FitzSimmons: Beside Each Other, the Whole Damn Time.

[SnoGirl]

I totally agree! Or at least, I hope there is. I just loved watching the Comic Con panel bc there were so many side-glances and there were a couple spots when they weren't even paying attention to what was going on.

I hope with the later time slot, the plot lines could take some more interesting twists as turns. And I hope that the poster was done on purpose.

*squeee* I'm so glad you posted HistoryGirl. I'm dying with how tightly spoilers are being guarded. I just want something about Fitz's fate.

[HistoryGirl]

This article has just about the scariest title a FitzSimmons fan could ever hope to see.

 

I will say though, that it seems they're going in a different direction than I'd expected for FitzSimmons.  I'm not certain how I feel about it. 

[FurryFury]

I wouldn't mind if Fitz was killed off. I still feel that both aren't necessary for the show, narration-wise, and Simmons' actress has way more charisma.

 

Anyway, I'm still disappointed they made up the whole romance thing out of the blue (there was no romantic tension in the beginning, I'm certain of it). It was a nice platonic relationship. Well, at least May and Coulson are just friends and nothing more... yet.

[JayKay]

I'm glad to hear Henstridge say that

they're going to grow more as individuals and less as a unit.

The cutesy portmanteau thing always felt like a handicap to their growth imo. It would be nice to see them each on a different trajectory as fully fleshed-out people.

[HistoryGirl]

I wouldn't mind if Fitz was killed off. I still feel that both aren't necessary for the show, narration-wise, and Simmons' actress has way more charisma.

 

Anyway, I'm still disappointed they made up the whole romance thing out of the blue (there was no romantic tension in the beginning, I'm certain of it). It was a nice platonic relationship. Well, at least May and Coulson are just friends and nothing more... yet.

I think the seeds of the romance started with FZZT and continued from there.  In "the Hub" he's blathering on to Ward about Simmons, in "The Well" he snaps at the Asgardian professor when the prof compliments her and in "The Bridge" he turns a little green when Simmons is handsy with Mike.  These are just some examples, there are a few more that show up later in the season as well (including the obvious ones in "The Only Light in the Darkness" and "Nothing Personal".  I think they planted Fitz's affection for Simmons from FZZT forward (we even see him stop flirting entirely with Skye from that point forward).  Whether Simmons feels the same way, remains to be seen. 

[SnoGirl]

Holy cats, I feel like I have super hero powers, ask and you shall receive. What a great article!

I'm actually slightly excited about the news. NOT the part about surviving, bc I will be crushed if either of my favorite geeky scientists die, but that they might grow separately. It's what people complain the most about the pair, how wrapped up in each other they are. How weird is it going to be to hear "Fitz" or "Simmons" after awhile without hearing "FitzSimmons" together....sort of crazy.

In my perfect world, they would grow separately, and then grow back together...turn their story into a slow burn. That way it doesn't seem like Simmons wants to be with Fitz out of guilt and Fitz can heal/grow without resenting Simmons (that resent is going to be a big fear of mine. I feel like the pair might have a huge fight bc of their reactions to what happened to them and each other).

That article might tide me over...well, for now.

[kitlee625]

So personally I didn't think that they were going to kill Fitz off screen over the summer because it seems like a waste of such an emotional moment. When Fury said that Fitz was alive, I breathed a big sigh of relief. Doesn't mean that he is going to be exactly the same Fitz, and I'm curious to see how that impacts things. He might have brain damage, or he might have PTSD from his near-death experience.

[kennyab]

After seeing Guardians of the Galaxy, I now have a huge desire for FitzSimmons (and May) to team up with Rocket. I know it's pretty much impossible, the show can't afford the CGI to render Rocket, and they can't waste big screen time on SHIELD agents, but my inner fanboy squees at the thought. It would take Fitz's desire for a helper monkey to a whole new level.

Edited August 3, 2014 by kennyab

[webruce]

I have not seen the full season(I know times running out). But I think that Fitz and Simmons weren't really in love, but maybe fasinated with each other? They are nerds/geeks and probably not been to active with the opposite sex. I don't mean sexually but anything in close proximity. As I was in school and little attention from the opposite sex made me think I loved her. So they both could think that at times. So there maybe what they think is attraction and love for eachother, but it can just be that they don't know how to control their feelings. So with Simmons making over Ward and Mike, that would make Fitz unhappy. And with Skye early on paying attention to him he is nervous and may have shown he liked her. But later when she payed more attention to Ward he backed away. So with life and death situations Fitz and Simmons feelings for eachother may come out. But each maybe to affraid to ask the other out, or show thier true feelings. But it could also be that they can't tell the difference between real love and infatuation. So they may end up being friends who want more but won't take the next step. Now with Agent Triplett showing a liking to Jemma, that may make Fitz think differently about her.

 But even in Wards case he was nervous and told Coulson about him and May at an awkward time and he just blerted it out. So he isn't totally comfortable with things.

Edited September 17, 2014 by webruce

[myril]

I have not seen the full season(I know times running out). But I think that Fitz and Simmons weren't really in love, but maybe fasinated with each other? They are nerds/geeks and probably not been to active with the opposite sex. I don't mean sexually but anything in close proximity. As I was in school and little attention from the opposite sex made me think I loved her. So they both could think that at times.

 

I wouldn't like to foster the socially inept (science or tech) nerd trope much. Fitz sure came across as someone at first really uncomfortable outside of his comfort zone, but think that was not even just about people, it was about being in a rather unpredictable surrounding instead of well organized and predictable lab. He just isn't good with change. And Simmons was excited about being out of the lab, see the world, have adventures, romance (with whoever) was not much on her mind.

 

I am halfway through rewatching it, and though I am no fan of making Fitz and Simmons a romantic couple, there are some moments all over the first season that could be quite well read as some unspoken interest on both sides. But they have been used to work with each other, to learn with each other, they are a great team and had friendship, and sometimes you prefer to stick to seeing it as a friendship, ignoring whatever other feelings might be there, because it is such a great friendship. But taking it too a new level, romance, that can be scary territory, what if it doesn't last, what if it's nice for a while, but then things get ugly, then you lose a great friend. So you have little moments, but you ignore them, these feelings suggesting you want more eventually than great camaraderie. Not a strange situation to me.

 

We're anyway wrong to think that infatuation and love are any easy to differentiate, particular in the beginning. I mean, what is real love? To me it's a process. It might start more with physical attraction or occasionally physical attraction is something coming later. And a lot of people struggle with telling, if something is just attention out of nicety or if there could be more, not just as teenagers. It is quite simple not always that easy to tell, and big, deep going true love on first sight is more of a myth. We decide in the first seconds of meeting a person about sympathy, but not always is it clear, where this first impression will take the relationship we are from that moment on building with a person.

Edited September 17, 2014 by katusch

[webruce]

I agree with you on that.

[sjohnson]

Friendzoning is a status thing, the friendzoned are told they aren't big enough stars/tall enough/sexy enough to play romantic lead in the zoner's movie playing in their head. (Or not hot enough to costar in the porno in the zoner's head.) Well people feel what they feel when it comes to getting turned on and I doubt that there's much free will there. The problem for the Simmons character is that she's been incredibly intimate with Fitz for so long, that to friendzone a soul mate is really, really terrible thing to do. There even seems to be an idea that sex dirties relationships, which is really backward I think.  

[SnoGirl]

So, I feel just awful for Fitz. He's really had the rug pulled out from him. No wonder he's talking to himself. Simmons left, I'm sure Skye doesn't hang out in the lab anymore now that she's Mini-May, Fitz didn't like Triplett, and it's not like May and Fitz had a relationship anyways. Not only did he pretty much lost his mind, his family is not there either.

Simmons had to of left out of guilt right? She took the last bit of air, her mind is intact...I bet that the guilt she was hit with was just killing her. I just can't believe she bailed, I hope she was looking for a SHIELD doctor they could trust, or something. She's going to be crushed when she sees how far Fitz has fallen.

So, I think that they're planting seeds of Fitz's recovery, it might not be a complete recovery, but gain some sort of ground. If Simmons wasn't real, then Fitz still could think of the words he was missing, it just took him a bit longer and he wasn't actually saying them outloud. I think the genius is still there, he's just still healing.

I wonder if he knows he's imagining Simmons. He obviously knows he's imagining something's with his "thank god" response when May saw the metal change to flesh. I hope we get other hallucinations other then Simmons. Can you imagine if he sees Ward??

[Cranberry]

Well people feel what they feel when it comes to getting turned on and I doubt that there's much free will there. The problem for the Simmons character is that she's been incredibly intimate with Fitz for so long, that to friendzone a soul mate is really, really terrible thing to do. There even seems to be an idea that sex dirties relationships, which is really backward I think.  

 

So you believe that people feel what they feel, but you think that Simmons turning Fitz down would be terrible? If she's not into him romantically or sexually, should she just fake it so that she's not being "terrible" to him? 

[KirkB]

I don't think Fitz realizes Simmons isn't there. He's probably not going to be able to work it out unless May or someone overhears him talking to 'Simmons' and points out she isn't there.

 

I can KIND of understand Simmons leaving Fitz if she believes her presence is doing more harm than good, but I don't get why she isn't with the rest of the team or why none of them are talking about her.

[Sarahastro]

I was actually having the opposite thought with respect to Simmons still being there. I couldn't figure out why she was still there except to take care of Fitz, and I thought would be a shame for the character if her storyline completely revolved around him. After S.H.I.E.L.D. fell she was the least sure about sticking with the team; she even told Koenig that she didn't know why she was there. It made sense that she kind of went along with everyone else, especially after they found out about Ward and were trying to rescue Skye, but I can definitely see her starting to wonder if she really wanted to keep following Coulson's orders forever. I'm guessing that she went off to find Agent Weaver, either to find some way to help Fitz or to find a new team (or perhaps some combination of the two).

 

From a storytelling POV, I think separating them makes a lot of sense. It'll be nice to see them interacting with other people. I think we got more Fitz/May interactions in this episode than in the previous season (a slight exaggeration, but not by much).

[HistoryGirl]

I don't think Fitz realizes Simmons isn't there. He's probably not going to be able to work it out unless May or someone overhears him talking to 'Simmons' and points out she isn't there.

 

 

I'm almost certain that Fitz realizes that he's talking to an hallucination.  When May walks in, he immediately tries to hide her and doesn't include her into his conversation with May (he talks in generalities and parrots her rather than allowing her to finish his sentences as he was doing alone).  While I'm not entirely certain why he talks aloud to her when there's clearly other people in the lab milling about in the background, I do think he's aware that he's talking to a fauxSimmons. 

 

I'm with @sarahastro on this.  I suspect Simmons left for an ulterior purpose and I don't think she left for the reasons that Coulson seems to suggest.  First of all, Simmons readily admitted that Fitz is/was her best friend "in the world," plus she's always Miss Fix-it and even in the Hub we saw her taking desperate actions to save Fitz when she had no idea if anything was wrong with him (sure shooting Sitwell was comical, but he was a pretty heavily ranked officer).  Plus I feel like if Fitz was aware that Simmons had left him for good he'd be a helluva a lot more resentful toward fauxSimmons. Instead his vision was all sunshine and rainbows with encouragement.  He thought of her positively and even romantically. 

 

I'm dying to know what happened when she left.  Did she talk to him first and tell him her plans? 

[SnoGirl]

I think Simmons would have told Fitz. Well, I hope she won have told Fitz. I couldn't decide which action would be more out of character for Simmons, but I couldn't decide. She did bonk Fitz over the head during FZZT instead of saying a proper goodbye to him, but we all know there is no way Fitz would have let her jump. So really, I hope she said something but who knows if she did. I wonder if she kept in contact with anyone.

On a rewatch last night, I really like how they mirrored Coulson's Tahiti comments of repeating "it's a magical place" with Fitz always repeating the shoulder grab and saying that he was going to be okay. I thought it was a neat throwback to the pilot, whether it was intentional or not.

[Dusty]

It seems that Fitz does know that Simmons is gone.  While I do think she did it with the best of intentions I'm hoping for some fallout.  I love their relationship, platonic or otherwise, I'm fine with whatever. As long as Fitz or even Simmons later on if that happens, isn't pining away for forever.  I do think that it is important that they do grow away from each other as individuals before they grow back to whatever their relationship will be in the future.  I'm just worried that they'll have Simmons growing as an individual and leave Fitz there off to the side as a sad sack.  That was the direction they were going with last year.  With Simmons leaving him I hope this will lead to him growing. Of course hallucinating your friend after she leaves doesn't really bode well for my hope but it's early.  I would just like both of them to realize that they're great individually, but awesome as a team.

[HistoryGirl]

It seems that Fitz does know that Simmons is gone.  While I do think she did it with the best of intentions I'm hoping for some fallout.  I love their relationship, platonic or otherwise, I'm fine with whatever. As long as Fitz or even Simmons later on if that happens, isn't pining away for forever.  I do think that it is important that they do grow away from each other as individuals before they grow back to whatever their relationship will be in the future.  I'm just worried that they'll have Simmons growing as an individual and leave Fitz there off to the side as a sad sack.  That was the direction they were going with last year.  With Simmons leaving him I hope this will lead to him growing. Of course hallucinating your friend after she leaves doesn't really bode well for my hope but it's early.  I would just like both of them to realize that they're great individually, but awesome as a team.

A friend of mine suggested that maybe Simmons will be jealous that Mack is able to get through to Fitz more than she can, which could cause them to grow apart.  

[Malbec]

So... FitzSimmons.

 

I think their rift is pretty realistic, and I am glad they're being characterized separately from each other. 

 

However, Fitz seems to be getting the bulk of that characterization. I have no issue with where they've taken his character, and I think Iain de Caestecker is killing it.  But man, the writers are doing Simmons dirty.  Although a lot of the reaction on Tumblr and elsewhere seems to be Yay Fitz! Boo Simmons!, I can't quite see it like that. 

 

I'm a liiiiitle bit tired of Fitz's tendency to hold back, then blow up with a giant feelingsbomb all over Simmons, then shut down before she can respond.  Personally, seeing that dynamic again last night in "What You Really Are" made me think they really do not need to be together until that cycle stops. That's not to say Simmons hasn't done anything wrong, but I still find her failings pretty human.

[KirkB]

To be fair, that's always been Fitz's way though. He's the kind of person who holds stuff back until he's in a position where he has to let it out or figures there is no reason not to. That's why he waited until he was pretty sure he was going to die to tell Simmons he loved her. His condition has just made it worse, because now he has a hard time getting stuff out even when he wants to.

 

As for Simmons, I don't necessarily disagree with her point that more dangerous people require more serious options. They do need to be willing to kill but it shouldn't be the first option. They just need someone to publicly say what Mac and Bobbi are apparently whispering about, and they seem to have randomly chosen Simmons because she would seem to be the least expected to have that sort of view.

[Malbec]

Sure.  Like I said, I'm not unhappy with Fitz's characterization -- I think it makes sense.  The way it's written, it just seems to come at Simmons' expense sometimes and that's where my frustration is.

[tennisgurl]

I hope we get another Simmons episode soon, so we can get more of a view of her head space. Maybe spend some time on the Fitz-Simmons relationship after that. I love that they are getting more characterization away from each other (as they are probably my favorite characters on the show), but I miss their super close bond. 

[Jack Kerouac]

I guess the romantic question is: what happens next?

 

1. Fitz and Simmons

2. Fitz and Skye

3. Simmons and Sky

4. Simmons and ?

5. Fitz and ?

[KirkB]

Well, Fitz and Simmons seems unlikely since Simmons has made it fairly clear she's not interested. Fitz and Skye is a strong possibility, especially with him being the only one on her side. Simmons and Skye was possible but I think the Diviner took that away. Simmons and Tripp is out unless he's not actually dead but the possibility of Simmons and Bobbi is still around. Fitz and Mack has an outside chance.

[Sarahastro]

I'm not sure I would go so far as to say that Fitz's characterization is coming at the expense of Simmons' (although I think I see your point because they are in conflict a lot). But the writers are doing a lot more with Fitz right now than with Simmons, so it feels like his character is changing and growing whereas hers is staying still. He's formed a new friendship with Mack, he's trying to adjust to his new cognitive and physical disabilities, and in the last two episodes we saw more of an emphasis on his relationship with Skye. Simmons hasn't really done that much since she got back from Hydra except for worry about her relationship with Fitz. I actually like that she came out as more cautious about Inhumans because it gives her character something to do that isn't directly tied to Fitz (and, as other people have pointed out, her concerns are not unfounded).

[Spartan Girl]

Honestly, I don't think Simmons has that much of a right to be pissed at Fitz for lying to her about Skye when two episodes ago she thought everyone with superpowers was a threat.  Maybe she wasn't applying that rationale to people that are her friends, but you can't blame Fitz and Skye for not telling her.  Just saying.

[KirkB]

If my best friend suddenly started shouting "kill all the powered people!" and I had just recently discovered one of my other friends now had powers, I would hide it from her too. On the other hand, doctoring test results is kind of crossing a line, and since Skye was genuinely a threat to the plane the two of them should at the very least have told Coulson. But keeping it from Simmons under those circumstances was fine, as far as I'm concerned.

[HistoryGirl]

I'm starting to think that all along Mack and Bobbi have been trying to divide and conquer where FitzSimmons is concerned.  I suspect Bobbi and Mack are trying to get into FitzSimmons' good graces so they can snatch them for nuSHIELD.  Especially since from the promo, Weaver is turning up at what looks like nuSHIELD

[kennyab]

Good catch, HistoryGirl. I figured they'd want to bring along some of Coulson's crew, but I hadn't quite put it into that context.

[Betweenthisandthat]

I like Fitz and I like Simmons, I like them as friends.  When I watched the first seasons of Agents of Shield on Netflix, they were my favorites aside from May and then Bobbi. But I'm not a shipper of the two of them.  I don't believe Simmons owes Fitz anything if he has feelings for her and she doesn't share them.  

 

BUT the writing is fanning the flames.  I liked the friendship between FitzSimmons and then it turned into a one-sided romantic thing which I wasn't a fan of because it lead to angst that wasn't necessary.  The current interviews make it seem like this will continue and that the angst will grow because of the Fitz/Jemma/Will love triangle.  I would love it if they dropped the whole Fitz has feelings for Simmons thing and let them be on the same page because the love triangle angst is creating a dynamic where Simmons has to feel wrong one way or the other because of her feelings and Fitz is the "friendzoned" guy who selflessly helps the woman he loves. Why couldn't Simmons have a space boyfriend she wants to rescue with Fitz's help without the angst?  Why couldn't she have a story that has nothing to do with accepting or rejecting Fitz?  Or with rescuing a love interest? 

 

I enjoy Fitz and Jemma, and but I'll check them out once this arc is done and hope that when I catch it on Netflix in a few months it will have ended up better than I imagined.  However, the love triangle is trope I've seen too often to find interesting anymore. I'm not against the ship, but I'd have no problem with them being BFFs without the angst.  TV needs more of those kinds of m/f friendships.

Edited October 29, 2015 by Betweenthisandthat

[Jack Kerouac]

I enjoy Fitz and Jemma, and but I'll check them out once this arc is done and hope that when I catch it on Netflix in a few months it will have ended up better than I imagined.  However, the love triangle is trope I've seen too often to find interesting anymore. I'm not against the ship, but I'd have no problem with them being BFFs without the angst.  TV needs more of those kinds of m/f friendships.

 

I think that's a great idea. I hate what the will-they won't-they crap is doing to BOTH characters.

[tennisgurl]

Really, I just want them to get on the same page. I would be happy with them in a romantic relationship, or in a platonic BFF relationship. Just something without so much damn ANGST. 

[Wynterwolf]

TV needs more of those kinds of m/f friendships.

 

Yes, it so does.  And it would be the different, and practically ground breaking direction to go.  

[VCRTracking]

Jim and Pam from The Office was one of my favorite ships but it always seemed that Jim was the one putting himself out there, risking his heart only to get it hurt because Pam lacked courage. Even when they were finally together it seemed he always making the sacrifices in their relationship. It made me resent and dislike Pam at times. What made the finale so satisfying is that she finally made a romantic gesture for him.

[driedfruit]

Really, I just want them to get on the same page. I would be happy with them in a romantic relationship, or in a platonic BFF relationship. Just something without so much damn ANGST. 

 

Yes, this. The actors have great chemistry, but the angst is so draining. They squeezed out all the joy out of their characters and relationships since season one and I feel like that was a big mistake. (same with Skye's character).

[Jack Kerouac]

Interesting developments in 203e07 - Chaos Theory. I guess we can put to rest the idea that Simmons doesn't feel the same way about Fitz. So what does this mean for them?

[Jack Kerouac]

Agents Of S.H.I.E.L.D.'s Elizabeth Henstridge & Iain De Caestecker Talk FitzSimmons Kisses & The Planet's Creature

 

http://i.imgur.com/zv8wzjd.jpg

[Fogh]

The best moment for me in that scene was when Jemma went in for a third kiss as Fitz pulled back. Showed to me how much she wanted to keep kissing him.

[Jack Kerouac]

The best moment for me in that scene was when Jemma went in for a third kiss as Fitz pulled back. Showed to me how much she wanted to keep kissing him.

 

Definitely. She's got it bad and that's a real problem, considering the Space Boyfriend. It's not like they're exclusive (or are they? What's the protocol for a Space Boyfriend?), but I don't think Fitz or Will would be happy if the other is still in the picture.

 

I think Simmons won't have to make a choice (Will is evil, dies, etc.), but I would like to see her make one, regardless.

Edited November 18, 2015 by Jack Kerouac

[Fogh]

Definitely. She's got it bad and that's a real problem, considering the Space Boyfriend. It's not like they're exclusive (or are they? What's the protocol for a Space Boyfriend?), but I don't think Fitz or Will would be happy if the other is still in the picture.

 

I think Simmons won't have to make a choice (Will is evil, dies, etc.), but I would like to see her make one, regardless.

 

Yeah, I want her to make a decision too and not have fate make it for her. I don't want Fitz to be the default winner.

 

If by the off chance Will is real, (I'm pretty certain he isn't - anymore) I don't see him being very unhappy if Jemma chose Fitz - might even encourage it. Fitz was her favorite word and he just got back to earth. I'm sure there is plenty fish in the sea for a Top Marks Pilot Astronaut Hero Man hehe.

[thecap]

I think if both fitz and jemma make it to the end of the show, they are of course end game. That said I don't think they are getting together anytime soon. Jemma staring at that photo means that this is a mission of love on her part and I don't think Fitz can handle being second choice. they are totally cursed in a way :) I think a big capture/torture/kill fitz is coming our way (probably as they are saving Will) meaning some serious soul searching/angst/realizations from jemma

[Fogh]

Not being really familiar with the Joss or Jed Whedon universe, I'm cautiously optimistic. In any other show they would be endgame. There isn't a soul on the planet more perfect for them than each other. And that is rare in TV these days imo.

 

I'm sure they won't get a lot of happy moments because danger, drama and angst is around the corner but if the can manage brain damage and alien planets they should be able to handle anything.

 

An interview with Jed and his wife indicated that ABC wanted a FitzSimmons moment a little sooner than they wanted it. I think ABC know they are a huge part of the show and combine that with Jed and Maurissa's connecting to them, I think they might be the ones to make it to the end.

[HistoryGirl]

ABC promo'd the heck out of the FitzSimmons kiss, so I definitely believe they requested them getting together sooner rather than later. lol

 

Personally, I feel like Jemma was staring at the Will photo because she's conflicted.  She's got Fitz-feels happening, but Will's not there for her to see if the feelings she has for Fitz hold a candle to her feelings for Will. I think she was trying to decide how deep her feelings go for Will. That's my fanwank in any case. 

[Jack Kerouac]

Personally, I feel like Jemma was staring at the Will photo because she's conflicted.  She's got Fitz-feels happening, but Will's not there for her to see if the feelings she has for Fitz hold a candle to her feelings for Will. I think she was trying to decide how deep her feelings go for Will. That's my fanwank in any case. 

 

We are in a really interesting place story-wise with these two, that's for sure. From a writer's perspective, which way do you go? I mean Fitz and Simmons have kissed and they both 'went for it,' so to speak. Fitz kissed Simmons, then Simmons kissed Fitz and tried to kiss him again. Obviously she was in to it.

 

Do they talk about the kiss? Do they go back to pretending nothing happened? What does Simmons say at this point? "Sorry, but we can't keep making out because of Will on the Blue Filter Planet?" That would be valid, but kinda weird considering what happened in 3x08. Is Simmons waiting until she sees Will again before making a decision? Is she procrastinating on making decision in order not to hurt anyone. Is that fair?

 

Maybe she'll do a Kelly ad say, "I choose me!"

 

I honestly can't predict at this point which way the writers are going to go. It's odd - they do such a half-assed job on 3x05, the supposedly 'Emmy-worthy' episode and yet do such a great job writing for Fitzsimmons. Of course, I am throwing a caveat in there if all of the problems with 3x05 are explained in the upcoming episodes.

 

What does everyone think? Which way are they going to go with Fitzsimmons?

[Ariah]

What does everyone think? Which way are they going to go with Fitzsimmons?

 

I may be biased as I'm utterly scarred by previous shows by a guy named "Wheddon". I'm rooting for these two, but at the same time I'm afraid that if they are finally happy, something huge will come up and destroy the said happiness.

 

But let's put that aside and use logic and real-life experience:

- I think Fitz will try to avoid the subject and distance himself from Jemma, because that kiss was his goodbye.

- I think Jemma will try to talk about it and nudge Fitz to open up, because that kiss was her welcome sign.

 

I still think the whole Will affair should not have been done the way it was - it would easily have the same impact without the romantic aspect. But alas, the writers used a cheap trick and we have to roll with it. At least Fitz vocalized what I think of the writer's abilities when he talked about the curse.

 

What I'm hoping for is the writers actually going for a steady relationship with these two, which, on-screen, would only differ from the dynamics we have between them by having them steal a kiss or two in the lab and exit the same bunk in the morning.

[Fogh]

One of the best fan-made videos made for them:

 

 

[Fogh]

My feelings after the episode was the calm before the storm. The spoilers leading up to the episode pointed to Ward but somehow other people got into my head that Fitz could die or be possessed. It was an irrational fear as fear often is. Needless to say, I was relieved, calm after the episode. Then someone said Fitz was visible for a second and Jemma approached the module to see if Will was in there and then the scene could be interpreted differently, especially from Fitz. So as I lay my head on the pillow to catch a few hours of sleep the storm started inside my head.

 

We know there is more angst coming. There kind of has to dealing with the aftermath of everything that happened and culminated in 3x10. The storm in my head lead me to a scenario which I think is a very plausible outcome and progression of their feelings as they are now.

 

So hear me out and some may not like it. It is specific because that is how I spec hehe. Might even turn this into a fanfic.

 

3x11: We come back after a few days, maybe a week has passed. Jemma is dealing with the loss of Will and the guilt she must have for him dying saving her. She has a scene with someone (I hope Daisy) where she explains what she is going through (indicates she knows Will gave up his life for her and how he died) and that Fitz is giving her a wide berth. Jemma thinks he is just giving her space to grieve. Later on we get a Jemma/Fitz scene where they make small talk - are you okay and such. Fitz is distant and leaves as soon as the subject goes to Will or feelings or similar. He leaves and Bobbi (whom has witnessed their interaction) tells her it can't be easy for Fitz and he might think he is the consolation price. Jemma says that isn't how she feels but she needs time to heal before she can pursue a relationship with Fitz. Bobbi lets her know she might want to tell him that.
Then the heartbreaking scene. Very late in the episode, Jemma seeks out Fitz and tells him she wants a relationship with him, she just needs some time (maybe the L word is mentioned for the first time). She tells him to believe her when she says she wants him. Fitz says that's the problem, he doesn't believe her. He can't be with her knowing she wishes he was Will, that he will forever live in his shadow. He turns to leave as Jemma grabs his wrists to make him stay. He tells her to let him go, figuratively and literally and walks away. As I said heartbreaking. I think their feelings here is natural from what we have seen so far in S3. While Jemma needs to grieve for Will and rid herself of the guilt, she still loves Fitz and he in return saw her walking towards the module, cry in his arms and perhaps be very messed up the first few days following. Neither is really to blame for how they feel here, I think. Fitz walking away like that seems plausible to me even if he is so in love with her. That might be the most "forced" thing about this scenario but it can be done in a believable way imo.

 

Now as for the rest of S3 or part of it, we see them working together with the team, their relationship on the back burner but not gone as we see hints of them trying to move on. Some have said we needed Jemma to pine for Fitz a bit and we could see that here. She loves him and she tries to let him go but she can't.

 

Eventually they get together though. It could happen in a number of ways but in my head Fitz overhears Jemma talking to Bobbi/Daisy saying that she is at peace with what happened with and to Will. She has moved on but she hasn't moved on from Fitz. She is still in love with him and she doesn't know what to do (wouldn't it be "fitting" if Fitz hears the L word for the first time when she isn't actually saying it to him? hehe). Fitz later on approaches Jemma and asks if she really meant what she said to Bobbi/Daisy and we get kisses and happiness. What Jemma tells Bobbi/Daisy is what I think Fitz needs to hear and he can't get that from Jemma in 3x11 because she would be lying and Fitz wouldn't believe her anyway.

 

Any thoughts?

[HistoryGirl]

A lot of people are making a big deal out of Will dying to save Jemma.  I think we're forgetting that so did Fitz. In S1 he gave her the last breath so that she could live. 

 

I think Jemma cared for Will, but I don't think her love for him is even a fraction of what she feels for Fitz.  Fitz is her lobster, essentially.  Once she mourns for Will, she'll be back to Fitz wanting to make up for lost time.  In fact I fanwank that she's going to be all up in Fitz's grill and he's going to be telling her that she's sending him mixed signals.  And in fact I suspect it's going to happen sooner than later. 

 

I'm curious as to whether Maveth retains the memories of the host body.  Because I have a spec that when Jemma fell down the hole (and was "saved") that's actually when Will died and Maveth took over.  But someone mentioned that Fitz smelled the stench of the wound, so maybe it's as simple as him dying when she left with Fitz. But I still can't get over that she was so jumpy and then not-so-much when she was on the planet.  It would make more sense to me if she'd lived a fogue state for 3 months while Will was actually just Maveth in disguise and he'd tried to kill Jemma to hitch a ride in her via Fitz's rescue. That way, subconsciously, maybe she actually knew she was in Maveth's company but managed to overcome it.  

 

I think it's important to remember that whenever Maveth was displeased with her, he kicked up a sandstorm. When she was running to Fitz maybe he was trying to hide his ultimate plan?  I dunno. It's so holey, it's Swiss cheese at this point.