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S21: Tamar Braxton: Dancing All The Way Home

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realdancemom

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This is cool. I didn't know that Tamar sang the background vocals in Gaga's "Born this Way" and she explains why she used that song in honor of both of them.

Thanks for the clip.  It was fun to see Tamar and her co-hosts talking about DWTS.  Her co-hosts were funny too and really got into the show and rooting for Tamar.

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skyways
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That's an awful thing to say. It's not like she cheated her out of an opportunity of a lifetime event. It's just a dance show. If Alex was voted off would this have been more fair, in your opinion? I

kitcloudkicker
kitcloudkicker

I saw this on Twitter, thought it put it well: Tamar did not take Alexa's place. Alexa would have taken Tamar's place had Tamar dropped out mid-show. Bummer for Alexa, but not unfair.    That said,

truthaboutluv
truthaboutluv

I mean yeah it sucks for Alexa and her fans but I don't think Tamar deliberately sought to screw her over. I really think her determination to come back for the last dance was because it was a team da

PTVjones

PTVjones

I saw the other day that The Real has apparently been renewed for the next *2* seasons.

Wouldn't be surprised if the show asked Adrienne or Tamera to be on the show. Adrienne has a connection to former contestant Rob Kardashian and quite frankly I'm surprised that a Mowry twin hasn't done the show yet. 

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realdancemom

realdancemom

Wouldn't be surprised if the show asked Adrienne or Tamera to be on the show. Adrienne has a connection to former contestant Rob Kardashian and quite frankly I'm surprised that a Mowry twin hasn't done the show yet. 

I'm also surprised that a Mowry twin hasn't done DWTS yet. 

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BW Manilowe

BW Manilowe

I saw a pic of Toni Braxton and her partner Alec Mazo on the dwts page. I forgot how hot he was! I wonder why Toni didn't last as long as Tamar on the show? I thought she was the more famous one?

Being the more famous sister doesn't necessarily mean you're a better dancer though. She was eliminated 5th, on October 21, 2008, in Season 7. And about 2 years later, in 2010 (I think she was doing a "residency" show at 1 of the major Las Vegas Casino-Resorts at the time), she was diagnosed with both Lupus & a narrowing of the vessels in her heart.

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PBGamer89

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Toni was a good dancer, but never got her due from the judges. I remember this because all 5 weeks, her dances always scored 21-23, never above or below.

 

Plus she had a pro like Alec with not a huge fan base, and jus got overshadowed by personalities like Cloris and Warren and better dancers like Brooke and Lance.

 

There's also this gem, when Carrie said "We lost Toni Braxton for this?" to Cloris the week after Toni was eliminated:

 

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2bf78v_cloris-leachman-corky-ballas-cha-cha-cha_people

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Andie1

Andie1

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i am really excited for the Rumba, this has been one of Tamar's best dances, I think it can be super cool that she gets a few bars with Nick. and the second one to Wicked Game I wonder what they will dance to this, possibly Contemp or AT? i love that music, I remember Amy Yakima and Travis Wall dancing to that piece and it was beautiful .

If she goes home, at least I got to see the BEST dancer of the season dance to some of my favourite music

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I have a feeling the rumba will be more contemp lite than full fledged rumba.  I think Tamar can handle the dancing, though of course she's in Florida all weekend and it looked like Val was on his way there this morning to fit some rehearsal time in somewhere.  But I did wonder how she will fare with dancing with someone besides Val since I think it takes her awhile to connect with someone on the dance floor, let alone having to connect with someone in a fairly intimate dance.  Though I'm assuming she doesn't have to dance with Nick directly for very long.

 

I barely even remember Toni on this show, which is how much of an impression she left on me.  I think it was a combo of her not being a very big personality and Alec never being very popular.  

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i am really excited for the Rumba, this has been one of Tamar's best dances, I think it can be super cool that she gets a few bars with Nick. and the second one to Wicked Game I wonder what they will dance to this, possibly Contemp or AT? i love that music, I remember Amy Yakima and Travis Wall dancing to that piece and it was beautiful .

If she goes home, at least I got to see the BEST dancer of the season dance to some of my favourite music

 

Tamar is good at Rumba, not sure about Nick though....

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Andie1

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Again the only team that will truly ballroom partner in hold is the team that has a male and a female celebrity contestant on it. Dancing together. The other two teams can only ballroom partner with their teacher so they are still unable to dance with another beginner in the opposite sex, thus being unable to demonstrate that they can dance what they have learned with someone other than their teacher. If you've ever taken ballroom dancing, dancing with a teacher is a safety net. A teacher can pull you through a routine that you are unsure of. The REAL test is dancing with another who is a beginner lead and follow. The married couple should have had the balls to do it at least, since they are a real life couple and will be dancing, I assume at social events other than their wedding. The fact that Sharna will have Nick and Tamar do a few bars on their own together is what learning ballroom dancing is all about. The other stuff of two males or two females together is not ballroom in hold for this show. We'll get the usual bullshit that has nothing to do with ballroom, or something stupidily innocuous like twirling the Matadors cape around in time to music. Big fucking deal. Not.

I remember Toni Braxton, she was great on season 7, but the show was pushing Brooke Burke for obvious reasons in hindsight. Toni had a great Rumba, and it was the time the show brought in West Coast Swing, and people thought Lance and Lacey were going to do so well, since Lacey was the only expert in this style, but Lance wiped out on that slide so Toni got a better score. But the dance I remember most was The Marie Antoniette Viennese Waltz, the show would have loved it now, but the judges hated it in Season 7 , mostly because Brooke needed to be better.

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Danseur

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Do we know it was their choice? If the pairings were assigned, having "balls" becomes a moot point.

In Season 18, it was an obvious disadvantage for Meryl and Danica to dance side by side instead of being able to partner with an opposite sex dancer as both Candace/Charlie and Amy/James did. It was harder to stay in synch and the other two couples scored higher.

I think both Tamar/Nick and Carlos/Alek might have the advantage over Alexa/Bindi because the first two are doing dances they've previously done: Rumba and Paso Doble. Alexa and Bindi have had to learn the Charleston, a dance neither has done, as well as their individual dance.

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kitcloudkicker

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Considering that Chicago is a play with two female leads, I wouldn't be surprised if TPTB thought pairing two female dancers would be better for the dance. Sounds like Tamar wouldn't have been able to make a trip to New York, that leaves Bindi and Alexa. I haven't heard that this challenge is like the last one, with the rule that the dancers have to dance on their own for a set number of seconds - if they have to they aren't promoting it. This whole challenge feels a lot more about the subject matter. 

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Andie1

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Please, since when has the Charleston been a challenge for anyone? Comparing that to the other two dance styles is insulting to ballroom. There are no rules for this, and little in the way of challenge. Even Rumer said dancing in Chicago was vastly easier than learning ballroom. and since bouncy Bindi has been doing a fuck of a lot of Broadway overacting dancing this shouldn't be a stretch

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/f82bd5a17e654073bb091fcbe91ba5a2/dancing-star-rumer-willis-talks-chicago-dad-broadway

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kitcloudkicker

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Well yeah, this whole "challenge" seems dreamed up to advertise for cruises, in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if the "rumba" ends up more of a contempo-rumba, and since it's based on a Cirque show I'm pretty much expecting circusy extras like troupe on silks. None of this is going to be ballroom standard. 

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Andie1

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The thing is there are rules CAI can apply them seemingly at will. If she chooses to anything looking acro could be deducted from a rumba regardless of theme. So in truth the ones more at risk are the ones doing a ballroom or Latin dance, the Charleston you can stand on your head and it will be applauded as innovative when all it is is elementary gym time. Cartwheel anyone? That's the Honey Rag in Chicago

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Andie1

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In Season 18, it was an obvious disadvantage for Meryl and Danica to dance side by side instead of being able to partner with an opposite sex dancer as both Candace/Charlie and Amy/James did. It was harder to stay in synch and the other two couples scored higher.

 

I didn't watch Season 18, but what were the dances?  My guess is Meryl and Danica got a difficult ballroom or Latin dance, like maybe a Samba or a Rumba that is much more difficult to stay in synch ? Not a flipping Charleston, you can be completely off and it will "look" like it's part of the routine.  

 

Besides, my thoughts on Meryl is she's a superior dancer with lots of ballroom training before she danced, she even said that for her Olympic training she and Charlie took a lot of ballroom classes, couple that with her performance ability, she was a lock to win before the show started.

So for me, that season had no challenge, just like in season 6 with Kristie Yamaguchi, but even more so because ice dancers must be acutely aware of the posture and technique of ballroom. Charlie wasn't going to beat her, when someone like Meryl has been the picture to Charlie's frame for years, she's going to get the spotlight. So anytime she would have been paired with anyone else that's not a pro,  it was the time for the show to knock her a bit because she's going to look better than her partner, so things can look off.   I certainly enjoyed her dances on youtube, but I wasn't in the mood to watch a competition when it was so lopsided.  It's like watching the Patriots blow away the Bills.  No contest, ultimately boring..  

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realdancemom

realdancemom

I don't the teams were random.  I think TPTB chose them.  But they also make sense since Nick and Tamar are tall.  Tamar can't be paired with Carlos because he's short.  I'm not sure about Alek but Nick is definitely tall enough for her.

 

If they wanted two women for Chicago, it also makes sense to pair Alexa and Bindi.  They are more similar in height and build.  Tamar would tower over them.

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Andie1

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Yeah, they weren't random.  They shudda put the married couple together, but they want the Honey Rag for boring bouncy Bindi, because it's easy dancing with broadway impact, the one thing she does ad nauseum.  As for the height issue, tall Ann Reinking didn't have a problem with little Bibi Neuwirth, but whatever.  In truth it shudda been the marrieds,  and Bindi and Alex.  Ha, the show would never put her with him. Cowards

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boyznkatz

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I'm kinda surprised they didn't put Bindi and Alek together, being that they are the two they pimp the most. Then they can crow about how much Alek improved and give him all 9s and 10s. And yeah, all elementary school kiddies do the charleston in gym class. I remember doing it. That said, why are they bothering with the paso and rumba again. Do some different dances!

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Besides, my thoughts on Meryl is she's a superior dancer with lots of ballroom training before she danced, she even said that for her Olympic training she and Charlie took a lot of ballroom classes, couple that with her performance ability, she was a lock to win before the show started.

So for me, that season had no challenge, just like in season 6 with Kristie Yamaguchi, but even more so because ice dancers must be acutely aware of the posture and technique of ballroom. Charlie wasn't going to beat her, when someone like Meryl has been the picture to Charlie's frame for years, she's going to get the spotlight. So anytime she would have been paired with anyone else that's not a pro,  it was the time for the show to knock her a bit because she's going to look better than her partner, so things can look off.   I certainly enjoyed her dances on youtube, but I wasn't in the mood to watch a competition when it was so lopsided.  It's like watching the Patriots blow away the Bills.  No contest, ultimately boring..  

 

I wouldn't say that. Season 18 actually had a lot of competition when it came to good dancing. Danica and Charlie were both ringers. Danica got injured or she might have gone further. James wasn't quite a ringer, but he was pretty good, and so was Amy. They did pimp the M & M showmance, but there was a lot of good dancing.

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Andie1

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Well I didn't watch but I knew the outcome before they started based on the line-up.  Not only would Meryl have the skill she has a built in fan base, people who watch ice dancing also watch dwts, because of the similarities. Kristie Yamaguchi ran away with the competition, even against a handsome footballer who was pretty good  

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realdancemom

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Well I didn't watch but I knew the outcome before they started based on the line-up.  Not only would Meryl have the skill she has a built in fan base, people who watch ice dancing also watch dwts, because of the similarities. Kristie Yamaguchi ran away with the competition, even against a handsome footballer who was pretty good  

Before the season, I read that a lot of people thought Charlie was going to beat Meryl.  She was shy while he was more outgoing which usually translates into more votes.  However, Meryl made me tolerate Maks who I didn't previously like.  If their relationship would have been something like Maks/Hope then she would have been toast no matter how good she was.  Thankfully, they had chemistry on the dance floor and she was good for him.  There were shippers but I don't ship people.  I just look at what's presented on the dance floor.

 

Sharna also made the mistake that Louis did with Tamar.  She finally got a really good contestant.  So she threw too much at him.  I also believe they had a no nonsense relationship.  There was no drama so they were hardly shown which also doesn't make people vote for you.

 

As usual, good dancers don't necessarily outlast dancers that are not as good.  Candace made it into the finals instead of James (he was in the finals the first night but not second night), Charlie, and Danica. 

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Andie1

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Charlie wasn't going to beat Meryl.  Kristie Yamaguchi is also a shy kind of person outside the ice rink.   It's what they do in performance 


So apparently the Beatles LOVE cirque du soliel dancers are going to be with Tamar and Nick tonight. That's cool.  Expectations are awful high though, with the show's dancers, that makes it difficult to live up to. Nick shouldn't worry he's got immunity.  Tamar - this could be her swan song. :(  

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PBGamer89

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Charlie wasn't going to beat Meryl.  Kristie Yamaguchi is also a shy kind of person outside the ice rink.   It's what they do in performance 

So apparently the Beatles LOVE cirque du soliel dancers are going to be with Tamar and Nick tonight. That's cool.  Expectations are awful high though, with the show's dancers, that makes it difficult to live up to. Nick shouldn't worry he's got immunity.  Tamar - this could be her swan song. :(  

 

Nick's immunity was for last week, not this week. He could go just eaasily as anyone tonight; don't think he will, but he's not immune.

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Uke

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At this late time it is likely that they have a dress rehearsal on tape. 

 

Depends on the timing I guess. Tom's tweet "Dress rehearsal about to start" was at 447pmEST. TMZ's story was timestamped 725pm.

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BW Manilowe

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Uke & wings707: I would think they have a dress rehearsal performance they could go by, unless Tamar became ill before or during it. Tom Tweeted, timestamped on my (Eastern Time) Twitter feed at 4:47PM, that they were about to start dress rehearsal then (so presumably starting at/by 5PM Eastern).

https://mobile.twitter.com/Tom_Bergeron/status/663835349047578624?p=v

Given that info, I think they should have a dress rehearsal performance they could use unless, like I said, Tamar was taken ill before even being able to do her dress rehearsal dances.

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Andie1

Andie1

Nick's immunity was for last week, not this week. He could go just eaasily as anyone tonight; don't think he will, but he's not immune.

 

How would immunity be for last week? The votes combined with the scores are the previous week

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Saylii

Saylii

How would immunity be for last week? The votes combined with the scores are the previous week

That's why it's usually referred to as underhanded tactics because they usually pull it out to save someone who would have been eliminated. IIRC, Nick wasn't on stage last week during the elimination so I'm pretty sure it's been used.

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Andie1

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I just read this on Rickey.org  that Tamar is ill, well that's unfortunate.  I'm not surprised since her schedule has been so crazy. I wish that she would have left due to dance, not like this. But it's difficult to keep a schedule and keep up spirits when everyone is against you.  Well, time to look at Antiques Roadshow.

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McManda

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Tamar got lucky that they had dress rehearsal footage and that she had a contemporary. Both things will work in her favor for judges scores.

 

I do wonder how they'll deal with next week (if she makes it through). Pneumonia and her schedule don't really seem compatible for a lot of quality rehearsal time if she wants to get better.

 

Val seems like a good person. I feel bad that he feels like it's his fault. It's not his fault. :/ (It's not anyone's fault.)

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NowVoyager

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They judged a tape of the rehearsal. I thought it looked really hot! I'm getting nervous listening to Val----pneumonia?!? He sounds really worried... I hope Tamar feels better soon! (Well, not soon because pneumonia takes weeks to recover from, but you know what I mean.)

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Saylii

Saylii

I believe it. Last week's package had the same voice that she had the week we knew she was sick. Same voice as this week. So she's been sick for almost a month now.

I have to imagine she was taken to the hospital because she couldn't breathe or was coughing up blood.

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