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way2interested

way2interested

10 minutes ago, Cleanqueen said:

They better not end with a cliffhanger of Laurel in the lair as BS. I will rage. I am thinking it's a rather a WHAT and not  WHO...but I am not sure what that "what" could be. 

Yeah, the fact that even SA said "what I'm looking at" instead of "who I'm looking at" is making me think it's not BS necessarily. I mean, it could be something like an image of "Laurel" being alive on one of the screens, but that's the most I'm going with it having anything to do with BS. On the other hand, I think it just might be a realization of something rather than just a surprise appearance. Like, maybe finding out that Evelyn is a traitor, finding out who Prometheus is, finding out that reporter/DTH had ulterior motives, etc., something like that. 

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I'm going to guess its Prometheus related. Maybe he's looking at a message from Prometheus (Artemis's dead body?). Maybe it's another one of those "so it begins" messages? Maybe it's something on those big screens that reveals Prometheus?

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way2interested

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11 minutes ago, Chaser said:

That photo of Oliver and Diggle in the old lair. It looks  one computer on the desk, that would make it before Felicity joined in the timeline.

Ha, maybe the Olicity flashback scene is a throwaway scene where Oliver gives her another fake story for help or him almost bringing her into the fold before 114 forced him to.

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insomniadreams88

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I was thinking there would be various S1 flashbacks throughout 509, so I don't know if we can judge when the Olicity one might be from based on the photos. I just figured there wouldn't be any Russia flashbacks that episode and the S1 flashbacks would take their place? Could be that whatever we learn about Prometheus linked to S1 was an ongoing thread from back then that they're going to say fit in throughout S1? 

(I still want to see OTA going for drinks after the Dodger, but I doubt we'll ever get that.) 

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Chaser

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Considering 4x19, I think we can toss out any of their own comic canon.

I don't think it's going to be various S1 flashbacks. If the Pharmaceutical company is relevant that puts it around Vertigo (1x12) which was before Felicity found out. Vertigo was also the episode where Felicity gave Oliver the notebook (I wouldn't mind them flashing back to that scene). That notebook did resurfaced in S5. 

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way2interested

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I think it might be various s1 flashbacks of that certain time period (circa 112), since the promo photos already showed that there's at least two s1 scenes (along with MG apparently saying that there's an Olicity one as well, making that at least 3). Although I'm wondering how they are going to make the flashbacks anything relevant beyond literally showing us who Prometheus is. All you need is the one scene to show who it is, so any scene beyond that is already a mystery to me (not literally, I guess, since they're probably adding the other flashback scenes as buildup/context for the reveal, but it still seems somewhat of a waste because it's probably no one we know or care about). 

I am guessing that there might be some other connection reveal since both the flashbacks and the present day have a pharmaceutical company in them. Since Prometheus seems big into theatrics, I wonder if that parkour fight in the pics takes place in the same exact place as that flashback (since the same "Claybourne Pharmaceuticals Level 6" sign is in both a flashback scene and a present day scene) as part of the reveal. 

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Mellowyellow

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30 minutes ago, BkWurm1 said:

It's weird being not really worried about next week's episode.  

I know huh! It's like part of my routine to wake up, make my cup of tea and see what fresh hell has been unleashed in the spoilers thread and freak out. 

These days everyone is so chilled. 

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way2interested

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Not even that, but to be actually pretty interested/semi-excited for the next two episodes. This year's crossover actually seems like it's going to be really entertaining this time around (and I really want to see the alt-world in 508), and Arrow's mid season finales have always been their best episodes of the season/show in general (plus I just want to know what's going down with Prometheus). 

Heck, 505 was the only episode I was hesitant on because I'm never a fan of the pseudo moving on storyline that shows out on their main couples and that's where it looked like the episode was going.

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Sara's fighting while wearing what appears to be her bridesmaid gown which makes it seem like Deathstroke crashes the wedding. Isn't that a comic canon story? IDK. Help a girl out! Haha.

I hope she kicks his ass though.

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Primal Slayer

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4 hours ago, Angel12d said:

Sara's fighting while wearing what appears to be her bridesmaid gown which makes it seem like Deathstroke crashes the wedding. Isn't that a comic canon story? IDK. Help a girl out! Haha.

I hope she kicks his ass though.

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insomniadreams88

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5 hours ago, Chaser said:

If Diggle is GA and Felicity is just Rays wife with a casual mention of her company, I'll rage. 

I can't help but think that they may be putting Felicity with Ray in the dream world not just so it's one of those "this is off" things Oliver notices but maybe also so that someone who goes in the dream (Ray or maybe Diggle) maybe mentions to her after about her own company if that is in fact her 5B arc or part of it. Basically, they'll probably ignore any logic they have to in order to make it fit the story they want to tell. (I expect this will be true for most of what's going on in the dream world.)

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lemotomato

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That panel makes me want to thank everyone involved with Arrow that insisted on the show being as different from the comics as possible. I can't imagine anyone being able to keep their faces straight if that fishnet bridal outfit and the Robin Hood costume show up on set. 

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statsgirl

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It's a reminder to me of just how hypersexualized the comics that MG, AK and GB grew up with were.  The best female fighter and she's getting married in what is basically a swimsuit with fishnet stockings.  Maybe they really don't know what we're on about when we complain about Felicity, Thea and Iris.

27 minutes ago, insomniadreams88 said:

I can't help but think that they may be putting Felicity with Ray in the dream world not just so it's one of those "this is off" things Oliver notices but maybe also so that someone who goes in the dream (Ray or maybe Diggle) maybe mentions to her after about her own company if that is in fact her 5B arc or part of it. Basically, they'll probably ignore any logic they have to in order to make it fit the story they want to tell. (I expect this will be true for most of what's going on in the dream world.)

I wouldn't be surprised at a reference to Smoak Industries just so they can say "See, we're honouring Felicity's smarts".  I will be shocked if they actually do something like manufacturing the chip in 5B.

I can see Oliver accepting the scenario of his marriage to Laurel because that was always the plan, and Thea happy that her little nuclear family is together, but wouldn't Ray wonder that he's married to Felicity?  They barely dated a couple of months and it was Anna who he was in love with (I still think Felicity was a rebound because of the way he treated her).

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wonderwall

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Felicity is just a peripheral character because she isn't strapped up to the little dream pods like Ray, Diggle, Oliver, Sara are So idk why it'd be rage inducing. This is especially considering she may play a more important role in the real world, something that honors Felicity in a way the dream couldn't capture... That is, Felicity is always one you can rely on when your ass needs saving. 

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Mellowyellow

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They never showed us what his relationship with Anna was like but I can totally buy him imagining he's married to Felicity. She's on his level intellectually and he did say he loved her and would have stayed for her. 

I'm under the impression that she was very compatible with him and they would have the same hobbies in real life. 

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He continued, “It doesn’t feel so much like a 100th episode as it does the 100th issue of a comic. The storyline is more typical of what you would read in Arrow issue #100 than what you would necessarily watch in Arrow episode 100. Honestly we employed a device that is unusual for a television show but very much in keeping with what a lot of comic books reaching a milestone issue have done.”

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lemotomato

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Ironically, Arrow is why I never want to read comics again. 

Also, if they're going full comics! comics! comics! for the 100th, they should have made KC wear BC's wedding dress. Why half-ass it?

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EmilyBettFan

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1 hour ago, Chaser said:

A billion rings are one thing, but buckles just wouldn't go with that dress.

This is why I could never get what people saw in Laurel. KC was always playing herself. There was no real work done acting wise and her wearing all those rings just showed that to me.  In season one I don't think she was wearing those but bam season 2 came and that's all you saw. Which is a total KC thing. 

Not to compare them but, EBR wears a few rings but not on the show like that.

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calliope1975

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I know I'm getting the order of these statements incorrect, but first it was a love letter to the fans. Then a love letter to the show. I think I'm missing one other comment about who this is a love letter to. Now, it's like the 100th issue of a comic. Can TIIC get their talking points straight? 

While it is entirely possible that this episode could be a love letter to FANS! the SHOW! and to COMICS! please pardon my skepticism. 

Note to TPTB: Please, please, please prove me wrong. 

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insomniadreams88

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1 minute ago, ComicFan777 said:

According to Kreisberg, Laurel is the heart of the show and Oliver's great love. 

I don't know what show I've been watching 'cause I really didn't get this from Arrow.

I just saw that and was coming to write the exact same thing. I feel like what they're saying is not what I'm seeing on the show. And that also makes me very nervous for what we're going to see in episode 100 between Oliver and dream Laurel. I wonder if they remember anything they wrote for Oliver and Felicity last year other than that they broke up. 

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bijoux

bijoux

Thanks.

He's a funny dude. Why is he being interviewed about Arrow 100 and not The Flash? And man, if he loves Laurel that much, maybe he could have demostrated that while he was writing for her in the first two season.

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Velocity23

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Andrew Kreisberg is that idiot that didnt even know what was happening on Arrow s3 when he had Felicity and Ray crossover to the Flash in 1x17.

He also once claimed Oliver and Laurel are like Lois and Clark. But later on a journalist had to clarify that he was missunderstood.

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LeighAn

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I think he was interviewed at the 100 party ergo why he was talking about Arrow. Also Andrew was always more Laurel leaning then Greg Marc and Wendy but whats onscreen basically disputes that. I sometimes wondered if Oliver even liked Laurel as a person up until like 4x17 when the saintification and martyrdom of Laurel began.

In other news GreenArrowTV tweeted that there is a slight Olicity nod on the 100th and that Oliver has flashbacks to their scenes. So I'm guessing a meet cute with Felicity in dream world causes Oliver to have flashes of his real past and break the spell.

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