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At 714 am, Joe went off about women in Norther Virginia voting in the rain!. LOL!. Trump is doomed if it is raining in November.

Joe is excited that college educated women are opposed to Trump. The woman aren't moving!. They will stay in the rain!

1 minute ago, cased said:

I would have guessed mid to late 50s for Ratigan, but I looked it up, and sure enough, he was born in 1972. 

Being on cable news will age you!. He was very hyper on CNBC & had to leave the set when he would get too heated.

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I always thought that Ratigan was or might still be a heavy smoker or drinker. Something aged him a lot and it's not just from being on TV. I was shocked a few years ago to find out he was only in his early 40's.

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26 minutes ago, WhineandCheez said:

 

 

You're shitting me.  I'm thinking 60ish, and retired. Whoa...

Here is a classic Ratigan rant from August 2011. The stock market was falling to 11,000. Poor Susan Del Percio ( now with Morning Joe) had to listen. Ratigan is right about deficit spending & a bought Congress.

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2 hours ago, stormy said:

So a security clearance is now just a bogus meaningless piece of paper since trump became president. If it was really important and necessary, how did trump pass the bar.

He didn't. They don't have to.  Which is insane. As we are now finding out. If they did, he'd have never gotten into the primary. 

And that goes for any candidate of any party.  They should have to be able to pass a security clearance. 

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1 hour ago, oakville said:

Mika gets much more time off now than she is engaged to Joe.

Sleeping with the boss sure has its perks, huh?

Not that she ever adds anything to the discussion, but when one is advertised as a co-host of a TV show, I would expect one to show up every day.  What the f*ck is so much more important than showing up to work (at her highly overpaid position) on a daily basis?  The rest of the world manages to do that, for a fraction of the money.  -  What's she doing anyway?  Doling out snacks to the chickens?  Meeting with the wedding planner?  Trying to figure out her worth?

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36 minutes ago, Ladyrain said:

Meeting with the wedding planner?

That was going to be my guess, that the only thing that could take her away from the show would be the meticulous planning of their impending rich-princess wedding. 

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I used to watch Dylan Rattigan when he had is own show...loved him and thought he was handsome.  But figured he was in his mid-50's.  And that was years ago!  He's still handsome.

At some point, MSNBC is going to have to do something about MJ and the lack of appearance(s) of their two co-hosts.  Skyped in?  Having almost every Friday and/or Monday off?  When I turn on CNN in the mornings, I can almost always count on seeing Chris Cuomo and Allison Camerata.  They  have an actual job...their outside interests don't intrude.  Who knows,maybe they don't have any outside interests.  Maybe a high-paying, plum job is enough for them.

Are MJ's ratings that much better than their competition?  Fox doesn't count.  I guess the antics of the co-hosts get well-publicized and bring in the eyeballs.  MSNBC could ax the Gold Dust Twins, hire a couple of people at probably half the current salaries of the "co-hosts" and still do pretty well in the ratings.  

When is the wedding?  Since it will be his third and her second, maybe just go to city hall and then have a big party after.  Like that will happen.

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1 hour ago, oakville said:

Joe is a champion of women.

Especially the ones who vote in the rain.

Speaking of Harold Ford, has he been on the show since he was "cleared"? I saw David Korn on one of the other MSNBC shows (I recall that there were some allegations against him), but I wasn't sure about HF.

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I thought it was weird Mika wasn't there Friday, they said she'd be back Monday, and today she is gone but Joe said she'd be back tomorrow. Then at the end Joe said they are going to be live from DC tomorrow. It made me wonder if everything is ok with her mother's health. 

16 hours ago, Chloesmom said:

Hoo boy XOQueens, thank you so much for that live action shot!  Wowzers, there's a lot to unpack there.  I especially love how Mika is wearing a rocker chick chic top and Joe is wearing a suit (I am assuming sans socks).  She does look genuinely happy.

Lol trust, there was a lot to unpack in person. Mika is actually quite beautiful in person IMO. 

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1 hour ago, Kemper said:

When is the wedding?  Since it will be his third and her second, maybe just go to city hall and then have a big party after.  Like that will happen.

Mika has been saying sometime after her daughter graduates from Johns Hopkins in June. So, we'll see.

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Here's an interesting interview of Mika & Joe in December 2013.  Vander Hei asked Mika if Joe would run for political office. Mika cooed that the only office he would run for is President. Mika didn't want Joe to run for office because she needed a job as co host. Mika said she would tell Joe when he could  run for her office. Mika made fun of her oldest daughter for getting emotional at the event. Mika mocked her daughter, Emilia for thinking like a Republican. Mika said her daughter was selfish.

  Joe was not wearing socks & his face turned red when asked about his political future.

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1 hour ago, Jordan Baker said:

Especially the ones who vote in the rain.

Speaking of Harold Ford, has he been on the show since he was "cleared"? I saw David Korn on one of the other MSNBC shows (I recall that there were some allegations against him), but I wasn't sure about HF.

Ha!. I haven't seen Ford Jr on the show. Mika has stopped her crusade to try to bring Halperin back on the show to confront his victims.

1 hour ago, XOQueens said:

I thought it was weird Mika wasn't there Friday, they said she'd be back Monday, and today she is gone but Joe said she'd be back tomorrow. Then at the end Joe said they are going to be live from DC tomorrow. It made me wonder if everything is ok with her mother's health. 

Lol trust, there was a lot to unpack in person. Mika is actually quite beautiful in person IMO. 

That's a possibility. I hope Mika's mom is OK. She was ill last year after Dr Z passed away.

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2 hours ago, Kemper said:

I used to watch Dylan Rattigan when he had is own show...loved him and thought he was handsome.  But figured he was in his mid-50's.  And that was years ago!  He's still handsome.

At some point, MSNBC is going to have to do something about MJ and the lack of appearance(s) of their two co-hosts.  Skyped in?  Having almost every Friday and/or Monday off?  When I turn on CNN in the mornings, I can almost always count on seeing Chris Cuomo and Allison Camerata.  They  have an actual job...their outside interests don't intrude.  Who knows,maybe they don't have any outside interests.  Maybe a high-paying, plum job is enough for them.

Are MJ's ratings that much better than their competition?  Fox doesn't count.  I guess the antics of the co-hosts get well-publicized and bring in the eyeballs.  MSNBC could ax the Gold Dust Twins, hire a couple of people at probably half the current salaries of the "co-hosts" and still do pretty well in the ratings.  

When is the wedding?  Since it will be his third and her second, maybe just go to city hall and then have a big party after.  Like that will happen.

Morning Joe is still beating New Day in total viewers but New Day has higher ratings in the Key Demo. Fox & Friends has much higher ratings . Overall, ratings are much higher for all 3 cable tv news shows over the past 2 years.  Thanks Trump:)

http://www.showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-top-150-thursday-cable-originals-network-finals-2-8-2018.html

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As far as MJ ratings go, I only watch for the spectical. There's no news here.

l'll throw in my two cents on Dylan Ratigan because I was a daily viewer of his MSNBC show and fan.

I think it's refreshing to see a man with silver or grey hair go natural. I think it looks ridiculous to see men (well maybe in Hollywood) dying their hair. Remember when Howard Fineman decided to go au natural? He looks so much better now. JMO

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36 minutes ago, stormy said:

As far as MJ ratings go, I only watch for the spectical. There's no news here.

l'll throw in my two cents on Dylan Ratigan because I was a daily viewer of his MSNBC show and fan.

I think it's refreshing to see a man with silver or grey hair go natural. I think it looks ridiculous to see men (well maybe in Hollywood) dying their hair. Remember when Howard Fineman decided to go au natural? He looks so much better now. JMO

I saw some other clips of Rtigan's show on You Tube. He was ahead of his time in diagnosing what's wrong with the US political system.

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4 hours ago, oakville said:

That's a possibility. I hope Mika's mom is OK. She was ill last year after Dr Z passed away.

I hope Mika's mom is ok as they both have been absent from the set for so many weeks now.  I'm sorry if I missed it in the posts today but did they ever explain why they were going to be in DC tomorrow?

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36 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

I hope Mika's mom is ok as they both have been absent from the set for so many weeks now.  I'm sorry if I missed it in the posts today but did they ever explain why they were going to be in DC tomorrow?

No mention of why they will be in DC tomorrow.  My guess is they were away for the weekend (which would explain Mika's absence and Joe broadcasting from a bunker with a different backdrop to his CT bunker) and they are stopping to visit Mika's mom on the way home.

If they had been in DC for this morning, I think Joe would have been in more of a standard DC studio.

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48 minutes ago, cased said:

No mention of why they will be in DC tomorrow.  My guess is they were away for the weekend (which would explain Mika's absence and Joe broadcasting from a bunker with a different backdrop to his CT bunker) and they are stopping to visit Mika's mom on the way home.

If they had been in DC for this morning, I think Joe would have been in more of a standard DC studio.

Could Joe have a mobile bunker? That would be awesome. The bunker could be moved around the country in the event of natural disasters or nuclear attack.

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47 minutes ago, oakville said:

Could Joe have a mobile bunker? That would be awesome. The bunker could be moved around the country in the event of natural disasters or nuclear attack.

The question is, if such an event were to occur, would Mika be allowed in the mobile bunker?

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I like Ratigan (who recently married, btw), too. He had some pretty edgy commentaries on his MSNBC show.  It'd be fun to see him as a guest on Velshi and Ruhle more than on MJ.

But seeing him did remind me of a really minor story he told a reporter for a print article about Joe.  Dylan had been away from MSNBC for a few years and was a guest on MJ. Joe, entering the studio, saw him on the stage, crew all around, and ran toward him, jumping into his arms.

It sounds maybe nice, but in Ratigan's telling it was really a passive-aggressive bullying kind of move. Because Dylan isn't apparently a big guy and Joe is tall and heavy (maybe solid). Ratigan had the feeling this big mass with a lot of momentum had launched itself at him in order to embarrass him and show Joe's superior s trength. It was a dominance thing, and with crew all around, potentially embarrassing for Dylan  to fall over from Joe's stunt.

Anyway, as he told the reporter, he stuck his feet and braced himself and did everything possible to not fall over. And he made it and Joe didn't get him to fall down after all. But it was an anecdote that supported the image of Joe-behind-the-scenes as an obnoxious jerk to anyone he thinks he can successfully put down. .

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They are similar in height but that doesn't matter. (Joe 6'4" and Dylan 6'3"). I'm 5'7" and I wouldn't want someone 5'6" launching at me. Mass plus momentum plus surprise = sucker punch, with an audience no less. Joey is a tool. It must be hell behind the scenes sometimes (going by what we've seen on air, FFS). Over the years, I bet all the panel members have seen and put up with a lot.

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47 minutes ago, suomi said:

They are similar in height but that doesn't matter. (Joe 6'4" and Dylan 6'3"). I'm 5'7" and I wouldn't want someone 5'6" launching at me. Mass plus momentum plus surprise = sucker punch, with an audience no less. Joey is a tool. It must be hell behind the scenes sometimes (going by what we've seen on air, FFS). Over the years, I bet all the panel members have seen and put up with a lot.

I don't care if Joe was launching himself at me to give me a million dollars I would still run like hell (and then double back in case a couple of those Benjamins flew out of the pack).

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Hee, Joe was just ranting about something and he said "that's what I have been saying" and Mika hissed over him "that's what I have been saying".  The best part is it was a wide side shot of the panel and there was a great shot of Kasie's head snapping around and giving Josh Earnest the best look.  Good, I wish she'd throw her coffee at Mika because they played that stupid lightning bolt intro again.  We could have a drinking game today around how many times Joe says Mika's name, geez.

And clearly Mika got a lot of rest wherever she was, I think she's good for one or two posts in Mediaite today.

Good panel and I love Sam Stein.

Oh Angus King is going to be on, I have to remember to not touch the remote so I don't miss him.

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If you have DirecTVNow, SlingTV, XM (or another streaming service), you’re watching Hardball.  Regular cable and satellite are getting MJ.  It’s either a “screw up,” or Comcast is playing stupid games.

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5 minutes ago, suomi said:

At about 6:20 Joe begins rhapsodizing about how many important personages called him during the past couple days. Sam Stein: "Yes. I had a similar weekend."

HEE, that's why I love when he's on.  And Mika just mentioned she had spoken to many important people this weekend too.  So many important people, so little time.  On air guests must bang their heads on the car window a couple of times just to clear the crap out of their heads after sitting around that table with those two.  It says a lot that Willie would rather be in a country that has a billion tons of nuclear weapons pointed directly at it just to get away for a while.

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16 minutes ago, revbfc said:

If you have DirecTVNow, SlingTV, XM (or another streaming service), you’re watching Hardball.  Regular cable and satellite are getting MJ.  It’s either a “screw up,” or Comcast is playing stupid games.

Hardball has replaced Morning Joe in Oakville. I think it has something to do with the Olympics. ?

This happened to me 4 years ago during the Winter Olympics. I am stuck watching Hardball.

I saw 2 seconds of Mika & Joe in a dark studio in Washington.

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1 minute ago, oakville said:

I saw 2 seconds of Mika & Joe in a dark studio in Washington.

As it should be everyday.

Seriously I am sorry Oakville for you and those not able to watch.  Will they run it at a later time?  That's why when I tried to cut the cord I came crawling back to Comcast as that would happen to me all the time.

And Mika never misses an opportunity to be mean to Louis.  He must be a good guy that he never snarks back at her although throwing a couple of pitches past her head may get her to back off a little.

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OK, I switched to CNN. They are showing clips of Omarosa talking about VP Pence being worse than Trump in the Big Brother House.

Delaney is running for President!. He was on Morning Joe a few weeks ago.

Cuomo & Camerota ( ex Fox) look good together.

Very different commercials than Morning Joe. Cool Sculpting & the Kennedys Mini Series.

Just now, Chloesmom said:

As it should be everyday.

Seriously I am sorry Oakville for you and those not able to watch.  Will they run it at a later time?  That's why when I tried to cut the cord I came crawling back to Comcast as that would happen to me all the time.

And Mika never misses an opportunity to be mean to Louis.  He must be a good guy that he never snarks back at her although throwing a couple of pitches past her head may get her to back off a little.

I wonder if it will start later? My DVR said I should be watching Morning Joe.

Louis used to be on Morning Joe a few years ago, but he ended up on the pre Morning Joe show. I think he comes from a wealthy family. ?

Camerota interviewing Delany ( D- MD ) about  Infrastructure.

Trump is defunding some infrastructure plans to fund other projects. Selling off airports.

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Jeremy Bash is knowledgeable and well-spoken. I'm always glad when he is on. Mika has a new spray tan.

I was delayed posting this, it belongs with the Louis posts above:

About 6:40, Mika insults Louis Bergdorf by throwing to him for an Olympic update with the directive to not use his sports/sportscaster voice. Hey, he speaks like that lots less often than we hear the thunderbolt. I was wondering about him awhile back, when so many of The Girls On The Bus passed him on the right and got their own shows. Always a bridesmaid, never a bride. Louis is who Mika was before she hitched her thong wagon to Joe.

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3 minutes ago, suomi said:

before she hitched her thong wagon to Joe

Ok, that effectively cleared out my sinuses . . . HEE!

Oakville, isn't New Day a complete 180 from MJ?  Seriously, when I want to learn I watch them.  When I want to perfect my eye roll I watch MJ.

Oh and cue the Kennedy book, Chris Matthews is on.  Joe and Chris are discussing who is going to vote and Mika looks like she's grading papers.

14 minutes ago, oakville said:

Cuomo & Camerota ( ex Fox) look good together.

Cuomo had had a couple of partners but he and Alyson are by far the best.  I was going to post something on Previously but there isn't a forum for their show as I think they do an excellent job with their interviews and also know how to throw a little snark in too.

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1 minute ago, Chloesmom said:

Ok, that effectively cleared out my sinuses . . . HEE!

Oakville, isn't New Day a complete 180 from MJ?  Seriously, when I want to learn I watch them.  When I want to perfect my eye roll I watch MJ.

Oh and cue the Kennedy book, Chris Matthews is on.  Joe and Chris are discussing who is going to vote and Mika looks like she's grading papers.

Yes!. It a discussion with many clips. Abby Phillips who has Kasies ! job doesn't get a lightning bolt.

Dana Bash & Chris Cilizza.

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@ 7 am, Morning Joe re appears & Chris Matthews reappears on the set of Morning Joe. Wow!.

Maybe he has to appear on Morning TV during the Olympics.?

Joe is trying to be louder than Chris Matthews which is difficult.

Joe is talking about Women voting to take back the Senate. Joe is making predictions.

Joe has friends in Politics. Women will outvote men especially if it raining.

Joe doe not like getting challenged by Matthews.

Kasie & Costa get to sit at the Adult Table.

Why is Mika taking notes throughout all the discussions? Will there be a test at the end of the show?

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4 minutes ago, oakville said:

@ 7 am, Morning Joe re appears & Chris Matthews reappears on the set of Morning Joe. Wow!.

Maybe he has to appear on Morning TV during the Olympics.?

Joe is trying to be louder than Chris Matthews which is difficult.

Joe is talking about Women voting to take back the Senate. Joe is making predictions.

Joe has friends in Politics. Women will outvote men especially if it raining.

Joe doe not like getting challenged by Matthews.

Kasie & Costa get to sit at the Adult Table.

Why is Mika taking notes throughout all the discussions? Will there be a test at the end of the show?

YAY WELCOME BACK OAKVILLE!!!

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7:20 and I had to switch off.  Chris Matthews' fake guffawing was more than I could withstand.

I hate when the shows stops being about the news and starts being about THEM.   Like we give a shit who does the cooking.   Comparing yesterday's episode with today's, I have concluded that Mika is extremely disruptive and an attention hog.

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It's beyond time for MSNBC to put Chris Matthews out to pasture. It seems like he spends more time promoting his books then he does researching so he can be a competent host. I quit watching him years ago due those issues along with it seeming like he was spitting at people while speaking. Usually switch the channel if they say he's coming on any show I'm watching. I think all that hair bleach has fried his brain.

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Just now, Jaded said:

It's beyond time for MSNBC to put Chris Matthews out to pasture. It seems like he spends more time promoting his books then he does researching so he can be a competent host. I quit watching him years ago due those issues along with it seeming like he was spitting at people while speaking. Usually switch the channel if they say he's coming on any show I'm watching. I think all that hair bleach has fried his brain.

I don't mind him on Hardball, but when he shows up on MJ he reminds me of an obnoxious Muppet.  His hair ought to be feathery and swaying back and forth as he moves his head and jaw.

1 minute ago, Chloesmom said:

Millennium come back, Angus King is on next and I don't think one interrupts Sen. King and gets to keep all of their body parts.

be there in a sec.

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39 minutes ago, Chloesmom said:

HEE, that's why I love when he's on.  And Mika just mentioned she had spoken to many important people this weekend too.  So many important people, so little time.  On air guests must bang their heads on the car window a couple of times just to clear the crap out of their heads after sitting around that table with those two.  It says a lot that Willie would rather be in a country that has a billion tons of nuclear weapons pointed directly at it just to get away for a while.

This post deserves whatever prize we give out here for genius posts.  Especially that awesome last sentence. 

And now I'll forever be picturing Kaisie, Katty, et al banging their foreheads on the car windows when they leave at 9 a.m., probably headed home to a shower and a stiff drink. 

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oakville's right about Kasie.  She should't agree to be on this show.  She doesn't need it.

I watched her show Sunday and she had, what I thought, was an aggressive interview with Dr. Kelli Ward who's running for Jeff Flakes senate seat in Arizona.  The woman is pure evil and said the most insulting things about John McCain and ass kissing things about trump and his family.  Kasie pressed her to retract her statement about John McCain but she only threw out her trump buzz words and slogans.

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