S07.E19: Reunion Part 1

[Martinigirl]

It certainly appears that he wants to be one of the HW's (imo)

Edited April 14, 2017 by Martinigirl

[jaync]

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Erika herself said that she left her 3 y.o. son to move away and pursue a career.

Yep, it came straight from her XXX$pensive piehole. And she only says important shit, ya know.

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Maybe it would have been nice this season if Mr. Girardi actually was gracious enough to show up to an event - like the finale party to actually see how he would interact with his wife. 

What, their annual lunch date isn't enough?

[zoeysmom]

15 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

It certainly appears that he wants to be one of the HW's (imo)

Same could be said for Ken and Mauricio certainly does a fair amount of business promoting on the show.  I like having the men in the scenes, they seem for the most part when together to have fun.  The first season they had a scene with the husbands (sans Russell and Kelsey) playing poker while the women were doing some group activity.  I like the vacation in Mexico and wished Harry and Vince were there.  PK did admit that he was too involved this year.  So he knows going forward to dial it back.  I do feel for the married ladies who husbands won't commit to filming because I think it changes their personality to a certain degree.  I also really liked Vincent hosting two parties for the ladies.    

[CaughtOnTape]

7 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Same could be said for Ken and Mauricio certainly does a fair amount of business promoting on the show.  I like having the men in the scenes, they seem for the most part when together to have fun.  The first season they had a scene with the husbands (sans Russell and Kelsey) playing poker while the women were doing some group activity.  I like the vacation in Mexico and wished Harry and Vince were there.  PK did admit that he was too involved this year.  So he knows going forward to dial it back.  I do feel for the married ladies who husbands won't commit to filming because I think it changes their personality to a certain degree.  I also really liked Vincent hosting two parties for the ladies.    

Vince peeking through the garage window while Brandi and Kyle were going off was among one of the funniest moments of this franchise ever.

I guess I don't care if the men decide they wanna be involved.  The show is called The Real HouseWIVES and so I appreciate the fact that (more than other franchises) most of these ladies have solid marriages that are shown.  I mean, PK didn't seem to insert himself into anything from where I sat, but even if he did, so what?  If someone was losing it on me (or rather three people were attacking me like dogs with a bone) and my husband saw that I would wholeheartedly expect him to step in or at least stand behind me to let me know I wasn't alone, which is all it seemed he was doing for Dorit until Erika opened her big mouth and pulled him into it.  Not to mention, HE was also being destroyed by Eileen, Rinna and Erika, should he not have defended himself?

So I guess my question is, for those of you criticizing how much he was involved, what would you have had him do during that argument with Erika that he was aware was happening?  Stand there and let it happen?  Not say a word?  Because I suspect had that happened, some of the posts on this board would take on a tone of "I'd kill my husband if he ever watched me get drilled like that and didn't do anything."

Edited April 14, 2017 by CaughtOnTape

[AndySmith]

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It certainly appears that he wants to be one of the HW's (imo)

Keep that reality TV career of his going, at any rate...maybe he can try and transfer to the Celebrity Apprentice US?

[Martinigirl]

1 minute ago, AndySmith said:

Keep that reality TV career of his going, at any rate...maybe he can try and transfer to the Celebrity Apprentice US?

Nooooooooooo!!!!

[thefog]

IF Dorit is asked to come back and that is a BIG IF at this point, PK needs to buddy up with Tom, Harry, Vinny - get a life of his own and stay out of the women's business.  As is, Dorit has a big credibility issue (that of a pampered airhead) and having PK fight her battles on the show is not helping her.

And if PK is so thirsty to be a Housewife - there should be a storyline regarding his shady business dealings,  his bankruptcy.

[Martinigirl]

4 minutes ago, CaughtOnTape said:

Vince peeking through the garage window while Brandi and Kyle were going off was among one of the funniest moments of this franchise ever.

I guess I don't care if the men decide they wanna be involved.  The show is called The Real HouseWIVES and so I appreciate the fact that (more than other franchises) most of these ladies have solid marriages that are shown.  I mean, PK didn't seem to insert himself into anything from where I sat, but even if he did, so what?  If someone was losing it on me (or rather three people were attacking me like dogs with a bone) and my husband saw that I would wholeheartedly expect him to step in or at least stand behind me to let me know I wasn't alone, which is all it seemed he was doing for Dorit until Erika opened her big mouth and pulled him into it.  Not to mention, HE was also being destroyed by Eileen, Rinna and Erika, should he not have defended himself?

So I guess my question is, for those of you criticizing how much he was involved, what would you have had him do during that argument with Erika that he was aware was happening?  Stand there and let it happen?  Not say a word?  Because I suspect had that happened, some of the posts on this board would take on a tone of "I'd kill my husband if he ever watched me get drilled like that and didn't do anything."

I'm fine with the husbands being on the show. I actually enjoy the guys appearances. My point - IF they are going to be on the show we have every right to talk about them. Not just the housewives.

[AndySmith]

As much as I hate to say it, I think Dorit might be safe for next season. The only one who might be at risk is Eileen.

[Martinigirl]

OMG! Is Eden coming back?

[Jamie Satyr]

5 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

I'm fine with the husbands being on the show. I actually enjoy the guys appearances. My point - IF they are going to be on the show we have every right to talk about them. Not just the housewives.

LVP already went too far early on; something about Eileen looking for Vinnie and Lisa saying "he's probably over there with his hand up someone's skirt!" I just wouldn't put up with that kind of BS! It's not funny and saying it's British humor wouldn't appease me! How would she like Eileen saying something like that about KEN in mixed company? I don't think LVP'd appreciate it from someone she's obviously at odds with at this time! ;-)

Edited April 14, 2017 by Jamie Satyr
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[AndySmith]

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OMG! Is Eden coming back?

Well, I didn't count Eden since she isn't a full time HW, she is just a "Friend of". But the odds aren't in her favor anyway. Historically, someone who starts out as a "Friend of" doesn't become a full time HW. I think it has only happened one time in the whole franchise, with Brandi. And I'd be really, really shocked if Eden became the second person who was able to pull that off.

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How would she like Eilene saying something like that about KEN in mixed company? I don't think LVP'd appreciate it from someone she's obviously at odds with at this time! ;-)

She'd laugh it off...while plotting her long term revenge in her head, with a smile ;)

Edited April 14, 2017 by AndySmith

[Martinigirl]

Whew!

4 minutes ago, Jamie Satyr said:

LVP already went too far early on; something about Eileen looking for Vinnie and Lisa saying "he's probably over there with his hand up someone's skirt!" I just wouldn't put up with that kind of BS! It's not funny and saying it's British humor wouldn't appease me! How would she like Eileen saying something like that about KEN in mixed company? I don't think LVP'd appreciate it from someone she's obviously at odds with at this time! ;-)

Eileen should have simply asked if it was Pandora's skirt and walked away. 

[zoeysmom]

8 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Whew!

Eileen should have simply asked if it was Pandora's skirt and walked away. 

So that would make Vinnie looking up a married woman's skirt?  Don't see the burn in that one other than to Vinnie.

Edited April 14, 2017 by zoeysmom

[Martinigirl]

8 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

So that would make Vinnie looking up a married woman's skirt?  Don't see the burn in that one other than to Vinnie.

It wasn't a burn...It was a joke. :)

[RHJunkie]

37 minutes ago, zoeysmom said:

Same could be said for Ken and Mauricio certainly does a fair amount of business promoting on the show.  I like having the men in the scenes, they seem for the most part when together to have fun.  The first season they had a scene with the husbands (sans Russell and Kelsey) playing poker while the women were doing some group activity.  I like the vacation in Mexico and wished Harry and Vince were there.  PK did admit that he was too involved this year.  So he knows going forward to dial it back.  I do feel for the married ladies who husbands won't commit to filming because I think it changes their personality to a certain degree.  I also really liked Vincent hosting two parties for the ladies.    

I really the scenes with the husbands as well...particularly when they're hanging out together. It's a bit refreshing to see that despite whatever issues the wives are dealing with among themselves that it doesn't bleed into the men's interactions with one another. 

Vincent hosted two events? There was the casino night...what was the other? That's the only event I can recall that involved Eileen as host. 

[RHJunkie]

19 hours ago, dosodog said:

Something occurred to me.  During the reunion, LVP tried to make the point that Ericka could be confusing and tried to bring up Ericka's use of the c word and c word neckkace.  Ericka interrupted her and told her there was no confusion, separate stage persona from real life.

Except. .... 

I remember the c word conversation.  She wasn't on stage, she was on the bus before or after her performance.  Interacting with the other housewives in what appeared not to be a performance, but just Ericka hanging with the ladies. 

So it was Ericka Giardi and not Ericka Jayne who was stating her love and use for the c word.  Then you had Kathryn asking her not to use the c word and Ericka telling her to deal with it.  She would use the word however and whenever she felt.

Ericka's narrative is, confusing.

I freely admit I'm paraphrasing.   Some details could be wrong.

Sometimes I feel like the Glam Squad got just as much if not more airtime than PK.

To be honest, the only time I know I'm seeing Erika G. on my screen is when she's with her husband. Does Erika G. show up to a party in a t-shirt dress? Does Erika G. have banter that includes calling people bitches? Does Erika G. throw shade at the other women for their looks/fashion? When she describes Erika G. as a conservative and personal person, a large chunk of what we see on TV is not that person unless she's upset. Just my perception, but I feel like the HW show is just an extension Erika J. That is the product she came to sell anyway - she came to sell her music career and she's doing it by being the 'fabulous, snarky fashionista who doesn't give any fucks about anything' but when things become challenging in navigating relationships and conversations, she all of a sudden becomes Erika G. I don't necessarily think that Erika is intentionally using each persona when it suits her, but I do think that the personas aren't as separate from one another as she thinks. 

[Normades]

33 minutes ago, Jamie Satyr said:

LVP already went too far early on; something about Eileen looking for Vinnie and Lisa saying "he's probably over there with his hand up someone's skirt!" I just wouldn't put up with that kind of BS! It's not funny and saying it's British humor wouldn't appease me! How would she like Eileen saying something like that about KEN in mixed company? I don't think LVP'd appreciate it from someone she's obviously at odds with at this time! ;-)

I think LVP would be fine with it and hit a zinger right back.  She even said that was one of the things she liked about Rinna.  Personally, I would have asked LVP if she was jealous and tell her I'd see if I could arrange for him to see her next.  She seems to respect people who can take a jab and send it right back at her rather than those who take things too seriously.  That's my impression.

Also, as far as PK being in the conversation, especially at the last party and the reunion.  Once he, his wife, and the guests in his home have been accused of using drugs with his small children there, the man has every right to defend himself.  How would Tom or ErICKa have liked that kind of allegation?

[chewycandy]

50 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

As much as I hate to say it, I think Dorit might be safe for next season. The only one who might be at risk is Eileen.

Agreed.

[Martinigirl]

16 minutes ago, Normades said:

I think LVP would be fine with it and hit a zinger right back.  She even said that was one of the things she liked about Rinna.  Personally, I would have asked LVP if she was jealous and tell her I'd see if I could arrange for him to see her next.  She seems to respect people who can take a jab and send it right back at her rather than those who take things too seriously.  That's my impression.

Also, as far as PK being in the conversation, especially at the last party and the reunion.  Once he, his wife, and the guests in his home have been accused of using drugs with his small children there, the man has every right to defend himself.  How would Tom or ErICKa have liked that kind of allegation?

You may be right...Dorit did say "her nervousness tends to give her a runny nose" 

[zoeysmom]

51 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

I really the scenes with the husbands as well...particularly when they're hanging out together. It's a bit refreshing to see that despite whatever issues the wives are dealing with among themselves that it doesn't bleed into the men's interactions with one another. 

Vincent hosted two events? There was the casino night...what was the other? That's the only event I can recall that involved Eileen as host. 

He did the read with his script about the gambler, with Kyle, Rinna, LVP and Kim.  This was after Poker Night and all seemed to get on well.  He also had his brother there and Kim and the guys had a nice talk about her acting career.  Vince is a good host and fun.

[Normades]

22 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

You may be right...Dorit did say "her nervousness tends to give her a runny nose" 

Not sure what this means.

[AndySmith]

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You may be right...Dorit did say "her nervousness tends to give her a runny nose" 

Snort!

[dosodog]

1 hour ago, zoeysmom said:

Same could be said for Ken and Mauricio certainly does a fair amount of business promoting on the show.  I like having the men in the scenes, they seem for the most part when together to have fun.  The first season they had a scene with the husbands (sans Russell and Kelsey) playing poker while the women were doing some group activity.  I like the vacation in Mexico and wished Harry and Vince were there.  PK did admit that he was too involved this year.  So he knows going forward to dial it back.  I do feel for the married ladies who husbands won't commit to filming because I think it changes their personality to a certain degree.  I also really liked Vincent hosting two parties for the ladies.    

Power watched all the seasons of thr RHOC this winter.  It's the only one I've seen from its roots.  The family interaction was the best part for me.  I enjoyed the show more when the families were included than when it's all about the wives and their drama with each other.

And I firmly blame Tamra for the change in the franchise.  Okay.  Maybe it was that Teresa person and flipping over a table. I don't know which came first.  But as of now, Tamra gets my blame. 

39 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

You may be right...Dorit did say "her nervousness tends to give her a runny nose" 

Wait!  I missed that.  When did she say that? 

[Martinigirl]

Buddah Birthday Bash

[Normades]

59 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

1 hour ago, Normades said:

I think LVP would be fine with it and hit a zinger right back.  She even said that was one of the things she liked about Rinna.  Personally, I would have asked LVP if she was jealous and tell her I'd see if I could arrange for him to see her next.  She seems to respect people who can take a jab and send it right back at her rather than those who take things too seriously.  That's my impression.

Also, as far as PK being in the conversation, especially at the last party and the reunion.  Once he, his wife, and the guests in his home have been accused of using drugs with his small children there, the man has every right to defend himself.  How would Tom or ErICKa have liked that kind of allegation?

You may be right...Dorit did say "her nervousness tends to give her a runny nose" 

Okay, I still don't get it.  What may I be right about?  And seriously, because someone gets a runny nose once in a while they are on drugs? I guess I'm in trouble cause once in a while I get a runny nose.  How about if someone is hungry?  Do they get accused of smoking weed?  This is just not cool to me.  Should we decide that Tom must be physically abusive to ErICKa because of the rude and dismissive way he treated her?  This whole accusation started because according to Rinna she was mad that Dorit accused her of being a drug addict ---- which Dorit did not do.  Rinna started the whole suggestion with her baggie of pills.  Seems to me Rinna just wanted a storyline and she's just horrible to take things to such a level with her accusation.

[Martinigirl]

Ummm...now you are just putting words in my mouth.  I didn't say she she had a drug problem. Just like Dorit never said Rinna had a Xanax problem

Edited April 14, 2017 by Martinigirl

[AndySmith]

Actually, people were making jokes about PK and Dorit (PK more) being on coke long before Rinna's accusation aired...

[Happy Camper]

5 hours ago, AndySmith said:

I can imagine him and Dorit, sitting at the bar in their home and between lines of coke

I cannot take anyone seriously who takes Rinna at her word and repeats such unfounded, bullshit gossip. The entire "Were people doing coke?" is in the same category as "Harry is gay" "Harry is cheating"  rumour mill. Just because someone says it makes it fact?

If Rinna carries credibility, then you must buy into her story that she NEVER once stated that Kim was "thisclosetodeath". 

[Jamie Satyr]

2 minutes ago, AndySmith said:

Actually, people were making jokes about PK and Dorit (PK more) being on coke long before Rinna's accusation aired...

It just wasn't a funny comment and if serious, the apology would fall on deaf ears if I were involved! Rinna's walking around with a bag of pills and she takes offense at being made a joke? It's sorta like running around without underwear and taking offense if someone looks; OH THAT"S HAPPENED ALREADY! ;-)

[AndySmith]

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I cannot take anyone seriously who takes Rinna at her word and repeats such unfounded, bullshit gossip

See the comment I posted right above yours.

If it bothers you that much, here is a tip: put me on ignore.

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It just wasn't a funny comment and if serious, the apology would fall on deaf ears if I were involved

Again, people - and when I say people, I mean people who watch the show, who comment on the show, who review the shows on other websites and blogs, etc - were making jokes about PK/Dorit and coke months before Rinna mentioned it on the show.

Edited April 14, 2017 by AndySmith

[Lady of nod]

1 minute ago, Jamie Satyr said:

Rinna's walking around with a bag of pills and she takes offense at being made a joke? It's sorta like running around without underwear and taking offense if someone looks; OH THAT"S HAPPENED ALREADY! ;-)

It just occurred to me how much air time and talk Yolanda's pill pantry got last season. Rhinna will do anything for a story line - hence her big bag of pills?

[Martinigirl]

13 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Ummm...now you are just putting words in my mouth.  I didn't say she she had a drug problem. Just like Dorit never said Rinna had a Xanax problem

Edited to say ...I only said Dorit stated, "her nervousness tends to give her a runny nose"

[Snappy]

2 hours ago, zoeysmom said:

Same could be said for Ken and Mauricio certainly does a fair amount of business promoting on the show.  I like having the men in the scenes, they seem for the most part when together to have fun.  The first season they had a scene with the husbands (sans Russell and Kelsey) playing poker while the women were doing some group activity.  I like the vacation in Mexico and wished Harry and Vince were there.  PK did admit that he was too involved this year.  So he knows going forward to dial it back.  I do feel for the married ladies who husbands won't commit to filming because I think it changes their personality to a certain degree.  I also really liked Vincent hosting two parties for the ladies.    

I have more of a problem with Mauricio promoting his business on the show than PK being on it. If I see one more stupid Agency baseball cap...

[AndySmith]

Yeah but if Mauricio's future business promotions include future house and resort porn like the house we saw in the Gatsby party and the Mexico trip, he can stick around.

Here's hoping he opens an office in the French Riviera...or maybe the Swiss alps? ;)

[OhIgetit]

I think Ronn's and Dorit were equally wrong. Both took something and ran with it. I guess I do not see Rinna carrying around a baggie of pills as a big deal, because I do the same thing. I take a lot of herbal remedies but also carry my prescription medications with me when the homeopathic stuff just doesn't cut it. I am assuming that Rinna does the same as the stuff in her bag looks like mine 

[mbutterfly]

On 4/13/2017 at 2:37 AM, Happy Camper said:

I actually admire PK for joining the reunion and defending his wife. When I see scenes of PK and Dorit I see genuine love and affection, not a weird peck on the forehead gesture or shushing of the wife.  PK and Dorit are very sweet together and they are obviously truly protective of each other.

Tom does not come off as a loving husband, but rather a dirty old man with a trophy wife on his arm. He really creeps me out.  It would be interesting to hear the stories of his two ex-wives.  There are likely stories there, but I suppose having lawyer ex husband would impact on any potential reporting of history.

I see more to like about PK than to dislike.  He appears to be a sweet, supportive husband. Can't find fault with that.

The thing about P K's looks is he looks like a whole bunch of men I know, so I don't get it.

[dosodog]

You might want to check the law of the state you live in.

In Washington, it's illegal to carry prescription pills in any container other than the one the pills came in.

Stupid, right?  

[KungFuBunny]

1 hour ago, AndySmith said:

Snort!

Snort Snort...double entendre

[KungFuBunny]

6 minutes ago, dosodog said:

You might want to check the law of the state you live in.

In Washington, it's illegal to carry prescription pills in any container other than the one the pills came in.

Stupid, right?  

That's crazy

What about when people travel? For my dad, I usually pack in meds in those weekly pill cases - 2 of those because there are meds he takes in the morning that differ from night. Yeesh I'd need a separate suitcase.

[Martinigirl]

I just rip the med label off of the pill bottle stick it on a sheet of paper and take it with me. Odd thing...you can black out the medicine info on the pill bottle when traveling. Stupid,right?

[Martinigirl]

3 hours ago, AndySmith said:

As much as I hate to say it, I think Dorit might be safe for next season. The only one who might be at risk is Eileen.

Wait!   She did contribute this year-pink eye and montezuma revenge

[Jamie Satyr]

7 minutes ago, Martinigirl said:

Wait!   She did contribute this year-pink eye and montezuma revenge

Just excuses when she wasn't available for taping! ;-)

[Blondie]

Ericka, honey, just because you can wear it doesn't mean you should.
LisaR, just because you can say something doesn't mean you should.'

Ditto for all the ladies. 

Spoiler

no hidden spoilers.  Don't know why it's doing this.

Edited April 14, 2017 by Blondie

[dosodog]

1 hour ago, KungFuBunny said:

That's crazy

What about when people travel? For my dad, I usually pack in meds in those weekly pill cases - 2 of those because there are meds he takes in the morning that differ from night. Yeesh I'd need a separate suitcase.

The weekly pill boxes don't count.  So stupid.

Mainly I think it comes into play when law enforcement tacks on stuff to an original charge.  That's why I know this.  Stupendous Man got pulled over by a new state patrolman for having his license plate in the front window.  The cop noticed his little baggie that had his 2 emergency percicet pills.  Stupendous Man had rhemotoid arthritis. Which got him a ride in the back of a cop car and 2 hours in jail. 

Stupid right?  I even brought his doctors scrip to show the stater that he had a legal prescription. The officer was nice enough to call me at home to come get Jim's truck instead of having it towed before he hauled him away.

In the end, they didn't charge him with anything.  But it cost us time, hassle and unnecessary stress.

It's a stupid law. 

Edited April 14, 2017 by dosodog

[notnowimbusy]

On advice from my son (paramedic = proud mom), when we travel we always paste the labels from pill bottles to the weekly med container.   It helps in case of emergencies.  He hates it when he goes on a call, asks about medication, and they bring out a bag of pills.  It's no use to them at all, and only complicates what treatment can be safely administered. 

[Vicky8675309]

3 hours ago, Happy Camper said:

I cannot take anyone seriously who takes Rinna at her word and repeats such unfounded, bullshit gossip. The entire "Were people doing coke?" is in the same category as "Harry is gay" "Harry is cheating"  rumour mill. Just because someone says it makes it fact?

If Rinna carries credibility, then you must buy into her story that she NEVER once stated that Kim was "thisclosetodeath". 

I agree with you but just wanted to add in that Kim never actually said anything about Harry. She just said something like "let's talk about the husbands and what you don't want known" (wtte). I'm not defending Kim but technically she didn't say any gossip or anything specific unlike Rinna. I am not a Kim fan (and am definitely not a Rinna fan).

[KungFuBunny]

46 minutes ago, dosodog said:

The weekly pill boxes don't count.  So stupid.

Mainly I think it comes into play when law enforcement tacks on stuff to an original charge.  That's why I know this.  Stupendous Man got pulled over by a new state patrolman for having his license plate in the front window.  The cop noticed his little baggie that had his 2 emergency percicet pills.  Stupendous Man had rhemotoid arthritis. Which got him a ride in the back of a cop car and 2 hours in jail. 

Stupid right?  I even brought his doctors scrip to show the stater that he had a legal prescription. The officer was nice enough to call me at home to come get Jim's truck instead of having it towed before he hauled him away.

In the end, they didn't charge him with anything.  But it cost us time, hassle and unnecessary stress.

It's a stupid law. 

 

15 minutes ago, notnowimbusy said:

On advice from my son (paramedic = proud mom), when we travel we always paste the labels from pill bottles to the weekly med container.   It helps in case of emergencies.  He hates it when he goes on a call, asks about medication, and they bring out a bag of pills.  It's no use to them at all, and only complicates what treatment can be safely administered. 

I have a spreadsheet that I carry at all times, so does my father, so does his HHA.

It lists medication name, dosage, frequency/time of dosage, reason for med, RX number.

It also lists his doctors info, pharmacy info

My dad takes a gazillion pills. This sheet has been a lifesaver when going to new doctors and or the ER.

There's not enough room on those weekly pill containers for me to stick them on. I'd have to buy a piece of oak tag paper - the size of a Protest Sign. LOL

dosodog:  sorry about your experience..crying KungFuBunny and KungFuGrandpa can't come to your state for a visit.

notnowimbusy: your son would have no problems from me/dad - I'm organized

Rinna is an idiot for keeping all those pills in a baggie. They'd be pulverized...or should I say pillverized

[bravofan27]

I think Ericka has been provided additional commentary by Lisa Rinna, which has fueled her PK hate. I can't tell if Rinna really believes that they were doing cocaine either. I suppose it's possible, but why is Lisa R such the drug sniffer? Maybe that's why her husband is never around-- so Lisa R can't cue in to his own drug use (he looks like a crack head to me, sorry). Also, Lisa R may have real hair, but she definitely uses wigs. There is no way that early in the morning her hair looks like that without a stylist (from the getting ready to leave part). I guess wigs are cheaper than a stylist, and she likes her hair to always be "her brand" in every shot. Ericka was really rude to PK for not a lot of reason, and I'm thinking that she is somewhat jealous of their relationship. Dorit does have a pretty charmed life. Ericka on the other hand, her marriage seems very arranged to me. There is just something very off about the whole thing. I think she doesn't expect much from Tom because she knows he isn't going to do much for her in terms of companionship. If she is upset about something, I think it probably irritates him. She's his show-off toy to the guys and is cool in his own world. Together, Ericka, Lisa R, and Elienne are pretty miserable. They only have their own alliance which can fall apart, and will, at any minute. 

[Martinigirl]

OMG! If forced I'd rather sleep with Tom than PK any day.

Sorry not sorry

Edited April 15, 2017 by Martinigirl