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dtissagirl
dtissagirl

What bugs me is the implication that if you are not patient, you're watching it wrong. Naw, son. You don't get to tell me how I watch TV. I'm an actual pro at doing it.

WindofChange
WindofChange

Oh wow, Emily. I'm impressed because this is really brave and I'm really proud that she said this in such an eloquent way.

dtissagirl
dtissagirl

Ha. Reading those stage directions, and realizing how EBR went the opposite way [curious and skeptic rather than faint by hot guy] makes me understand 100% how fucking lost they were at that time, and

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apinknightmare

39 minutes ago, LeighAn said:

Question to people who have been to a pride parade (I never have): How many gay stereotypes are there in gay pride parades? Cause I feel like Stephen going to a gay pride parade to only tweet about gay generalisations/stereotypes as his main "takeaways" kind of seems like it defeats the purpose to me *shrug* 

 

But are they very flamboyant? 

I've only been to Pride once, but there was glitter EVERYWHERE. People painted themselves with it, threw it in the air - it covered every available surface. I arrived with no glitter on my person and left with it in my pockets, in my bra. Everywhere. So his comment about clothing is spot on.

And quite a few of my gay friends do really love Britney, but I'm not sure what SA means about her being "currency." 

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OnceSane

OnceSane

2 hours ago, LeighAn said:

Question to people who have been to a pride parade (I never have): How many gay stereotypes are there in gay pride parades? Cause I feel like Stephen going to a gay pride parade to only tweet about gay generalisations/stereotypes as his main "takeaways" kind of seems like it defeats the purpose to me *shrug* 

 

But are they very flamboyant? 

Extremely.  And it's so much fun!

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LeighAn

LeighAn

Hmm okay fair enough then haha. I just side eyed a little that instead of tweeting something supportive of the LGBT community he just tweeted something that perpetuates gay stereotypes but turns out that the parades are the definition of. 

 

We don't really have pride parades to that scale in my state, I don't know if it's because we have a smaller population or what, but some of the larger states in my country do. I might have to check one out sometime. 

LeighAn

LeighAn

I do like this comment (also don't really want to read what replies he must have been getting to warrant his response):

I've seen a couple reposted to twitter and a few are saying they are going to quit the show because of Stephens support of the gay community which I mean I wonder if people realise that the man responsible for the whole DCTV universe is in fact gay. 

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SmallScreenDiva

SmallScreenDiva

On 8/7/2017 at 10:14 AM, tv echo said:

IMDb is currently listing Gregory Smith as the director of 604...
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt6493658/?ref_=ttep_ep4

I find his direction a bit amateurish and rigid. It's like watching a first-time director of a  high school play who knows the mechanics but hasn't quite mastered the technique. I keep going back to the blocking of his scenes because it's the most obvious to me when people are just standing around and only move when they are about to deliver a line. I'm glad Berlanti and Co. seem to be giving newbie directors a shot, but can they go practice on a show I'm not watching? Practice their awkward stagings and spin cameras and vertigo-inducing pans on somebody else. 

On 8/7/2017 at 9:22 AM, LeighAn said:

But are they very flamboyant? 

Very much so. I've been to the NYC March a few times and it's just really over the top in a really fun way. A friend explained it to me as more than just embracing the stereotype but going above and beyond it on that day :)

As for DR canceling on Boston ... sure, David, I'm sure it's totally your filming schedule :P (I'm only half-kidding) 

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catrox14

catrox14

39 minutes ago, lemotomato said:

Monday was a holiday in British Columbia, so they didn't do any filming. That could've shifted the schedule.

Theoretically, wouldn't they know they had the day off and would have already planned accordingly for a possible Fraturday to make up for the holiday off? I wonder how far ahead they book these appearances based on their known likely filming schedule.

HighHopes

HighHopes

1 hour ago, catrox14 said:

Theoretically, wouldn't they know they had the day off and would have already planned accordingly for a possible Fraturday to make up for the holiday off? I wonder how far ahead they book these appearances based on their known likely filming schedule.

There is really bad smoke in Vancouver right now too due to the BC wildfires. There is air quality warnings and such in place for the past few days (one city in BC was recently at a 49 on a scale of 1-10 for air quality health index) and there doesn't appear to be an end in sight for the smokey air here. I am sure this is affecting filming as you can't be outside for too long and can't do a ton of physical activities either. Plus there's the heatwave we are having. Combined together and I am sure things have gotten shifted for filming. 

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catrox14

catrox14

1 minute ago, HighHopes said:

There is really bad smoke in Vancouver right now too due to the BC wildfires. There is air quality warnings and such in place for the past few days (one city in BC was recently at a 49 on a scale of 1-10 for air quality health index) and there doesn't appear to be an end in sight for the smokey air here. I am sure this is affecting filming as you can't be outside for too long and can't do a ton of physical activities either. Plus there's the heatwave we are having. Combined together and I am sure things have gotten shifted for filming. 

Thanks for that info :).

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HighHopes

HighHopes

Just now, catrox14 said:

Thanks for that info :).

It's not a for sure thing, and filming appears to be continuing from what I can see on Twitter and in and around Vancouver, but I would be surprised if the smoke didn't affect anything. I can't even open my windows without the smell of smoke coming in, I would hate to have to film in this. So mad props to all the cast and crews of all the Vancouver shows filming right now. 

catrox14

catrox14

6 minutes ago, HighHopes said:

It's not a for sure thing, and filming appears to be continuing from what I can see on Twitter and in and around Vancouver, but I would be surprised if the smoke didn't affect anything. I can't even open my windows without the smell of smoke coming in, I would hate to have to film in this. So mad props to all the cast and crews of all the Vancouver shows filming right now. 

Yeah, those are terrible conditions. I live in San Diego and my former employer's office was just 2 miles away from the worst fires in San Diego County. The smoke was awful. State of Emergency for 3 days. No going to work. Bad news.

tv echo

tv echo

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Manu Bennett was recently a guest at MCM Manchester Comic Con on July 29-30, 2017 (videos of his spoilery MYM Buzz interview at this con have been posted in the New Spoilers thread)...
http://www.mcmcomiccon.com/manchester/attractions/special-guests/

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tv echo

tv echo

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Schedule posted for next weekend's comic con...

Terrificon, August 18-20, 2017 (Uncasville, CT)
Echo Kellum (Violett Beane and Dean Cain)
http://www.terrificon.com/media---cosplay-guests.html
Schedule (pdf) - Echo & Violett panel and Dean panel both on Sun., 8/20

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tv echo

tv echo

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As you know, Spiro Skentzos joined the Arrow writing staff in May of this year..

But did you know that he is running for a seat on the WGA West Board of Directors? Here's his candidate statement (portions quoted), which I found interesting - the woes of being a mid-level writer:
https://spiroskentzosforwga.wixsite.com/2017

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I am a WGA member who has worked mostly in TV, but, like many of you, my career has not been a straight trajectory. I’ve written for digital platforms; I’ve written indie features; in TV, I’ve written in both comedy and drama. I’ve been a Staff Writer, a Story Editor, and I’ve sold two pilots, so I’ve been an Executive Producer – well, at least on paper. I’m a graduate of NBC’s Writers On The Verge Program, and I’m currently writing on The CW’s ARROW.
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My reasons for running for the board are, just as we say about writing itself, ‘based on personal struggle and are universally relatable.’ As a middle-level writer, I’ve experienced, along with many of you, the mid-level drought: you’re no longer the cheap staff writer, but you don’t have the desired Producer credit, so you sit out a season. Or two. Or you’re asked to repeat Staff Writer again. I believe that middle-level writers need more representation on the board; and from my personal experiences, I’m in a unique position to champion their needs to Guild leadership. In short, I want to be part of the solution.
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Through these mentorship and education efforts, I’ve discovered that many writers share the same plight as I – being mid-level is hard to break out of, is often overlooked, and can sideline a career. I’d like to bring this area of concern to the Guild and be a liaison for all writers, and in particular, diverse, mid-level writers. As a new Board member, I’ll come in with a rare amount of knowledge in how the Guild works and how to get things done.
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We need to do away with repeating the Staff Writer position for a second year after you’ve already spent 23 episodes as a staff writer. The studios make a lot of money, and they make it from us, so they can afford to pay us our rate, and give us our bump up.
 
In addition to that, many writers are not getting the production experience needed as they rise through the ranks, which hinders them when they get to higher levels. This can improve with the guild’s focus on mid-level writer education and mentorship.
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Another angle of the mid-level staffing issue is how it uniquely affects diverse writers. Mid-level, diverse writers need exposure and opportunities to prove themselves. Despite the Guild’s success in this area with the Writers Access Program, diverse, mid-level writers often suffer from a lack of employment once their staff writer season or diversity program ends. For a large group of diverse writers, this is a reality.
 
We need more one-on-one mentoring of members who bring fresh perspectives whether it’s through their age, gender, ethnic or racial background, disability, sexual identity or previous life experience. Since writers are the bosses in TV, we need to get this message out to all writers: every voice is unique and writers aren’t interchangeable. A diverse viewership demands diverse writing rooms to generate diverse product.

The election will take place in September and the results will be announced on Sept. 18. The WGA West represents about 9,000 members. 

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Soulfire

Soulfire

From John Barrowman's Facebook --

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I am surprised and very happy to hear Marc Guggenheim's comments about Merlyn's future in the Arrowverse because in a very decisive phone conversation we had with Wendy Mericle, I was led to believe that there were no plans to bring Merlyn back. 
If they have changed their mind, awesome!
I have LOVED playing Malcom Merlyn and was SO disappointed to be told the news of his death and to no longer be part of a fantastic team and show. 
If they want me back, they just have to ask! The ball is back in their court. Write Merlyn an amazing storyline and I will be there. 
John Barrowman MBE

Read the article below:

http://comicbook.com/dc/2017/08/11/arrow-merlyn-john-barrowman-return/

 

Chaser

Chaser

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That reads a little awkward. Fans generally get the 'never say never' line from showrunners but the talent gets the truth. If the conversation was that decisive, I would think that's their intention. Yeah, they may have changed their minds but I think it would be smarter for JB to wait for that phone call.

Reminds me of Supernatural

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and Mark Shepard. When Crowley was killed off and 'Runners were giving the typical line, he went on SM to dismiss their comments as giving false hope to fans.

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7 minutes ago, leopardprint said:

Except this show does this all the time so death has lost all meaning on Arrow. It's perfectly reasonable to expect that they'll bring him back if they can think of something "cool" to do with him. 

I agree, which is why I was surprised that JB was under the impression that he would not be brought back at all. It made me think that he was told something that MG wasn't saying to the fans.

2 minutes ago, Soulfire said:

Or he wasn't...but Awkward.

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tangerine95

tangerine95

I get the feeling MG is talking about one episode guest spots and JB about being brought back as a regular.They always bring back actors to guest star if they're available so Idk why JB would be the only one to be told never coming back especially since they seem to love him so much they dragged out MM's storyline beyond anything logical to keep him on the show.

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leopardprint

leopardprint

39 minutes ago, tangerine95 said:

I get the feeling MG is talking about one episode guest spots and JB about being brought back as a regular.They always bring back actors to guest star if they're available so Idk why JB would be the only one to be told never coming back especially since they seem to love him so much they dragged out MM's storyline beyond anything logical to keep him on the show.

I think something like this is probably what happened but I could also see WM saying one thing and MG saying the opposite. It's basically their MO at this point. 

catrox14

catrox14

I tend to believe JB's version of events. That guy has been around the block too many times with Doctor Who, his own show with Torchwood, writing YA novels with his sister, and other manner of show business that I don't think he is going to play a game of chicken with MG on this.  He's a savvy business man if nothing else. IMO I think whatever was said, JB understood it to be the end for Malcolm Merlyn and a pretty shitty end for him at that.

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Guest

That is so damn embarrassing. Why do they have to say this kind of stuff on social media? Yikes. 

That being said, I'd believe JB over MG tbh. Although I hope Malcolm doesn't come back in any way. A one-off E2 character, maybe, but even then it's just unnecessary. 

Does this show ever get bored of bringing back everyone from the dead? It's embarrassing now. Death has no meaning whatsoever. 

apinknightmare

apinknightmare

IDK, it's hard for me to believe that JB would think there was no chance for Merlyn to come back with how many ~dead people they've brought back in whatever way, or that WM or MG would frame the conversation as him having no chance to come back whatsoever. I can totally believe that Wendy word salad-ed her way into a misunderstanding, though.

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apinknightmare

apinknightmare

9 minutes ago, Angel12d said:

He seemed pretty convinced that it was the end of the road for MM though. IDK, I just don't trust a word MG says tbh. Haha.

Eh, I believe him in this instance, since he's brought up that "goodbye is never goodbye" parallel universe, flashback BS about killed off characters before. And all the major characters that they killed off have reappeared in some way, shape or form, so it's something they make good on. JB's post talks about a "storyline" for MM, and MG's comment was about an unspecified appearance - perhaps that's where the misunderstanding lies (maybe he took news that they wouldn't be renewing his contract as "you won't be coming back on ever"). 

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