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Hannibal Won't Move To Amazon Or Netflix

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MerryMerricat

MerryMerricat

Such a letdown, I really thought Amazon and Netflix were the best chances the show had. It's pretty doubtful Hulu or Yahoo Screen will pick it up. I'm just amazed we got 3 whole season of this batshit insanity of a show!

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kmm49

kmm49

Some people are mad at Fuller because he was having Amazon wait a year. Not sure if this true but he has other shows going on too. Oh, well. Disappointing but this season's floundering in the writing department anyway so maybe he doesn't have a full devotion like we do to the show.

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Ronin Jackson

Ronin Jackson

Kickstarter? Anyone willing to donate $10 and put it on yahoo or YouTube?

A Kickstarter campaign would need to raise about $40 million for one season, far more than has been raised in a single crowdfunding campaign.

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paramitch

paramitch

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

I need beautiful men being enigmatic! I need opera and Bach and immaculate table settings! I need discussions of life, death, poetry, philosophy and art! With or without the buckets of blood!

WHERE ELSE CAN I GO FOR THIS?

Somebody save "Hannibal," dammit!

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coppersin

coppersin

I need beautiful men being enigmatic! I need opera and Bach and immaculate table settings! I need discussions of life, death, poetry, philosophy and art! With or without the buckets of blood!

 

I just need Hannibal and Will sitting together, either at the dinner table or in Hannibal's lovely office, staring soulfully at each other and sharing witty dialogue. Maybe some tinkling piano music or the occasional food porn. That's it. It would cut down on costs, surely?

 

I probably need to accept this show's demise or at least get to work on the stages of grief. Or at the very least stop ranting about it to loved ones and coworkers who don't watch the show and are wondering what happened to my self-control.

 

It just still seems so strange to me that this show isn't getting picked up by someone else. I understand the practicalities, but this seems like the kind of show that would thrive online. I was even willing to join Amazon, which I had zero interest in before.

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MisterGlass

MisterGlass

It surprises me that Amazon passed on it in the first place.  I'm going to remain in denial for the moment and hope that someone pounces.  How about a traditional network?  Are AMC and HBO ruled out?  AMC airs the Walking Dead, surely they aren't squeamish.

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Captanne

Captanne

Is there some confirmation that the concern is squeamishness?  Or is it just low ratings and audience interest?  The show may be too expensive to produce compared to its revenue return.  Content may not be the issue.  I genuinely don't know.

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Crossbow

Crossbow

It surprises me that Amazon passed on it in the first place.  I'm going to remain in denial for the moment and hope that someone pounces.  How about a traditional network?  Are AMC and HBO ruled out?  AMC airs the Walking Dead, surely they aren't squeamish.

 

No one has mentioned any cable networks. We know Amason and Netflix passed, but that's all. HBO has Game of Thrones and Showtime ran Dexter, so they're not squeamish either. It's all about the Neilsen ratings.

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coppersin

coppersin

AMC could work; now that Mad Men and Breaking Bad are done, how are their shows faring other than Walking Dead and its spinoff?

 

A&E would be an interesting choice. They have Bates Motel, so they would probably embrace our show as-is.

 

I know that Amazon has streaming rights, but what about airing repeats on television? If Hannibal is picked up by another network, would they have the option of rerunning the previous three seasons?

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DeadlyEuphoric

DeadlyEuphoric

Bryan Fuller would not be available to do Hannibal for a year while he gets American Gods off the ground.

 

I keep reading this as a reason and a difficulty in Hannibal getting picked up again, which makes me wonder, wasn't he going to do American Gods already before Hannibal got cancelled? So if NBC hadn't canceled the show and gave it another season, was he just going to quit Hannibal or was he going to do both? If he was going to do both initially, he can do both now too, if someone is willing to pick the show up, no? And I get the feeling he IS trying to have a season 4 and trying to talk someone into picking up the show (and his preference is always some network or cable channel rather than a streaming site), so if he intends for Hannibal to continue I assume he knows the chances of the show being picked up are slim if he appears to not care that much for the show and want to put it on a long hiatus for the sake of another show?

 

Wish we knew for sure... I really want at least one more season...

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kmm49

kmm49

My dream is that Fuller will announce something at the SDCC Pannibal on Saturday. Fingers crossed!

 

I'm confused why he's going to ComicCon. The show's been cancelled, the actors have been let out of their contracts and nobody's picked up the show yet. Hopefully we'll get some good news for this show!

 

 

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Dot Com

Dot Com

The panel was scheduled before the cancellation. It's also a hugely popular panel. It's not the first time a show that was cancelled had a panel at SDCC. Many Conventions have panels for popular shows that have been off the air for years btw. They still have fans.

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Conan Troutman

Conan Troutman

Yeah, I doubt we'll be getting any news this weekend. Or really any good news for a while. Still, Amazon's U.S. streaming rights are expiring soon (after 2017 I think), which means that Netflix (which already has the rights for a couple of European countries) could be back in the conversation. And a time jump or loss of secondary characters/actors is hardly a problem for this show, in fact both probably would've had to happen anyway. As long as Mikkelsen and Dancy (and even Will Graham isn't all that essential moving forward) are game, there's a realistic chance for the show to continue.

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Madding crowd

Madding crowd

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I don't even think the gore is the problem. People need some semblance of a story and that had been lacking this season. Making people's faces into snowflakes is hardly going to entice new viewers. There are fantastic actors in this show; let them carry the show. The artsy stuff should be used sparingly.

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jelaine

jelaine

Has one talked about Starz being the one to pick it up?  They're already working with Fuller on American Gods and have shown a willingness to work with a situation for the best of everyone involved with Spartacus.

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Ms Lark

Ms Lark

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I was also thinking Starz might be good. They picked up Torchwood for a season after it was cancelled by BBC/BBC America. It wasn't a very good season since most of the best characters were already dead or had their character defamed, but they did try.

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DeadlyEuphoric

DeadlyEuphoric

I am a bit confused about the whole Amazon thing. So Amazon was willing to pick the show up, but Fuller passed because they weren't giving him enough time to write all the episodes before the show starting shooting for the new season, is that it? I don't know how I feel about that. Depends on what time frames we are talking about, I guess. Was Amazon rushing things unnecessarily to make good on the heightened buzz Hannibal is having due to the cancellation, which may have hurt the quality of the show (and kudos to Fuller, then, for making a stand on this); or does Fuller demand extra time because he is busy working on another show too and Amazon demanded S4 was released on its normal schedule (if it had a S4 on NBC)?

 

I hope them passing on Amazon means they are not "too desperate" and believe they have better options out there, and Fuller (and us) do not end up regretting not playing along with Amazon.

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Ms Lark

Ms Lark

A little more info from TV Insider on the Amazon fall-through. Now, it makes a bit more sense:

 

"More originals, and particularly a high-profile "rescue" like Hannibal, would seem to have been the order of the day. But with the cast now officially released from their contracts, and Fuller focusing on American Gods, getting the gang back together would apparently take longer than Amazon was willing to wait; and the international distributors that made the show financially viable for the studio are much more reticent about throwing their support behind a show not airing on a major U.S. distributor (à la NBC, or a cable channel like FX or AMC)."

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jelaine

jelaine

I had the impression that Mads and Hugh weren't released from their contracts until after Amazon fell through and that Fuller was already committed to the schedule for American Gods that he couldn't work around to Amazon's satisfaction. I still think Starz needs to be in the Save Hannibal discussions.

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Crossbow

Crossbow

I had the impression that Mads and Hugh weren't released from their contracts until after Amazon fell through and that Fuller was already committed to the schedule for American Gods that he couldn't work around to Amazon's satisfaction. I still think Starz needs to be in the Save Hannibal discussions.

 

It was announced after Amazon fell through, but who knows whether they were actually released before or after.

 

What I'm worried about is something like 5th season of Babylon 5, where the story stayed good but because of the reduced time and budget, the costumes and makeup really sucked and were distracting. There was one where G'Kar went an entire episode with his face on crooked and another where Delenn had a blob of flesh makeup in her hair the whole time. Hannibal is so much about artistry, that kind of thing could seriously suck.

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Crossbow

Crossbow

Fuller can handle it. He was executive producer on Heroes and Pushing Daisies at the same time. Dick Wolf is executive producer of 4 shows right now. Seth MacFarlane is always producing multiple shows.

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Finis Terre

Finis Terre

 

Was Amazon rushing things unnecessarily to make good on the heightened buzz Hannibal is having due to the cancellation, which may have hurt the quality of the show (and kudos to Fuller, then, for making a stand on this); or does Fuller demand extra time because he is busy working on another show too and Amazon demanded S4 was released on its normal schedule (if it had a S4 on NBC)?

 

Both, but the real culprits are NBC and Amazon Prime. The 2013 deal to stream Hannibal via Amazon Prime hurt the show the most: NBCUniversal was paid a lot of money then, but now Amazon Prime won't sell the season 1-2-3 streaming rights to Netflix, hence the latter's refusal to pick up Hannibal. 

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Cutty

Cutty

I never thought Netflix was a serious option. They have so much original programming now they don't really need a show like Hannibal. Hulu was a better fit but they likely passed because of the above mentioned Amazon Prime deal.

 

I wonder if USA Network is an option given the emergence of Mr Robot.

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Anela

Anela

We waited over a year between season 2 and 3.  Granted, it was *just* over, but I don't see why this is a problem.  

You don't have to see why it's a problem. I just didn't like the sound of it. 

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FormerMod-a1

FormerMod-a1

I meant a problem with people potentially picking up the series, per the quote below.  Emphasis mine.

 

DeLaurentis Co tweets that there's plenty of interest.. The issue is finding someone who will wait 18 months.

 

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Cutty

Cutty

We waited over a year between season 2 and 3.  Granted, it was *just* over, but I don't see why this is a problem.  

 

I don't either, but I don't know how these networks think. The interested parties have to realize what a cult following Hannibal has. Fans of the show aren't just gonna lose interest because of a long hiatus. 

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DeadlyEuphoric

DeadlyEuphoric

Things really don't look good for Season 4. Though it does sound like we will get an amazing finale if Fuller thinks it might change the outcome of some negotiations?

 

Finally, it seems like options for a fourth season keep becoming fewer and fewer. Is there still hope left for the show to live on beyond Season 3?
Fuller: It doesn't seem like there is any imminent rescue. But I'm kind of waiting for the show to air its final episodes so that the audience can understand what a fourth season would be like and how this story between these two men would continue. None of the networks the studio has talked to about picking up a fourth season knew how this season was going to end; they were just going off the assumption that it was just going to be another season. And so much changes in the finale of the third season that pays off all of these dynamics between Will and Hannibal that we're talking about - the regret and the betrayal and the wanting to move on and the fear that you might not be capable of moving on. All of those things play out through the Red Dragon arc. After the finale, I'd love to perhaps re-open the conversation with potential networks or streaming options once they clearly understand what the story is that we've told.

 

http://www.tvguide.com/news/hannibal-postmortem-digestivo-bryan-fuller-season-3/

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Finis Terre

Finis Terre

Things really don't look good for Season 4. Though it does sound like we will get an amazing finale if Fuller thinks it might change the outcome of some negotiations?

 

From what I gathered about the hypothetical, pre-cancellation timelines and subsequent negotiations, things look neither good nor bad for season 4. Patience (the word neither the media nor Hannibal fans particularly appreciate) is the key: since it's such a niche show, there is little likelihood of erosion of its loyal fanbase.

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GottiBiscotti

GottiBiscotti

As someone who started watching this season, I have faith that Hannibal can still pick up more fans and end up on another network. It's pretty clear that NBC wasn't a good fit for this type of show (which is why it took me so long to give it a chance), because it seemed like an obvious attempt by NBC to compete with The Walking Dead, American Horror Story, etc., that were booming before Hannibal.

 

I just can't accept this season being the last when it feels like things are just getting started.

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