Morning Joe: All Episodes Talk

[millennium]

47 minutes ago, oakville said:

Mika was puzzled about The Virginia poll that shows that 58% of African Americans want Northam to stay in office.

This would not be the first instance where a group of voters is willing to overlook a politician's personal shortcomings for the sake of advancing policies they support.

[oakville]

Joe is mad at Trump for encouraging autocrats. Joe wants a leader with foreign policy experience. Joe forgot to mention that Hillary Clinton had more foreign experience knowldedge than Trump.

Kasie was shocked that Warren said that Trump might be in jail by 2021.

Kasie made a Star Wars joke about Klobuchar announcing on Goth !

I feel bad for the guests that show up in the Morning Joe Wayfair Green Room in NY. Willie isn't there to greet them.

[Landsnark]

Was the Bezos/National Enquirer story furthered at all this morning?  I listened for a bit, but Joe was being an ass and derailing all topics and interrupting, so I just changed the channel.  Did anyone with a bit of knowledge or insight get a chance to speak uninterrupted?
The national enquirer said that her brother leaked the photos, but Mika thinks the President did?

[oakville]

4 minutes ago, Landsnark said:

Was the Bezos/National Enquirer story furthered at all this morning?  I listened for a bit, but Joe was being an ass and derailing all topics and interrupting, so I just changed the channel.  Did anyone with a bit of knowledge or insight get a chance to speak uninterrupted?
The national enquirer said that her brother leaked the photos, but Mika thinks the President did?

I skipped through part of this segment due to Joe's interruptions.

Joe did say that AMI is in big trouble for breaking the plea agreement by blackmailing Bezos.

Joe called Trump the laziest President in history with his Executive Time.

[stormy]

My takeaway from this morning is that Richard Haas should not be on this show. 

I saw him on Fareed Zakaria's show last week and he came across so much more polished. 

[Ohwell]

1 hour ago, oakville said:

Mika was puzzled about The Virginia poll that shows that 58% of African Americans want Northam to stay in office.

I wonder who was in that sample and were they mostly from the Richmond area.  As an African American living in VA, my head is still exploding from all this mess and I just wish someone would ask me what I think of him.   They would get an earful (mostly expletives).

[oakville]

The guest at 8:30 am, Kara Swisher looked like an older version of Kasie Hunt!

[teddysmom]

I find it hilarious that Joe, the guy who literally works from his own basement, criticizes Trump for being lazy. 

Joe, you work 2.5 hours a day. From your own house!  When you bother to show up.  Just like Trump!!!  FFS dude, this is the pot calling the kettle black. 

[oakville]

2 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

I find it hilarious that Joe, the guy who literally works from his own basement, criticizes Trump for being lazy. 

Joe, you work 2.5 hours a day. From your own house!  When you bother to show up.  Just like Trump!!!  FFS dude, this is the pot calling the kettle black. 

Mika did not show up for the last hour.

I wonder if they will stay in Florida this week. It will be cold in the North East.

[xaxat]

12 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

I find it hilarious that Joe, the guy who literally works from his own basement, criticizes Trump for being lazy. 

Joe, you work 2.5 hours a day. From your own house!  When you bother to show up.  Just like Trump!!!  FFS dude, this is the pot calling the kettle black. 

That's not fair. You left out his second job as a musician.

Edited February 11, 2019 by xaxat

[Landsnark]

He is ranting and raving about Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton this morning.  5 minutes of it, and it's 6:05am.  "You know why they chant 'lock her up,' right?  She ran thee. most. corrupt. state. department in history."  Aaaaaand, I'm out.  fuck this.

Willie's face is pretty special, though.  Joe is high on coffee screaming about Hillary Clinton and Willie has a thousand yard stare, probably imagining what life has in store after this shit show ends and he can live on a Polynesian beach where Joe Scarborough is only a memory.

[stormy]

Well I took Joe's Hilary rant as a f** you trump rant.  

Joe's I'm madder than hell and I'm not going to take it anymore anti trump immigration rant was better.  It looked like he was going to explode.

[novhappy]

wow Barnicle says “ I know I don’t have to tell you this Joe, but for everyone else out there -Trumps campaign was about fear. Fear of brown peple, fear of Latin people etc...”

Barnicle is gone beyond the scale of douchery into his own special blend of ass licking, self-righteous blowhardery, blatantly-known-fact spewing, wisdom-toned jackhammer .

[novhappy]

I’m watching bits and pieces this morning but it seems like pretty much Joe just shouting that his observations and opinions are better than anyone else’s and using trendy words ( Trump is using every trope. The Republicans are talking about every trope.). (Check my cred in Israel! Check my cred on Israel!)

how the hell is this show on tv

[oakville]

Catching up with the show from snowy Oakville. As I predicted, Mika & Joe stayed in Florida today.

Joe is ranting about Trump using Hillary's "Stronger Together" slogan & inviting Hillary to his wedding to Melania.

Willie is stuck in NY with Barnicle

Joe now says that Democrats will have an uphill battle to beat Trump in 2020.

Joe has spent the last 2 years saying Trump will quit, be impeached , removed due to incapacity etc. The GOP is doomed etc.

Now "its an uphill battle"??

Mika's facial reactions to Joe's rant about Hillary is hilarious.

[neona]

10 minutes ago, oakville said:

Catching up with the show from snowy Oakville. As I predicted, Mika & Joe stayed in Florida today.

Joe is ranting about Trump using Hillary's "Stronger Together" slogan & inviting Hillary to his wedding to Melania.

Willie is stuck in NY with Barnicle

Joe now says that Democrats will have an uphill battle to beat Trump in 2020.

Joe has spent the last 2 years saying Trump will quit, be impeached , removed due to incapacity etc. The GOP is doomed etc.

Now "its an uphill battle"??

Mika's facial reactions to Joe's rant about Hillary is hilarious.

Mika is in New York... I'm guessing Joe is probably staying behind with his kid today and then following tomorrow, so there may be in-studio shows this week. If this means some exec has now decided to force them to spend at least 50% in studio, this cracks me up because by thinking they could get away with a permanent move they've actually trapped themselves into the world's most complicated commuting arrangement haha.

I wonder if Mika has inducted other female panellists into her Cult of the Black Shirt. Noticed several other panelists wearing black yesterday and today Yamiche. I'm sure she thinks she's making some complicated feminist point but she's actually just making the whole setup even more depressing than it already was. Good lord. 

[xaxat]

I haven't (and won't) read Joe's op ed about Senator Bennett, but his on air case for him running seemed to boil down to "I just want a white, male moderate candidate who is not named Joe Biden."

[oakville]

8 minutes ago, neona said:

Mika is in New York... I'm guessing Joe is probably staying behind with his kid today and then following tomorrow, so there may be in-studio shows this week. If this means some exec has now decided to force them to spend at least 50% in studio, this cracks me up because by thinking they could get away with a permanent move they've actually trapped themselves into the world's most complicated commuting arrangement haha.

I wonder if Mika has inducted other female panellists into her Cult of the Black Shirt. Noticed several other panelists wearing black yesterday and today Yamiche. I'm sure she thinks she's making some complicated feminist point but she's actually just making the whole setup even more depressing than it already was. Good lord. 

Mika in NY? without Joe. No wonder she is wearing black!

Joe is mad at Omar for anti semitic remarks. He want her to apologize again. He said he wants her to do better.

Joe said he was a strong defender of Israel when he was in Congress.

Joe is ranting about Trump making anti muslim comments.

[oakville]

Joe is demanding that the Democratic party kick GOV Northam out of the party.

Joe is demanding that the Democratic party kick GOV Northam out of the party.

[teddysmom]

You can defend Israel and criticize AIPAC and its pressure on Congress, Joe. Maybe if you were capable of critical thinking, you'd understand that. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/made-by-history/wp/2018/03/06/the-dark-roots-of-aipac-americas-pro-israel-lobby/?utm_term=.dead2c66f4ee

Edited February 12, 2019 by teddysmom
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[oakville]

Joe is excited about Senator Michael Bennet  running for President. Joe never met him. Joe wants centrists to run for the nomination.

[oakville]

Joe is less excited about Joe Biden running for President.

[cased]

3 hours ago, Landsnark said:

He is ranting and raving about Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton this morning.  5 minutes of it, and it's 6:05am.  "You know why they chant 'lock her up,' right?  She ran thee. most. corrupt. state. department in history."  Aaaaaand, I'm out.  fuck this.

That was actually supposed to be a joke. He was yelling all these things about Hillary being corrupt, and people working for her being arrested, then at the end he said “oh no wait, that was Trump”.

The joke was silly, but it was meant to be anti-trump, not anti-clinton

[Kemper]

I didn't see the show this morning; but I got an email from a friend asking what I thought of Meeka's "reaction" to things.  Since she kind of likes Meeka, I didn't ask if she preened and batted the eyelashes; or thrust her chest out.  Were her reactions any different than usual?  I am assuming the reactions were due to Joe's ranting and raving?

[stormy]

3 hours ago, oakville said:

Catching up with the show from snowy Oakville. As I predicted, Mika & Joe stayed in Florida today.

Joe is ranting about Trump using Hillary's "Stronger Together" slogan & inviting Hillary to his wedding to Melania.

Willie is stuck in NY with Barnicle

Joe now says that Democrats will have an uphill battle to beat Trump in 2020.

Joe has spent the last 2 years saying Trump will quit, be impeached , removed due to incapacity etc. The GOP is doomed etc.

Now "its an uphill battle"??

Mika's facial reactions to Joe's rant about Hillary is hilarious.

I really don't need Joe giving me whiplash at 6 am.

His change in the political landscape because of the governor of VA pissed me off.

Besides, why should Dems listen to Joe. His party is all in for do whatever, say whatever and never back down.

[teddysmom]

7 minutes ago, stormy said:

inviting Hillary to his wedding to Melania.

He had to correct himself, at first he said  they went to weddings together. That's when I lost it.  

Joe sees himself as a king maker.   It's just another one of his delusions to add to the list. 

[dubbel zout]

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[oakville]

24 minutes ago, teddysmom said:

He had to correct himself, at first he said  they went to weddings together. That's when I lost it.  

Joe sees himself as a king maker.   It's just another one of his delusions to add to the list. 

Joe makes me laugh now that he considers himself to be highly qualified to advise Democrats on who they should pick for President in 2020.

Joe's new talking point is to mention all the states that Trump won along the Mississippi river.

Joe said that Democrats have to follow Bill Clinton's strategy in 1992.

[millennium]

3 hours ago, cased said:

That was actually supposed to be a joke. He was yelling all these things about Hillary being corrupt, and people working for her being arrested, then at the end he said “oh no wait, that was Trump”.

The joke was silly, but it was meant to be anti-trump, not anti-clinton

I watched for about 8 minutes this morning and caught the segment in question.   It was indeed a joke.  The thing is, it didn't seem at all like a joke or hyperbole at the outset.   It seemed like more of the Hillary bashing these two are known for.   I very nearly switched off before he got to the "oh wait, that's Donald Trump's administration" punchline, because the attitude, tone and tenor of the content were right in step with his previous rants against Hillary.

Edited February 12, 2019 by millennium

[Landsnark]

3 hours ago, cased said:

The joke was silly, but it was meant to be anti-trump, not anti-clinton

I suppose I should have stuck in there through the 4 minute run up to the punch line.  Listening to him rant is a tough row to hoe, though.  And he's said the exact same thing non-ironically in the past.  He's a mixed bag, our Joe.
 

Later in the show as i watched from the gym, Barnicle asked Victoria DeFrancesco why white Texans support trump.  She was nonplussed by the comment.  And said, "Well, outside of Austin and El Paso, Texas is very very conservative.  It's deeply red.  It is a very conservative state."  I guarantee she was thinking "Someone should help that poor old man back to his recliner."

[Sader87]

Me, or is Joe perpetually stuck in the early 1990s? When he was in Congress dammit!!! ☺️

[teddysmom]

11 minutes ago, Sader87 said:

Me, or is Joe perpetually stuck in the early 1990s? When he was in Congress dammit!!! ☺️

In answer to your question, yes. 

As the Boss sang: 

Well time slips away and leaves you with nothing, mister, but
Boring stories of

Glory days, well they'll pass you by
Glory days, in the wink of a young girl's eye
Glory days, glory days

Except there was no glory to leaving Congress to avoid a scandal about a dead girl in your office. 

[oakville]

Wednesday recap. Joe is in Florida. He said Feb 14 is a special day because spring training for the red sox opens in FT Myers. Mika got upset.

Joe & Mika are discussing Manafort & the Mueller probe. They are making fun of Trump for not getting full funding for the Wall.

Joe said he knows the constitution. You can't use executive action to appropriate money.

[oakville]

Joe is making fun of Trump for refusing the $23b he was offered last year for border security.

Mika is in NY.

Barnicle does not like Trump's advisors. They are are not experienced.

Joe used to like Jared Kushner.

[oakville]

Joe brought up the clip about Trump joking about Jewish people being skilled negotiatators.

Mika acknowledged that Congressman Omar's tweets about Jews were horrible.

Mika & Joe said Trump was a hypocrite because he insults other ethnic groups.

[teddysmom]

41 minutes ago, oakville said:

Mika acknowledged that Congressman Omar's tweets about Jews were horrible.

Mika, Benjamins was referring to the money AIPAC members donate to Congress, and to Benjamin Netanyahu. She didn't say "boy those Jews love money, don't they?"  THAT would be a hateful anti Semitic trope.

It's actually the members of Congress who love the money they're getting, and in turn voting to keep supporting Netanyahu. 

 But go ahead and conflate what she said, grasp your imaginary pearls and act all aghast.  Instead of actually looking into the situation with Israel.  American Jews even acknowledge that a two state solution is needed.  

You're an idiot. 

Edited February 13, 2019 by teddysmom

[oakville]

Joe started off the show with a long rant against Democrats for over reaching. Trump's popularity is up to 44%.. Democrats should listen to Nancy Pelosi. 

Joe said parties should stop overreaching when they win elections.

Trump could win re election.

Mika is stuck in NY.

[stormy]

12 minutes ago, oakville said:

Joe started off the show with a long rant against Democrats for over reaching. Trump's popularity is up to 44%.. Democrats should listen to Nancy Pelosi. 

Joe said parties should stop overreaching when they win elections.

Trump could win re election.

Mika is stuck in NY.

Joe made my anxiety level spike. It was depressing to hear him say those things after months of him saying trump won't run in 2020.

[oakville]

Ratner brought charts to explain why Trump's tax refom affected people in high tax states.

High income earners are leaving Conn, N, NJ and moing to low tax states.

Joe did not explain that he moved to Florida for this reason.

Joe is no ranting again at Democrats for losing Senate seats in the midwest.

[Sader87]

First time I've heard/listened to Pete Buttigieg....very impressed. I'm not sure the MJ dopes knew what to make of him.

[oakville]

Jim Vnderhei warned Democrats that the Green deal & Socialism will scare voters. They have to be authentic on Social Media.

Mika said she always tells people to be authentic on her Know Your Value platform.

Joe warned Mika not to over share on social media.

[oakville]

Claire Macaskill came on the show to warn Democrats about not being lemmings and supporting the new Green Deal without reading it.

Claire wants Democrats to stop focusing on identity politics.

[The Solution]

1 hour ago, stormy said:

Joe made my anxiety level spike. It was depressing to hear him say those things after months of him saying trump won't run in 2020.

Think about what Joe's mouth resembles and then think about what comes out of that body part. Problem solved.

[teddysmom]

1 hour ago, Sader87 said:

First time I've heard/listened to Pete Buttigieg....very impressed. I'm not sure the MJ dopes knew what to make of him.

ITA.    I loved how he shut Joe's abortion bullshit down.

What is with Joe Scarborough and this obsession?  Joe, women are not getting pregnant, carrying the baby til 3-4 weeks before their due date and then saying, "you know what? I think I really don't want this baby after all".  For fuck sake you moron, these are babies that have very little if any chance of living, and they aren't being "killed", they just aren't being put on long term life support.  And sometimes in the later term, the doctor determines the fetus isn't going to make it to term and they end the pregnancy. But if Joe thinks this is like returning a sweater that you didn't like once you got home, his head is further up his ass than even I though possible. 

My head did officially explode with Mika's new Know Your Value for the youngs.  The Amazon description is hilarious.  "Advice from kickass young entrepreneurs".  Mika really is up on all the hip new lingo. 

The co author is an employee/producer on Morning Joe. This is like my boss making me help him put together a slide show for his wife's birthday.  Yeah I'll do it because you pay me. 

Edited February 14, 2019 by teddysmom

[xaxat]

1 hour ago, oakville said:

Joe said parties should stop overreaching when they win elections.

This from the man who came into Congress promising to eliminate four or five cabinet departments.

23 minutes ago, oakville said:

Claire Macaskill came on the show to warn Democrats about not being lemmings and supporting the new Green Deal without reading it.

Claire wants Democrats to stop focusing on identity politics.

So glad I missed that segment. 

1 hour ago, oakville said:

High income earners are leaving Conn, N, NJ and moing to low tax states.

It's not the state tax rate that is causing rich people to move recently. It's that federal taxes no longer allow them to deduct all of the state real estate taxes paid.

[teddysmom]

Joe the only Democrats who care about your stupid advice is your wife and maybe Claire McCaskill. I assume that's why you keep having her on, so she can nod in agreement to your bullshit. 

[oakville]

Joe was tough on Mayor Pete. Mika called him the Mr Rogers of the Democratic field.

[teddysmom]

10 minutes ago, oakville said:

Joe was tough on Mayor Pete. Mika called him the Mr Rogers of the Democratic field.

Joe tried to be tough on him.  Joe's used to arguing with Mika and Mike Barnicle.  

 He brought a plastic fork to a gun fight. 

[Ohwell]

1 hour ago, xaxat said:

It's not the state tax rate that is causing rich people to move recently. It's that federal taxes no longer allow them to deduct all of the state real estate taxes paid.

Isn't that why they're moving to the low tax states?

[Kemper]

8 hours ago, Ohwell said:

Isn't that why they're moving to the low tax states?

Yep. However, if you are being paid to host a daily news show...you should be required to live within commuting distance of the show.  No perks given to your tax situation or family situation.  Unless the family situation is an emergency.

Is it me or is it getting harder to tune in every day?  Same lectures or rants given by the hosts (when they are actually on camera); Willy doing the heavy lifting.  Lots of the same guests bringing the same conversation.