Season 18 Live Feed Discussion: Their Lives are Almost as Boring as Ours!

[CindyBee]

5 minutes ago, wings707 said:

Bridget for care package!

This package will make a difference if she gets it.  Her name is being bandied about for DE.   Well, whose hasn't?!   

But the safety care package won't come till AFTER the DE on Thursday--or that's how I read the rules on another board. 

[TimWil]

Uhhh...wow.

 

[Brian Cronin]

Yeah, if you're Bridgette, it's awfully hard to say, "Yeah, let's all band together and go against Paulie, Corey and Paul!" when your potential allies can't seem to win shit. I think Natalie's great, but her "Come on, let me win!" shit during HoH was ree-donk-you-luss. If you're ever at the point where you're asking people to let you win because you haven't won anything yet then...well...that's not a good look on anyone. 

[gunderda]

But under certain circumstances it probably would have worked.  Especially if Victor was smart and realized that he doesn't want to be a sitting duck for the DE. Which now he is. 

[Wings]

12 minutes ago, CindyBee said:

But the safety care package won't come till AFTER the DE on Thursday--or that's how I read the rules on another board. 

I keep forgetting that.  damn  

[toodywoody]

I cannot wait for all these turds, Paulie, Paul, Corey and Nicole to start turning on each other. Nicole will be in there talking all nasal and saying how she just can't believe it. I cannot wait. 

I said it in the beginning, Big Brother is just like fucking Survivor, except the people aren't stuck out on some island and having to build shelter and shit. Every season, there's a group or dumbasses that are a bunch of fucking sheeple and just follow blindly then get all pissed off when they get the boot. The girls on these shows need to learn to play the fucking men just like they do them. But no, they just go along with it then sit around and whine. Nicole, I'm talking about you. And personally I can't wait until she gets the boot. If I was in the jury I would not vote for her or Corey, they could have made a move themselves but all they have done is play the DoucheCanoe squads game.

[Brian Cronin]

15 minutes ago, gunderda said:

But under certain circumstances it probably would have worked.  Especially if Victor was smart and realized that he doesn't want to be a sitting duck for the DE. Which now he is. 

Well, first off, they clearly dislike each other, so he was the last guy in the world she could expect to do her a favor. He was clearly up there to make sure she DIDN'T get the HoH, and she thinks he's going to let her win to be nice? 

But secondly, the circumstances where she could help him would really depend on whether she is useful to have as an ally going forward, and since she can't win anything, she really isn't all that useful to have as an ally. 

[J.D.]

I think it's just awful how they won't let Nicole have a brush or comb.

[Umbelina]

If you guys didn't listen to Corey last night, honestly, it's worth it.  About 40 minutes of talking to Nicole (who was actually interesting herself once or twice, especially about the power of James' "gift" and that they could flip this if they want.)  Started about 1:10AM or so BBT, stops for a few, starts again and goes until nearly 2AM when Paul ruins it by showing up in his "LOOK AT ME PLEASE!" stupid duck floatie.

Honestly Corey was right about more than he was wrong about.

Cliffs Notes:

Paulie is overplaying, bigger target than them.  They actually want to work with James.  Paul is done, everyone is sick of him, even Paulie finally.  They need to get Bridgette close to "them" (notice who Corey is sitting with today?)  Basically, sit back, let Paulie do the work and get the hate, Paul's self imploded because of his huge mouth and ego, 3 more weeks of skating, win HOH's then.

Edited August 8, 2016 by Umbelina

[gunderda]

So basically everyone wants everyone else to do their dirty work, let's see who crumbles first lol

[Umbelina]

I think it's actually smart.  People who want to rule, are braggy, win too many comps are ALWAYS eventually targeted.  Making them think they are in power and then waiting until the  house is sick of it and votes them out? 

Overplaying is stupid in BB.

[Wings]

6 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

Cliffs Notes:

Paulie is overplaying, bigger target than them.  They actually want to work with James.  Paul is done, everyone is sick of him, even Paulie finally.  They need to get Bridgette close to "them" (notice who Corey is sitting with today?)  Basically, sit back, let Paulie do the work and get the hate, Paul's self imploded because of his huge mouth and ego, 3 more weeks of skating, win HOH's then.

They might realize that they cannot skate if Nicole is used as a pawn, in DE, as Paulie suggested this morning.  I hope that does happen to wake them up.  And if she goes, it lights a fire under Corey and James.  

I would like to think that James will get Z out as he planned but I have my doubts.  That would inspire Corey/Nic to get a move on and possibly align with everyone else for 2 weeks to get the Ps out.  Worry about everything else later.  

There are lots of changes floating in the air in the last 24.  Excellent. 

[mooses]

Bridgette is in a weird position. She should probably want Z out since they guys obviously do not want Michelle there anymore - and without Z, she moves up in the Paulie/Corey situation with Michelle still there as a target. It's too risky for her to do anything about it, though. If she gets caught, she's back to being the big target for Paulie/Corey/Nicole. Plus, she can't trust Michelle too much since Michelle hated her for the first half , although she might be able to trust that both her and Michelle need to get strong threats out soon. Z is definitely gunning for her, no matter what.

I understand why she won't make a move to keep Michelle, though - she's settled in a bit while targets spring up around her. If she goes against Corey/Paulie/Nicole and things land the wrong way, she's could be back to target number one. Whereas if Z stays, she's probably Z's number one target, but 3rd choice at worst for one or two weeks for the other HGs. Although if you wait to long to make a move, you're waiting to get picked off anyway by letting others accrue too much power. 

That's the trouble with Bridgette/Natalie's games. They have to make a move to get themselves in a place where they might have influence on what's going to happen. Corey/Paul already have influence, so they can wait for others to make the move for them - and Nicole/James too, to some extent, although if they sticks with the Boys for too long they're screwed without competition wins.

Edited August 8, 2016 by mooses

[Wings]

2 minutes ago, mooses said:

Bridgette is in a weird position. She should probably want Z out since they guys obviously do not want Michelle there anymore - and without Z, she moves up in the Paulie/Corey situation with Michelle still there as a target. It's too risky for her to do anything about it, though. If she gets caught, she's back to being the big target for Paulie/Corey/Nicole. Plus, she can't trust Michelle too much since Michelle hated her for the first half , although she might be able to trust that both her and Michelle need to get strong threats out soon. Z is definitely gunning for her, no matter what.

I understand why she might not want to make a move to keep Michelle, though - she's settled in a bit while targets spring up around her. If she goes against Corey/Paulie/Nicole and things land the wrong way, she's could be back to target number one. Whereas if Z stays, she's probably Z's number one target, but 3rd choice at worst for one or two weeks for the other HGs.

Unfortunately they all think too much.  Big moves happen when not thinking in this way.  You have to take a leap and trust.  What Bridget doesn't know is that Corey and Nicole want Paulie out.  Corey made a step toward Bridget today but not strongly enough. It is time to hustle.   

[gunderda]

Michelle is ready to flip sides and team up with Natalie, James, and Bridgette. 

She feels betrayed by her 'friends'. 

[peachmangosteen]

54 minutes ago, J.D. said:

I think it's just awful how they won't let Nicole have a brush or comb.

She brushes her hair all the time actually. And she always brushes it when it's wet, which is probably why her hair is such a disaster.

32 minutes ago, gunderda said:

So basically everyone wants everyone else to do their dirty work, let's see who crumbles first lol

Yep. And they all think they're just gonna magically be able to win all the comps at the end.

[Brian Cronin]

7 minutes ago, gunderda said:

Michelle is ready to flip sides and team up with Natalie, James, and Bridgette. 

She feels betrayed by her 'friends'. 

What she really, really, really needs to do is convince James how much America would love it if his vote cancellation power actually ended up mattering on Thursday. "If you cancel out two votes to evict me and I stay over Z 3 votes to 2, then America will see you as an awesome hero! Derrick's dad will be fighting off offers for you to cut the ribbon at new Subway franchises."

Edited August 8, 2016 by Brian Cronin

[Wings]

3 minutes ago, gunderda said:

Michelle is ready to flip sides and team up with Natalie, James, and Bridgette. 

She feels betrayed by her 'friends'. 

Just got back home.  Is she actively doing something about it?  Turning on feeds now.  

[Brian Cronin]

Ac-tive-ly do-ing some-thing? What are these words? As a BB18 watcher, I am unfamiliar with them. 

[Wings]

Just now, Brian Cronin said:

Ac-tive-ly do-ing some-thing? What are these words? As a BB18 watcher, I am unfamiliar with them. 

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!  Good one.  

[thefog]

3 hours ago, Lady Calypso said:

It sounds like Michelle's down with Corey, Paul, and Paulie. I really need Michelle to stay in the house for this very reason. If James sticks to what he wants, I think they could easily keep Michelle in the house. 

She is such a misogynist.

1 hour ago, gunderda said:

Michelle is ready to flip sides and team up with Natalie, James, and Bridgette. 

She feels betrayed by her 'friends'. 

That is such a weak group of 4, especially with James at the helm.

Edited August 8, 2016 by escape

[mooses]

I think the problem is, a lot of them are trying to play a  Steve-ish game at the moment - he wasn't the best player in the House but he stayed under the radar and made enough of an impact that, if he got to the end with the right person, he'd win. But, since everyone wants to be Steve, only Paulie/Paul are playing the Vanessa role - they want to control everything, would probably win against anyone, and everyone will let them in order to stay under the radar, waiting for the next person to take a shot or hoping that their life-or-death challenge goes the right way.

At this moment, everyone wins against Natalie - she doesn't have a chance at the grand prize no matter what she does for the rest of the game. But everyone loses to Paulie. Paul/Corey are next in line - they're in a good position to play the lay-low role. Once Paulie's gone, they'd probably win against anyone else. James/Nicole have the "returner" status, so they could pull a surprise sitting next to Paul/Corey, but I think they're in a riskier position of playing for second without making a move - because, otherwise, all the HGs they'd win against (Bridgette/Vic/Natalie/Z) are going to get taken out by the people above them with more influence.

The big thing is, Bridgette/Vic/Z lose to everyone except Natalie. They're playing for second unless they make a big move - and they can't afford to wait for someone to do it for them because there's just too many people they'd lose against in the end. Otherwise, they just have to hope they make it there with each other or Natalie/Z, which will be harder when they have no influence in how things are going. 

ETA: I almost left Z out of this list because I don't really get what she's envisioning for the future of her game except Paulie lovin'. Does she know there's a prize for the winner?

Edited August 8, 2016 by mooses

[backformore]

1 hour ago, toodywoody said:

The girls on these shows need to learn to play the fucking men just like they do them. But no, they just go along with it then sit around and whine. Nicole, I'm talking about you. And personally I can't wait until she gets the boot. If I was in the jury I would not vote for her or Corey, they could have made a move themselves but all they have done is play the DoucheCanoe squads game.

Yes!  The guys walk around so cocky and sure of themselves, and have the women clamoring for attention.  Do you want me to bake cookies?  rub your back?  pop your zits?  (I saw a video where Bridgette actually picked a booger out of Frank's nose!)   I want to see some women with actual SELF ESTEEM, walk around like they OWN the place, band together and have the men running around begging for THEIR attention.

[mooses]

11 minutes ago, backformore said:

Yes!  The guys walk around so cocky and sure of themselves, and have the women clamoring for attention.  Do you want me to bake cookies?  rub your back?  pop your zits?  (I saw a video where Bridgette actually picked a booger out of Frank's nose!)   I want to see some women with actual SELF ESTEEM, walk around like they OWN the place, band together and have the men running around begging for THEIR attention.

I feel like we got a lot more of that last season. And Les Moonves went on record saying he hated that cast so that might explain this dump. 

ETA: We've talked a lot about last season versus this season, but the more this goes on, the more I realize that you don't know what you had until it's gone. It was lacking in age diversity, but it certainly had a good mixture of personality types. The guys barely bro-ed down once Jeff was gone, and all the women didn't cling to the men for their Big Brother lives. They mingled and tried to have some fun. There was animosity within the game, but people didn't seem to really hate each other.

Edited August 8, 2016 by mooses

[Umbelina]

"The guys?"

Vic and Paul want Michelle to stay.  James is pretty indifferent to which  one goes, but if not for Paulie, probably prefers to keep Michelle. (and MAY!)

Corey wants her gone because he thinks she's a bigger threat to Nicorey. 

Paulie wants her gone because he wants sex, and because Z will do anything he says anytime he says it anything he wants.

Paulie lying his ass off about wanting Z out and then winning VETO is going to piss off Vic and Paul too. 

Edited August 8, 2016 by Umbelina

[J.D.]

Well, as of right now, Corey, Nicole, Paulie, Vic and allegedly, James all want Meech evicted.  Vic said he's going to TELL Bridgette how to vote.  LOL.  Whatever, dude.  If Meech goes on Thursday, I hope she has the RT.  I know she's a Mean Girl and all of that, but she's like the only girl in the house that has an ounce of actual fight in them.  

I love Nat and I think she's smarter than she lets on, but she plays a passive game.  Her and Meech are very different.

[Umbelina]

I think the DR should put a bug in James' ear about what a FUCK YOU to America it is for James to give the gift they gave him over to Paulie, someone America didn't pick to have it. 

"Didn't America give the gift to you James?  What do you think they will think of you giving it away?"

I was on twitter last night.  People were LIVID about this season, lots of tweets, and I'd say 90% of them were about how much this cast sucks, how they are sick of the misogyny, how they are sick of showmances instead of game play, how they don't want hot bodies they want gamers, how ridiculous it is to cast a bunch of childish people instead of grownups.

The only positive tweets were the Zaulie fans, and they just look stupid.

BB may be switching their Paulie loyalty a bit.  They know Paulie and Paul are at the bottom of every poll, every week.

Edited August 8, 2016 by Umbelina

[Wings]

BY talk.  Cor/nic/Vic/Paulie/James.   

Michele told everyone that she is going to make a big move if she stays and everyone will be happy with her target.  Paulie is thinking who that might be (I think he knows it is himself).  He said could be James for wrecking the house, could be and he named others.  James is thinking, he was very silent.  Paulie presses for everyone to get Michele out, again. 

If James is worried he will not do his Z out plan.  I am not sure he feels safe with Michele at this point.  Come on Nat, talk to the boy. 

Nicole and Corey exchanged a look and a smile as Paulie talked.  

ETA.  Only Corey, James and Nicole in BY now.  They asked James whose votes he was going to negate.  He said Corey and Nic.  Then he said, just kidding.   Behind his back Corey mouthed to Nicole.  I think he probably said, he is not kidding. 

Edited August 8, 2016 by wings707

[thefog]

Michelle is an emotional player, not strategic.  She's also one of the biggest misogynist in the house.  Even if she somehow manages to win HOH (which I don't think she will), I can see her so call big move getting rid of Natalie or Bridget, whom she's always been jealous of.   Michelle has major esteem issues and I can see her being so blind sighted that the guys are paying her some attention, she'll end up doing what they want.

[mooses]

6 minutes ago, escape said:

Michelle is an emotional player, not strategic.  She's also one of the biggest misogynist in the house.  Even if she somehow manages to win HOH (which I don't think she will), I can see her so call big move getting rid of Natalie or Bridget, whom she's always been jealous of.   Michelle has major esteem issues and I can see her being so blind sighted that the guys are paying her some attention, she'll end up doing what they want.

Whenever I think of Michelle's strategy, I think of the week she flipped Tiffany to stay. Tiffany told her there was a Showmance Alliance (Nicole/Corey/Z/Paulie + Da'Vonne), and Michelle was so hurt and cried about being left out. But once she felt like she was back "in" with the cool crowd, she didn't care - she was fine being 6th or 5th place.

That's what's happening now. Natalie's giving her attention, so she's on her side. But if the vote flips, she'll probably just go right back to what she was doing.

ETA: That said, Z is still only on Paulie's side forever and ever, so Michelle is a better bet for some of them. But she's not a sure bet. Her and Z would probably do the same thing next week (Vic/Bridgete), but further on you're more likely to pull Michelle in than Z if you're anyone but Paulie.

Edited August 8, 2016 by mooses

[J.D.]

I think Meech would go after Victor because of the whole bead thing AND since he's already been evicted once and nobody seemed to care, she probably figures getting him evicted a second time wouldn't put a target on her back.  I think that's her "major game move" that she says nobody would have a problem with.

[Umbelina]

4 minutes ago, J.D. said:

I think Meech would go after Victor because of the whole bead thing AND since he's already been evicted once and nobody seemed to care, she probably figures getting him evicted a second time wouldn't put a target on her back.  I think that's her "major game move" that she says nobody would have a problem with.

She said she wouldn't though, something about having bigger targets.  Probably Nicole and Corey.  MAYBE Paulie.

[legaleagle53]

3 hours ago, TimWil said:

Uhhh...wow.

 

What the hell was THAT all about?

[Lady Calypso]

Paul/Victor are currently talking about how they want Zak out but they feel outnumbered and unable to do anything about it. Meanwhile, James/Natalie might still be on board with getting Zak out. All they have to do is talk to each other and Zak would for sure go. 

There's three days left and I'm so fearful that Michelle will end up leaving and not have the RT. 

[Wings]

Just now, Lady Calypso said:

Paul/Victor are currently talking about how they want Zak out but they feel outnumbered and unable to do anything about it. Meanwhile, James/Natalie might still be on board with getting Zak out. All they have to do is talk to each other and Zak would for sure go. 

There's three days left and I'm so fearful that Michelle will end up leaving and not have the RT. 

I am listening to that conversation now, too.  Very frustrating!  

[Umbelina]

Paulie admits to Nat & Bridge that he was shown a picture of Tiffany before the season by ______ and said "if you see her, she's Vanessa's sister"

[Brian Cronin]

4 minutes ago, Umbelina said:

Paulie admits to Nat & Bridge that he was shown a picture of Tiffany before the season by ______ and said "if you see her, she's Vanessa's sister"

Woooooooooow. 

[Wings]

Nothing shocks me having seen UnREAL.  The only difference between scripted vs reality TV  is one the plot is written before it is produced, the other they write it as they go along.  

[J.D.]

Is Paul stuck in that rubber duckie inner tube?

[CheetaraThunder]

Sometimes it's nice to not here people talk about game 24/7, so it was great hearing Bri/Z talk about race/culture. Hearing about what happened with Zakiyahs family is heartbreaking. And I'm beginning to really Stan for Bridgette.

[Wings]

15 minutes ago, CheetaraThunder said:

Sometimes it's nice to not here people talk about game 24/7, so it was great hearing Bri/Z talk about race/culture. Hearing about what happened with Zakiyahs family is heartbreaking. And I'm beginning to really Stan for Bridgette.

I left that conversation during Alcatraz.  Can you give the Cliffs notes on Zs family please?

[SevenStars]

Nat just told Bridgette that Paulie is funny, she likes him alot and that he is her future husband. Bridgette was kind of shock and started laughing saying " OMG". 

I really, really, really hope this doesn't get back to Z cause it doesn't matter if Nat was "jk' or whatever, Z is petty and I don't want her losing the calm that seems to have come over her since Day left and she was put OTB. 

Edited August 9, 2016 by SevenStars

[CheetaraThunder]

11 minutes ago, wings707 said:

I left that conversation during Alcatraz.  Can you give the Cliffs notes on Zs family please?

She basically said that when her family would walk into restaurants, a lot of people would walk right out because they were black. She always discussed how her family would get bullied for the color of their skin, especially Z. 

It was an insightful convo between the two.

[Visby]

Paulie says the dr asked him about boobies.  Then he was being sly as to what he meant and Corey and Nichole we're guessing and then Paulie called her/them ft for fake titties and that she finally admitted it!  Why does paulsey care so much about Natalie's boobs?  Seriously.  Every season is full of fake boobs and some of them are male.

[Umbelina]

Natalie about James: "he's a such a nice guy, I love guys like him" & Natalie about Corey, Paulie, Victor: "they're cocky fuckboys"

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

Dear Natalie, James is good at playing the nice guy. Those are the more dangerous ones 

 

Are Paulie and Zakiyah constantly having sex now? It sounds like it 

Edited for clarity 

Edited August 9, 2016 by Deputy Deputy CoS

[Lady Calypso]

So it's nice to know that not everyone is comfortable with Paulie's obsession with Natalie's boob job. James apparently had no idea about Natalie's new nickname by the boys, and I'd love to know from people who can flashback in the feeds what his reaction was toward Paulie boasting that Natalie finally admitted it.

Natalie and Bridgette had a talk. Bridgette is still mad about James putting her up, while Natalie is trying to convince her in the conversation that it wasn't just James. She also is talking to Natalie now about trusting Corey/Paulie, but Twitter updates is making it sound like she doesn't trust them at all. Confirmation? And she's telling Natalie about Paulie wanting to throw HOH. But Bridgette thinks they can't get rid of Paulie because he has too many people, while Natalie is telling her straight up that he's going to win. I get where Bridgette is coming from, but I think she needs to get it into her head that they can get him out if they show people how he'll win through all of these alliances that he has for himself. But I know she's afraid of putting a target on her back if she speaks up, so I can't really blame her.

Zakiyah's mad about Michelle over....fighting to stay in the house, I guess? Whatever, Zakiyah. You can go any time now. 

I guess Natalie/Paulie had a bit of an argument about the FT nickname (I guess James told her?). It went to fish, I guess, but Natalie also called James out for not defending her. 

[Umbelina]

Bridgette to Natalie: Victor trusts Paulie, Paul trusts Paulie, Corey trusts Paulie, Zakiyah trusts Paulie. Everyone trusts Paulie.Bridgette- I told Corey that I trust him and Paulie the most. Sure I do! Natalie- That's what you gotta do.

[mooses]

Bridgette said she knows for a fact Paulie cannot go anytime soon because too many people are on his side.
Natalie: "He's gonna win."
Bridgette: "I know."

That's why they should start taking out people that are on his side, like Z. But they still don't have the votes. They mention how comfortable she is right now on the block.

Edited August 9, 2016 by mooses

[J.D.]

I don't understand the obsession these guys have over Natalie's breast implants.  So what?  Lots of women have breast implants.  It's not like they're outrageously large, so why are these guys acting like she's a circus freak?