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NYGirl

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So I must have lived under a rock all of these years but I've never ever seen even 1 episode of this show.  So after finishing Season 3 of Cobra Kai I saw this and I started watching.  

I almost turned it off during Episode 1.  I cannot stand Lorelai.  She's never serious and it feels like she always has to be "on".  That would annoy the heck out of me if I was her friend.  Michel makes me laugh a lot.

Sookie.. ugh.  I'm not a fan of Melissa McCarthy and her attempts at slapstick humor.  I liked her well enough during Mike and Molly but then she quit her teaching job and the whole show was her doing stupid stunts so I gave that one up.  At least as the season goes on she's not doing as much slapstick as the beginning and I love her relationship with Jackson.  And the fact that she tells Lorelai where it's at.

I like Rory.  She is a sweet girl...even though a little backward  and shy.  She's really nice to her grandparents and just about everybody in town. 

I like Luke.  It's obvious that he has a thing for Lorelai and I'm sure she knows it.  It feels to me like she's a bit of a tease with him.  Like a "who, me?" with her.

I like Emily and Richard.  I love Miss Patty. 

I hope Lane's mother eases up a little bit.

Anyway that's my opinions on Season 1.  I'm up to Christopher returning now.  I'll give my ever changing opinions as I finish each season in that season's posts.

peacheslatour

peacheslatour

2 hours ago, NYGirl said:

So I must have lived under a rock all of these years but I've never ever seen even 1 episode of this show.  So after finishing Season 3 of Cobra Kai I saw this and I started watching.  

I almost turned it off during Episode 1.  I cannot stand Lorelai.  She's never serious and it feels like she always has to be "on".  That would annoy the heck out of me if I was her friend.  Michel makes me laugh a lot.

Sookie.. ugh.  I'm not a fan of Melissa McCarthy and her attempts at slapstick humor.  I liked her well enough during Mike and Molly but then she quit her teaching job and the whole show was her doing stupid stunts so I gave that one up.  At least as the season goes on she's not doing as much slapstick as the beginning and I love her relationship with Jackson.  And the fact that she tells Lorelai where it's at.

I like Rory.  She is a sweet girl...even though a little backward  and shy.  She's really nice to her grandparents and just about everybody in town. 

I like Luke.  It's obvious that he has a thing for Lorelai and I'm sure she knows it.  It feels to me like she's a bit of a tease with him.  Like a "who, me?" with her.

I like Emily and Richard.  I love Miss Patty. 

I hope Lane's mother eases up a little bit.

Anyway that's my opinions on Season 1.  I'm up to Christopher returning now.  I'll give my ever changing opinions as I finish each season in that season's posts.

I appreciate your POV. Keep watching. ❤️

NYGirl

NYGirl

Thank you for welcoming me!!  I'm definitely not going to give up as I am in for the long even though I'm annoyed.  Hard to explain.

The Christopher episode was shocking.  I can't believe how his parents acted.  Even though Richard stuck up for Lorelai I didn't get the feeling he was all in on it.  I loved when he told her how her getting pregnant and locking them out of her life for no reason hurt them and that Emily was in bed for a month.  Selfish Lorelai.

The next episode was Rory and Dean's 3 month anniversary.  It started out so sweet and then went off the rails.  I kind of liked Dean before this but boy was he selfish and impulsive when Rory didn't say she loved him right away.

Lorelai acting all babyish and sneaking out of the blind date was typical Lorelai and didn't endear me to her at all.

I loved her getting her comeuppance when talking to Luke at the bonfire and noticing maybe he does like Rachel.

The next episode Rory goes to a Chilton party and brings Lane.  I was so happy Lane met Henry but I'm worried we'll never see him again and he fell into a black hole.  Rory confuses me when she lets Tristan kiss her.  Meanwhile ugh Melissa McCarthy is acting like an idiot because Jackson is cooking for her.  Really?  Made my hate for her come to the surface yet again.  I'm sorry I have no patience for annoying people.

Max????  OMG...She's really lucky that he didn't have another girl in that apartment with him.  I'm wondering how long this is going to last

My last episode for today was Trix visiting!!!  First I had to get over my shock that it was Marion from Happy Days!!  I loved Richard fawning all over her and took this as a teaching moment to ask my son why he doesn't fawn all over me like that.  All I got was an eye-roll.  But I was amused at this episode and felt sorry for Emily.  I also loved when Trix said she wasn't leaving Rory the money because of Lorelai.  I loved her making Lorelai think she wasn't "such a much" (Ethel Mertz said this on I Love Lucy in the California episodes) 

alexa

alexa

15 hours ago, NYGirl said:

Thank you for welcoming me!!  I'm definitely not going to give up as I am in for the long even though I'm annoyed.  Hard to explain.

The Christopher episode was shocking.  I can't believe how his parents acted.  Even though Richard stuck up for Lorelai I didn't get the feeling he was all in on it.  I loved when he told her how her getting pregnant and locking them out of her life for no reason hurt them and that Emily was in bed for a month.  Selfish Lorelai.

The next episode was Rory and Dean's 3 month anniversary.  It started out so sweet and then went off the rails.  I kind of liked Dean before this but boy was he selfish and impulsive when Rory didn't say she loved him right away.

Lorelai acting all babyish and sneaking out of the blind date was typical Lorelai and didn't endear me to her at all.

I loved her getting her comeuppance when talking to Luke at the bonfire and noticing maybe he does like Rachel.

The next episode Rory goes to a Chilton party and brings Lane.  I was so happy Lane met Henry but I'm worried we'll never see him again and he fell into a black hole.  Rory confuses me when she lets Tristan kiss her.  Meanwhile ugh Melissa McCarthy is acting like an idiot because Jackson is cooking for her.  Really?  Made my hate for her come to the surface yet again.  I'm sorry I have no patience for annoying people.

Max????  OMG...She's really lucky that he didn't have another girl in that apartment with him.  I'm wondering how long this is going to last

My last episode for today was Trix visiting!!!  First I had to get over my shock that it was Marion from Happy Days!!  I loved Richard fawning all over her and took this as a teaching moment to ask my son why he doesn't fawn all over me like that.  All I got was an eye-roll.  But I was amused at this episode and felt sorry for Emily.  I also loved when Trix said she wasn't leaving Rory the money because of Lorelai.  I loved her making Lorelai think she wasn't "such a much" (Ethel Mertz said this on I Love Lucy in the California episodes) 

Kind of makes me sad if you feel this way on your first watch.  It really is a great show, and though the characters are flawed like real people, there are so many great moments and stories in this show.  Try your best to enjoy it all as a package and you will love the show much more, rather than being annoyed by everything.  It is the type of show that is more than its big stories.  I know some of it is annoying, but typically I find many things to love along the way.

peacheslatour

peacheslatour

3 hours ago, alexa said:

Kind of makes me sad if you feel this way on your first watch.  It really is a great show, and though the characters are flawed like real people, there are so many great moments and stories in this show.  Try your best to enjoy it all as a package and you will love the show much more, rather than being annoyed by everything.  It is the type of show that is more than its big stories.  I know some of it is annoying, but typically I find many things to love along the way.

Well said.

NYGirl

NYGirl

11 hours ago, alexa said:

Kind of makes me sad if you feel this way on your first watch.  It really is a great show, and though the characters are flawed like real people, there are so many great moments and stories in this show.  Try your best to enjoy it all as a package and you will love the show much more, rather than being annoyed by everything.  It is the type of show that is more than its big stories.  I know some of it is annoying, but typically I find many things to love along the way.

I agree.  After all if they really annoyed me that much I wouldn't continue watching.  I had a doctor appointment and then a work appointment today so I didn't get to watch and I found myself wondering what's going to happen.  I'm looking forward to watching around 3 episodes tonight since NCIS and FBI are reruns.

I'm being overly snarky...maybe because I've never seen a show like this before?  It goes against everything I've ever watched.

Oldernowiser

Oldernowiser

Honestly, I loved this show as I watched it for the first time over the summer. There were many, many times I laughed out loud and in 2020? Priceless.

But I am currently slogging through Season Six, which, as you’ll see if you do some reading of the forum, many, many people find...problematic. 

So I hope you enjoy it as much as I did and that you consider stopping about a third of the way through Season Six. 😁

alexa

alexa

1 hour ago, NYGirl said:

I agree.  After all if they really annoyed me that much I wouldn't continue watching.  I had a doctor appointment and then a work appointment today so I didn't get to watch and I found myself wondering what's going to happen.  I'm looking forward to watching around 3 episodes tonight since NCIS and FBI are reruns.

I'm being overly snarky...maybe because I've never seen a show like this before?  It goes against everything I've ever watched.

Well, I think this show isn’t so much about what is going to happen as it is about quirkiness, characters, and so many different types of moments.  So maybe if you look at it a little different and just kind of see it all as a whole it might be better.  Not trying to go on about that, but in the end it is all of this that makes the show more than major storylines.  

1 hour ago, Oldernowiser said:

Honestly, I loved this show as I watched it for the first time over the summer. There were many, many times I laughed out loud and in 2020? Priceless.

But I am currently slogging through Season Six, which, as you’ll see if you do some reading of the forum, many, many people find...problematic. 

So I hope you enjoy it as much as I did and that you consider stopping about a third of the way through Season Six. 😁

I found in my recent rewatch there were a lot of good moments in season 6 and 7.  The major stories are difficult, but there are definitely things that made it worth watching.  I actually like Season 7 after the first few episodes...it starts to return to what it used to be like.  Glad you are surviving the tough parts.  Lol

Taryn74

Taryn74

3 hours ago, NYGirl said:

I forgot to tell you my very favorite line from Season 1.  (paraphrasing) Trix to Lorelai.   "Comedy time is over".  Stopped her dead in her tracks...lol

Ha! Trix's relationship with Lorelai is very amusing. On the one hand Trix admires her for being a strong, independent woman, but on the other hand she has no patience for Lorelai's foolishness. There's another great scene on the way for you (I won't hint to when so I don't spoil you) where Trix tells Rory to go be young and have fun, and then immediately turns to Lorelai and tells her she's had enough fun in her life. LMAO.

peacheslatour

peacheslatour

34 minutes ago, Taryn74 said:

Ha! Trix's relationship with Lorelai is very amusing. On the one hand Trix admires her for being a strong, independent woman, but on the other hand she has no patience for Lorelai's foolishness. There's another great scene on the way for you (I won't hint to when so I don't spoil you) where Trix tells Rory to go be young and have fun, and then immediately turns to Lorelai and tells her she's had enough fun in her life. LMAO.

It's weird because 90% of the time I hate Emily but I immediately feel protective of her when Trix starts to take her to task.

junienmomo

junienmomo

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Max Medina. 
Watching Cinnamon's Wake, and this time around I find him manipulative and touchy-feedly, in such a way that I would have felt uncomfortable.

The push push push to date Lorelai. They way he simply dismisses her concerns about the school finding out, how it would be with Rory, and ethical concerns. 
He puts the "blame" on her with the "That's ice" topic. He "had" to punish Rory, when we all know the kids of influential parents wouldn't have gotten the same. 
He promises to do all he can to get Rory through Chilton. How? He might teach one more class with her. Then he says he just wants to be friends. 
She, the pleaser who faces customers all day, suddenly decides there's no ice.

Then he grabs her elbow. Minorly inappropriate.

Ignoring her voiced concerns, he appeals to her lack of impulse control while repeatedly asking her out. 
Later, at the coffee shop, the physical gets even more intrusive. Then he makes up stories, i.e. lies, and tells her only what she wants to hear. 
She calls him out on his claim that he has the "ability to be discreet." That claim screams to me that he's done this before.

Lorelai keeps expressing her concerns, like she would never do anything to hurt Rory. His response is to just let her grow up.

The constant rubbing of her arm. Ick. Yet she accepts it. 
We all know how the relationship ends, so her concerns came true. 
 

Max Medina. Master manipulator.

Oh, and the parallel "Goodbye Lorelai Gilmore" by Max and Dean wasn't cute anymore. More like a foreshadowing of the Dean-Rory relationship problems. 

Edited by junienmomo
andromeda331

andromeda331

45 minutes ago, peacheslatour said:

I realized I wanted him gone hen he started grilling Lorelai on what he should do if Rory and Dean were making out or if Rory came home drunk. You could tell he didn't know anything about the L/R dynamic at all. And the key thing. He was insufferable in that episode.

I didn't mind that one. I think he was trying to find out what his role as Rory's stepfather would be. Its a bad example he came up with since Rory doesn't drink or really stay out that late. But he did need to know what his role was. A lot of parents and stepparents don't figure that out before they get married which leads to a lot of problems that could have been avoided if they had. For me the dislike began when he dismissed Lorelai's concerns about Rory and Chilton. But then when Lorelai's proven right suddenly Max can't handle it and breaks up with Lorelai. That's was made me hate him.  

junienmomo

junienmomo

On 8/22/2021 at 11:07 PM, JustHereForFood said:

I don't remember that many details about Max, but I thought that he proposed way too early. And I think that Lorelai only accepted because he made the big gesture with those flowers, she was just swept in the moment.

Now that you describe it that way, I'm wondering if the "princess wedding" was a phase they took Lorelai through using Max. Since Rory was essentially done growing up, as Lorelai put it, Lorelai was free to experience life as a single unmarried person. 
Unfortunately, she was in the fantasy wedding phase and not looking for a lifelong relationship. 

Hera

Hera

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On 8/22/2021 at 5:07 PM, JustHereForFood said:

I don't remember that many details about Max, but I thought that he proposed way too early. And I think that Lorelai only accepted because he made the big gesture with those flowers, she was just swept in the moment.

Yeah, he and Lorelai met, dated, broke up, got engaged, and then broke up again all in under a year (which we discussed in the nitpicking thread, so I won't repeat it here). It's also nuts that they wanted to go straight from dating while separate places to married and living together without any intermediate steps. I get that some people do that but I don't think it made any sense for the characters of Lorelai and Max.

On 8/22/2021 at 3:21 PM, andromeda331 said:

I didn't mind that one. I think he was trying to find out what his role as Rory's stepfather would be. Its a bad example he came up with since Rory doesn't drink or really stay out that late. But he did need to know what his role was.

It was pretty clear that they didn't discuss the logistics of blending their households (where in Lorelai's house was Max supposed to fit his stuff?), and Lorelai kept forgetting to give Max a key to her/their place.

Edited by Hera
Fixing a typo
SJC

SJC

On 8/22/2021 at 2:21 PM, andromeda331 said:

I think he was trying to find out what his role as Rory's stepfather would be.

 

On 8/22/2021 at 2:21 PM, andromeda331 said:

But he did need to know what his role was. A lot of parents and stepparents don't figure that out before they get married which leads to a lot of problems that could have been avoided if they had.

His role would have been this:
"Young lady, wait 'til your Mother gets home. Now go to your room !"

Eeksquire

Eeksquire

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His role would have been this:
"Young lady, wait 'til your Mother gets home. Now go to your room !"

Except in reality it would have been: "Young lady, wait 'til your Mother gets home... to giggle about how you made out with a boy and make a dumb joke and then go 'Dirty!' so you, Rory, can roll your eyes about how much more mature you are THAN YOUR MOTHER and THEN you can go to your room.  Where she will probably wake you up in the middle of the night because there's a boy in her room."

peacheslatour

peacheslatour

9 minutes ago, SJC said:

Or Rory goes to her room & Lorelai bursts in her room the next morning while Rory is trying to sleep and chatters her head off about naughty Rory making out with a guy, driving Rory to madness, then pretends to not understand why Rory is being crabby.  smh

Remember this ?
Rory feels cranky this morning

And the the murders began...

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