NFL Thread

[Carey]

I have no idea what's happening on my end.  This is the second time in as many days that my post has ended in the wrong thread.  Totally unbelievable.  From the baseball area but before Giants/Packers kickoff...  

1 hour ago, Carey said:

Well, I was planning on putting all of my Sunday picks at the same time + MNF.  Despite being unavailable for the second consecutive Sunday full of great action, I'll get them shortly before the 1:00 kickoff.  However, I guess I better post for the early Sunday 9:30 game.

Green Bay, as the designated home team, is favored by 8.5 over New York in London.  41.5 is the over/under.

The Packers & Giants game ends in a tie.  This isn't vintage Packers and the GMEN haven't been that bad so far.  So New York definitely covers, and forget the over hitting here.  Packers struggled at home against the all but winless Patriots.  It's a tough spot to shine for anyone, so this could be low-scoring

[twoods]

I’m interested to see how Cooper Rush will do against the Rams defense. Rams aren’t as good as last year so far, but if he does well then the Cowboys really do have a dilemma when Dak comes back. 

[Xeliou66]

23 minutes ago, twoods said:

I’m interested to see how Cooper Rush will do against the Rams defense. Rams aren’t as good as last year so far, but if he does well then the Cowboys really do have a dilemma when Dak comes back. 

I’m intrigued by that matchup as well - this is the biggest test for Rush as the starting QB, and while the Rams haven’t been as strong this year as their talent level would suggest, they are very talented, but on offense they’ve got to get guys other than Kupp the ball, they need to spread it out more, I think they really miss Van Jefferson who’s out with an injury as he’s their #2 receiver and a good deep threat. 

[Carey]

Buffalo, Cleveland, Jacksonville, Minnesota, Detroit, New Orleans, Miami, Tampa Bay, Tennessee, San Francisco, Arizona, Dallas, Cincinnati, Kansas City for Week 6 picks.

Key games against the spread (FanDuel content)

Buffalo favored by 14 45.5 over/under.  Bills cover and over hits

Los Angeles is favored by 5.5. Dallas covers, and the over hits

Baltimore is favored by 3. Cincinnati covers, under hits (47.5 O/U)

Chiefs favored by 7.5. Kansas City sending a message is achieved under hits (51.5 O/U)

14 is way too much; it is a first for Pittsburgh since the merger.  

However, Vegas could’ve made it twice that, and I’d still pick Buffalo to cover.  A 28+ rout is accurate, even with Pickett, who I think can put up points.  However, there are some injuries on the offensive side, and the WRs tend to blow it which could lead to turnovers (even with a depleted secondary for the Bills).  There is nothing scary right now in terms of the Steelers defense.  Buffalo, who will be able to afford to look ahead to Kansas City, will have revenge on their mind, as Pittsburgh pulled the upset last year that contributed to having to travel to Arrowhead to face the mentioned Chiefs.  To be honest, Buffalo can hit the over with Pittsburgh’s help.

Eventually Cooper Rush will go down, if he’s given the opportunity to do so.  However, while the Rams aren’t that good, there are some people who will return.  So they’ll be better, but I just don’t think it’ll be this week.

I’d be surprised if Cincinnati blows out Baltimore for the third consecutive time.  I think they still win, and what’ll help is the extra time off.  The Ravens aren’t decimated and they’re at home at night.  The 3-point line is perfect.

Kansas City wasn’t created to lose to Vegas, especially given everything they’ve done for the past several years.  I don’t know if the Chiefs can score 52 but they don’t need to

[meowmommy]

Take that, you scum-sucking, COVID-denying, arrogant arsewipe!

Of course, the story this week will be all about what's wrong with the Packers and not what's right with the Giants.

[mojoween]

Push the door open, stand seductively up against the jam, cigarette ablaze.  “Well hello there.  How y’all doing?”

[Magog]

Great job by Daniel Jones & the Giants defense on that goal line stand to stop Aaron Rogers & the Packers. Seeing Aaron Rogers being sad after a loss brings a smile to my face.

53 minutes ago, Xeliou66 said:

1 hour ago, twoods said:

I’m interested to see how Cooper Rush will do against the Rams defense. Rams aren’t as good as last year so far, but if he does well then the Cowboys really do have a dilemma when Dak comes back. 

I’m intrigued by that matchup as well - this is the biggest test for Rush as the starting QB, and while the Rams haven’t been as strong this year as their talent level would suggest, they are very talented, but on offense they’ve got to get guys other than Kupp the ball, they need to spread it out more, I think they really miss Van Jefferson who’s out with an injury as he’s their #2 receiver and a good deep threat. 

The only thing I'm intrigued about this is that neither the Cowboys (as always) or the Rams (very scummy) are very likable or rootable. Its just another game in the NFL where either way, I lose.

[Xeliou66]

Giants upset the Packers in London, playing a great second half. The Giants are off to a great start, I think having a healthy Saquon Barkley makes a lot of difference, and their O-Line is finally improved and playing well. Daboll is doing a great job with the Giants. The Packers are struggling, their defense is just not living up to expectations and something seems off with them, I expected their defense to carry them while their offense figures things out, but they haven’t done that. 

[meowmommy]

1 minute ago, Magog said:

The only thing I'm intrigued about this is that neither the Cowboys (as always) or the Rams (very scummy) are very likable or rootable. Its just another game in the NFL where either way, I lose.

Can't stand the Rams, but will be rooting like hell for them to beat Dall-ass.

[Jx223]

That was a very good win for the Giants. I have been very impressed with Brian Daboll as a head coach this season. He's showing so far that he is a pretty good coach. His players care for and play hard for him.

Daniel Jones has definitely had his struggles (though not everything is his fault) but he also plays hard for this coach, even after he makes mistakes. I think it's largely because Brian holds him accountable and encourages him to continue to try and do better.

The Giants are playing competitive football and are winning. They are in a really good spot right now.

Edited October 9, 2022 by Jx223

[meowmommy]

17 hours ago, Carey said:

Condolences to Mr. Jim Nantz and family on the passing of his mother (she was 91).  I believe this was about two decades removed from Jim's father.  News made by Adam Zucker on College Football Today.

What is Jim Nantz doing calling a game today?  Was it his idea or the network's?

He looks like hell, BTW.

[Popples]

[Xeliou66]

Teddy Bridgewater injured and rookie Skylar Thompson is in for the Dolphins. This will be interesting to watch. 

[Xeliou66]

Kirk Cousins with 17 completions in a row to start the game, Justin Jefferson with over 100 yards receiving already, and the Vikings lead the Bears 21-3.

[Fukui San]

I just reminded myself that all world defense San Francisco gets to face Baker Mayfield and Carolina later today. Oof.

[Xeliou66]

Bucs up 13-0 on the Falcons at halftime, Brady is playing well after a slow start and the Falcons offense is dead as a doornail. It’s time to put in Ridder to replace Mariota, Mariota is a shit QB who can’t lead them anywhere, time to find out whether Ridder has what it takes to be an NFL QB.

Bills up 31-3 on the Steelers in an absolute beatdown in Buffalo.

Browns up 21-17 on the Chargers in a good battle. 

[Colleenna]

Good lort. I haven't seen the Steelers play this badly since the 80s, the days of the shower curtain defense.  

Just tank the rest of the season and get a first round draft pick. 

[bluegirl147]

2 minutes ago, Colleenna said:

Good lort. I haven't seen the Steelers play this badly since the 80s, the days of the shower curtain defense.  

Just tank the rest of the season and get a first round draft pick. 

Is it tanking the season if you aren't trying to lose?

I remember those 80s games.  I didn't watch and I'm not going to watch any more this season.  I love my team but I got better things to do with my Sundays

[Colleenna]

Just now, bluegirl147 said:

Is it tanking the season if you aren't trying to lose?

I remember those 80s games.  I didn't watch and I'm not going to watch any more this season.  I love my team but I got better things to do with my Sundays

Thank Dog that Penguins hockey starts this week.

[twoods]

As a Bills fan even I think that game is painful to watch. 
 

Man do I hate the Bucs. 

[BlueSkies]

I almost feel bad for the Steelers almost...

5 minutes ago, twoods said:

As a Bills fan even I think that game is painful to watch. 
 

Man do I hate the Bucs. 

It's hard to believe just one year ago they went into Buffalo and won the opener there 

[DrSpaceman73]

Colts broncos. :  no one can play a more boring game game than us!  

Texans jags :  challenge accepted!

[AimingforYoko]

27 minutes ago, DrSpaceman73 said:

Colts broncos. :  no one can play a more boring game game than us!  

Texans jags :  challenge accepted!

AFC South action: It's Faaaaaaaantastic.

And I present your NFC North leaders, the Minnesota Vikings.

[Xeliou66]

Vikings gave up an 18 point lead but Cousins led them on a game winning drive and they win it 29-22 over the Bears.

Falcons have cut the Bucs lead to 6, I love how this Falcons team doesn’t quit, despite not having nearly as much talent as the Bucs.

[twoods]

Another ridiculous Brady ass kissing call. That was not roughing the passer. 
 

Why did the Chargers not punt? My goodness.

[Xeliou66]

ABSOLUTELY BULLSHIT CALL AGAINST THE FALCONS THERE. THAT WAS NOT ROUGHING THE PASSER. TOTAL SHIT. 

[AimingforYoko]

C'mon, the refs had to give Tom the call there, he's had a rough week.

[meowmommy]

Just now, twoods said:

Why did the Chargers not punt? My goodness.

They got very, very lucky.

If you don't trust your defense to stop Cleveland after a punt, why would you give them the chance to score from your side of midfield?

[mojoween]

I JUST walked in the door and see the refs are up to their same old bullshit with Brady.

THAT’S why I thought there was going to be a flag when Tua got hurt (the second time).  If it’s good for their fucking Golden Boy, it’s good for everyone else.

[Xeliou66]

Just now, meowmommy said:

They got very, very lucky.

If you don't trust your defense to stop Cleveland after a punt, why would you give them the chance to score from your side of midfield?

Yes the Chargers got lucky to win that one, I have no idea what the hell Staley was thinking at the end there. 

[meowmommy]

Like the little montage Fox just showed of all the non-calls today and then the call when the game is on the line.  Saint Tommy of Tampa must be protected at all cost.

[Xeliou66]

It enrages me when a game is basically decided on an iffy penalty. Yes the Bucs outplayed the Falcons and have the better team, but the Falcons didn’t get a chance to win because of an absolute horseshit penalty. Worst call I’ve seen all season. I don’t even hate Brady but yeah he got a call that most QB’s wouldn’t get. Even the announcers trashed the officials. Total bullshit. 

[twoods]

It’s just a slap in the face for the Falcons. They came all the way back and sacked Golden Boy on third down and had a good chance to win the game. What was the point for that call? No other QB would get that call.

Edited October 9, 2022 by twoods

[bluegirl147]

7 minutes ago, Xeliou66 said:

ABSOLUTELY BULLSHIT CALL AGAINST THE FALCONS THERE. THAT WAS NOT ROUGHING THE PASSER. TOTAL SHIT. 

I will never be convinced there are not players/teams that are treated more favorable by the officials.

[Xeliou66]

1 minute ago, twoods said:

It’s just a slap in the face for the Falcons. They came all the way back and sacked Golden Boy on third down and had a good chance to win the game. What was the point for that call? 

The refs just sealed the game for the Bucs. Those officials should be suspended and the NFL should apologize for such shitty officiating. The Falcons should’ve gotten the ball back. Fuck the refs!!

[Bastet]

I don't get up until the second half of the morning games, so no way in hell am I ever going to see a London game, but I am thrilled for my G-Men.

I am not thrilled my NFC morning game involved Tom Fucking Brady, and then he gets another bullshit this perfectly legal thing becomes a penalty if you do it to Tom Brady call to boot. 

Edited October 9, 2022 by Bastet
It's "for my" not "my for" -- jeez, I only had two Bloody Marys

[Xeliou66]

Titans escape with a win against the Commanders 21-17.

Texans beat the Jags, so there will be no winless teams this season.

Jets beat a Dolphins team that was down to their 3rd string QB, injuries may derail the Fins season, and suddenly the Jets have a little win streak going on with Wilson back.

Only early game still on is Saints/Seahawks, Saints up 7 and they will run out the clock and win. Seahawks are not very good but Geno Smith is doing a lot better than I thought he would as a starter.

[Xeliou66]

Disastrous start for the Rams, first Stafford fumbles on a sack and the Cowboys scoop and score, then a blocked punt results in a FG for the Cowboys, 9-0 Dallas less than halfway through the 1st.

Eagles score on their first drive and lead the Cards 7-0.

[meowmommy]

You know, the one time I want the Rams not to eat shit and die, they instead shit the bed.

BTW, NFL pundits are going to have to, at least for one week, direct their snark at someone other than New York football teams.  New York-based and New York-named teams are a combined 11 - 4 right now.

[blueray]

2 hours ago, twoods said:

As a Bills fan even I think that game is painful to watch. 
 

Man do I hate the Bucs. 

As a Bill's fan, I say we should have pulled Allen earlier then we did. No reason to risk him getting hurt and the other starts as well as we need them against KC. But wow did he play a good game. Two plays were amazing but especially that 98 yrs play (okay don't know the term). He throw it more then halfway down the field. 

Edited October 9, 2022 by blueray

[DrSpaceman73]

1 hour ago, AimingforYoko said:

AFC South action: It's Faaaaaaaantastic.

And I present your NFC North leaders, the Minnesota Vikings.

Do you like field goals, punts, mediocre qbs, bad offense and a 1930s style football game?!  Then the afc south is your dream come true!

[DrSpaceman73]

1 hour ago, bluegirl147 said:

I will never be convinced there are not players/teams that are treated more favorable by the officials.

Just go back and watch some of the footage of cam Newton and he would be destroyed with no calls. There is no WAY those hits on brady, rodgets, others would be let go.  Strong argument can be made the nfl shortened his career by not protecting him. 

He famously claimed Ed hochuli told him 'he is not old enough to get that call' on one play. 

There is no carson palmer rule. It's the tom brady rule.  On a hit years after it happened to Carson palmer. 

[Xeliou66]

Wild first half in Cowboys/Rams - a scoop and score, a blocked punt, 2 long passes from Stafford that led to the Rams 10 points and a long run by Pollard that gave the Cowboys their offensive TD. 16-10 Cowboys at the half, this game could go either way.

Eagles up 14-10 on the Cards at halftime in an interesting matchup, Hurts is playing well once again as the Eagles try to stay unbeaten.

Niners up 17-9 on the Panthers.

[Chit Chat]

2 hours ago, Xeliou66 said:

Yes the Bucs outplayed the Falcons and have the better team, but the Falcons didn’t get a chance to win because of an absolute horseshit penalty.

As a Buc's fan, I agree that the penalty didn't need to be called, but there was a call earlier in which the ball was spotted short of the down and went against the Bucs.  From the overhead camera view, it appeared that the Buc's player did make it past the line before getting pushed back. 

Each fanbase will complain about every perceived wrong call in a game.  When that happens with the Bucs, I get mad, then I think that if the team played a little better then maybe those kinds of calls wouldn't have mattered.  A gal can dream, right?   At least Mike Evans didn't get in a fight with anybody!  We can't afford to lose him.  And Julio, he just can't stay injury-free.  Gronk, please come back!!

[Fukui San]

It's a Senior Citizen's Privilege.

[Salacious Kitty]

6 minutes ago, Fukui San said:

It's a Senior Citizen's Privilege.

Meh, Brady has been protected forever. Remember the Tuck Rule play? 

That cemented my loathing of Tommy Boy.

Speaking of which, who will get the plastic surgeon in the divorce? 😁

[twoods]

It wasn’t even a dirty hit. He was sacked how all QBs get sacked. 
 

Stupid Rams. They just had to not make mistakes and they would have won this game. They are really hurting on offense.

[meowmommy]

4 minutes ago, Salacious Kitty said:

Meh, Brady has been protected forever. Remember the Tuck Rule play? 

Eh, he was an unknown second-stringer then.  They had no reason to protect him, except of course Al Davis being the devil incarnate and all. 

[meowmommy]

Ok, maybe Kyler Murray needed to spend that studying time that was in his contract?  What a bonehead move.  

[Xeliou66]

Eagles beat the Cards 20-17 and remain unbeaten.

Cowboys beat the Rams 22-10, dominant defensive performance from the Cowboys as they had a great pass rush and forced turnovers, and they ran the ball well also. The Rams are really struggling, their offensive line is in turmoil and they don’t have a rushing attack, and their defense isn’t as strong as it was last season.

Next week’s showdown between the Cowboys/Eagles is huge.