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2 hours ago, LexieLily said:

I hate the previews for tomorrow. What does Liz think is going to happen going to Sam's home and saying that Franco is in trouble? Sam doesn't care.

Elizabeth should not be in Franco's orbit, ever.

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2 minutes ago, LexieLily said:

I hate the previews for tomorrow. What does Liz think is going to happen going to Sam's home and saying that Franco is in trouble? Sam doesn't care.

Ugh, this is gonna be horrible.  "My super sweetie boyfriend is in trouble because of your drunk mom!".  Shut up, Liz.

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No one to marry them.. ok.. I thought that was why Griffin was there. Spinelli did a fine job though, I really prefer this actor over BA. 

I didn't notice the resident photographer Dylan at the wedding. Even for a small gathering I would expect Maxie to want someone taking shots of her big day. Nathan really dropped the ball. The wedding cape really fit in with the white showgirl theme but that dress was a bit of a boring letdown. Maxie has lost her status as fashionista.

Also, I know she is gone for good but I really wanted Brit to show up for Nathan.  I prefer her over Nina.

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13 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Ugh, this is gonna be horrible.  "My super sweetie boyfriend is in trouble because of your drunk mom!".  Shut up, Liz.

"My super-sweetie boyfriend that ASSAULTED YOU AND FAUX-RAPED YOU is in trouble because they think he murdered my rapist that he kidnapped and locked in a dog cage! What do you meeean you won't help him, Sam?"

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5 minutes ago, lovelynn said:

No one to marry them.. ok.. I thought that was why Griffin was there. Spinelli did a fine job though, I really prefer this actor over BA. 

I didn't notice the resident photographer Dylan at the wedding. Even for a small gathering I would expect Maxie to want someone taking shots of her big day. Nathan really dropped the ball. The wedding cape really fit in with the white showgirl theme but that dress was a bit of a boring letdown. Maxie has lost her status as fashionista.

Also, I know she is gone for good but I really wanted Brit to show up for Nathan.  I prefer her over Nina.

Mac was also an option to marry them, which Robin should know given Mac married her and Patrick last year.

Good point about Dillon, he should have been there as her co-worker, friend, former brother-in-law, etc.  And it would have been sweet if he had gotten to meet Georgie's namesake.

And yes, you are me, I much preferred Britt as Nathan's sister vs. Nina.  Too bad Dr. O couldn't slip in a mention.

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Is it just me or is something really wrong with KSt?  I get that she's been sick and all that, but for someone who was getting married, Maxie just didn't seem that into it and never fully smiled at any time.  There was no excitement from her, not even when Georgie showed up.  It was all subdued reaction throughout.  I'm worried about her.  

Totally thought they were going with Griffin when Lucy got delayed.  Totally forgot that Spin had gotten ordained.  Seemed fitting that he was the one to marry them, though it was too bad it was an actor that we have no connection to (and I'm saying that as someone who hates Spin with the heat of a thousand suns).  

Where the heck was Dillon?  

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2 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Mac was also an option to marry them, which Robin should know given Mac married her and Patrick last year.

Good point about Dillon, he should have been there as her co-worker, friend, former brother-in-law, etc.  And it would have been sweet if he had gotten to meet Georgie's namesake.

And yes, you are me, I much preferred Britt as Nathan's sister vs. Nina.  Too bad Dr. O couldn't slip in a mention.

OMG. I didn't even know I wanted this but now am disappointed at this missed opportunity.

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So nobody told Griffin that Claudette is DEAD?  Not Maxie or Lulu or Nathan or Dante?  Not Anna, who is supposed to care about him and is supposed to have a close relationship with him? Despite all of them knowing that Griffin at one point LOVED Claudette, and still had unresolved feelings for her? None of these assholes told him what happened?

No Lucas and Brad at the wedding? No Grandma? No Scott or Kevin? No Dillon or Valerie? No random extras to fill up the empty chairs? Fail GH.

I hate Sam and Jason. I hate when they look down at others, I hate when they act like they are SO MUCH BETTER than people like Julian. Just freaking ONCE, I would like someone to sneer back and throw Jason's kill history in his face and ask Sam how much of a turn on it is in the bedroom? Just fucking PUSH that shit BACK in their smug faces.

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2 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Is it just me or is something really wrong with KSt?  I get that she's been sick and all that, but for someone who was getting married, Maxie just didn't seem that into it and never fully smiled at any time.  There was no excitement from her, not even when Georgie showed up.  It was all subdued reaction throughout.  I'm worried about her.  

She did seem subdued when Georgie came but to be fair the lines were just "Georgie! I'm so glad you're here!"

There is something off. Could be she's depressed, could be she has skin issues making her feel self-conscious, or maybe she just simply plain old is crappy at acting now. 

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5 minutes ago, Vella said:

No Lucas and Brad at the wedding? No Grandma? No Scott or Kevin? No Dillon or Valerie? No random extras to fill up the empty chairs? Fail GH.

Grandma?

I feel you on Lucas, Brad, Dillon, and Kevin (given he's the FOTB's best friend).  But why would Scotty or Valerie be there?

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6 minutes ago, Vella said:

So nobody told Griffin that Claudette is DEAD?  Not Maxie or Lulu or Nathan or Dante?  Not Anna, who is supposed to care about him and is supposed to have a close relationship with him? Despite all of them knowing that Griffin at one point LOVED Claudette, and still had unresolved feelings for her? None of these assholes told him what happened?

No Lucas and Brad at the wedding? No Grandma? No Scott or Kevin? No Dillon or Valerie? No random extras to fill up the empty chairs? Fail GH.

I hate Sam and Jason. I hate when they look down at others, I hate when they act like they are SO MUCH BETTER than people like Julian. Just freaking ONCE, I would like someone to sneer back and throw Jason's kill history in his face and ask Sam how much of a turn on it is in the bedroom? Just fucking PUSH that shit BACK in their smug faces.

I remember one time back in 2006 when Liz got to throw it back in Sam's face that she was always getting herself into trouble and needing Jason to risk his life saving her.  Sam stood there with her mouth agape with nothing to say in return.  I loved it.  Of course that writing smack down didn't last.  Thanks Frons/Guza.  Not.  

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11 minutes ago, Vella said:

So nobody told Griffin that Claudette is DEAD?  Not Maxie or Lulu or Nathan or Dante?  Not Anna, who is supposed to care about him and is supposed to have a close relationship with him? Despite all of them knowing that Griffin at one point LOVED Claudette, and still had unresolved feelings for her? None of these assholes told him what happened?

No Lucas and Brad at the wedding? No Grandma? No Scott or Kevin? No Dillon or Valerie? No random extras to fill up the empty chairs? Fail GH.

I hate Sam and Jason. I hate when they look down at others, I hate when they act like they are SO MUCH BETTER than people like Julian. Just freaking ONCE, I would like someone to sneer back and throw Jason's kill history in his face and ask Sam how much of a turn on it is in the bedroom? Just fucking PUSH that shit BACK in their smug faces.

Sigh.  Doncha know that Valerie isn't allowed to be in the same room as Dante and Lulu.  Some fans might get upset. 

Griffin should have told before this about Claudette's death.   Lucas, Brad, Kevin, Dillon and Valerie should have been at that wedding for sure!!  

4 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Grandma?

I feel you on Lucas, Brad, Dillon, and Kevin (given he's the FOTB's best friend).  But why would Scotty or Valerie be there?

Valerie  is a co-worker and, supposedly, 2015 was forgotten long ago.  

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7 minutes ago, Aurora2 said:

Valerie  is a co-worker and, supposedly, 2015 was forgotten long ago.  

Yeah, I guess.  But I wouldn't say she and Nathan are really friends.  And when people like Lucas and Dillon are missing, her absence didn't strike me as outrageous, you know?

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39 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Ugh, this is gonna be horrible.  "My super sweetie boyfriend is in trouble because of your drunk mom!".  Shut up, Liz.

The only way I'll ever have tolerance for Sam/Liz scenes is when the show allows them to hate each other. 

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I get Spinelli doing the ceremony but they could have gotten anyone else to do the announcement at the reception. (Which was actually kinda nice to see a reception. Honestly it was almost as full of people as the friggin' Nurses Ball.)

@Perkie , speaking of KSt being off, at said reception when Nathan and Maxie kissed, afterwards Maxie had this sarcastic look like, "okay thanks that's enough." 

They must have blown what budget they have between the wedding and the boss' new set.

Nina isn't necessarily wrong about it being too soon for Charlotte to find out Lulu is her mom, but I have a feeling if Lulu said Charlotte should get a new coat Nina would be like, "it's much too soon for her to have a pink coat. If she were any kind of mother she wouldn't want her to get a pink coat right now."

Anna's hair was great.

I'm going to guess Olivia won't be on for a while, because that was a lot of Olivia to pack into one day. Of course it might just be that crying Olivia makes it feel like there's that much more.

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3 minutes ago, ulkis said:

Nina isn't necessarily wrong about it being too soon for Charlotte to find out Lulu is her mom, but I have a feeling if Lulu said Charlotte should get a new coat Nina would be like, "it's much too soon for her to have a pink coat. If she were any kind of mother she wouldn't want her to get a pink coat right now."

Why is Nina allowed to make any comments whatsoever or have any opinions on what is best for Charlotte? She's been her step-mother for a day or two at most and known her for two months, barely.

Lulu IS going too fast, but I have a feeling that if this was solely up to Valentin and Nina (mostly Nina), Charlotte wouldn't ever know her true link to Lulu.

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30 minutes ago, TeeVee329 said:

Yeah, I guess.  But I wouldn't say she and Nathan are really friends.  And when people like Lucas and Dillon are missing, her absence didn't strike me as outrageous, you know?

Not outrageous - but, if Jordan is going to be, why not Valerie? 

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I get Spinelli doing the ceremony but they could have gotten anyone else to do the announcement at the reception

Absolutely.  By having Robin say it, followed by Felicia's "did you get officiated" ,  when both of them would know that Mac had officiated last time, just made the two of them look like dummies.  

 

3 minutes ago, ulkis said:

t said reception when Nathan and Maxie kissed, afterwards Maxie had this sarcastic look like, "okay thanks that's enough." 

And she never smiled with her teeth, it was always that fakey looking smile people do with their lips.  To the point where I was wondering if maybe she had broken a front tooth just before filming and had to hide it.  Also, we never see her say her vows.  Nathan starts it then we hear them say it over the flashbacks.  It was all just weird.  

As for those flashbacks, I know KSt was pregnant in the scene where Nathan shows up the first time, and was just back from mat leave on the next one, but holy, talk about looking completely different than she does now.  Again, I get that she's been sick, but she's way way too skiny now.  

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1 minute ago, TeeVee329 said:

but, if Jordan is going to be, why not Valerie? 

Jordan is Nathan's boss and works with him on a lot of cases.  Valerie is a rookie that hasn't had scenes with any of the other PCPD members, except Jordan to discuss the evul that is Curtis.  Personally, I was fine with Valerie not being there.  Dillon on the other hand, was in the office two minutes ago, trying to prevent her from leaving, yet now, he's not there.  

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10 minutes ago, Perkie said:

And she never smiled with her teeth, it was always that fakey looking smile people do with their lips.

Yeah, I couldn't put my finger on it, but you're right. Maybe that's what made her look sarcastic.

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No Lucas and Brad at the wedding?

I read somewhere that RC is in Mexico shooting a movie, so I don't blame them for Lucas not being there.  Also, Lucas didn't go to his own sister's wedding so going to his cousin's would be a shocker.  Though, I wouldn't want to go to JaSam's wedding at Casa Corinthos either.  

 

Gotta say, would have loved to have seen Britt and Frisco hiding in a corner, watching the ceremony, without anyone spotting them.  

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14 minutes ago, Aurora2 said:

Not outrageous - but, if Jordan is going to be, why not Valerie? 

Jordan has a stronger tie to Nathan as his boss than Valerie does as a colleague. We get no references to Nathan and Valerie doing anything together. 

Though I'd love to see Lulu trying to simultaneously shoot daggers at both Nina and Valerie. Heh.

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1 minute ago, Perkie said:

I read somewhere that RC is in Mexico shooting a movie, so I don't blame them for Lucas not being there.  Also, Lucas didn't go to his own sister's wedding so going to his cousin's would be a shocker.  Though, I wouldn't want to go to JaSam's wedding at Casa Corinthos either.  

I don't think RC's movie impacted Lucas being there, we know he filmed those scenes with Sam we saw a week or so ago around the same time.

And even if it did, how hard is it to throw in a line that Lucas got stuck at the hospital, Lucas has the flu, etc.?  But I'm guessing Jelly don't even know that Lucas is Maxie's cousin and, in fact, has had a familial relationship with her longer than Sam OR Carly.

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2 minutes ago, backhometome said:

God the preview makes me so angry. Why is Liez going to Sams house to moan about her serial killer sexual assaulter boyfriend. On what planet would Sam give a fuck.

And somehow you know Liz is going to get all smirky and judgey if Sam doesn't immediately volunteer her services to help for Jake's sake.

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Lucas is Maxie's cousin and, in fact, has had a familial relationship 

Totally agree but at the same time, when was the last time we saw Lucas and Maxie in scenes together?  

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Why is Liez going to Sams house to moan about her serial killer sexual assaulter boyfriend

Because tiic hate RH and want Liz to look as bad as possible.   

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38 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Jordan is Nathan's boss and works with him on a lot of cases.  Valerie is a rookie that hasn't had scenes with any of the other PCPD members, except Jordan to discuss the evul that is Curtis.  Personally, I was fine with Valerie not being there.  Dillon on the other hand, was in the office two minutes ago, trying to prevent her from leaving, yet now, he's not there.  

 

26 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

Jordan has a stronger tie to Nathan as his boss than Valerie does as a colleague. We get no references to Nathan and Valerie doing anything together. 

Though I'd love to see Lulu trying to simultaneously shoot daggers at both Nina and Valerie. Heh.

I'm for any and all moves that bring more life and variety to the sometimes moribund foursome of the two handsome cops and their pretty, sometimes ditzy, wives.  Therefore, I am way past ready to develop that age group more with characters like Valerie, Dillon, Spin and even Griffin (who, age-wise looks as if he belongs to that grouping).  As well, I'm all for having more working cops visible. 

So I continue to indulge in some "what COULD have beens" ... and "what SHOULD have beens." 

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1 hour ago, Vella said:

So nobody told Griffin that Claudette is DEAD?  Not Maxie or Lulu or Nathan or Dante?  Not Anna, who is supposed to care about him and is supposed to have a close relationship with him? Despite all of them knowing that Griffin at one point LOVED Claudette, and still had unresolved feelings for her? None of these assholes told him what happened?

That must have been what Anna was talking about when she was saying "so much" had happened; and then later when Griffin asked her about it as they were taking their seats, she said it was a conversation for another time. 

But to be snarky-fair to all those folks, they generally only talk to Griffin when they want him to do something for them, so . . . (shrug)

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17 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Because tiic hate RH and want Liz to look as bad as possible.   

It's amazing how they continuously make Liz look in these scenes with Sam. Liz not only would never date Franco, but she also would never go to a woman who had been sexually assaulted by that dude to try to get her to help him.

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So nobody told Griffin that Claudette is DEAD? 

In all fairness, we haven't seen Griffin in about a month, until he showed up yesterday at Sonny's house on his way to the wedding.  Plus, Anna was going to tell him but then decided it could wait til after the ceremony.  Plus, everyone else found out Claudette was dead maybe 2 days ago in PC time.  

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 but she also would never go to a woman who had been sexually assaulted by that dude to try to get her to help him.

Especially when the other person invovled is Sam's own mother.  

But then again, the Liz I know and love would never date a serial killer/rapist in the first place.  

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2 minutes ago, Perkie said:

Especially when the other person invovled is Sam's own mother.  

But then again, the Liz I know and love would never date a serial killer/rapist in the first place.  

Exactly. 

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2 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Ugh, this is gonna be horrible.  "My super sweetie boyfriend is in trouble because of your drunk mom!".  Shut up, Liz.

Liz is gonna be all kinds of insufferable tomorrow. I already feel my rage building. And then I assume Sam, since she's not allowed to be anything but compliant and sweet now, will end up agreeing to help Franco, which will honestly send me over the edge.

2 hours ago, Vella said:

I hate Sam and Jason. I hate when they look down at others, I hate when they act like they are SO MUCH BETTER than people like Julian. Just freaking ONCE, I would like someone to sneer back and throw Jason's kill history in his face and ask Sam how much of a turn on it is in the bedroom? Just fucking PUSH that shit BACK in their smug faces.

This. So much this.

33 minutes ago, ulkis said:

That reminds me, this show didn't have either Franco OR Sonny so it gets a bonus point.

Hey, maybe that's why I actually enjoyed this ep!

I don't give a shit about Maxie/Nathan and I forgot about like at least 90% of the stuff in the flashbacks, but I still thought the wedding was mostly cute and fun. Sure, there was a lot of stupid, but I enjoyed it for the most part. And I actually liked Maxie's dress, hair, and makeup. KSt looked the best she's looked in months imo. But damn those flashbacks really illuminated just how different she looks now. I worry about her, too, @Perkie.

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5 minutes ago, HeatLifer said:

UO: I kinda like Blake Berris. Wish he could have been brought on as a new character. Never liked Spin all that much; his shtick got super annoying. 

I so agree. I liked Blake Berris on Days and I really liked him today on GH. I found myself wishing they'd bring him back as another character, too. I mean they don't really need any more characters, but at the same time most of the current characters suck so!

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I liked Blake Berris; I didn't even think he did that badly in the role considering he was brought in super last minute. It was just too bad so much of this stint depended on the audience being familiar with him.

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24 minutes ago, ulkis said:

I liked Blake Berris; I didn't even think he did that badly in the role considering he was brought in super last minute. It was just too bad so much of this stint depended on the audience being familiar with him.

I don't know why they didn't rewrite the Spinelli scenes if BA couldn't be there. Any scene with Spin could have been done with someone else. But props to Blake Berris for doing a good job with a very particular character.

Mac is so the best parent in PC, hands down. His delight at being with all his girls was so sweet.

Hey, André, why don't you butt out of your girlfriend's professional life. Ugh. He's turning into a gross control freak.

Has Griffin officially left the priesthood? Because I think even a priest on leave is able to officiate at weddings. I cracked up as he loitered in the background. And he's the last to find out about Claudette.

Wow, Julian is getting the rewrite: Olivia admitted to Ned that Julian loved his kids. 

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5 hours ago, Vella said:

I hate Sam and Jason. I hate when they look down at others, I hate when they act like they are SO MUCH BETTER than people like Julian. Just freaking ONCE, I would like someone to sneer back and throw Jason's kill history in his face and ask Sam how much of a turn on it is in the bedroom? Just fucking PUSH that shit BACK in their smug faces.

Preach!  I hope for this every single ep.  They are truly insufferable.

I enjoyed the wedding, though Dillon's absence was glaring since he was so involved with the pre-wedding shenanigans.  Didn't like the decor or whatever that thing was covering up Maxie's dress, but otherwise...  It wasn't an old school soap opera wedding, where everyone in town, including those who hated the bride and/or groom and vice versa, showed up, but it was a better effort than the ones that take place in someone's living room and only very immediate family show up.  And, I may be at a table for one, but I like Nathan.  I, too, worry about KSt, though.  I've never been a fan of Maxie, but KSt has always brought a spark and an energy to the role that just isn't there these days.

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6 hours ago, Vella said:

I hate Sam and Jason. I hate when they look down at others, I hate when they act like they are SO MUCH BETTER than people like Julian. Just freaking ONCE, I would like someone to sneer back and throw Jason's kill history in his face and ask Sam how much of a turn on it is in the bedroom? Just fucking PUSH that shit BACK in their smug faces.

Sooooo smug!  Between the two of them they've killed and conned more people than many in PC--yet they sit in judgment?  Take several seats, you insufferable pair.

Are we sure Maxie wanted to marry Nathan?  KSt played it like Maxie was going to a funeral, not her wedding.

And to file under "Once You See It, You Can't Unsee It," faux-Spinelli looked and even had facial expressions like James Franco.  Now I can't not see that when they show him.  Ugh.

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8 minutes ago, ulkis said:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2ZeDkXWgAcs9qs?format=jpg&name=large

It's stuff like this that really reinforces they do it all in one take. No one can take a moment to say, "hey, please try not to look as if you're at the dentist."

I really thought she played the wedding all wrong. I think she was going for touched/sentimental but she just looked sad/depressed and like she didn't want to get married. Robin looked like she was the one walking down the aisle, TBH. 

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9 hours ago, HeatLifer said:

Yes, show, let's put Dr. O right next to Robin. FOH.

OMG, that was ridiculous! But, I really liked the way KMc played that scene. Her expression's were like, "Lady, don't touch me or my daughter!" And you know that wasn't on the page. That was all Kimberly.

I am still waiting for Robin to have an interaction with Valentin.

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6 minutes ago, rags said:

OMG, that was ridiculous! But, I really liked the way KMc played that scene. Her expression's were like, "Lady, don't touch me or my daughter!" And you know that wasn't on the page. That was all Kimberly.

I am still waiting for Robin to have an interaction with Valentin.

Kim is amazing in the background of scenes. Always has been. Her and JT were a hoot, too.

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4 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

I don't know why they didn't rewrite the Spinelli scenes if BA couldn't be there. Any scene with Spin could have been done with someone else. But props to Blake Berris for doing a good job with a very particular character.

Mac is so the best parent in PC, hands down. His delight at being with all his girls was so sweet.

Hey, André, why don't you butt out of your girlfriend's professional life. Ugh. He's turning into a gross control freak.

Has Griffin officially left the priesthood? Because I think even a priest on leave is able to officiate at weddings. I cracked up as he loitered in the background. And he's the last to find out about Claudette.

Wow, Julian is getting the rewrite: Olivia admitted to Ned that Julian loved his kids. 

I feel like we are going to find out Andre is some kind of master criminal.  Otherwise, I don't get the way he is acting.

35 minutes ago, ulkis said:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2ZeDkXWgAcs9qs?format=jpg&name=large

It's stuff like this that really reinforces they do it all in one take. No one can take a moment to say, "hey, please try not to look as if you're at the dentist."

I am not a regular viewer and I have noticed KS being very odd with her mouth, not smiling, not showing her teeth.  Originally I thought it was her being self conscious about her face, but that is not it.  She has been looking down, very awkward, and never smiling.  So something is clearly going on.  My heart goes out to her, I hope all is well, and this will pass.

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