to you all publically, that I take responsibility for my actions while I was using, and I'm very sorry for any and everything I did and said during that time...I am trying to change and I ask for your forgiveness..." I think first of all, everyone would give her a fucking pass and forgive her, but more importantly, it would show she was trying to change. I personally think she acts like she's still using, because it's always someone else's fault, ever Kim's. But she cant do it, she can literally never take responsibility for her past actions, which to me is a big ol red flag that either she's not 'recovered' and is still using, or she has a personality disorder that is also a big issue and not being taken care of.

Oh, and Kyle, yeah, YOU ARE AN ENABLER.

Lastly, I just don't get all the Rinna/Eileen hate. I liked Rinna up until this season when she seems to lie blatantly and that annoys the fuck out of me. Eileen, she seems like a very cool person to be honest. No BS. As for the rest? Why no outrage at what a fucking shit stirrer Vanderpump is? Why no outrage over Kyle being a bitchy mean girl who loves to see others get ganged up on but is too meek to do her own dirty work? Her face literally lights up with a nasty smirk when someone else is taking the heat. These bitches are...well, bitches. This show is just not fun anymore. I want my old show back, with glam over the top house and jewelry porn. If I wanted to watch a bunch of over the hill biddies in a neverending bitchfest, each and every episode, I'd just fly back to Jersey and sit in on my aunt's canasta game at the pool club...

LOL @ aunt's canasta game at the pool club! hahahaha!!!

Sorry, not sure why it posted twice?

Edited April 26, 2017 by Martinigirl

[AndySmith]

4 hours ago, hecate2909 said:

I was referring to the real elephant in the room!

Elephants, bunnies, and ponies, oh my...

[CatMomma]

4 minutes ago, gingerella said:

I honestly think that is LisaR's biggest beef with Kim - the total lack of accountability. It certainly would be mine if I had to spend one minute around that creature. 

As opposed to Rinna's "I don't remember saying that and Eden can take the heat" accountability?

Or, "I brought of Munchausen, but my hairdresser said it first. Then, LVP made me say it, or brought it up, or something.... cuz she's manipulative! Kyle! How can you be friends with her?????"

Or, "I never said you were doing cocaine, Dorit! I just said that everybody getting up from the table at the same time looked like you were doing coke! What?"

[Martinigirl]

Holy shitballs!!! Did anyone was see the twitter fight between Rinna and Dorit? WOW! Looks like Rinna wasn't lying about the cocaine use at the dinner party

[hecate2909]

Just now, AndySmith said:

Elephants, bunnies, and ponies, oh my...

I feel like I may have followed this yellow brick road far enough.

[AndySmith]

4 hours ago, motorcitymom65 said:

Yes, and it is very perplexing.  Apparently, when someone that is liked (IMO the criteria for this is that they are supported by LVP) does something nefarious it is probably producer induced, and therefore they certainly cannot be blamed. If someone that is not well liked does something (IMO opinion someone that LVP doesn't like) there is not a producer in sight and they are just doing what comes naturally and can reap all the blame. Cracks me up. If the belief is that producers are all over the place "inducing" these ladies to say things, then how can any of them ever be held accountable for anything? If you apply it in one instance, you would have to apply it to all. Except that hypocrisy abounds. 

This. So much this.

[NeverLate]

7 minutes ago, CatMomma said:

As opposed to Rinna's "I don't remember saying that and Eden can take the heat" accountability?

Or, "I brought of Munchausen, but my hairdresser said it first. Then, LVP made me say it, or brought it up, or something.... cuz she's manipulative! Kyle! How can you be friends with her?????"

Or, "I never said you were doing cocaine, Dorit! I just said that everybody getting up from the table at the same time looked like you were doing coke! What?"

LOL, okay this made me laugh, you have Rinna down to a T

[Mindthinkr]

6 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Holy shitballs!!! Did anyone was see the twitter fight between Rinna and Dorit? WOW! Looks like Rinna wasn't lying about the cocaine use at the dinner party

Do tell

[hecate2909]

6 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Holy shitballs!!! Did anyone was see the twitter fight between Rinna and Dorit? WOW! Looks like Rinna wasn't lying about the cocaine use at the dinner party

I wouldn't believe Rinna if she passed a lie detector had her evidence tested by the feds or swore on a bible or her kids lives!

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[AndySmith]

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I laughed that her eyelash was so poorly glued on, look at all that gap.

Maybe she did that in case LVP asked for her lashes again, along with the last shred of her dignity.

[NeverLate]

3 minutes ago, hecate2909 said:

I wouldn't believe Rinna if she passed a lie detector had her Evidence tested by the feds or swore on a bible or her kids lives!

She posted the definition of induce..it wasn't to Rinna though. Dorit is very funny..

[CatMomma]

11 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Holy shitballs!!! Did anyone was see the twitter fight between Rinna and Dorit? WOW! Looks like Rinna wasn't lying about the cocaine use at the dinner party

I missed it. Do you have a link?  I checked out both women's twitter and have no idea what you are talking about.

[hecate2909]

6 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

Maybe she did that in case LVP asked for her lashes again, along with the last shred of her dignity.

She already sold it on QVC along with her Fuck you button!

[AndySmith]

1 hour ago, Martinigirl said:

I don't see her being overly dramatic either. I actually enjoy her talking head shots. (with the exception of the "write it down, tear it up). I think Kim and most likely the rest hate that LisaR and Eileen have a true friendship. 

Yeah, I don't see it that much this year. I mean, first people complain she had such a lack of story this year and was more boring than beige to the point she was almost MIA this year, now she is a shit-stirring drama queen who manipulated Rinna.