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There was a good discussion about Ukraine with Richard Haas today. i fast forwarded the Trump news.

I thought the show would have Mika interviewing Polish government officials etc about the situation in Poland & Ukraine.

Joe made fun of Boris Johnson. Joe wants to do a cover of the Eddie Murphy Party All the time.

Joe made fun of the Brits for getting mad at Boris Johnson for partying at the garden party.

Haas called Johnson a  hypocrite.

Joe doesn't realize that the UK had strict lockdowns for the last  years.

Joe doesn't realize that life in Florida is very different than the rest of the world.

We are in a lock down in Ontario till January 31. Restaurants, Gyms are closed. Hospitals are overwhelmed & you can't get a free PCR test here unless you are very sick.

Mika spoke Polish to Joe.

 

 

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Thank heavens that they are spending the first 15 minutes talking about one of the great crimes against humanity:  that Pete Rose is not in the Baseball Hall of Fame.  And numerous others “who were no angels,” but should be elected to the Hall of Fame. (Joe, Willie, Jonathan, and Mike B all had a lot to say.) 

Mika came on and said that they could have said all this in two minutes.  

They even started this discussion on “Way Too Early”, which Joe said he had never been on.  

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1 hour ago, freddi said:

Thank heavens that they are spending the first 15 minutes talking about one of the great crimes against humanity:  that Pete Rose is not in the Baseball Hall of Fame.  And numerous others “who were no angels,” but should be elected to the Hall of Fame. (Joe, Willie, Jonathan, and Mike B all had a lot to say.) 

Mika came on and said that they could have said all this in two minutes.  

They even started this discussion on “Way Too Early”, which Joe said he had never been on.  

The show is changing from Morning Trump to an ESPN sports talk radio format as a first block segment.

I am surprised that George Conway has become a new semi regular guest after Mika & Joe said horrible things about his wife. One of Joe's talking points is that you have to defend your spouse against attacks by politicians.

I was watching American Crime Story Impeachment a few months ago. George Conway, Brett Cavanaugh & Ann Coulter had major roles in the show. George really hated President Clinton & worked hard to get dirt on Clinton.

Its amusing that he has become a hero on MSNBC for his anti Trump views despite his history of being very anti President Clinton.

 

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Mini recap.

Mika is in Warsaw helping her brother settle in. Mika's sister in law, Natalia Loptaniuk  has made no comment on her Instagram feed as to why she isn't helping Mark in Warsaw.

I wonder if Mika will interview her brother while she is there.

The show began with 15  minutes of Red Sox talk. Lemire has a photo with HOF Big Papi.

They showed a report from Richard Engel in Ukraine. It's always bad news when he shows up in a country. He was kidnapped when he was in Syria.

David Remick & Elise Jordan are the special experts on Russia. Remick took a shot at sports talk :)

Mika laughed.

 

 

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Joe repeated his talking point that Putin wants to rebuild the old Russian empire.

Joe forgot his discussion with Richard Haas yesterday that Putin has $600B in foreign currency reserves & that the high price of oil is helping him.

Joe should get some free samples of Prevagen.

Remick said that Russians don't think Ukraine should be independent.

 

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1 hour ago, jacourt said:

Remicks shot was pretty good!

Agreed. It's rude for Joe to ask  a guest to show up at 6 am & then not ask them to speak till 6 20 am. Remick thought he had called in the WFAN. Joe promised to bring on Mike Lupica to talk about NY sports.

I am puzzled how Lemire & Joe became Red Sox fans. I suspect Joe wanted to access Barnicle's Red Sox season tickets for free. Did Lemire grow up in Boston ?

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1 hour ago, oakville said:

 Did Lemire grow up in Boston ?

Wikipedia:

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Lemire grew up in Lowell, Massachusetts. He graduated from Central Catholic High School in Lawrence, Massachusetts, where he was a record-setting runner for school's track and field team, and earned a bachelor's degree in history from Columbia University in 2001.

 

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I do not mind the sports talk all that much; enjoy the break from all-politics.  Except when it involves mostly the Red Sox. Or solely soccer. What I do think is that there should be a time and place for it on show. Not when guests are sitting there with nothing to contribute. Not when it involves only the hosts favorites. Maybe on the half hour; maybe in between guests who would not care to contribute to the discussion. The upside? I guess it gives Meeka her usual schtick of being above-it-all and intelligent scold.

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The sports talk really doesn’t bother me but they should not use it as the lead when there are some scary serious issues going on.  As usual Joe can’t even discuss sports without screaming. Good God!  Just because you’re the loudest doesn’t make you more right. I guess there is always one of him in a group banging on the table while the others are having a sociable conversation.  Look at me!  Look at me!!!

But the question is who will be there. I’m betting Willie will be hosting. The twins have trouble doing 3 hours 5 days a week.  Those in charge are either so unimaginative or unable to find talent among their contributors. 

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2 hours ago, KayVeeTeeVee said:

Just read that Stephanie Ruhle will take over The 11th Hour.  Her 9 a.m. slot will be filled by . . . wait for it . . . and expanded Morning Joe.  OMG

This is a big promotion for Stephanie !

It's too bad that she won't be eligible for being interviewed by Mika's KYV because she is too young.

I am not sure having an extra hour of Morning Joe will improve ratings for the show.

Perhaps they will repeat the earlier parts of the show at 9 am ?

 

 

 

2 hours ago, KayVeeTeeVee said:

 

 

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Even as cynical as we have become about MJ - I think this announcement took us by surprise. So. The Twins are awarded by doing another hour (yes, I also wonder how much will rerun) for probably a good bit more money. It also says that the network has confidence in them; or that they are too lazy or cheap to actually give someone new a chance. The network also is enamored with Joe, always has been. I believe he has  a lot of influence with the executives on who gets hired/rewarded. 

I love Stephanie Ruhle but am not eager to watch her at 11 pm.  To me, the noon hour would be perfect for her. She is everything that hour should be - smart, enthusiastic , engaging, can handle just about anything.

KayVee thanks for giving the heads-up.

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1 hour ago, freddi said:

Four hours of MJ?  Yes, they will be repeating segments.  

ETA:  As I watch Mika valiantly struggle to wedge KYV into the final eight minutes, it occurs to me that her message of hope for women over 50 might get its own hour.  

I remember Joe letting Mika host a 30 minute women's segment from 8:30 am -9 am prior to 2016.

Joe would be in the background & occasionally appear on camera.

 

 

 

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Advertising revenue is expected to increase at MSNBC this year due to election advertising for the mid terms.

Joe will have an extra hour a day to talk about  election polls etc.

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/msnbc-stephanie-ruhle-morning-joe-expansion-1235164750/#article-comments

1 hour ago, plumbago blues said:

Man, Lemire must be nervous...they had an extra hour to fill and they didn't choose HIM?!

 

Is it just me or does Lemire like to talk very quickly in a a breathless manner ?

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3 hours ago, catlover79 said:

Was anyone really clamoring for an additional 5 hours a week of this show? 🙄 They should have given the 9 AM slot to someone like Chris Jansing. Boooooo...

Joe considers himself to be one of the smartest political pundits in America. Many people in the Washington Beltway wake up early to listen to how Joe saved America in the 1990's.

It's sad that President Biden doesn't spend his time in the morning watching Morning Joe like the former President of the USA did.

Joe's advice could save the Biden Presidency !

Football, Soccer & Baseball Coaches rely on Joe's recommendations on how to win games.

Mika is the Gloria Steinhem of her generation with a focus of successful women over the age of 50.

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I took a break bc I was getting cranky (sorry guys 😳) and also busy... catching up a bit on today and this week's DVR's

I'm honestly confused about the Poland thing?

they literally announced on the show it was gonna be a Morning Joe Poland special? But Joe's not even there?

I honestly feel like I need to turn my brain off when they say things like this, bc when they announced it instantly i'm immediately envisioning them all on folding chairs in front of the shiny main display case at the (beautifully curated and *cough* on brand) Polish Vodka Museum, wearing red and white and interviewing ambassadors and Polish officials about the future of Eastern Europe, talking to members of the Ukrainian diaspora/refugees/immigrant workers in Warsaw about how they feel about this shitshow...or picking the brains of professors from the University of Warsaw's department of Ukrainian studies, which yes, is a real thing....

....curiosity and insight and celebration of *regional expertise*...Siiiiigh

Buuut also the Warsaw backdrop is beautiful and Mika does seem genuinely curious and grateful and warm about the whole thing... but it's not really...an MJ special? Because there's nothing actually taking place in Poland?

Joe is in Florida, tho in fairness affable and calm and interesting, at least today. Willie is in the bleak winter hellscape, looking like the immanent murder victim in a Scandi noir crime drama. Poor baby.

they let Ari appear (blurrily) from a gorgeous NYC skyline? Willy most definitely isn't in DC, so when Mika is back, maybe they can prevent universal macular degeneration and let him have Warsaw?

agggh I swear I'm not a mean girl I just wish people would be more weird and creative and ambitious. I would give my right arm for one of the zoom people to just say f-it and appear in front of an aquarium shark tank.

I briefly caught up (via clips so maybe not wholly..?) on the Bari Weiss "controversy" Eddie Glaude segment, and tbh, for me I'm also done with covid, but not done in the sense that I'm done with being respectful or kind or grieving or following rules, those things are important and I will keep doing them.... I'm done with people using covid as an excuse to not be breathing and creative and alive and *back* because it is actually possible to do and be all of those things at the same time. for me this is not binary. ymmv

Barnicle looks cute.

Our Khaleesi Katty had a bandage thingy going on, presumably from a dragon bite. She is still the queen of the known universe. 

Here for Anne Appelbaum, always. And Sophia Nelson.

idk what to think of the fourth MJ hour thingy. The funny thing for me is I start work at 9.30 and leave at 9 and sometimes i make it 9.01 because when Joe and Mika are being boring and depressing (and absent) in the 8 a.m. hour the whooosh! bam! let's get f-ing smarter! instant pick me up of Magical Steph Energy is EVERYTHING. so that's gonna change 🥴

No one deserves a promotion more than Stephanie Ruhle does, at the same time I wonder if Rashida Jones actually ever sat down and watched her entire lineup back to back, ever since teh Kasie debacle I got the feeling she's not actually an MSNBC fan and has no idea who the people are or what the shows are of why people love them. hmmm. i only hope they let Steph be Steph and do her own thing and don't try to turn her into a Williams clone...

 

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The first thing I thought of when I heard they were expanding Morning Joe to 4 hours was, "Oh great.  This will give them both more of an opportunity to have their vanity projects appear on the air all the time now."   Every time Joe writes an op ed for the Washington Post, Mika has to read the whole thing on the air.  We're subjected to Joe's podcasts all the time now.  Now we're getting Mika's podcasts as well as her KNY rubbish.  The both of them disappear for half hours at a time on their own show.  Expect that to continue or even increase and don't get me started on the amount of time off they take.  Mika spends the whole week in Poland and does absolutely nothing.  Just sits at a desk.  How about some interviews or pieces on the country or the people given the current climate in that region?  Of course not.  That would mean she'd actually have to WORK and get off her lazy ass!  These two must have some dirt on someone high up at NBC to pull off a stunt like this.

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2 hours ago, neona2 said:

I took a break bc I was getting cranky (sorry guys 😳) and also busy... catching up a bit on today and this week's DVR's

I'm honestly confused about the Poland thing?

they literally announced on the show it was gonna be a Morning Joe Poland special? But Joe's not even there?

I honestly feel like I need to turn my brain off when they say things like this, bc when they announced it instantly i'm immediately envisioning them all on folding chairs in front of the shiny main display case at the (beautifully curated and *cough* on brand) Polish Vodka Museum, wearing red and white and interviewing ambassadors and Polish officials about the future of Eastern Europe, talking to members of the Ukrainian diaspora/refugees/immigrant workers in Warsaw about how they feel about this shitshow...or picking the brains of professors from the University of Warsaw's department of Ukrainian studies, which yes, is a real thing....

....curiosity and insight and celebration of *regional expertise*...Siiiiigh

Buuut also the Warsaw backdrop is beautiful and Mika does seem genuinely curious and grateful and warm about the whole thing... but it's not really...an MJ special? Because there's nothing actually taking place in Poland?

Joe is in Florida, tho in fairness affable and calm and interesting, at least today. Willie is in the bleak winter hellscape, looking like the immanent murder victim in a Scandi noir crime drama. Poor baby.

they let Ari appear (blurrily) from a gorgeous NYC skyline? Willy most definitely isn't in DC, so when Mika is back, maybe they can prevent universal macular degeneration and let him have Warsaw?

agggh I swear I'm not a mean girl I just wish people would be more weird and creative and ambitious. I would give my right arm for one of the zoom people to just say f-it and appear in front of an aquarium shark tank.

I briefly caught up (via clips so maybe not wholly..?) on the Bari Weiss "controversy" Eddie Glaude segment, and tbh, for me I'm also done with covid, but not done in the sense that I'm done with being respectful or kind or grieving or following rules, those things are important and I will keep doing them.... I'm done with people using covid as an excuse to not be breathing and creative and alive and *back* because it is actually possible to do and be all of those things at the same time. for me this is not binary. ymmv

Barnicle looks cute.

Our Khaleesi Katty had a bandage thingy going on, presumably from a dragon bite. She is still the queen of the known universe. 

Here for Anne Appelbaum, always. And Sophia Nelson.

idk what to think of the fourth MJ hour thingy. The funny thing for me is I start work at 9.30 and leave at 9 and sometimes i make it 9.01 because when Joe and Mika are being boring and depressing (and absent) in the 8 a.m. hour the whooosh! bam! let's get f-ing smarter! instant pick me up of Magical Steph Energy is EVERYTHING. so that's gonna change 🥴

No one deserves a promotion more than Stephanie Ruhle does, at the same time I wonder if Rashida Jones actually ever sat down and watched her entire lineup back to back, ever since teh Kasie debacle I got the feeling she's not actually an MSNBC fan and has no idea who the people are or what the shows are of why people love them. hmmm. i only hope they let Steph be Steph and do her own thing and don't try to turn her into a Williams clone...

 

I agree with you , neona2. I thought Mika & Joe would be in Warsaw together interviewing Polish government officials etc. Poland would be a target if it wasn't in NATO.

It looks like Mika was sent to Warsaw to get her niece & nephew settled because their mom is unavailable or no longer married to Mark.

Stephanie Ruhle has a lot more energy than Mika. I haven't seen the show yet, but I would be curious if Mika & Joe congratulated Stephanie on her promotion to MSNBC primetime.

Stephanie has been criticized during the 2020 election for supporting her former boss, Mike Bloomberg when he ran for President. There are people on social media that mock her for being a puppet of Wall Street interests.

Stephanie's alleged affairs with the founder & CEO of Under Armour, who was fired when his emails with Stephanie were disclosed to the Board of Directors & her alleged affair with her former boss at Bloomberg, Andy Lack who later was the boss at  MSNBC are problematic. Stephanie has not commented on her relationships with these two men.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-host-suggests-stephanie-ruhles-relationships-with-men-helped-her-stand-out-while-job-searching/

I think Katty Kay should be a co anchor of Morning Joe's 4th hour. She is an experienced journalist & having her on the show would take the pressure off Mika who struggles to read the TelePrompter & offer any insight on issues.

 

 

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I saw a new promo for Morning Joe during the evening shows, and I howled at their choice of banter, with the FOUR-HOUR show on my mind:  Willie:  "Things can't possible get any worse, can they?"  Joe:  "Of COURSE they can!"  <Me: "Yes, they could go to four hours!">

(For the record, I'll note that set of lines is in Steel Magnolias, among other places.)

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I have come to the decision that if I had to spend time with anyone on the show it would not be Joe.  Whine Whine Whine.  I cant stand it when another person uses a metaphor, he then picks up on it and uses it to death.  I think he asks questions not too get responses but to get material to use.  That is his idea of preparation.  Today is was the new LaGuardia Airport.  Honestly I do not know how far you have to walk. But the sense of entitlement!  Did he ever think to try to find out what the thinking was with the planning?  With all his connections that would be easy. But no just bitch and complain.  He probably wants to get dropped off next to his plane.  Because he is soooooo well known.  At least Willie said that maybe that can do cut ins to improve it.  A man with a thought!!!!  Willie was doing the report as a good thing and Downer Joe had to make it al about me and ruin it.  I like Katty.  She listens, responds is professional.  

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5 minutes ago, jacourt said:

I have come to the decision that if I had to spend time with anyone on the show it would not be Joe.  Whine Whine Whine.  I cant stand it when another person uses a metaphor, he then picks up on it and uses it to death.  I think he asks questions not too get responses but to get material to use.  That is his idea of preparation.  Joe had to make it al about me and ruin it.  I like Katty.  She listens, responds is professional.  

Agreed 100%. I get irritated when Joe repeats the talking point of his guests. It`s clear that he doesn`t do much preparation for the show. I wonder if he is working on a new book or album ?

As a long time viewer of the show , I remember Joe & the late Dr Z criticizing the poor state of LaGuardia. Dr Z said the airports in China were in better shape.

Dr Z used to complain about Amtrack as well.

 

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13 minutes ago, KayVeeTeeVee said:

Once again, we are treated to 20 minutes of sports.  If I wanted to know the scores and strategies, I'd turn on ESPN.  Why are these dunderheads allowed to get away with this nonsense.  MSNBC - the place for politics, indeed.

I think they are trying new content for the 4 hour show. The problem is I don't want the first 20 minutes to be about the Red Sox or Alabama football.

I would love to see Morning Joe's ratings by hour like they do for CNN & Fox. Morning Joe's ratings are a single number in the 700-800K range.

I remember when they invited guests who were promoting movies, tv shows etc.

It was hilarious because Mika didn't watch the movies or know anything about the actors.

 

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If they are trying to test content, good for them.  The solution is that you have a segment that is sports focused and have the panelist there that are interested in it.  To have Katty sitting there maintaining a professional face when she could give a crap about American football is silly.  I get so annoyed with Mikas little routine of huffing and puffing and eye rolling when they talk sports.  I am interested in sports, follow football and listen to sports radio.  I like to hear the back  and forth on the subject.  The teasing is funny.  They just should not open the show with it i and have people  in the stupid boxes that would want to participate in the conversation.  By the way being that there are like six boxes up does that means that the people are in six different places?  Bring people back to the studio!!!!

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Jacourt - brilliant brilliant post. And a scheduled weather segment. Every day. The thing with sports that would be ready-made for discussion besides the wins and losses is the kind of real news that athletes make. Sometimes funny, sometimes cringeworthy, sometimes nationally newsworthy. Not everyday with that particular part. As you said, not at the beginning of the hour(s) but a regularly scheduled time. Four hours is a lot of time to fill.

Sadly, I cannot watch MJ often anymore because I am burned out on 24/7 political discussions. And Joe’s knee-jerk pontifications. And my unreasonable dislike of Meeka; it has made me sound like a mean girl and that is never good.

Oakville - I have never understood why MJ ratings are not broken down hour-by-hour. Nicole Wallace’s aren’t either. CNN and Fox are done by the hour. I think.

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Just when I think I can't hate this show any more...they come up with more reasons to stay away from it. The four hour deal is ludicrous. I think the network has given up on morning programming and thus won't go to the bother of injecting new life into it. I think Katty would be an ideal host for her own new show...not piggybacked on the MJ moniker. Seeing her sitting silently during the sports talk...what talent going to waste. She should have been chosen to take Stephanie's hour; heaven knows she's paid her dues to them over the years and has kept her nose clean. I'm surprised/not surprised that Stephanie was chosen to replace BriWi...what with her somewhat questionable past behavior as posted above...I guess it matches his prior history. But, of course, Mika and Joe's transgressions were accepted so what do I know? I am somewhat shocked that the announcement of the new 4 hour show was made while Mika's in Poland picking out wallpaper for her brother's place...weirdly arrogant and tone deaf. Again, it must just be the cranky bitch in me coming out...I'm still fuming that Mika has been chosen to be the champion of women getting ahead in the world...while using her father's name and marriage to her boss as credentials.

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23 minutes ago, Lowcountry snark said:

Katty has certainly zeroed-in on her look.  She looked stunning this morning.  Over the years you could see her trying out different hair cuts, makeup, surgery, filler, etc... and it was worth the effort.

It's clear that Katty is following Mika's advice when she was fired by CBS in 2007.

Mika received complaint from viewers & her bosses that "her on air look" was unprofessional. Her clothes didn't fit & she was called frumpy. 

Katty made a terrible decision to leave the BBC for the fraudulent Ozzy media led by former CNN host Carlos Watson. I am baffled how she got hoodwinked given her experience in the industry.

I believe that Katty's "new look" will help her secure a spot on MSNBC in the 4th hour a a main guest.

The network could help Mika by letting Katty Kay read the TelePrompter & interview guests. This would take the pressure off Mika. Mika could focus on interviewing women over 50 for her KYV.

 

 

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oh man. I always wonder why they do the trolling thingy but I sometimes do kinda get it 🥴 

I don't agree with their approach on the trolling thingy bc it blurs the lines between things I consider positive and healthy and creative aspects of overall expression and unity in a visual medium with uhhh invasive personal stuff that is and should be irrelevant ---> the actual conflation is heartbreaking to me. And I'm not sure letting solidarity blur into anonymity is the answer. i would like to say that the going into invasive stuff and judging people in that way is not mainstream thinking among women in arts or theatre or cosmetics or fashion or whatever. notthere to make people feel bad #notallartgirls  

21 hours ago, oakville said:

 & her alleged affair with her former boss at Bloomberg, Andy Lack who later was the boss at  MSNBC are problematic. Stephanie has not commented on her relationships with these two men.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-news-host-suggests-stephanie-ruhles-relationships-with-men-helped-her-stand-out-while-job-searching/

 

but in fairness Oakville re: the "alleged affair" with Andy Lack this article literally says it was an insinuation tweeted out by *one*, only one (!), otherwise generally unreliable asshole at Fox news, with zero reporting to back it up. I mean it literally says that. I don't see how that becomes a problematic "alleged affair". it seems nuts and incredibly cruel to me that some random person can just tweet something like that out and it becomes a news story where people will skim the headline and just assume. 🥴 ymmv

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Joe was really weak today at the beginning talking about the games.  He was bumbling along finding it shard to get words.  I actually thought that he had not seen the games.  Hey guys just to let you know she watches the games with Jack.  How many times do we need to hear that.  He's such a great father.  Mika was engaged in the conversation, well she wasn't tut tut tutting. Lemire was much better than Joe at describing what happened. Yelling about politics is all Joe can do.

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jacourt -  you are able to put your finger on the shallowness of Joe. I just tuned in at the 8:00 hour to see a discussion on threats made against the judiciary. Meecham was concise and to-the-point. As was Al Sharpton.  Joe tried his best to make things all about himself. Now he has taken over the discussion and is pontificating, hijacking the entire thing. Same show, different day. 

Four hours!
 

28 minutes ago, Kemper said:

jacourt -  you are able to put your finger on the shallowness of Joe. I just tuned in at the 8:00 hour to see a discussion on threats made against the judiciary. Meecham was concise and to-the-point. As was Al Sharpton.  Joe tried his best to make things all about himself. Now he has taken over the discussion and is pontificating, hijacking the entire thing. Same show, different day. 

Four hours!
 

There are rumors that Morning Joe will be the only cable news show provided for prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.

I watched a bit of Friday's show. Joe & Donny Deutsch were yelling about locking Senator Mancin in a room till he provided some support for Biden' agenda.

Joe attacked Democrats for not focusing on state races & school board elections.

Donny said Democrats have to play offence & brag about the strong economy.

Donny said Democrats are poor at branding.

 

 

On 1/28/2022 at 5:52 PM, neona2 said:

....anyhoo... do we have any tea on their new contracts?

I'm guessing if an extra hour has been announced they must have signed something?

did Joe get his uhhhh $30 million and half a pretzel? 😂

I doubt it.

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32 minutes ago, jacourt said:

What are we all not seeing?  MSNBC execs seem enamored with these two.  They let Kasey go.  Then they are going to expand this embarrassment of a show.  I don't get it! Is the bench so weak?

You are so right! Yes, the bench may be a bit weak - several toadies. 

Has the expanded hour been discussed on Show? Did anyone hear Joe discuss his death threats with Rev. Sharpton? It almost sounded like he was boasting.

 

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While blathering on about Wordle Joe said something about himself that made me go Hmmmmmm.  He can remember a paragraph he read back in high school but cant do puzzles. He's   the ultimate booksmart person.  Can regurgitate information but has no ability to have introspection.  That is why he is so quick to leach onto others ideas.  He might not have any of his own.  He has all these quotes from people in his head and he just blurts them out.  

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