cheatincheetos October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 "Dr" Drew, you should have your license revoked. "Monkey". Safe words, really? What a damn mess. When Corey was asking her about her new boyfriend who allegedly slept in the same room as the kids, he started picking at his sleeve and scratching, as if Leah's fleas had jumped onto him. 4 Link to comment
Tatum October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 Adam really pissed me off when he was bitching about how he spent $30K in legal bills just to wind up in the same situation. Hey Mr. Rocket Scientist, you know what would have taken the same amount of time, yielded a better result, and would have been 100% FREE? Spending the months involved in the legal battle being consistently respectful to Chelsea and available to Aubree. That means being polite to Chelsea, and not driving Aubree around without a license, not dragging Aubree to his crackhead friend's house when Chelsea thinks Aubree is at his parents, being around when Aubree has her visitation with him, showing up when he says he will, paying child support, not introducing Aubree to every new fuckfriend he gets with low enough self esteem or desperate enough to touch him, etc. If he could have pulled that off for 6 months, Chelsea would prob be a lot more willing to compromise with him on custody. It's all moot though because we all know he's full of shit and being a good father has never been his priority. 9 Link to comment
GreatKazu October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 Adam really pissed me off when he was bitching about how he spent $30K in legal bills just to wind up in the same situation. Adam was sounding too much like Brandi Glanville (RHoBH) with her claims of paying her attorney $10k and then the amount would go up and up, depending how much Brandi had to drink that day. Adam claimed $40k at one point. As Jenelle might say, dude can't make up his mind. I imagine Adam has attorney bills, but how much of those are for his criminal acts and not for his family law issues? Also, just because he may have an attorney bill for a certain amount, that doesn't mean he actually paid it. It is probably sitting there collecting dust on Adam's dresser. Adam uses the MTV camera for his own reasons. It is not about his fight for his children. Not sure why the guy is so bothered by what people post to his Facebook and Instagram. He has mentioned those comments at least twice now. He uses the cameras to throw out there his version of the story in order to get people off his back, not to show that he is a loving father fighting for custody. Adam needs to look at Cory and Jo. Those are fathers who go to great lengths to be with their children. His conversation with the producer about if his scene was going to make it on the air, and then saying it wouldn't, was pretty telling. How I wish the producer would have told him, "You still get paid whether your footage airs or not" and then say "Are those new tattoos?" 2 Link to comment
cheatincheetos October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 Adam was sounding too much like Brandi Glanville (RHoBH) with her claims of paying her attorney $10k and then the amount would go up and up, depending how much Brandi had to drink that day. How I wish the producer would have told him, "You still get paid whether your footage airs or not" and then say "Are those new tattoos?" He had to shave his crotch because he was out of space for new tattoos. What has been seen cannot be unseen. 3 Link to comment
leighroda October 22, 2015 Share October 22, 2015 it just prices further that Adam is just dumb and irresponsible with money... He can't stay current with child support, but can pay an attorney whatever ungodly amount he paid!? That attorney saw him coming, there is absolutely no reason a judge would entertain the idea of increasing Adams custody, let alone primary custody. 2 Link to comment
Lemons October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 It's all moot though because we all know he's full of shit and being a good father has never been his priority. He did admit to fatherhood not being a priority when he was "younger." What he doesn't realize is that it takes time for these changes to make a difference. Someone should be advising him that he needs to keep up with visitations, keep clean, stay out of trouble and come back in 6 months or a year. If a lawyer took his money to try and get equal custody at this point in time, it's almost like stealing. The lawyer should have told him to come back when he is trouble free for a longer period of time. Leah is getting so much support and she still can't turn it around. Maybe having so much hate directed at Adam and lack of support will have the opposite effect and he will turn it around! 3 Link to comment
leighroda October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 I can't believe I am about to say something marginally favorable about Adam, I'm gonna go check the weather report in hell after this for snow. But, one thing I think is quite ridiculous is that Dr Drew was hard in Adam about his addiction issues, but then moments later praise Leah for hers. Granted he wasn't really referring to her addiction issues, he was praising her for handling depression and anxiety, so it's a little bit comparing apples and oranges, but I would venture to say addiction is a mental illness so it's a bit of a double standard. 5 Link to comment
SPLAIN October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 (edited) He did admit to fatherhood not being a priority when he was "younger." What he doesn't realize is that it takes time for these changes to make a difference. Someone should be advising him that he needs to keep up with visitations, keep clean, stay out of trouble and come back in 6 months or a year. If a lawyer took his money to try and get equal custody at this point in time, it's almost like stealing. The lawyer should have told him to come back when he is trouble free for a longer period of time. A lawyer is a lawyer, not a probation officer. Adam is the one who should know that his criminal acts on the road are not going to look good when he presents himself to the courts as he seeks custody. Who is to say the attorney did not advise Adam that his behavior might be a detriment to him receiving custody? Likely, the attorney is fully aware of Adam's track record simply because he would have received documentation from Chelsea's attorney as to the reasons why they won't allow Adam to have visitation. Adam has shown that he can't take orders from anyone. He thinks he is above the law and everyone. I could see Adam's attorney telling him how he is unlikely to get custody of Aubree, and I could see Adam saying "fuck it, let's just pursue it because I am clean and have stayed out of trouble." An attorney that is already the attorney of record for Adam, is not going to turn his client away if that is what the client wants to do. An attorney is there to represent and defend his client, not be their parent and tell them to grow up and call back in six months. Edited October 23, 2015 by SPLAIN 2 Link to comment
Tatum October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 I agree Splain. It should not be news to Adam that the courts aren't going to look too kindly at a guy who's been arrested 27 times. But if Adam were truly desperate to see more of his kid, instead of throwing a $30K Hail Mary, wouldn't it just make a lot more sense to start being more agreeable and respectful to Chelsea? You know, maybe if Chelsea didn't have to hear from Aubree that the Linds were regularly ignoring the parameters set and Adam was consistently not behind on his support obligations, and Chelsea didn't have to regularly comfort Aubree when Adam let her down, she might be a lot more open to more time. Look at how Corey deferred to Leah in the beginning and said she was a great mom, he just wanted to see the twins more during the weekdays. He didn't say it because it was true, he said it because pissing Leah off would just lead her to dig her heels in and Corey was willing to swallow his pride if it meant getting the girls more. Adam and Jenelle both piss me off because they spend all this time bitching to the cameras about how much they miss their kids, yet they don't do the simplest tasks (ie, show up when they say they will, don't get arrested) that would help them with their goals. It would be like me complaining that I'm overweight because of my low metabolism and spending hours bemoaning my poor genetics, and then sitting down to eat a giant cake topped with bacon. Every day. 4 Link to comment
Lemons October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 (edited) But if Adam were truly desperate to see more of his kid, instead of throwing a $30K Hail Mary, wouldn't it just make a lot more sense to start being more agreeable and respectful to Chelsea? You know, maybe if Chelsea didn't have to hear from Aubree that the Linds were regularly ignoring the parameters set and Adam was consistently not behind on his support obligations, and Chelsea didn't have to regularly comfort Aubree when Adam let her down, she might be a lot more open to more time. Chelsea is annoying, but yes, Adam does need to learn the old expression that you catch more bees with honey. He needs to learn to shut his mouth and keep working on his goals quietly. He's not doing himself any favors by constantly complaining. And Chelsea needs to stop grilling Aubrey after every visit and creating drama where there is none. Edited October 23, 2015 by Lemons Link to comment
SPLAIN October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 Adam can't be agreeable because it is not in his nature to be that way. He is about being in control. He is a major prick. He wants what he wants, his way or no way. He can't even follow the rules of the court which have expressed he cannot have his daughter without supervision. Now, why would it be expected of him to be more agreeable and manageable when it comes with dealing with Chelsea when he can't bother to follow the laws of the land or the courts? Pissing off Chelsea seems to be his goal, not being a great father to Aubree. He'd rather spend $30k on fees if it meant he can tell Chelsea "Fuck you" with a smile on his face as he drives away with Aubree in his truck and have unsupervised visitation. Chelsea can be annoying as hell, that has nothing to do with Adam breaking the law, violating the court order, and putting his daughter at risk. Adam is trying to control the support order as well because he knows if he gets more time, he can pay less to Chelsea, which must bother the hell out of him immensely. Again, the control factor. Adam and Jenelle both piss me off because they spend all this time bitching to the cameras about how much they miss their kids, yet they don't do the simplest tasks (ie, show up when they say they will, don't get arrested) that would help them with their goals Which tells me they are all talk and not about action. Does Adam really spend quality time with Paislee? I think whatever time he spends with her is solely for the cameras. The guy doth protest too much when it comes to the MTV cameras and how he is perceived. I think when the cameras are not around, Adam is not around Paislee. He dumps her at his parents house. They are the ones who want the kids around, not him. Jenelle is the same way. She is concerned more with the "haterz" so it looks good when she says how much she wants Jace around. She and Adam know they would be called out as shitty parents if they just admitted they didn't care to be with their kids. 6 Link to comment
Tatum October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 Right, Splain, if Adam can't get Aubree on his own terms, which basically means causing as much distress to Chelsea as possible, then he doesn't want her. And that's not someone who really wants to be a dad. Jenelle is the same. She could have had full custody of Jace, with Barbara's blessing, any time over the last 6 years. Boys, drugs, and sleeping were just always more important to her. Adam doesn't want to answer to Chelsea and Jenelle doesn't want to answer to Barb. And if custody of their kids becomes collateral damage in their power struggles, so be it. 4 Link to comment
Lemons October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 Pissing off Chelsea seems to be his goal, not being a great father to Aubree. Adam seems to be mad at the world, but I don't think he cares enough about Chelsea to put an effort into "pissing" her off. He sees her as having all the power and calling all the shots, but that's his fault for messing up so badly for years. He should be apologizing for those years and he's not. He's too angry. It's really a wait and see situation with Adam. He claims to want to change and he needs the opportunity to prove it. It's too soon to tell but I think he's sincere and I think he can do it. Link to comment
GreatKazu October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 Jenelle and Adam have had six years to get their kids and to prove they are decent parents. Time is going by and those kids are growing up. I don't see a sincere bone in Adam. All he wants is to have girls around, get more tattoos, drink, smoke pot, and not be forced to have to be a father. Adam is not mad at the world. He is mat at those who try to make him conform to the rules of society and being forced to be responsible to the kids he helped create. Part of being a father is paying support. He can pay an attorney to fight Chelsea, but he can't pay for his daughter's needs. Of course he is angry at Chelsea because she didn't abort Aubree when she had the chance. Chelsea is the constant reminder that he is a major asshole and fuck up. 5 Link to comment
ghoulina October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 Agreed. How much more time do they need to start doing the right thing? We've seen tangible improvements from Jo, Chelsea, even Kail. But Leah, Adumb, and Jenelle are the same as they ever were, just more cognizant of the cameras. Some of them try to play it up, but the facts tell a different story. 3 Link to comment
MissMel October 23, 2015 Share October 23, 2015 Adam doesn't want to do shit. He's only sober because he was on probation and monitored. If he can afford an attorney for anything, he can afford to not get behind and arrested on support for his children. Even if he is trying to recalculate it, he should still pay. The court can credit if he over pays. There is no excuse for his actions, on and off the road. 1 Link to comment
leighroda October 24, 2015 Share October 24, 2015 Agreed. How much more time do they need to start doing the right thing? We've seen tangible improvements from Jo, Chelsea, even Kail. But Leah, Adumb, and Jenelle are the same as they ever were, just more cognizant of the cameras. Some of them try to play it up, but the facts tell a different story. Ummm... Adam works at a gym, Jenelle can SAVE LIVES now, and is more classier, and Leah MONKEY...(please note that that is dripping with sarcasm). 1 Link to comment
SPLAIN October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 Adam doesn't want to answer to Chelsea and Jenelle doesn't want to answer to Barb. And if custody of their kids becomes collateral damage in their power struggles, so be it. Well put. Power struggle is exactly what Adam and Jenelle do. Jenelle loves to use words to hurt her mother. As for Adam, he knows that in the past he used words and actions to hurt Chelsea. Sadly, his words and actions are now hurting his daughter but, that's okay in his book because hurting Aubree by extension hurts Chelsea. He knows Chelsea has the upper hand in this situation, and Adam just can't deal with it. He once had Chelsea in the palm of his hand. Not anymore. So now, he goes through Aubree and is playing the same mind games on his daughter that he used to play on Chelsea. 1 Link to comment
Darknight October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 Can anyone tell me what Chelsea Saw In Adam at 16? I mean I get the puppy love as a teen but Adam could've have been that attractive or worth it to screw unprotected Link to comment
HeySandyStrange October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 Well, from what pictures I saw of a younger Adam, he looked good. Even kind of cute. Plus, Chelsea is a sweet girl but not very bright and was probably very sheltered. I wouldn't be surprised if he was Chelsea's first everything and she thought that meant they should be "forever". She was a clinger and had a very romanticized view of having the perfect little family. Luckily she's matured just enough to realize he is a shitty person now, but it took a lot of hard knocks with Adam for her to get there. 2 Link to comment
ghoulina October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 For some reason, Chelsea is incredibly insecure. Or was. She seems to be doing better now that she has made some real accomplishments in her life. But when she was a teenager, I can see her being the kind of girl who gravitates towards the guy who treats her like crap. Maybe Adumb was somehow "cool" and popular in high school, and the fact that he even deigned to make sarcastic comments to Chelsea just thrilled her to no end. 1 Link to comment
Joe Jitsu913 October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 (edited) I think Adam and Chelsea had two very different views of this relationship. For Adam, it was purely sexual. Chelsea was just a piece of ass to him. Chelsea OTOH, saw their relationship as akin to The Notebook. I think she even said as much. I believe they were only together for 3 months before she got knocked up. She romanticized this relationship believing that Adam was soooo in love with her when clearly he wasn't. Edited October 25, 2015 by Joe Jitsu913 1 Link to comment
GreatKazu October 25, 2015 Share October 25, 2015 I thought it was a Jenelle who compared their relationship to the Notebook? Or was it Catelynn? Link to comment
leighroda October 26, 2015 Share October 26, 2015 I think all girls in that age range at some point think of their relationships as the notebook 3 Link to comment
ktwo November 1, 2015 Share November 1, 2015 it just prices further that Adam is just dumb and irresponsible with money... He can't stay current with child support, but can pay an attorney whatever ungodly amount he paid!? That attorney saw him coming, there is absolutely no reason a judge would entertain the idea of increasing Adams custody, let alone primary custody. Heh. He probably thinks of that enormous sum as an "investment" because if he gets 50-50 custody, he won't have to pay Chelsea child support anymore. For those speculating about their relationship early on, keep in mind that Adam was a lot older than Chelsea and probably had a car etc. Think Maci and Raaaaahn - same dynamic. 1 Link to comment
poopchute November 8, 2015 Share November 8, 2015 I didn't realize Adam was a lot older than Chelsea. How much older is he?? Link to comment
Tatum November 8, 2015 Share November 8, 2015 I think 2 years- most media outlets this year have listed his age at 25 and Chelsea is 23 or 24. Link to comment
MaddyMaeboxerbabe November 8, 2015 Share November 8, 2015 Chelsea is 24. She had turned 18 when aubree was born. Link to comment
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